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Doe
03/17/24 5:45:06 PM
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This is the first issue of Watchmen. It's so on the nose how crazy he is. Everybody is telling you he's crazy. He shows you he's crazy.

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VeggetaX
03/17/24 5:49:09 PM
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But we live in a society

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Mistere_Man
03/17/24 5:50:36 PM
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Sometimes the world needs a little crazy.

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refmon
03/17/24 5:51:20 PM
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Mistere_Man posted...
Sometimes the world needs a little crazy.


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Doe
03/17/24 5:52:19 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/36c7a361.jpg

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Hayame_Zero
03/17/24 5:52:34 PM
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Guide
03/19/24 1:41:30 PM
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I'd say his movie depiction is probably the one that gets him the idolization. They cut out his bootlicking absolutism for a need to make the truth known regardless of the outcome, which I find much more respectable.

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bigblu89
03/19/24 1:44:30 PM
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I don't know if I'd put Tyler Durden (especially the book version) in that mix, considering the average "F Wall Street and Corporate America" liberal, which CE is filled with, wishes they were him.

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CobraGT
03/19/24 1:44:42 PM
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Fill the world with clones if this is a problem.

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BobanMarjanovic
03/19/24 1:45:52 PM
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What's wrong with Travis bickle

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boomgetchopped3
03/19/24 1:49:31 PM
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You can find villains fascinating too. Its the beauty of fiction.

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Doe
03/19/24 1:51:47 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
You can find villains fascinating too. Its the beauty of fiction.
"Find fascinating" is a completely different conversation than "look up to".

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luigi33
03/19/24 1:53:35 PM
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He's a "literally me" kind of character. Usually appealing to young white men. Another would be Phoenix Joker, or the main character from Peaky Blinders.

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LonelyStoner
03/19/24 1:56:22 PM
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Im not locked in here with you.

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NeonOPPAl
03/19/24 1:57:29 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/65a6a27d.jpg
lmao that's too perfect. It just needs Gordon Gekko to be complete

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NeonOPPAl
03/19/24 1:58:20 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
I don't know if I'd put Tyler Durden (especially the book version) in that mix, considering the average "F Wall Street and Corporate America" liberal, which CE is filled with, wishes they were him.
May I direct you to this?

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/65a6a27d.jpg

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name_unknown
03/19/24 1:58:51 PM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
What's wrong with Travis bickle
Did someone miss he was going to assassinate a political candidate after being turned down for more dates?

Punisher is missing from picture.
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ai123
03/19/24 2:11:44 PM
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Because people fantasise about being the lone wolf, no compromise, tough guy, dispensing their brand of justice.

This allows them to overlook stalking, rape, and murder, among other things. Because tough guy lone wolf answers to no one.

I should hardly need to point out the gulf between they way these people see themselves and the way they really are: weak-minded sociopaths who mistake nihilism for moral purpose.

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LonelyStoner
03/19/24 2:14:11 PM
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ai123 posted...
Because people fantasise about being the lone wolf, no compromise, tough guy, dispensing their brand of justice.

This allows them to overlook stalking, rape, and murder, among other things. Because tough guy lone wolf answers to no one.

I should hardly need to point out the gulf between they way these people see themselves and the way they really are: weak-minded sociopaths who mistake nihilism for moral purpose.
Wait, when did Rorschach rape someone?

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ZevLoveDOOM
03/19/24 2:14:27 PM
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been a while since i read The Watchmen but dude gave me some strong edgelord "we live in a society" type of vibes... lol
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ai123
03/19/24 2:17:39 PM
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LonelyStoner posted...
Wait, when did Rorschach rape someone?
He didn't as far as I know.

I was referring collectively to the 'anti hero' types that get worshipped. In this case Alex DeLarge.

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Doe
03/19/24 2:19:41 PM
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LonelyStoner posted...
Wait, when did Rorschach rape someone?
I haven't read him do it yet but he is a huge rape apologist which you can see on post 5. In fact directly after that sequence the comic flashes back to the actual event where indeed you see the Comedian violently assault someone.

Rorschach, despite hatefully dismissing the masses of the US as pedophile vermins, is totally forgiving of actions like attempted rape as long as the person otherwise acted in a way Rorschach conceptualizes as somehow in service to the country.

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Notti
03/22/24 7:59:45 AM
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He's the type of guy I usually hate.

But he does have that epic line

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AlephZero
03/22/24 8:08:18 AM
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Did they ever explain why Rorschach has a mask with two men having sex on it?

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Heineken14
03/22/24 8:17:53 AM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/65a6a27d.jpg

Feel like this should have Jigsaw in there too. I remember countless people on the movies board during Saws height talking about how he wasn't necessarily wrong and arguing that he wasn't a murderer.

