Current Events > More Drama Concerning Narrative Designer Affiliated with Sweet Baby Inc

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McMarbles posted...

Because it is.
You can tell by all these people suddenly very concerned about racism when its from a black woman, but before that, crickets.

Are these comments actually serious? Do we all have to show receipts of us being non racist before today to prove we have good intentions calling out this woman?

Not everything is a bloody dog whistle and not everything is bi partisan

haloiscoolisbak posted...

Are these comments actually serious? Do we all have to show receipts of us being non racist before today to prove we have good intentions calling out this woman?

Not everything is a bloody dog whistle and not everything is bi partisan

So everyone in these topics is routinely posting outrage in topics discussing all kinds of racism? And they definitely never say "Who cares what random people post on Twitter. It's just some opinion you can ignore"? They are always extremely passionate about anti-racism and they never make excuses or give anyone the benefit of the doubt?

You all don't give a rat's fucking ass about racism. You give a shit that you found a racist within a boogeyman company that you're upset is putting woke in your video games. As if all the bullshit worthless takes constantly crying about the big scary wokes are somehow valid because of it.

You're painting with a very very broad brush there, friendo.

haloiscoolisbak posted...

Are these comments actually serious? Do we all have to show receipts of us being non racist before today to prove we have good intentions calling out this woman?

Not everything is a bloody dog whistle and not everything is bi partisan

You could point out where you talked about racism being aimed at community of color.

hyperskate65 posted...

You're painting with a very very broad brush there, friendo.

Only people with an agenda give a fuck about this bullshit "controversy"

They hate seeing women and minorities in their video games in any context besides as something to beat off to, so they're angry and working backwards from their conclusion to find any vindication.

This stupid bitch is racist and deserved to get fired. And yet she proves nothing about anything. Everyone still needs to shut the fuck up and either deal with LGBTQ characters in media or silently find a new hobby. Their concerns have been noted and tossed in the trash.

Zwijn posted...

Its not controversial, but people who know what this all is actually about will get the root problem of why she made these statements and they sure as hell wont throw a hissyfit about it online. You can dislike her, but venting about it is a red flag for another issue and this usually adds up.

this was remarkably well put. u've put to words something ive known intuitively for years, but never verbalized. love when that happens

hockeybabe89 posted...

This stupid bitch is racist and deserved to get fired. And yet she proves nothing about anything. Everyone still needs to shut the fuck up and either deal with LGBTQ characters in media or silently find a new hobby. Their concerns have been noted and tossed in the trash.

No one is saying those characters can't be in media. Game developers are free to include any characters they want in their games, but they are not allowed to say "I won't hire white people."

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

No one is saying those characters can't be in media. Game developers are free to include any characters they want in their games, but they are not allowed to say "I won't hire white people."

1. Those people complaining about literally saying those people can't be in video games.
2. You think it is white people who is having a hard time getting into the video game industry?

Epic and Naughty Dog
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec872168.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ffefc880.jpg
There is like on black guy ALLL the way in the back.

cjsdowg posted...

2. You think it is white people who is having a hard time getting into the video game industry?

Because you posted 2 random photos you found you think that makes having illegal discriminatory hiring practices completely fine? That's pretty fucked up tbh.

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Because you posted 2 random photos you found you think that makes having illegal discriminatory hiring practices completely fine? That's pretty fucked up tbh.

I never said a thing she said was okay. I have literally said how wrong she was. But at the same time I have pointed out how the people complaining about her don't care about discrimination and racism happening all around the industry aimed at some minorities. The fact to my post kind of highlights that.

hockeybabe89 posted...

So everyone in these topics is routinely posting outrage in topics discussing all kinds of racism? And they definitely never say "Who cares what random people post on Twitter. It's just some opinion you can ignore"? They are always extremely passionate about anti-racism and they never make excuses or give anyone the benefit of the doubt?

You all don't give a rat's fucking ass about racism. You give a shit that you found a racist within a boogeyman company that you're upset is putting woke in your video games. As if all the bullshit worthless takes constantly crying about the big scary wokes are somehow valid because of it.

