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ClayGuida 03/19/24 10:27:42 PM #1:	The U.S. crime rate is still dropping, FBI data shows New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that crime is rising. The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime. Thats based on data from around 13,000 law enforcement agencies, policing about 82% of the U.S. population, that provided the FBI with data through December. It suggests that when we get the final data in October, we will have seen likely the largest one-year decline in murder that has ever been recorded, https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna144100 --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979460540] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>The U.S. crime rate is still dropping, FBI data shows<quote>New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that crime is rising.The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime. Thats based on data from around 13,000 law enforcement agencies, policing about 82% of the U.S. population, that provided the FBI with data through December.It suggests that when we get the final data in October, we will have seen likely the largest one-year decline in murder that has ever been recorded,</quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna144100 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaos_knight 03/19/24 10:28:26 PM #2:	Reported --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions <cite>chaos_knight posted [p:979460550] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Reported </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 03/21/24 8:52:31 PM #3:	https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1770975888219255204 --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979495338] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1770975888219255204 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 03/21/24 8:54:17 PM #4:	Thanks Obama --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:979495372] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Thanks Obama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 03/21/24 8:56:41 PM #5:	chaos_knight posted... Reported For what? --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:979495403] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>chaos_knight posted... </cite><quote>Reported</quote>For what? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RamenNoodles 03/21/24 8:57:07 PM #6:	You sure wouldnt know that watching Fox News, this country is worse than Haiti now run by criminals and murders everywhere <cite>RamenNoodles posted [p:979495410] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>You sure wouldnt know that watching Fox News, this country is worse than Haiti now run by criminals and murders everywhere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Weezy_Tha_Don 03/21/24 9:00:03 PM #7:	not according to trump and the republicans its not --- http://i.imgur.com/hwZyGuA.jpg - courtesy of the homie United_World born in this world crying, but die laughing. <cite>Weezy_Tha_Don posted [p:979495453] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>not according to trump and the republicans its not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 03/21/24 9:00:46 PM #8:	Weezy_Tha_Don posted... not according to trump and the republicans its not They would never lie, so I guess it's true! --- You were the geist that warned this frozen silent storm, you were but a ghost in my arms. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:979495460] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Weezy_Tha_Don posted... </cite><quote>not according to trump and the republicans its not</quote>They would never lie, so I guess it's true! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 03/21/24 9:03:04 PM #9:	That can't be right - all the ILLEGALS are murdering and plundering at an all time high! --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:979495483] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>That can't be right - all the ILLEGALS are murdering and plundering at an all time high! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkittyOnWailord 03/21/24 9:16:12 PM #10:	They're saving their energy for election day. --- I'm here! I'm furry! I'll try not to shed! =^_^= i7 5820K\|Rampage V Extreme\|32GB DDR4 Ripjaws 4\|EVGA 2080 Ti XC Ultra\|HAF 932 <cite>SkittyOnWailord posted [p:979495645] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>They're saving their energy for election day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 03/21/24 9:18:58 PM #11:	Humble_Novice posted... For what? I assume they were being sarcastic and highlighting that the right will call this "fake news." I know, I get it. Sarcasm is harder than ever to read, on the internet. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:979495686] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>For what?</quote>I assume they were being sarcastic and highlighting that the right will call this "fake news."I know, I get it. Sarcasm is harder than ever to read, on the internet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superbot400 03/21/24 9:20:57 PM #12:	Doesnt matter. Replubcians will argue that crime is happening with Democrats. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. <cite>superbot400 posted [p:979495722] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Doesnt matter. Replubcians will argue that crime is happening with Democrats. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 03/21/24 9:22:13 PM #13:	FolkenRawr posted... That can't be right - all the ILLEGALS are murdering and plundering at an all time high! That's the reason numbers are so low! Undocumented crime! Tremendous! --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1350834593843314690/EnpFvstZ_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:979495751] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>FolkenRawr posted... </cite><quote>That can't be right - all the ILLEGALS are murdering and plundering at an all time high!</quote>That's the reason numbers are so low! Undocumented crime! Tremendous! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 03/21/24 9:23:42 PM #14:	Let me chud this one under the rug: It's because the Biden crime family has made it legal for people to steal and just come right over the border. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:979495778] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Let me chud this one under the rug:It's because the Biden crime family has made it legal for people to steal and just come right over the border. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archizzy 03/21/24 9:24:04 PM #15:	Makes sense as we now have more guns than ever. This proves more guns are the solution. (Yes this was sarcasm) --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:979495782] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Makes sense as we now have more guns than ever. This proves more guns are the solution.(Yes this was sarcasm) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus 03/21/24 9:28:17 PM #16:	People don't want to be shot by these trigger happy cops --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:979495856] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>People don't want to be shot by these trigger happy cops </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/21/24 9:29:30 PM #17:	LeoRavus posted... People don't want to be shot by these trigger happy cops "Not doing crime" has hardly stopped the cops from killing people before. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979495870] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>People don't want to be shot by these trigger happy cops</quote>"Not doing crime" has hardly stopped the cops from killing people before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 03/22/24 12:44:37 AM #18:	Republican narrative in shambles. Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979498464] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Republican narrative in shambles.Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 03/22/24 8:26:32 AM #19:	Kradek posted... Republican narrative in shambles. Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame. You'll never hear this on Fox. So it simply didn't happen. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979501754] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>Republican narrative in shambles.Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame.</quote>You'll never hear this on Fox. So it simply didn't happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VGAddict90 03/22/24 8:28:22 AM #20:	This country would be in MUCH better shape if PBS NewsHour were the most-watched news program instead of Fox News. <cite>VGAddict90 posted [p:979501772] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>This country would be in MUCH better shape if PBS NewsHour were the most-watched news program instead of Fox News.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/22/24 8:35:39 AM #21:	Weezy_Tha_Don posted... not according to trump and the republicans its not Imagine how much faster it would be dropping without their continued existence. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979501835] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Weezy_Tha_Don posted... </cite><quote>not according to trump and the republicans its not</quote>Imagine how much faster it would be dropping without their continued existence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 03/22/24 8:51:28 AM #22:	Kradek posted... Republican narrative in shambles. Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame. Plus, conservatives own much of the mass media, anyway. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:979502004] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>Republican narrative in shambles.Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame.</quote>Plus, conservatives own much of the mass media, anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Number090684 03/22/24 9:15:49 AM #24:	Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same. <cite>Number090684 posted [p:979502318] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/22/24 9:22:03 AM #25:	Democrats and Biden need to actually message this more. Message more on crime and the economy doing much better. It's true Republicans are lying it's bad, but Biden/Democrats are kind of just letting them lie by not really pushing consistently just how much of a lie it is. They will comment every once in a while about it, but the American independent and swing voters have the memory of a goldfish. You have to constantly and consistently remind them crime is down and the economy is doing much better than Trumps presidency. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979502400] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Democrats and Biden need to actually message this more.Message more on crime and the economy doing much better.It's true Republicans are lying it's bad, but Biden/Democrats are kind of just letting them lie by not really pushing consistently just how much of a lie it is. They will comment every once in a while about it, but the American independent and swing voters have the memory of a goldfish. You have to constantly and consistently remind them crime is down and the economy is doing much better than Trumps presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 03/22/24 9:24:13 AM #26:	Yeah, but I don't FEEL safer because the news keeps telling me I'm not because a democrat is in office! --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979502438] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but I don't FEEL safer because the news keeps telling me I'm not because a democrat is in office! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 03/22/24 9:24:16 AM #27:	Number090684 posted... Mostly feels the same. It's a good thing statistics aren't beaten by feelings, unless you're the U.S. media of course who cares more about how people are feeling than facts. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979502440] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite><quote>Mostly feels the same.</quote>It's a good thing statistics aren't beaten by feelings, unless you're the U.S. media of course who cares more about how people are feeling than facts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/22/24 9:24:17 AM #28:	Kradek posted... Republican narrative in shambles. Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame. Their usual angle is to either pretend it's still bad. Or if it's harder to pretend it's still bad, claim the evidence presented to them isn't the real evidence. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979502441] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>Republican narrative in shambles.Or would be if they were capable of integrity and shame.</quote>Their usual angle is to either pretend it's still bad. Or if it's harder to pretend it's still bad, claim the evidence presented to them isn't the real evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 03/22/24 10:17:36 AM #29:	Number090684 posted... Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same. Your gut feelings say more than real evidence ever could! --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:979503205] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite><quote>Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same.</quote>Your gut feelings say more than real evidence ever could! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 03/22/24 10:19:46 AM #30:	Number090684 posted... Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same. Lol --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979503248] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite><quote>Eh this doesn't seem to be entirely accurate. Hundreds of not thousands of videos of crimes are posted everyday online, and those are the ones that were recorded. Pretty sure a decent amount of criminals manage to get away with their crimes too. Considering that and how many mass shootings we have it's definitely still a good idea to keep your head in a swivel. Not trying to say things haven't been improving under Biden or anything. Mostly feels the same.</quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 03/22/24 10:28:16 AM #32:	Heineken14 posted... Yeah, but I don't FEEL safer because the news keeps telling me I'm not because a democrat is in office! --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:979503379] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, but I don't FEEL safer because the news keeps telling me I'm not because a democrat is in office!</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/22/24 3:24:33 PM #33:	Number090684 posted... Mostly feels the same. How did the line go? "Fuck your feelings?" --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979508411] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Number090684 posted... </cite><quote>Mostly feels the same.</quote>How did the line go?"Fuck your feelings?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 03/22/24 3:25:48 PM #34:	Just remember these stats are REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats. It's like that with some police departments. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:979508428] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Just remember these stats are REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats. It's like that with some police departments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Verdekal 03/22/24 3:26:14 PM #35:	Cool. Crime rose during COVID. I wonder what it was during the lockdown that made crime rise. Could be an interesting study. --- Don't tease the octopus, kids! <cite>Verdekal posted [p:979508437] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Cool. Crime rose during COVID.I wonder what it was during the lockdown that made crime rise. Could be an interesting study. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningThief 03/22/24 4:07:17 PM #37:	deanshow posted... Just remember these stats are REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats. It's like that with some police departments. Just remember what you are trying to spin was also happening under dear leader Trump. Crime during Trumps presidency was stats that was "REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats." Crime didn't suddenly stop being reported when Biden became president, "so we can hide the real numbers." Like I swear some of the things Trump supporters say,they don't stop to think their own logic applies to dear leader too. It's not even that they don't think it should, the thought just doesn't even cross their mind. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979509059] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted... </cite><quote>Just remember these stats are REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats. It's like that with some police departments.</quote>Just remember what you are trying to spin was also happening under dear leader Trump. Crime during Trumps presidency was stats that was "REPORTED crimes and stuff that doesn't get reported doesn't get added to the stats."Crime didn't suddenly stop being reported when Biden became president, "so we can hide the real numbers."Like I swear some of the things Trump supporters say,they don't stop to think their own logic applies to dear leader too. It's not even that they don't think it should, the thought just doesn't even cross their mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yawn_Master2 03/22/24 4:07:44 PM #38:	Cool 8) --- "Trying to define yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth." <cite>Yawn_Master2 posted [p:979509065] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Cool 8) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 03/22/24 4:09:45 PM #39:	LightningThief posted... Just remember what you are trying to spin was also happening under dear leader Trump. Crime didn't suddenly stop being reported when Biden became president, "so we can hide the real numbers." The biggest drawback to those nationwide crime reports is it's only for reported crimes. That's how it's been. I'm just stating the truth, no bias on my end. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's most definitely happened. A good way for police to get better budgets is to show crime is down across the board and it looks like they're doing their jobs. