Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 12: The path to either Justice or Anarchy.

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GranAures
03/25/24 11:19:17 AM
#401:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1772280812576051364

45 minute break is going on now, apparently
Well, you see, they didn't just drop the case and pronounce Trump innocent. As such they didn't do enough.
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CableZL
03/25/24 11:21:29 AM
#402:


https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1772282534073598345

Trump gets bailed out again. Unreal.

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Euripides
03/25/24 11:23:58 AM
#403:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1772282534073598345

Trump gets bailed out again. Unreal.

I CALLED IT

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jefffan
03/25/24 11:25:40 AM
#404:


Eh. Listening to legal experts on MSNBC last week it was probably likely to be reduced. Didn't expected that much.

I doubt he has that much money available anyway still. Though that could be long enough to get the social media deal to go through. Time will yell.

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CableZL
03/25/24 11:26:00 AM
#405:


https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=M5s4ZTPZwujdVv7x0_PLUS_ENFA==

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d2707489.jpg

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Zikten
03/25/24 11:27:46 AM
#407:


Fucking why
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Heineken14
03/25/24 11:28:22 AM
#408:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


It's less of a 2 tiered justice system and more of a 3 tiered one, because republicans seem to get their own tier above even just standard rich people tier.

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CableZL
03/25/24 11:30:06 AM
#410:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772282660468986100

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mystic_belmont
03/25/24 11:31:49 AM
#411:


Well, you see, if Trump raised it back then, he couldn't use it to push the trial back now.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/25/24 11:32:43 AM
#412:


Fuck this sham of a "justice" system. No regular person would get half the leniency for a quarter of the crimes.


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loafy013
03/25/24 11:35:13 AM
#413:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1772282534073598345

Trump gets bailed out again. Unreal.
Any reason given for why they did this?

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CableZL
03/25/24 11:38:05 AM
#414:


loafy013 posted...
Any reason given for why they did this?

The order doesn't go into any detail as to why. It's just two pages long. The first page is basically saying that they reviewed the appeal and the relevant filings and the second page is the order.

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CableZL
03/25/24 11:39:17 AM
#415:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e78ca8ef.jpg

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CADE_FOSTER
03/25/24 11:41:55 AM
#416:


Trump will never face real consequences and that's what sucks
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Takuya_Lee
03/25/24 11:43:58 AM
#417:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Trump will never face real consequences and that's what sucks

Him having to pay money is real consequences.

And also he cannot legitimately borrow money now and all his money moves are under heavy scrutiny.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/25/24 11:46:00 AM
#418:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Him having to pay money is real consequences.

And also he cannot legitimately borrow money now and all his money moves are under heavy scrutiny.

The real consequences would have been seizing his properties, not letting him appeal with a significantly less amount so he can continue to delay

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CableZL
03/25/24 11:49:16 AM
#419:


https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1772289081772306657

One thing I'm kinda wondering, though... The wording in the order does seem to suggest that he "only" has to pay ~$175 million IF he posts the money within 10 days. Does that mean it goes back to the original amount if he doesn't pay in 10 days?

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Tyranthraxus
03/25/24 11:53:46 AM
#420:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1772289081772306657

One thing I'm kinda wondering, though... The wording in the order does seem to suggest that he "only" has to pay ~$175 million IF he posts the money within 10 days. Does that mean it goes back to the original amount if he doesn't pay in 10 days?

Sounds more like if he doesn't pay in 10 days the seizing begins immediately.

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Zikten
03/25/24 11:56:33 AM
#421:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Sounds more like if he doesn't pay in 10 days the seizing begins immediately.
Unless they delay again.
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Alucard188
03/25/24 11:59:47 AM
#423:


Honestly, I never expected them to be able to collect on anything even close to $475 million from Donald J. Trump. None of his properties are worth that much, and he doesn't have any liquid assets. The only thing he has is a trumped-up stock option through Truth Social's merger. Yes, I know - don't do the crime if you can't afford the time. This is just a bond so the appeal process can begin. I wonder if he even has $175 million.

I want him ruined, and his entire family legacy quashed. I will settle for him just sinking ignominably into debt, never being president again, and dying alone and unloved.

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:01:57 PM
#424:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a2b3bfb5.jpg

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:04:22 PM
#425:


Looks like the break in the Manhattan hearing is over. I'm not sure how long this hearing is supposed to be, though.

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Irony
03/25/24 12:08:52 PM
#426:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Him having to pay money is real consequences.

And also he cannot legitimately borrow money now and all his money moves are under heavy scrutiny.
He's not going to pay it, they'll just extend it and reduce it again

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davyheinz
03/25/24 12:12:03 PM
#427:


Trump always gets a lifeline. Absolutely pathetic system we have.