You don't know me.

folks jumping the gun and grasping for straws to make the biggest stink tend to see things like this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/58b22697.jpg

and they regurgitate their brain dead anti-woke garbage takes about diversity and inclusion. They love to see it because theyre worn down from getting their shitty racist opinions sacked on the daily, so they use this black woman as their punching bag to release all that pent up rage

Who could care about one iota of this shit

The game is on gamepass if you want to play it fyi

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You remind me of my sister when I was trying to make her chill out a bit when she would talk about mansplaining and manspreading non stop years ago. Of course with age she's relaxed a bit.

She said things like "if it's not about you then don't get annoyed"

I'm sorry but I'm allowed to call out bullshit

Everything I don't like is woke meme goes here

I don't think about racism personally tbh even when it happens to me. I'm just like oh wait were they being racist and move on with my life tbh.

haloiscoolisbak posted...

You remind me of my sister when I was trying to make her chill out a bit when she would talk about mansplaining and manspreading non stop years ago. Of course with age she's relaxed a bit.

She said things like "if it's not about you then don't get annoyed"

I'm sorry but I'm allowed to call out bullshit

Why do you think mansplaining is bullshit?

CSCA33 posted...

Why do you think mansplaining is bullshit?

I think all people, regardless of gender are able to take a condescending/patronising position and come across as a "mansplainer"

In my personal experience, as a shy and introverted person, I'm usually the one feeling like I'm being lectured about something I already know. I get put in a box by people. Including by girls.

Therefore, for this phenomenon to have a name that implies it's only man who do it naturally annoys me because it's not my reality

haloiscoolisbak posted...

I think all people, regardless of gender are able to take a condescending/patronising position and come across as a "mansplainer"

In my personal experience, as a shy and introverted person, I'm usually the one feeling like I'm being lectured about something I already know. I get put in a box by people. Including by girls.

Therefore, for this phenomenon to have a name that implies it's only man who do it naturally annoys me because it's not my reality

Thank you for sharing that experience, I appreciate reading about your perspective.

Wait who's talking about gamers now? Let's go, point them out to me fam I'll settle it in SMASH *throws air punches*

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Damn right we are

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

No one is saying those characters can't be in media. Game developers are free to include any characters they want in their games, but they are not allowed to say "I won't hire white people."

This controversy didn't start over some random person who may or may not even hire anyone saying that. It's people bitching about games being woke and then scrolling through Twitter until they found dirt on someone they feel is at fault.

This isn't some anti-racism/anti-discrimination campaign and I'm not stupid enough to fall for anyone trying to tell me otherwise.

People that endlessly cry about woke and minorities and then vote for conservatives aren't allowed to claim racism upsets them. Ever.

Not shocked people in this topic are actually trying to justify or defend this idiot racist.
Double standards are the stock in trade of CE.

Yeah looks like quite a few people involved in this company seem to be big pieces of shit.

Vyrulisse posted...

Not shocked people in this topic are actually trying to justify or defend this idiot racist.
Double standards are the stock in trade of CE.

No one is even defending her though. It's mostly just questioning, why is her racism, specifically getting so much attention? Most of her tweets have very little views. Like maybe 3 of her tweets got more than 200 likes. She's small time, so someone had to be specifically searching for this to find it. Case in point, the tweets in the opening post have "white people" highlighted. Meaning, they specifically searched for those words in her tweets.

It just doesn't feel like genuine concern. Just using her as a target for their campaign. To say "see, we were right to be upset about Sweet Baby!"

Humble_Novice posted...

I want to at least give this woman the benefit of the doubt. So far, she's been rather civil after this whole debacle started.

Making fun of white people and saying white people shit and so on is such a huge part of several non-white cultures in America that its insane so many people are acting like shes racist for any of these tweets. Im not going to get into a whole thing about punching up, punching down, and systems of power and oppression, but Ive been rolling my eyes through this whole thing.

NoxObscuras posted...

No one is even defending her though. It's mostly just questioning, why is her racism, specifically getting so much attention? Most of her tweets have very little views. Like maybe 3 of her tweets got more than 200 likes. She's small time, so someone had to be specifically searching for this to find it. Case in point, the tweets in the opening post have "white people" highlighted. Meaning, they specifically searched for those words in her tweets.

It just doesn't feel like genuine concern. Just using her as a target for their campaign. To say "see, we were right to be upset about Sweet Baby!"

But she talked about 7 dollar tacos . That hurt these people bad core.

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Okay, sorry. I've probably misdirected some anger at you here.

My huge pet peeve on this board is people thinking they know the "true meaning" behind someone's posts, "this actually means you think this" etc which is just so arrogant.