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:979509102] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>LightningThief posted... </cite><quote>Just remember what you are trying to spin was also happening under dear leader Trump.Crime didn't suddenly stop being reported when Biden became president, "so we can hide the real numbers."</quote>The biggest drawback to those nationwide crime reports is it's only for reported crimes. That's how it's been. I'm just stating the truth, no bias on my end.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It's most definitely happened. A good way for police to get better budgets is to show crime is down across the board and it looks like they're doing their jobs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 03/22/24 4:10:38 PM #40:	LightningThief posted... Democrats and Biden need to actually message this more. Message more on crime and the economy doing much better. It's true Republicans are lying it's bad, but Biden/Democrats are kind of just letting them lie by not really pushing consistently just how much of a lie it is. They will comment every once in a while about it, but the American independent and swing voters have the memory of a goldfish. You have to constantly and consistently remind them crime is down and the economy is doing much better than Trumps presidency. Need to be careful on this, actually. If you start to come out and say that crime is coming down, people can turn against you if they do not feel that crime is clming down--even if you have the stats to back it up. At the end of the day, people's feels matter a lot. Even if they aren't always rational. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:979509116] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>LightningThief posted... </cite><quote>Democrats and Biden need to actually message this more.Message more on crime and the economy doing much better.It's true Republicans are lying it's bad, but Biden/Democrats are kind of just letting them lie by not really pushing consistently just how much of a lie it is. They will comment every once in a while about it, but the American independent and swing voters have the memory of a goldfish. You have to constantly and consistently remind them crime is down and the economy is doing much better than Trumps presidency.</quote>Need to be careful on this, actually. If you start to come out and say that crime is coming down, people can turn against you if they do not feel that crime is clming down--even if you have the stats to back it up.At the end of the day, people's feels matter a lot. Even if they aren't always rational. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haejin 03/22/24 4:11:42 PM #41:	You have Biden to thank for that. Dark Brandon delivers justice. --- https://i.imgur.com/Iox9hAv.png <cite>Haejin posted [p:979509143] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>You have Biden to thank for that. Dark Brandon delivers justice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 03/22/24 4:11:47 PM #42:	Crime is definitely down though, anyone denying that is a fool. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:979509145] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Crime is definitely down though, anyone denying that is a fool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/22/24 4:14:00 PM #43:	deanshow posted... The biggest drawback to those nationwide crime reports is it's only for reported crimes. That's how it's been. I'm just stating the truth, no bias on my end. You aren't saying anything. What you are saying applies to all presidential terms. Not just Bidens. So you are trying to spin this the "real numbers" bs. You want facts? Crime was worse under Trump, and the nationwide crime report only applying to reported crimes applies to your dear leader too. Meaning those "real numbers" you are alluding to were even worse under Trump. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979509174] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted... </cite><quote>The biggest drawback to those nationwide crime reports is it's only for reported crimes. That's how it's been. I'm just stating the truth, no bias on my end.</quote>You aren't saying anything. What you are saying applies to all presidential terms. Not just Bidens.So you are trying to spin this the "real numbers" bs. You want facts? Crime was worse under Trump, and the nationwide crime report only applying to reported crimes applies to your dear leader too. Meaning those "real numbers" you are alluding to were even worse under Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hospy 03/22/24 4:24:16 PM #45:	While the crime rate going down nationally is obviously a good thing, it's not exactly a comforting statistic when crime in your locality is going up. My city (Seattle) just had the highest number of homicides since '94 and the overall crime rate has only been trending up since the early 2000s. <cite>Hospy posted [p:979509307] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>While the crime rate going down nationally is obviously a good thing, it's not exactly a comforting statistic when crime in your locality is going up. My city (Seattle) just had the highest number of homicides since '94 and the overall crime rate has only been trending up since the early 2000s.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/22/24 4:25:04 PM #46:	Xenogears15 posted... Need to be careful on this, actually. If you start to come out and say that crime is coming down, people can turn against you if they do not feel that crime is clming down--even if you have the stats to back it up. At the end of the day, people's feels matter a lot. Even if they aren't always rational. People feel crime isnt down despite the facts because unfortunately Republicans are just better at messaging. Ultimately controlling people's feelings. When Republicans have a win, they don't celebrate or message on it here and there. They repeat it at nauseum to make sure the American people, and more importantly those swing voters hear it and think it's true. Democrats don't do that, they message on it here and there, but for the most part they let Republicans take the steering wheel on the narrative. Democrats believe the facts will speak for