Current Events > Kayle the victim of the school brawl, another video has surfaced

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TinyTim01 03/21/24 3:31:54 PM #1:	Seems she got into fights alot. And was a known bully who would attack girls. https://twitter.com/timdrak3__/status/1770866603447419248 I got into a fight like this in school, bully jumped me and eventually I bashed his head 3 times against the floor. Luckily we were like 10/11 so the kid just had a bruised head, and not teenagers where you can kill people accidentally(or in Kaylee's case, coma). <cite>TinyTim01 posted [p:979490075] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Seems she got into fights alot. And was a known bully who would attack girls. https://twitter.com/timdrak3__/status/1770866603447419248I got into a fight like this in school, bully jumped me and eventually I bashed his head 3 times against the floor. Luckily we were like 10/11 so the kid just had a bruised head, and not teenagers where you can kill people accidentally(or in Kaylee's case, coma).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corbenik 03/21/24 3:38:13 PM #2:	i dont think its legal to post underage kids fighting i think the same with homeless ppl --- The power it holds can bring either salvation or destruction at the whim of the user - Aura <cite>Corbenik posted [p:979490213] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>i dont think its legal to post underage kids fightingi think the same with homeless ppl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 03/21/24 3:43:55 PM #3:	Being bullied does not absolve attempted murder. <cite>garan posted [p:979490322] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Being bullied does not absolve attempted murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 03/21/24 3:46:36 PM #4:	garan posted... Being bullied does not absolve attempted murder. I mean, in a state with a stand your ground law, being attacked first actually does absolve attempted murder is it right? Maybe not. But its easy to see how after being bullied for a while someone might snap when attacked first (if that is indeed what happened) --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:979490360] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>garan posted... </cite><quote>Being bullied does not absolve attempted murder.</quote>I mean, in a state with a stand your ground law, being attacked first actually does absolve attempted murderis it right? Maybe not. But its easy to see how after being bullied for a while someone might snap when attacked first (if that is indeed what happened) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 03/21/24 3:46:38 PM #5:	I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl. --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:979490361] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 03/21/24 3:49:07 PM #6:	Victim blaming --- "May the Father of Understanding guide you." <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:979490395] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Victim blaming </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 03/21/24 3:54:07 PM #7:	This is where no tolerance policies are great, because it doesn't matter (to me) in the fucking least what justification people make for this kind of thing. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:979490494] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>This is where no tolerance policies are great, because it doesn't matter (to me) in the fucking least what justification people make for this kind of thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 03/21/24 3:55:13 PM #8:	MC_BatCommander posted... I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. --- THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:979490521] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl.</quote>Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/21/24 3:56:07 PM #9:	Endorsing this stuff can get you modded, so, y'know. Be furtive about it. But it's entirely possible the family is just unduly defending their own. I don't see a link, just a headline and a video. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:979490538] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Endorsing this stuff can get you modded, so, y'know. Be furtive about it.But it's entirely possible the family is just unduly defending their own. I don't see a link, just a headline and a video. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 03/21/24 4:13:48 PM #10:	It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw it out of the window for this case . --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979490854] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw it out of the window for this case . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 03/21/24 4:17:59 PM #11:	I just cant endorse smashing someones head into the pavement several times and then leaving their twitching body on the ground. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979490935] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I just cant endorse smashing someones head into the pavement several times and then leaving their twitching body on the ground. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 03/21/24 4:19:34 PM #12:	cjsdowg posted... It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw it out of the window for this case . These situations are never black and white unless they literally are black and white, cuz then it's really simple. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:979490969] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw it out of the window for this case .</quote>These situations are never black and whiteunless they literally are black and white, cuz then it's really simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/21/24 4:22:56 PM #13:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... These situations are never black and white unless they literally are black and white, cuz then it's really simple. Eh, this one's pretty "black and white." Change the race of the girl doing the head-slamming and suddenly she's a vicious violent animal who needs to be locked up, not a child defending herself. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979491029] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Jerry_Hellyeah posted... </cite><quote>These situations are never black and whiteunless they literally are black and white, cuz then it's really simple.