I am not normally one to be a hypocrite, so I apologise.

Didn't read all of it cause fuck that but it seems pretty blatantly racist. It's exclusionary for certain people, for no other reason than they're white. She is scared of white people. Scared of micro-aggressions. Thinks they're difficult to work with. That's racist.

It this woman said that about literally any other group of people she'd have been shitcanned and dunked on all over Twitter, she'd never be employed again.

Zonbei posted...

Making fun of white people and saying white people shit and so on is such a huge part of several non-white cultures in America that its insane so many people are acting like shes racist for any of these tweets. Im not going to get into a whole thing about punching up, punching down, and systems of power and oppression, but Ive been rolling my eyes through this whole thing.

And I guess people are fed up with having to put up with it with a smile because we deserve it or whatever

I've dated a POC, sat through "oh white people" style comments(with this girl specifically it was about my inability to handle spicy food) and just tried to stifle any instinctive negative emotions felt by it

It feels lame as fuck getting on this soapbox, I'm fully aware I live a privileged life, but racial prejudice is racial prejudice

cjsdowg posted...

1. Those people complaining about literally saying those people can't be in video games.
2. You think it is white people who is having a hard time getting into the video game industry?
Epic and Naughty Dog
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec872168.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ffefc880.jpg
There is like on black guy ALLL the way in the back.

Expect I have listened to lots of people who have issues with SBI and literally none of them say (1).

(2) 2nd picture is really too small to see anything but in the first picture I see a lot of Asian and Hispanic people, about 10/26 thats 38% of the team. No its not even as in every race gets the same amount of slices of pizza but more like representative of...the minority. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that white people make up a majority of everything when the US Census Bureau says they make up 75.5% of the population. Like any one do math or gamble? Its just better odds.

She's obviously a bigot and it's right to call her out on it. Saying that she shouldn't be calling other people slurs or generalizing White people isn't the same as getting mad at the existence of Black characters or Black content creators.

I do want to bring up an interesting point that she makes though. Crazy people often speak truths that normal people are too polite to bring up. She's right when she says that studios shouldn't be able to tote around cartoon and video game characters for Black History Month if they're not voiced by Black actors.

I'm all for casting the right VA over having ethnicity-specific casting. But you shouldn't be able to celebrate a Black character as a Black character if a White guy is voicing them and collecting their paycheck for them.

Conversely, I think it would be absolutely fair to celebrate Black actors behind characters who are not canonically Black. James Avery as the Shredder, James Earl Jones as Darth Vader, or Roscoe Lee Browne from 90s Spider-Man. I'm sure there are more modern examples. They're just some of the ones that I grew up with and know by heart.

FortuneCookie posted...

She's obviously a bigot and it's right to call her out on it. Saying that she shouldn't be calling other people slurs or generalizing White people isn't the same as getting mad at the existence of Black characters or Black content creators.

I do want to bring up an interesting point that she makes though. Crazy people often speak truths that normal people are too polite to bring up. She's right when she says that studios shouldn't be able to tote around cartoon and video game characters for Black History Month if they're not voiced by Black actors.

I'm all for casting the right VA over having ethnicity-specific casting. But you shouldn't be able to celebrate a Black character as a Black character if a White guy is voicing them and collecting their paycheck for them.

Conversely, I think it would be absolutely fair to celebrate Black actors behind characters who are not canonically Black. James Avery as the Shredder, James Earl Jones as Darth Vader, or Roscoe Lee Browne from 90s Spider-Man. I'm sure there are more modern examples. They're just some of the ones that I grew up with and know by heart.

I'm kind of iffy about that since doing so may discourage Black voice actors from portraying characters who don't share their race specifically. Also, I don't see the practice being popular outside English-speaking countries like America or Canada.

haloiscoolisbak posted...

And I guess people are fed up with having to put up with it with a smile because we deserve it or whatever

I've dated a POC, sat through "oh white people" style comments(with this girl specifically it was about my inability to handle spicy food) and just tried to stifle any instinctive negative emotions felt by it

It feels lame as fuck getting on this soapbox, I'm fully aware I live a privileged life, but racial prejudice is racial prejudice

It is lame as fuck getting on this soapbox. You live a privileged life and have to feel mildly uncomfortable when people say things rooted in truth. Oh wow you dated one (1) POC and they said you cant handle spicy food and you had to STIFLE NEGATIVE FEELINGS? (Which is already like.. come on dude.)