itself, and that the American people are paying attention to the facts.....which we should know by now that swing voters are well informed on politics....like at all. They just know what Tiktok, Facebook, YouTube or whatever influencer or talking piece they hear the most. Republicans are more aware of this hence why they repeat their messaging even when it's a known lie. They even let Republicans straight up lie. There's even that minority of left leaners who will happily regurgitate some of Republicans talking points like Kyle Kulinski or Breahna Joy if the Democrats "didnt do enough." My point is, controlling those feelings or perspective of a narrative means you have to constantly message about it at nauseum. Over and over, day after day, week after week, month after month in near unison. Certainly doesnt mean the jobs done ofc, but you use the victory as a stepping stone to message and accomplish even more. Thank God Democrats have gotten better in the past 4 years, but still have a ways to go on their messaging. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979509319] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Need to be careful on this, actually. If you start to come out and say that crime is coming down, people can turn against you if they do not feel that crime is clming down--even if you have the stats to back it up.At the end of the day, people's feels matter a lot. Even if they aren't always rational.</quote>People feel crime isnt down despite the facts because unfortunately Republicans are just better at messaging. Ultimately controlling people's feelings.When Republicans have a win, they don't celebrate or message on it here and there. They repeat it at nauseum to make sure the American people, and more importantly those swing voters hear it and think it's true. Democrats don't do that, they message on it here and there, but for the most part they let Republicans take the steering wheel on the narrative. Democrats believe the facts will speak for itself, and that the American people are paying attention to the facts.....which we should know by now that swing voters are well informed on politics....like at all. They just know what Tiktok, Facebook, YouTube or whatever influencer or talking piece they hear the most. Republicans are more aware of this hence why they repeat their messaging even when it's a known lie.They even let Republicans straight up lie. There's even that minority of left leaners who will happily regurgitate some of Republicans talking points like Kyle Kulinski or Breahna Joy if the Democrats "didnt do enough."My point is, controlling those feelings or perspective of a narrative means you have to constantly message about it at nauseum. Over and over, day after day, week after week, month after month in near unison. Certainly doesnt mean the jobs done ofc, but you use the victory as a stepping stone to message and accomplish even more.Thank God Democrats have gotten better in the past 4 years, but still have a ways to go on their messaging. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 03/22/24 4:25:55 PM #47:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] In places where talking to the police can get you killed definitely. Also a lot of petty crimes don't get reported due to people not wanting to deal with the paperwork and such. Bigger crimes like murder and stuff are down though. You can't really fake murder stats. LightningThief posted... You aren't saying anything. What you are saying applies to all presidential terms. Not just Bidens. So you are trying to spin this the "real numbers" bs. You want facts? Crime was worse under Trump, and the nationwide crime report only applying to reported crimes applies to your dear leader too. Meaning those "real numbers" you are alluding to were even worse under Trump. I never said it didn't. You're the one taking this as a swipe at Biden, I'm just saying there's a flaw in the reporting. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:979509335] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> In places where talking to the police can get you killed definitely. Also a lot of petty crimes don't get reported due to people not wanting to deal with the paperwork and such. Bigger crimes like murder and stuff are down though. You can't really fake murder stats.LightningThief posted... </cite><quote>You aren't saying anything. What you are saying applies to all presidential terms. Not just Bidens.So you are trying to spin this the "real numbers" bs. You want facts? Crime was worse under Trump, and the nationwide crime report only applying to reported crimes applies to your dear leader too. Meaning those "real numbers" you are alluding to were even worse under Trump.</quote>I never said it didn't. You're the one taking this as a swipe at Biden, I'm just saying there's a flaw in the reporting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deanshow 03/22/24 4:39:54 PM #49:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] There's the tricky part, I think cop shootings are their own stats if I remembered correctly. So they don't count towards murders and such. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:979509538] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> There's the tricky part, I think cop shootings are their own stats if I remembered correctly. So they don't count towards murders and such. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 03/22/24 5:22:00 PM #50:	REPORTED crime is going down. ACTUAL crime is at an all time high under Biden. Because of inflation, no one can afford their phone bills, so they don't call 911 anymore, they just live with the consequences. More Hannity after this commercial from MyPillow... ~~Obvious Sarcasm~~ --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:979510155] in US Crime r... [t:80725864]...</cite> <quote>REPORTED crime is going down. ACTUAL crime is at an all time high under Biden.Because of inflation, no one can afford their phone bills, so they don't call 911 anymore, they just live with the consequences.More Hannity after this commercial from MyPillow...Obvious Sarcasm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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