</quote>Eh, this one's pretty "black and white."Change the race of the girl doing the head-slamming and suddenly she's a vicious violent animal who needs to be locked up, not a child defending herself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 03/21/24 4:26:40 PM #14:	What does that video even prove? You can't tell who anyone even is lol --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979491115] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>What does that video even prove? You can't tell who anyone even is lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/21/24 4:31:23 PM #15:	cjsdowg posted... It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw, it out of the window for this case . --- There's enough attention whores on CE already <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:979491199] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw, it out of the window for this case .</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi33 03/21/24 4:33:02 PM #17:	I can't agree with this muddy the waters logic. Black people get this done to them almost constantly. I refuse to do it in this case. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:979491223] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I can't agree with this muddy the waters logic. Black people get this done to them almost constantly. I refuse to do it in this case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 03/21/24 4:43:09 PM #18:	luigi33 posted... I can't agree with this muddy the waters logic. Black people get this done to them almost constantly. I refuse to do it in this case. Would the people who are going after the slammer offer you the same grace? --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:979491378] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>luigi33 posted... </cite><quote>I can't agree with this muddy the waters logic. Black people get this done to them almost constantly. I refuse to do it in this case.</quote>Would the people who are going after the slammer offer you the same grace? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 03/21/24 4:49:42 PM #19:	If the apparent attacker was actually defending themselves and things got out of hand, that can happen when emotions and the heat of battle are in play. Unless someone is a trained fighter, it's hard to not lose yourself in a fight especially if your defending yourself after constant attacks. But if your the attacker and choosing to display that level of violence, well, the dude does not abide. --- "I don't question our existence, I just question our modern needs" Pearl Jam - Garden My theme song - https://youtu.be/-PXIbVNfj3s <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:979491499] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>If the apparent attacker was actually defending themselves and things got out of hand, that can happen when emotions and the heat of battle are in play. Unless someone is a trained fighter, it's hard to not lose yourself in a fight especially if your defending yourself after constant attacks.But if your the attacker and choosing to display that level of violence, well, the dude does not abide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 03/21/24 4:51:08 PM #20:	There's a line that's crossed when the threat is neutralized. Based on the footage I've seen, that threshold was crossed before the first slam of the head into the concrete. --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:979491524] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>There's a line that's crossed when the threat is neutralized. Based on the footage I've seen, that threshold was crossed before the first slam of the head into the concrete. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psideresider 03/21/24 4:53:59 PM #21:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... I just cant endorse smashing someones head into the pavement several times and then leaving their twitching body on the ground. This is pretty much where Im at. --- "Running twice as fast to stay in the same place" -Faith No More <cite>psideresider posted [p:979491564] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>I just cant endorse smashing someones head into the pavement several times and then leaving their twitching body on the ground.</quote>This is pretty much where Im at. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoveLikeJazz 03/21/24 4:54:58 PM #22:	Yeah I mean I understand if Kaylee wasn't totally innocent, but the revenge went too far. Fight it out if you must, but you don't fucking maim the other person. I'm not advocating child violence at all (obligatory disclaimer) but for all we know Kaylee could have been tormenting her, so maybe she deserved a fair slap or two by the other girl. But not brain damage. That other girl should be punished. --- PSN: LoveLikeJazz https://soundcloud.com/pacuta <cite>LoveLikeJazz posted [p:979491586] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I mean I understand if Kaylee wasn't totally innocent, but the revenge went too far. Fight it out if you must, but you don't fucking maim the other person. I'm not advocating child violence at all (obligatory disclaimer) but for all we know Kaylee could have been tormenting her, so maybe she deserved a fair slap or two by the other girl. But not brain damage. That other girl should be punished. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
devilminion 03/21/24 5:03:51 PM #23:	So apparently there is more to the original video. There is an unedited clip on twitter that shows Kaylee (white girl) throwing fists first. There is also another clip, after the fight was over, where Kaylee is on the ground and a white girl kicks her in the head multiple times. (Disregard this bit. Apparently that was a completely different fight) Then there are also stories being spread around, and take them with a grain of salt since it is twitter, that Kaylee's parents were drug addicts, and her mom drove her to the fight, and can be seen in the parked car. Now, if this was a planned fight, then the whole "mugged walking home" narrative is out the window. Which, to be honest, wasn't that believable in the first place. --- All Hail https://i.imgur.com/uzIx6Jp.gif <cite>devilminion posted [p:979491744] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>So apparently there is more to the original video.There is an unedited clip on twitter that shows Kaylee (white girl) throwing fists first. There is also another clip, after the fight was over, where Kaylee is on the ground and a white girl kicks her in the head multiple times. (Disregard this bit. Apparently that was a completely different fight)Then there are also stories being spread around, and take them with a grain of salt since it is twitter, that Kaylee's parents were drug addicts, and her mom drove her to the fight, and