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ssjevot
03/22/24 8:22:52 AM
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I would put Light Yagami in there too.

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Doe
03/22/24 8:25:43 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Feel like this should have Jigsaw in there too. I remember countless people on the movies board during Saws height talking about how he wasn't necessarily wrong and arguing that he wasn't a murderer.
This may be largely a meme is the thing. There's a similar one where people argue that you could technically never convict Saw and they'll pretend to be law school graduates and say it was taught in class

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McMarbles
03/22/24 8:35:58 AM
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LonelyStoner posted...
Wait, when did Rorschach rape someone?
Dont remember that.

Big homophobe, though!

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Bass
03/22/24 8:39:51 AM
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Alan Moore has some words for them too.

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Foppe
03/22/24 8:48:46 AM
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If I remember correct, Rorschach starts like he sees things as black and white, but later we learn that it is more to feel good at the moment.
He beats up a rapist and leaves him to the police, but he got no stronger feelings about the Comedians rape.
He probably thought that she deserved it the way she dressed or something.
He also stops beating up somebody because he sees a crying kid.

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Kradek
03/22/24 9:08:13 AM
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He may have had stupid logic for arguing the Comedian wasn't a Nazi, however he was right in calling out Veidt on his bullshit. That dude definitely considered himself overly special compared to everybody else.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/22/24 9:14:14 AM
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A lot of these guys want to be Rorschach so bad, but are really just a more unlikable Nite Owl

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St0rmFury
03/22/24 9:25:47 AM
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Notti posted...
He's the type of guy I usually hate.

But he does have that epic line
The "you're locked in here with me" line?

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Irony
03/22/24 9:28:25 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
The "you're locked in here with me" line?
Yes

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Zikten
03/22/24 9:54:29 AM
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LonelyStoner posted...
Im not locked in here with you.
I think that's the main reason people like him. He goes to prison and is a badass there. That scene in the prison cafeteria is why people think he is cool
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creativerealms
03/22/24 9:58:34 AM
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I can believe it. And that makes it worse.

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Rotterdammerung
03/22/24 10:03:53 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
I don't know if I'd put Tyler Durden (especially the book version) in that mix, considering the average "F Wall Street and Corporate America" liberal, which CE is filled with, wishes they were him.
Youre right, the book has a lot more queer subtext misogyny thrown in.

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Irony
03/22/24 10:10:52 AM
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Rorschach is a MAGAer

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/22/24 10:11:25 AM
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I can see how somebody could walk away from Watchmen with the perspective that Rorshach was right and the world just effin sucks. Even in the comic.

The story is about a changing world and rigid ideology. It even frames the guy who's most trying to adapt as the villain, until he convinces everyone else to agree with him.

In that interpretation, Rorshach would be the one voice of reason being driven to madness by the pressure of a world that won't tolerate his ideals, until it eventually unjustly kills him to erase his ideology.

By no means do I think that's the intended interpretation or anything. But the story is plenty complex for different people to take different things away from it.
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-Crissaegrim-
03/22/24 1:37:32 PM
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The film version of him has some admirable traits, despite all of his rough edges, and while he is a borderline lunatic with his methods and is paranoid to a fault, much of his drive is somewhat justified when you weigh up what he's up against and just how bad things have gotten.

By the end of the film, he's the only character who was unwilling to let Veidt get away with murdering an entire city, and in most interpretations of morality, his is an understandable stance. None of the other 'heroes' do anything other than meekly accept what has happened and become accomplices to mass murder.

In any other story, he'd be a much harder character to identify with, and -with his extreme methods- would probably be more of a villain if anything, a Batman gone wrong type character, but the other characters around him are so much worse at their core, and in what they are prepared to live with, in spite of coming across as more noble or respectable.

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Kradek
03/22/24 6:03:52 PM
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-Crissaegrim- posted...
By the end of the film, he's the only character who was unwilling to let Veidt get away with murdering an entire city, and in most interpretations of morality, his is an understandable stance. None of the other 'heroes' do anything other than meekly accept what has happened and become accomplices to mass murder.

Agreed, it's not just his "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" line, he was also the only one with convictions strong enough that he wouldn't go along with it and directly told Manhattan to "do it" knowing that he would, and that it was the only way to stop him from leaking everything to the public.

He wasn't meant to be likeable, but he was the most likeable out of all the characters in terms of morality. Like, Manhattan literally ended his "fuck the human race" attitude and solitude because he learned that the love of his life is a rape baby. That's some dumb shit.

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DrizztLink
03/22/24 6:05:59 PM
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I was hoping the OP was gonna be the page where he just eats a cold can of beans.

Like, with a fork.

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