You know what black people are fed up with? Actual oppression. Being shot and murdered. Being ignored by doctors and treated like lesser beings. Constant, endless racism. Being paid less. Voter suppression. Yall will survive someone making fun of white people tacos on Twitter.

of course if I say anything about the fragility of any particular group here Ill get ten more of you complaining about being oppressed.

Vyrulisse posted...

Not shocked people in this topic are actually trying to justify or defend this idiot racist.
Double standards are the stock in trade of CE.

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they see a glint in the foothills and start scrambling for anything to grasp, frenzied and desperate to validate a twisted and warped worldview of grievance from their place of privilege to misappropriate victimhood from people who experience real discrimination in all facets of life

boo hoo

Humble_Novice posted...

I'm kind of iffy about that since doing so may discourage Black voice actors from portraying characters who don't share their race specifically. Also, I don't see the practice being popular outside English-speaking countries like America or Canada.

I guess that's true.

If an American cartoon gets dubbed for an international Japanese market, odds are overwhelming that the voice actor will be ethnic Japanese.

According to Google, Black History Month is not celebrated in Asian or South American countries, but still. French, Spanish, Russian, Thai, Hakha Chin, there will come a point at which a character will be dubbed by someone other than their original ethnicity.

Zonbei posted...

It is lame as fuck getting on this soapbox. You live a privileged life and have to feel mildly uncomfortable when people say things rooted in truth. Oh wow you dated one (1) POC and they said you cant handle spicy food and you had to STIFLE NEGATIVE FEELINGS? (Which is already like.. come on dude.)

You know what black people are fed up with? Actual oppression. Being shot and murdered. Being ignored by doctors and treated like lesser beings. Constant, endless racism. Being paid less. Voter suppression. Yall will survive someone making fun of white people tacos on Twitter.

of course if I say anything about the fragility of any particular group here Ill get ten more of you complaining about being oppressed.

Tbf it was right before we broke up when she started doing it and it was a very obvious realisation that she suddenly respected me a lot less. So a bit more complicated than I'd maybe made it seem

Also when you say it's about things rooted in truth, that has nothing to do with it. I've noticed observations about certain cultures and how they consistently act in business transactions but would I ever be allowed to so much as hint at without getting torn to shreds?

All the other stuff, fuck dude I live in Australia. Our cops do a lot less murder

Zonbei posted...

It is lame as fuck getting on this soapbox. You live a privileged life and have to feel mildly uncomfortable when people say things rooted in truth. Oh wow you dated one (1) POC and they said you cant handle spicy food and you had to STIFLE NEGATIVE FEELINGS? (Which is already like.. come on dude.)

That poster is privileged, sure.

But they don't have to bite their tongue and be someone else's pincushion simply for having the same skin color as the villains who orchestrated social inequality in our hemisphere. "I know you're not personally responsible, but shut up and let me blame you," is never a good argument.

I once got moderated here for saying something about white people tbh, nobody in the topic said anything was wrong with it so I was very surprised

So yeah I'd hesitate saying anything about their spice tolerance levels too even if basically everyone jokes about it.

Yeah let me just reiterate it was more about feeling verbally handcuffed and realising some things between us were only acceptable if she did it, more than any horror over the spice remark in isolation

haloiscoolisbak posted...

Yeah let me just reiterate it was more about feeling verbally handcuffed and realising some things between us were only acceptable if she did it, more than any horror over the spice remark in isolation

How IS your spice tolerance level tho? Nothing wrong with only up to habanero, that's around where I am.

xGhostchantx posted...

Didn't read all of it cause fuck that but it seems pretty blatantly racist. It's exclusionary for certain people, for no other reason than they're white. She is scared of white people. Scared of micro-aggressions. Thinks they're difficult to work with. That's racist.

It this woman said that about literally any other group of people she'd have been shitcanned and dunked on all over Twitter, she'd never be employed again.

The fact the republican party and the talking head exist proves your point wrong.

BloodMoon7 posted...

How IS your spice tolerance level tho? Nothing wrong with only up to habanero, that's around where I am.

I'm okay, I can handle medium level spice on occasion

She was indian and the food I couldn't handle was beef vindaloo, which is one of the hotter curries. I actually loved the flavour I just couldn't have more than 3 bites without dying