can be seen in the parked car. Now, if this was a planned fight, then the whole "mugged walking home" narrative is out the window. Which, to be honest, wasn't that believable in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TinyTim01 03/21/24 5:15:44 PM #24:	Kaylee started the fight, yes. But the context is important. This was a brawl not a one on one fight. The 15 year old took out Kaylee then moved on to another girl attacking her. Thats the circumstances of a brawl; take one out then move into the next person, <cite>TinyTim01 posted [p:979491970] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Kaylee started the fight, yes.But the context is important. This was a brawl not a one on one fight. The 15 year old took out Kaylee then moved on to another girl attacking her. Thats the circumstances of a brawl; take one out then move into the next person, </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 03/21/24 5:15:58 PM #25:	Up front: I'm not saying the injured girl deserved it, nor am I absolving the other girl of any guilt. Now... I've seen enough video of Kaylee to know she wasn't an innocent bystander/victim. She bullies other girls and brags about jumping them and beating them up. She came there to fight. Her mom literally drove her there to fight. The other girl is nerdy, an honor-roll student and college-bound. Kaylee probably thought it would be an easy beat down, and it wasn't. <cite>Akuryu posted [p:979491977] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Up front: I'm not saying the injured girl deserved it, nor am I absolving the other girl of any guilt. Now...I've seen enough video of Kaylee to know she wasn't an innocent bystander/victim. She bullies other girls and brags about jumping them and beating them up. She came there to fight. Her mom literally drove her there to fight. The other girl is nerdy, an honor-roll student and college-bound. Kaylee probably thought it would be an easy beat down, and it wasn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 03/21/24 5:17:18 PM #26:	Mmm character assassination AND victim blaming --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979492008] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Mmm character assassination AND victim blaming </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy 03/21/24 5:21:22 PM #27:	if someone walks up to you and punches you in the face and you pick up a hammer and bust them in the skull five times in response, you're probably going to jail even if the other person was being an asshole --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... <cite>MarcyWarcy posted [p:979492089] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>if someone walks up to you and punches you in the face and you pick up a hammer and bust them in the skull five times in response, you're probably going to jail even if the other person was being an asshole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eramir 03/21/24 5:28:07 PM #28:	Post all videos? Bro provide some context of what youre trying to say or else ppl thinking youre making shit up, so far only one video! --- https://i.imgur.com/71J7IXn.png <cite>Eramir posted [p:979492217] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Post all videos? Bro provide some context of what youre trying to say or else ppl thinking youre making shit up, so far only one video! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkfire12 03/21/24 5:37:51 PM #29:	so is misgendering+blaming a teenage murder victim acceptable within the TOS now --- waiter! waiter! more yuri please!! she/her. trans rights <cite>Darkfire12 posted [p:979492403] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>so is misgendering+blaming a teenage murder victim acceptable within the TOS now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 03/21/24 5:43:08 PM #30:	I remember when I got moderated for having a strict No Tolerance policy towards children fighting because of this exact thing. But hey, I'm the asshole! --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:979492477] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I remember when I got moderated for having a strict No Tolerance policy towards children fighting because of this exact thing. But hey, I'm the asshole! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoveLikeJazz 03/21/24 11:46:13 PM #31:	Darkfire12 posted... so is misgendering+blaming a teenage murder victim acceptable within the TOS now Who tf is misgendering? --- PSN: LoveLikeJazz https://soundcloud.com/pacuta <cite>LoveLikeJazz posted [p:979497823] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Darkfire12 posted... </cite><quote>so is misgendering+blaming a teenage murder victim acceptable within the TOS now</quote>Who tf is misgendering? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pnut027 03/21/24 11:50:14 PM #33:	MC_BatCommander posted... I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl. Neutralizing the threat. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:979497872] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted... </cite><quote>I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl.</quote>Neutralizing the threat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotterdammerung 03/21/24 11:50:25 PM #34:	LoveLikeJazz posted... Who tf is misgendering? I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict case --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP They/them <cite>Rotterdammerung posted [p:979497877] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>LoveLikeJazz posted... </cite><quote>Who tf is misgendering?</quote>I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict case </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 03/21/24 11:50:34 PM #35:	Akuryu posted... The other girl is nerdy, an honor-roll student and college-bound. Kaylee probably thought it would be an easy beat down, and it wasn't. Pretty much --- There's enough attention whores on CE already <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:979497880] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Akuryu posted... </cite><quote>The other girl is nerdy, an honor-roll student and college-bound. Kaylee probably thought it would be an easy beat down, and it wasn't.</quote>Pretty much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkfire12 03/21/24 11:52:58 PM #36:	LoveLikeJazz posted... Who tf is misgendering? different thing? my bad if so --- waiter! waiter! more yuri please!! she/her. trans rights <cite>Darkfire12 posted [p:979497909] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>LoveLikeJazz posted... </cite><quote>Who tf is misgendering?