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Zithers
03/11/24 12:57:43 AM
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do you think his movies are getting blanked because he made fun of the marvel movies? or maybe because he restores old and foreign films to try and preserve the past when so many are willing to pretend cinema's history never happened? or do the hollywood elite see themselves in his stories of evil hubristic men who destroy those around them, and dislike that?

the wolf of wall street - 0/5
silence - 0/1 (ridiculous it only had a nod for cinematography)
the irishman - 0/10
killers of the flower moon - 0/10

to this day his only personal oscar win is for directing the departed. also dicaprio and de niro were not nominated for their lead roles in the last two movies for some reason.

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CE_gonna_CE
03/11/24 12:58:13 AM
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Always a bridesmaid, never a bride

How does he sleep at night

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FortuneCookie
03/11/24 12:59:33 AM
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Note to self: Do not speak poorly of Disney and Warner Brothers's most marketable genre of film.

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Zithers
03/11/24 12:59:34 AM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Always a bridesmaid, never a bride

How does he sleep at night

with a poster of the searchers over his bed

very cool

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MarthGoomba
03/11/24 12:59:45 AM
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All of his movies seem like utter shit

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Zithers
03/11/24 1:00:28 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
All of his movies seem like utter shit

going to assume you think all movies seem like utter shit

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Revisited
03/11/24 1:01:02 AM
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Boy did I loathe wolf of Wallstreet. So so much.

Haven't seen Irishman yet, it's been sitting in my backlog for 6 years now. Probably same thing will happen with killers flower moon
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boxoto
03/11/24 1:01:12 AM
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I haven't seen KotFM or Silence, but The Irishman was pretty meh, with goofy, unnecessary de-aging effects.

I'm surprised about Wolf of Wall Street, though.

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TroutPaste
03/11/24 1:03:49 AM
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He probably made fun of them in the 1970s . Cinema is greater than the awards

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SiO4
03/11/24 1:05:57 AM
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Bob Dylan has never had a #1 hit that he performed.
Yet he did receive The Nobel Prize

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Doe
03/11/24 1:06:31 AM
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KotFM got snubbed hard, all those academy voters were like waaaaaah too long so unnecessary and then gave Oppenheimer like 7 awards (not saying they werent deserved too though)

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/11/24 1:19:53 AM
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No wonder he's so pissed off that he says stupid shit like "that movie that beat me doesn't count." Paraphrased, of course.
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Garioshi
03/11/24 1:21:39 AM
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Zithers posted...
do you think his movies are getting blanked because he made fun of the marvel movies? or maybe because he restores old and foreign films to try and preserve the past when so many are willing to pretend cinema's history never happened? or do the hollywood elite see themselves in his stories of evil hubristic men who destroy those around them, and dislike that?
I think it's because the only movie he makes is Goodfellas

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Delirious_Beard
03/11/24 1:23:20 AM
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it really feels like the insanely stupid narrative of "the movie is too long!!!" was just too overpowering

either way every oscars there's snubs that people look back on years later and wonder why anyone gives a shit about these awards and it's really safe to say that this will be an example

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Zithers
03/11/24 1:26:21 AM
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RetuenOfDevsman posted...
No wonder he's so pissed off that he says stupid shit like "that movie that beat me doesn't count." Paraphrased, of course.

huh?

Garioshi posted...
I think it's because the only movie he makes is Goodfellas

killers of the flower moon is a gangster movie but it isn't really exuberant or fun in the way goodfellas is, which makes being a gangster look cool. its much darker and sadder. same with irishman. the final half hour or so for each movie is like a knife twisting in your guts.

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Prestoff
03/11/24 1:28:56 AM
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Killers of the Flower Moon not winning anything at the Oscars hurts just as much as Banshee of Inisherin not winning anything at the Oscars last year. But at the end of the day, it's a silly award show just enjoy it (or hate it) for what it is.

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Nirvanas_Nox
03/11/24 1:53:45 AM
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Majority of his movies are going so pretty damn fair.

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Garioshi
03/11/24 8:08:20 AM
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Zithers posted...
killers of the flower moon is a gangster movie but it isn't really exuberant or fun in the way goodfellas is, which makes being a gangster look cool. its much darker and sadder. same with irishman. the final half hour or so for each movie is like a knife twisting in your guts.
Okay but they're fundamentally all the same movie even if Goodfellas is cocaine-flavored and the others are a bit sadder

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/11/24 8:14:56 AM
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Zithers posted...
huh?

I tried, you know? But thats not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isnt the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.
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bsp77
03/11/24 8:22:27 AM
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Personally, I think his last few movies have generally been very good overall, but haven't been the best at anything in any given year. I think the fact that he has been getting lots of noms for his movies but no wins is accurate.

Delirious_Beard posted...
either way every oscars there's snubs that people look back on years later and wonder why anyone gives a shit about these awards and it's really safe to say that this will be an example
Still very much disagree. I think history will show that the Oscars got it right this year with best picture going to Oppenheimer. And yeah, they have fucked up many times.

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tommybel89
03/11/24 8:33:59 AM
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More a case of making really good movies, but not undeniably great. And he's going up against a field of people who are peaking at the right point (Nolan and Lanthimos especially).

