Current Events > Still pissed MAGA republicans tanked the border bill.

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It was full of republican shit, whatever but it actually addressed border security unlike every prior bill which was just funding for a wall that does jack shit.

A majority of illegal shit comes in through legal ports of entry. Due to a high volume of shit coming in through those ports, we can't stop and check every single container that comes through and that's where nearly all illicit drugs like fentanyl come in from, not to mention the massive amounts of human trafficking at various ports.

This bill would have helped stop this shit and piece of shit Republicans knew that stopping the problem would eliminate a talking point.

The bill had tons of good shit that every American would want.

https://youtu.be/TdPGWEFa6UM?feature=shared

Where Courage is the dems, Muriel is the idiot gop, and mac and cheese is the border deal.

why solve problem when you can exacerbate the problem and run on fixing the problem?

The really sad thing is that Republicans could have easily passed the bill and then spent the rest of the election season bragging about how they had solved the problem. You know, like a normal government should function.

But they're not interested in governing. They're only interested in oppressing. And hate works better for that.

wackyteen posted...

why solve problem when you can exacerbate the problem and run on fixing the problem?

"The government is broken. Elect us and we'll prove it!" - the GOP.

They didn't want to make Biden look good.

That's how Republicans work, if a Dem tries to help the country, they'll do anything they can to eliminate it, even if it's something they themselves constantly talk about that needs to be done.

They actually don't want their key issues wedge issues addressed because then they can't do nothing about it, blame Democrats, and then fundraise on that.

ClayGuida posted...

It was full of republican shit, whatever but it actually addressed border security unlike every prior bill which was just funding for a wall that does jack shit.

A majority of illegal shit comes in through legal ports of entry. Due to a high volume of shit coming in through those ports, we can't stop and check every single container that comes through and that's where nearly all illicit drugs like fentanyl come in from, not to mention the massive amounts of human trafficking at various ports.

This bill would have helped stop this shit and piece of shit Republicans knew that stopping the problem would eliminate a talking point.

The bill had tons of good shit that every American would want.

Remember when the GOP made Obama strip the Obamacare act down to nothing and then still voted against it?

Yeah, this is that

Strider102 posted...

They didn't want to make Biden look good.

That's how Republicans work, if a Dem tries to help the country, they'll do anything they can to eliminate it, even if it's something they themselves constantly talk about that needs to be done.

And then they blame the Dems for everything.

yeah but even when they had Trump in office and had the Senate and House, they did nothing that would bring them long term success

wackyteen posted...

yeah but even when they had Trump in office and had the Senate and House, they did nothing that would bring them long term success

They don't care about that. They got what they wanted though. Tax cuts for the rich.

wackyteen posted...

yeah but even when they had Trump in office and had the Senate and House, they did nothing that would bring them long term success

That's the beauty of it. Republicans know they don't have to do anything. Their idiot base will vote for them no matter what and they don't have to do anything. Just say things like "The Dems are destroying this country with this or that" and that's all that needs to be said.

No further action is necessary, and they don't have to actually do anything.

Aristoph posted...

The really sad thing is that Republicans could have easily passed the bill and then spent the rest of the election season bragging about how they had solved the problem. You know, like a normal government should function.

That's because their politics are now entirely reactive, performative bullshit.

They are anger, fear, hatred. Nothing more.

It was an absolute win for them. The Democrats shouldn't have proposed it in the first place (conceding COLOSSAL ground to the right for nothing), but given that they did, they should have taken it off the table the second Trump told the GOP to tank it. Instead, Biden took time out of his fucking State of the Union speech to grovel before Trump and beg him to pass it. Zero spine.

Garioshi posted...

Instead, Biden took time out of his fucking State of the Union speech to grovel before Trump and beg him to pass it.

That's not what he did. After talking about how it would have helped the country he berated Trump for playing politics and not serving the American people. Saying instead of trying to use it as an election issue he should join him in supporting it for the greater good.

Kradek posted...

That's not what he did. After talking about how it would have helped the country he berated Trump for playing politics and not serving the American people. Saying instead of trying to use it as an election issue he should join him in supporting it for the greater good.

Yes, that's what I said. The correct play would be taking the bill off the table immediately and then slamming Trump and the GOP for having no principles or beliefs that they won't even vote for their own border policy, not pleading for Trump (who Biden has repeatedly called a danger to democracy) to work with him to pass it. This border bill is one of the most cartoonishly authoritarian bills I have ever seen in my life and it never should have been introduced, but that's the correct play with the hand Biden had.

Garioshi posted...

Yes, that's what I said. The correct play would be taking the bill off the table immediately and then slamming Trump and the GOP for having no principles or beliefs that they won't even vote for their own border policy, not pleading for Trump (who Biden has repeatedly called a danger to democracy) to work with him to pass it. This border bill is one of the most cartoonishly authoritarian bills I have ever seen in my life and it never should have been introduced, but that's the correct play with the hand Biden had.

He was asking him to stop getting in the way of it/the issue. That's as far as I saw in the cooperation he asked for.

He knows Trump well and has been caught on a hot mic insulting him, so I don't think he'd actually want his help on passing it, just stop being in the way.

The bill's already done. Literally the only thing Trump could provide is to stop being an obstacle.

Garioshi posted...