</quote>different thing? my bad if so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 03/21/24 11:54:11 PM #37:	I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:979497922] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/21/24 11:55:50 PM #38:	Vyrulisse posted... I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing. Yes, and yet "blind rage" is not an excuse for a crime, so, uh... It doesn't matter who started what, or who said what. If you throw somebody to the ground and bash their head into the pavement several times, you've committed a very violent crime, and there's no excuse for it. Especially not "blind rage." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979497943] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing.</quote>Yes, and yet "blind rage" is not an excuse for a crime, so, uh...It doesn't matter who started what, or who said what. If you throw somebody to the ground and bash their head into the pavement several times, you've committed a very violent crime, and there's no excuse for it. Especially not "blind rage." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LoveLikeJazz 03/21/24 11:57:22 PM #39:	Rotterdammerung posted... I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict case Darkfire12 posted... different thing? my bad if so Oh ok np --- PSN: LoveLikeJazz https://soundcloud.com/pacuta <cite>LoveLikeJazz posted [p:979497961] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Rotterdammerung posted... </cite><quote>I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict case</quote>Darkfire12 posted... </cite><quote>different thing? my bad if so</quote>Oh ok np </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 03/21/24 11:57:54 PM #40:	StealThisSheen posted... Yes, and yet "blind rage" is not an excuse for a crime, so, uh... Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7T2OR-O2Vk <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:979497965] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>Yes, and yet "blind rage" is not an excuse for a crime, so, uh...</quote>Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pnut027 03/21/24 11:59:22 PM #41:	Vyrulisse posted... I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing. And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker. --- If you're not getting promoted, it's not because you're not good at your job. It's because you're good at ONLY your job. <cite>pnut027 posted [p:979497983] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing.</quote>And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/22/24 12:00:10 AM #42:	Vyrulisse posted... Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions. So what's your point, exactly? Spell it out, please. When you beat somebody, potentially to death, you better have a damn better reason than "blind rage." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979497996] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Vyrulisse posted... </cite><quote>Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions.</quote>So what's your point, exactly? Spell it out, please.When you beat somebody, potentially to death, you better have a damn better reason than "blind rage." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 03/22/24 12:06:27 AM #43:	pnut027 posted... And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker. If fighting multiple people and it's self defense lethal force is valid as far as I'm concerned. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979498060] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>pnut027 posted... </cite><quote>And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker.</quote>If fighting multiple people and it's self defense lethal force is valid as far as I'm concerned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 03/22/24 12:10:51 AM #44:	StealThisSheen posted... So what's your point, exactly? Spell it out, please. When you beat somebody, potentially to death, you better have a damn better reason than "blind rage." Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true it obviously isn't when it comes to skin color, but for the sake of argument --- BLACK LIVES MATTER* Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:979498105] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>So what's your point, exactly? Spell it out, please.When you beat somebody, potentially to death, you better have a damn better reason than "blind rage."</quote>Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true*it obviously isn't when it comes to skin color, but for the sake of argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dudebusters 03/22/24 12:11:36 AM #45:	Sufferedphoenix posted... If fighting multiple people and it's self defense lethal force is valid as far as I'm concerned. For what it's worth, the videos available do not show a brawl or fighting multiple people. It appears to be a one on one fight, and other people try to get involved to try to stop the attacker from beating on the victim, and then the attacker's friends step in, and then it becomes a brawl I'm not against a bullying claim, but the video does not support it at all. The attacker appears to be the attacker for the entire video, and the only time it devolves into a brawl is when people try to stop her from beating on the victim. --- I beat Call of Duty 4. In one day. WHAT UP! <cite>Dudebusters posted [p:979498110] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Sufferedphoenix posted... </cite><quote>If fighting multiple people and it's self defense lethal force is valid as far as I'm concerned.</quote>For what it's worth, the videos available do not show a brawl or fighting multiple people. It appears to be a one on one fight, and other people try to get involved to try to stop the attacker from beating on the victim, and then the attacker's friends step in, and then it becomes a brawlI'm not against a bullying claim, but the video does not support it at all. The attacker appears to be the attacker for the entire video, and the only time it devolves into a brawl is when people try to stop her from beating on the victim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/22/24 12:13:23 AM #46:	TheGoldenEel posted... Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true it obviously isn't when it comes to skin color, but for the sake of argument By Missouri law, you have to believe your life is in danger for stand your ground to apply, so this logic doesn't really apply to the situation, as far as we know from the videos released. An unarmed fight that you presumedly started, or, at best, agreed to take part in, would not fall under believing your life is in danger. --- Seplito* Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979498130] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true*it obviously isn't when it comes to skin color, but for the sake of argument</quote>By Missouri law, you have to believe your life is in danger for stand your ground to apply, so this logic doesn't really apply to the situation, as far as we know from the videos released. An unarmed fight that you presumedly started, or, at best, agreed to take part in, would not fall under believing your life is in danger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/22/24 12:16:56 AM #47:	I'll be honest, though. I'm jaded from "They were an honor student!" or whatever being the typical response to defend terrible actions. Don't forget the Kyle Rittenhouse "He was a boy scout who dreamed of being a police officer," crap, among other examples. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979498167] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>I'll be honest, though. I'm jaded from "They were an honor student!" or whatever being the typical response to defend terrible actions. Don't forget the Kyle Rittenhouse "He was a boy scout who dreamed of being a police officer," crap, among other examples. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 03/22/24 12:17:03 AM #48:	StealThisSheen posted... By Missouri law, you have to believe your life is in danger for stand your ground to apply, so this logic doesn't really apply to the situation, as far as we know from the videos released. An unarmed fight that you presumedly started, or, at best, agreed to take part in, would not fall under believing your life is in danger. https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-563-031/ 2. A person shall not use deadly force upon another person under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section unless: (1) He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, or herself or her unborn child, or another against death, serious physical injury, or any forcible felony; --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:979498170] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>By Missouri law, you have to believe your life is in danger for stand your ground to apply, so this logic doesn't really apply to the situation, as far as we know from the videos released. An unarmed fight that you presumedly started, or, at best, agreed to take part in, would not fall under believing your life is in danger.</quote>https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-563-031/<quote>2. A person shall not use deadly force upon another person under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section unless:(1) He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, or herself or her unborn child, or another against death, serious physical injury, or any forcible felony;</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 03/22/24 12:17:57 AM #49:	Dudebusters posted... For what it's worth, the videos available do not show a brawl or fighting multiple people. It appears to be a one on one fight, and other people try to get involved to try to stop the attacker from beating on the victim, and then the attacker's friends step in, and then it becomes a brawl I'm not against a bullying claim, but the video does not support it at all. The attacker appears to be the attacker for the entire video, and the only time it devolves into a brawl is when people try to stop her from beating on the victim. Unfortunately I can't watch the video right now so I'm just taking people for their word --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979498179] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>Dudebusters posted... </cite><quote>For what it's worth, the videos available do not show a brawl or fighting multiple people. It appears to be a one on one fight, and other people try to get involved to try to stop the attacker from beating on the victim, and then the attacker's friends step in, and then it becomes a brawlI'm not against a bullying claim, but the video does not support it at all. The attacker appears to be the attacker for the entire video, and the only time it devolves into a brawl is when people try to stop her from beating on the victim.</quote>Unfortunately I can't watch the video right now so I'm just taking people for their word </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/22/24 12:19:43 AM #50:	TheGoldenEel posted... https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-563-031/ Yes. When you are the attacker, or atleast a willing participant, in an unarmed fight, you waive the excuse of believing you risked death or serious physical injury. You have to have SOMETHING you can point to that would make your claim believable, which is why they're leaning on the bullying angle, since the other girl was clearly unarmed. That's why, in the big stand your ground cases, the "victim" claims the "attacker" had a weapon, or tried to take theirs, or so on. Notice they, so far, haven't even tried to claim "stand your ground." They appear to be going for public sympathy, without actual legal recourse. EDIT: Basically, I feel like there's a reason that the alleged attacker's family/defense hasn't even tried to argue "stand your ground," yet, and are instead going the "She's a good kid" and the kickstarter route. I feel like if they felt it was actually "stand your ground," they'd... You know, argue "stand your ground." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979498194] in Kayle the ... [t:80727165]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite><quote>https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-563-031/</quote>Yes. When you are the attacker, or atleast a willing participant, in an unarmed fight, you waive the excuse of believing you risked death or serious physical injury. You have to have SOMETHING you can point to that would make your claim believable, which is why they're leaning on the bullying angle, since the other girl was clearly unarmed. That's why, in the big stand your ground cases, the "victim" claims the "attacker" had a weapon, or tried to take theirs, or so on. Notice they, so far, haven't even tried to claim "stand your ground." They appear to be going for public sympathy, without actual legal recourse.EDIT: Basically, I feel like there's a reason that the alleged attacker's family/defense hasn't even tried to argue "stand your ground," yet, and are instead going the "She's a good kid" and the kickstarter route. I feel like if they felt it was actually "stand your ground," they'd... You know, argue "stand your ground." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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