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Were_Wyrm
03/11/24 8:35:08 AM
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Maybe he should git gud

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theAteam
03/11/24 8:52:38 AM
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I felt the third hour of Oppenheimer dragged way more than I felt the third hour of killers.

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Smackems
03/11/24 8:53:27 AM
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None of those are really that great tho

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Zithers
03/11/24 11:02:55 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Okay but they're fundamentally all the same movie even if Goodfellas is cocaine-flavored and the others are a bit sadder

you don't seem like an art enjoyer

RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I tried, you know? But thats not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isnt the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.

i don't see anything about "being beaten" or w/e

bsp77 posted...
Still very much disagree. I think history will show that the Oscars got it right this year with best picture going to Oppenheimer. And yeah, they have f***ed up many times.

you think living is better than ikiru

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bsp77
03/11/24 11:07:59 AM
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Zithers posted...
you think living is better than ikiru
Is that going to be your go to every time? I also am able to separate my personal feelings from objectivity and history. Ikiru is undoubtedly a more important film, and likely even objectively better. My issue is I saw Living first, and it is very solid remake that mostly removes the last 30 minutes of Ikiru. I did not like the last 30 minutes of Ikiru, because it rammed the anti-bureaucracy message so hard that I felt it thought the audience was stupid for not already getting it by that point.

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Zithers
03/11/24 11:10:32 AM
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bsp77 posted...
Is that going to be your go to every time? I also am able to separate my personal feelings from objectivity and history. Ikiru is undoubtedly a more important film, and likely even objectively better. My issue is I saw Living first, and it is very solid remake that mostly removes the last 30 minutes of Ikiru. I did not like the last 30 minutes of Ikiru, because it rammed the anti-bureaucracy message so hard that I felt it thought the audience was stupid for not already getting it by that point.

yes. ikiru rules. and kurosawa is the god of directing unlike [whoever directed living idk probably some oscar bait loser].

do you ever read criticism or any kind of film writing?

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bsp77
03/11/24 11:15:40 AM
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Zithers posted...
yes. ikiru rules. and kurosawa is the god of directing unlike [whoever directed living idk probably some oscar bait loser].
I mean, I agree with the bolded.

Oliver Hermanus was the director of Living. He seems to have made a few well received movies, but I admittedly have not seen them.

do you ever read criticism or any kind of film writing?
Yes. But I have also admitted that I am still learning, especially in regard to the Golden Age of Hollywood and certain international circles.

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Zithers
03/11/24 11:23:00 AM
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bsp77 posted...
Yes. But I have also admitted that I am still learning, especially in regard to the Golden Age of Hollywood and certain international circles.

like what/who

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Archgoat
03/11/24 11:31:06 AM
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I thought Killers of the Flower Moon was really good. It is the only one I have seen that was nominated, so I can't really say anything about what beat it. I think he should have won for Wolf of Wall Street.
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BlueTigerLion
03/11/24 11:47:45 AM
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A lot of people who work on comic book movies probably vote for these awards so that is indeed an interesting take. The only hole in it is it isn't just Scorsese losing it is all the people under him like actors, writers, etc.

So maybe it just the other performances or work were considered better. Just as an example The Irishman lost to Parasite. Some might say Parasite was the better film and a long deserved win for a non-English movie at the Oscars which have been getting snubbed way longer than Scorsese.

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SaikyoStyle
03/11/24 11:51:29 AM
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Maybe he should make a superhero gangster movie.

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03/11/24 12:00:25 PM
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Dabrikishaw15
03/11/24 12:11:36 PM
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Scorsese's Oscar performance is always a mystery to be because he only won Best Director for one of his weaker films (The Departed) and never won anything else he was ever nominated for.even though he seems like the type these Oscar people should adore.

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tommybel89
03/11/24 12:50:25 PM
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It's one of those things where it's hard to judge when it's happening, but hindsight always has some of his movies rising to the cream of the crop.

Goodfellas should have beat Dances With Wolves, but if you were to actually watch the latter, it's easy to understand why it won. The 3 hour epic is a Hollywood staple and a safer pick. The quick paced rise and fall mob movie didn't make the same impression. I think now that we have seen the rise of Tarantino, PT Anderson, etc, we can appreciate what Goodfellas means to modern movies ever since.

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Delirious_Beard
03/11/24 3:36:33 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Okay but they're fundamentally all the same movie even if Goodfellas is cocaine-flavored and the others are a bit sadder

astoundingly stupid post

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tommybel89
03/11/24 3:37:26 PM
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Casino is basically Goodfellas 2, but nothing else is similar. Maybe something like Mean Streets.

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garan
03/11/24 3:38:48 PM
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Maybe because his more recent movies are all long as shit and extra pretentious?
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Zithers
03/11/24 3:40:34 PM
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garan posted...
Maybe because his more recent movies are all long as shit and extra pretentious?

the word "pretentious" has officially lost all meaning

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Hospy
03/11/24 3:46:42 PM
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Awards shows are dumb but maybe they just weren't very good movies.
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