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KingInBlack
03/25/24 12:12:07 PM
#428:


We're all supposed to follow the law while others don't have to. He couldn't even appeal without paying the money, but the courts just changes everything, delays it, and then requires a fraction of the bond money.
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CADE_FOSTER
03/25/24 12:13:10 PM
#429:


Pretty sure this countries laws were made to benefit the rich and powerful
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Mearcstapa
03/25/24 12:13:11 PM
#430:


I swear, that piece of shit has got to have the thickest plot armor of anyone in history.

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:13:28 PM
#431:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772295433353609528

April 15th for Trump's first criminal trial. The judge was clearly not happy with Trump's delay tactics.

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CADE_FOSTER
03/25/24 12:13:59 PM
#432:


need to change his name to Teflon Don
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littlebro07
03/25/24 12:14:10 PM
#433:


Appeal just means it has to be reviewed by another court/judge right? So theres still a likelihood of them finding him liable and hell need to fork over all the money?

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/25/24 12:16:33 PM
#434:


littlebro07 posted...
Appeal just means it has to be reviewed by another court/judge right? So theres still a likelihood of them finding him liable and hell need to fork over all the money?

Yes, but the problem is this allows him to stall and delay even further

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Alucard188
03/25/24 12:16:39 PM
#435:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
Pretty sure this countries laws were made to benefit the rich and powerful

This is your reminder that the system isn't broken; it's working exactly as designed. Power to the people? Nah. Power to the rich.

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:19:34 PM
#436:


Another question: Did they possibly just reduce the amount he has to pay to stay the execution pending appeal to $175 and the total judgement still stands if he loses the appeal?

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AlCalavicci
03/25/24 12:21:16 PM
#437:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772295433353609528

April 15th for Trump's first criminal trial. The judge was clearly not happy with Trump's delay tactics.

Only 3 weeks from now :)

Does he have any other ways this can be delayed?

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:21:29 PM
#438:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772297569063870541

Please don't grant that bullshit

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ThePieReborn
03/25/24 12:21:59 PM
#439:


CableZL posted...
Another question: Did they possibly just reduce the amount he has to pay to stay the execution pending appeal to $175 and the total judgement still stands if he loses the appeal?
Total judgment stands if the appellate court affirms. Bond amount and payment thereof doesn't change that, nor does it preclude post-judgment interest from accruing or for Trump potentially being on the hook for the costs of the appeal.

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Alucard188
03/25/24 12:22:16 PM
#440:


CableZL posted...
Another question: Did they possibly just reduce the amount he has to pay to stay the execution pending appeal to $175 and the total judgement still stands if he loses the appeal?

That's my assumption. To post the bond and allow the appeal he only had to put 33% towards the final judgment. It hasn't gone through the appeal process yet, so there won't be any mitigating of that amount until it does.

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AlCalavicci
03/25/24 12:22:33 PM
#441:


CableZL posted...
Another question: Did they possibly just reduce the amount he has to pay to stay the execution pending appeal to $175 and the total judgement still stands if he loses the appeal?

This is my interpretation, but I am no expert

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mystic_belmont
03/25/24 12:23:22 PM
#442:


If they approved the bond, it stops the collection.

If they lose the appeal, they have to pay everything.

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:23:31 PM
#443:


ThePieReborn posted...
Total judgment stands if the appellate court affirms. Bond amount doesn't change that, nor does it preclude post-judgment interest from accruing or for Trump potentially being on the hook for the costs of the appeal.

As much as I wanted to see Trump get grabbed by the properties this week, I'm OK with that.

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CableZL
03/25/24 12:25:08 PM
#444:


https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772298095792955707

So starting on April 15th, Trump will be required to be in the courtroom all day for the duration of the criminal trial. Will his lawyers be able to control his childish behavior?

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GranAures
03/25/24 12:27:02 PM
#445:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KatiePhang/status/1772297569063870541

Please don't grant that bullshit
Only one party decided on creating pretrial publicity. And it wasn't the court, it was the guy screeching witch hunt as he was walking in.

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AlCalavicci
03/25/24 12:27:38 PM
#446:


CableZL posted...
Will his lawyers be able to control his childish behavior?

Absolutely not

would love to see Trump held in contempt though

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mystic_belmont
03/25/24 12:27:40 PM
#447:


CableZL posted...
So starting on April 15th, Trump will be required to be in the courtroom all day for the duration of the criminal trial. Will his lawyers be able to control his childish behavior?

They will try, and may even succeed for the first few days, but than he's going to be hard to control.

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Shadow_Don
03/25/24 12:29:45 PM
#448:


Fucking finally.

Sucks that the weakest case is going first but it looks like trumps attorneys are already having a rough time.

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ClayGuida
03/25/24 12:48:31 PM
#449:


I'm pretty over all this honestly. Call me when there's a verdict, fine, or arrest.

The rich rarely get held accountable.

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tremain07
03/25/24 12:52:55 PM
#450:


What a disappointing outcome fuck this

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