Yes, that's what I said. The correct play would be taking the bill off the table immediately and then slamming Trump and the GOP for having no principles or beliefs that they won't even vote for their own border policy, not pleading for Trump (who Biden has repeatedly called a danger to democracy) to work with him to pass it. This border bill is one of the most cartoonishly authoritarian bills I have ever seen in my life and it never should have been introduced, but that's the correct play with the hand Biden had.

No, what biden did was masterclass politics. The entire blame of the border shifted to Republicans. You take advantage of that.

Biden, for someone they call sleepy or half in the grave is still showing a masterclass of politics.

It's why Republicans will miss McConnell when he's gone. For as slimey as he is, brute force doesn't work, he knows that.

ClayGuida posted...

It's why Republicans will miss McConnell when he's gone. For as slimey as he is, brute force doesn't work, he knows that.

It's the difference between a Greene and McConnell. 1 is successful and the other is just a ****.

Aristoph posted...

The really sad thing is that Republicans could have easily passed the bill and then spent the rest of the election season bragging about how they had solved the problem. You know, like a normal government should function.

Preach. Not only that, the Republicans could have also highlighted how conserative their bill was and how they would have gotten what they wanted from a sitting Democratic president. But who am I to tell the 'bad' guys how to be better?

Trump said no and they killed it so fast he literally owns them in every way possible change the name to the Trump party

Demorats been Demorats, shoving loads of extra rubbish into a bill under the cover of something else than act outraged when it gets shut down.

Newhopes posted...

Demorats been Demorats, shoving loads of extra rubbish into a bill under the cover of something else than act outraged when it gets shut down.

Brain worms

So much "extra rubbish" that it had bipartisan support until Trump got pissy about Biden getting a win and demanded they kill it? Only for the same people who killed it to then turn around and bitch about the border? Yeah, if anybody thinks it on dems then:
ClayGuida posted...

Brain worms

ClayGuida posted...

Brain worms

$95 billion bill

$60B to Ukriane For weapons
$14B to Israel For missle systems
$5B to places like Taiwain probably for weapons
$9B to Aid in Gaza(that one I am ok with)
If I remember rightly $2 billion for red sea defence

So thats $88-90 billion out of $95B, Border bill my arse.

Newhopes posted...

$95 billion bill

$60B to Ukriane For weapons
$14B to Israel For missle systems
$5B to places like Taiwain probably for weapons
$9B to Aid to Gaza(that one I am ok with)

So thats $88 billion out of $95B, Border bill my arse.

And who said that those fundings should be tied to the border bill in the first place?

Not to mention your numbers are a bit misleading, because you are using right wing talking points.

Well, we can all tell he doesn't actually care about the border. Just wants to carry water for the party that killed it on orders from their candidate despite it being a bipartisan bill.

Newhopes posted...

$95 billion bill

$60B to Ukriane For weapons
$14B to Israel For missle systems
$5B to places like Taiwain probably for weapons
$9B to Aid in Gaza(that one I am ok with)
If I remember rightly $2 billion for red sea defence

So thats $88-90 billion out of $95B, Border bill my arse.

So you're upset with Lankford who authored the bill?

Heineken14 posted...

And who said that those fundings should be tied to the border bill in the first place?

Not to mention your numbers are a bit misleading, because you are using right wing talking points.

Nope thats whats in the bill, there's a seperate bills for other things for example there's another bill to give Israel another $17 billion on top of that 14B.

Newhopes posted...

Nope

Yep.

But also convenient to ignore the reason the funding was put in a border bill to begin with.

Heineken14 posted...

But also convenient to ignore the reason the funding was put in a border bill to begin with.

And to ignore who killed it and why in direct denial of their own directly stated reasons.

But denying reality is standard practice for some people.

GranAures posted...

And to ignore who killed it and why in direct denial of their own directly stated reasons.

But denying reality is standard practice for some people.

For sure. Not only did they do it at the behest of Donnie, but when you have members of Congress literally admitting they aren't voting for it because it will give Biden/democrats a win is fucking ridiculous.

Heineken14 posted...

Yep.

But also convenient to ignore the reason the funding was put in a border bill to begin with.

You people never read anything...

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

Heineken14 posted...

For sure. Not only did they do it at the behest of Donnie, but when you have members of Congress literally admitting they aren't voting for it because it will give Biden/democrats a win is fucking ridiculous.

Bingo. But of course, somebody always needs to run in and tell us "what they really meant" to excuse a bad faith party's actions.

Newhopes posted...

You people never read anything...

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

Correct, and a lot of it is staying here to replenish/rebuild our weapons and shit we have sent to Ukraine. Like I said, it's a misrepresentation to say that we are sending 60b to Ukraine.

You're still ignoring why that funding and border security are tied together and why the bill that initially had bipartisan support was then killed.

Newhopes posted...

You people never read anything...

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/emergency_national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf

So care you explain why the House refuses to pass a Israel/Ukraine funding bill?

Fun fact: the party homeslice is running in to cover for are threatening to remove their majority speaker, AGAIN, for daring to not shutdown the government. Needless to say his faux concerns over the contents of a bill that same party killed purely to deny a win for Biden.
Heineken14 posted...

Like I said, it's a misrepresentation to say that we are sending 60b to Ukraine.

His feelings don't care about the facts.

obviously. why would the GOP allow a border bill to pass under Dem presidency. terrible optics. also lots of foreign aid to blame. thats usa politics.

Tankies gonna tank

GranAures posted...

His feelings don't care about the facts.

And his brain can't contain them.