Current Events > NBA player Rudy Gobert implies refs are betting on games

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VeggetaX 03/09/24 1:56:13 PM #1:	https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/news/ill-be-the-bad-guy-rudy-gobert-implies-nba-refs-are-driven-by-sports-betting He says he takes blame for their loss against the Cleveland Cavaliers but he believes sports betting is influencing the game and also the refs "Yeah, of course it's frustrating. Then obviously my reaction, which I think is the truth I truly believe and even if it is the truth, I think it wasn't the time for me to react that way. I should have not done that. Cost my team the game. And obviously, they can't wait to give me a tech. So yeah, that was a bad, that was an immature reaction from me," Gobert admitted afterward. https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1766302480206377285?s=20 --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979278158] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/news/ill-be-the-bad-guy-rudy-gobert-implies-nba-refs-are-driven-by-sports-bettingHe says he takes blame for their loss against the Cleveland Cavaliers but he believes sports betting is influencing the game and also the refs<quote>"Yeah, of course it's frustrating. Then obviously my reaction, which I think is the truth I truly believe and even if it is the truth, I think it wasn't the time for me to react that way. I should have not done that. Cost my team the game. And obviously, they can't wait to give me a tech. So yeah, that was a bad, that was an immature reaction from me," Gobert admitted afterward.</quote>https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1766302480206377285?s=20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/09/24 1:58:10 PM #2:	Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:979278169] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TimeForAction 03/09/24 1:59:59 PM #3:	I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons <cite>TimeForAction posted [p:979278194] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 03/09/24 2:00:44 PM #4:	UnfairRepresent posted... Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:979278201] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 03/09/24 2:35:39 PM #5:	UnfairRepresent posted... Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins. His own teammate got fined last month for criticizing officials after a win lol --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:979278669] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins.</quote>His own teammate got fined last month for criticizing officials after a win lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/09/24 3:33:33 PM #6:	TimeForAction posted... I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons He was the dude that spread COVID in the nba --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979279458] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>TimeForAction posted... </cite><quote>I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons</quote>He was the dude that spread COVID in the nba </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 03/09/24 3:44:48 PM #7:	TimeForAction posted... I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons you think this is a dumb reason? its absolutely happening --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:979279613] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>TimeForAction posted... </cite><quote>I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons</quote>you think this is a dumb reason? its absolutely happening </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/09/24 3:47:04 PM #8:	They're not betting on games, but they definitely know shit and anyone thinking they don't is naive. Betting becoming mainstream is new in the US and people are really naive to think noone would think to temper with stuff, especially stuff that's irrelevant to the sport like spread on points difference during regular season games noone cares about. Eventually it evens out as teams benefit from refereeing sometimes. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979279666] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>They're not betting on games, but they definitely know shit and anyone thinking they don't is naive.Betting becoming mainstream is new in the US and people are really naive to think noone would think to temper with stuff, especially stuff that's irrelevant to the sport like spread on points difference during regular season games noone cares about. Eventually it evens out as teams benefit from refereeing sometimes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/09/24 3:53:14 PM #9:	GunmaN1905 posted... They're not betting on games, but they definitely know shit and anyone thinking they don't is naive. Betting becoming mainstream is new in the US and people are really naive to think noone would think to temper with stuff, especially stuff that's irrelevant to the sport like spread on points difference during regular season games noone cares about. Eventually it evens out as teams benefit from refereeing sometimes. It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it out But they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know --- Some guys have all the luck, Some guys have all the pain Some guys get all the breaks, Some guys do nothing but complain <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:979279762] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>GunmaN1905 posted... </cite><quote>They're not betting on games, but they definitely know shit and anyone thinking they don't is naive.Betting becoming mainstream is new in the US and people are really naive to think noone would think to temper with stuff, especially stuff that's irrelevant to the sport like spread on points difference during regular season games noone cares about. Eventually it evens out as teams benefit from refereeing sometimes.</quote>It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it outBut they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GunmaN1905 03/09/24 3:55:20 PM #10:	Damn_Underscore posted... It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it out Refs and everyone following sports closely definitely know about everything. But they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy And yet nothing happened. Refs in the NBA are their own union and noone can do shit to them. I'm not talking about betting, but in general. Much like players, some refs are better and more talented than others, while some are just incompetent and their mistakes are a product of them not being good enough. Unlike most other sports, the league has no power to remove those refs and we have to watch them make it all about themselves game in and game out. <cite>GunmaN1905 posted [p:979279796] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite><quote>It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it out</quote>Refs and everyone following sports closely definitely know about everything.<quote>But they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know</quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_DonaghyAnd yet nothing happened.Refs in the NBA are their own union and noone can do shit to them. I'm not talking about betting, but in general.Much like players, some refs are better and more talented than others, while some are just incompetent and their mistakes are a product of them not being good enough.Unlike most other sports, the league has no power to remove those refs and we have to watch them make it all about themselves game in and game out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 03/09/24 4:00:08 PM #11:	UnfairRepresent posted... Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins. If they acknowledge it, then they are admitting their win was not 100% legitimate. --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:979279861] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>Notice no one ever claims the refs are biased when their team/guy wins.</quote>If they acknowledge it, then they are admitting their win was not 100% legitimate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hyperpowder 03/09/24 4:00:46 PM #12:	I wouldnt put it past NBA refs betting on game. I really hope the NBA is smart enough to audit their refs to make sure things are legit. --- Whoever beats my score I will give them a $10 PSN or Live card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpiorAx40GY <cite>hyperpowder posted [p:979279867] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>I wouldnt put it past NBA refs betting on game. I really hope the NBA is smart enough to audit their refs to make sure things are legit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 03/09/24 4:16:52 PM #13:	GunmaN1905 posted... Refs and everyone following sports closely definitely know about everything. I do follow sports closely. I told you I don't care about sports betting. --- Some guys have all the luck, Some guys have all the pain Some guys get all the breaks, Some guys do nothing but complain <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:979280091] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>GunmaN1905 posted... </cite><quote>Refs and everyone following sports closely definitely know about everything.</quote>I do follow sports closely. I told you I don't care about sports betting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 03/09/24 4:48:00 PM #14:	GunmaN1905 posted... Unlike most other sports, the league has no power to remove those refs and we have to watch them make it all about themselves game in and game out. Baseball has the same problem with their umpires. It's why Angel Hernandez is still around, being the worst fucking umpire you've ever seen, blowing calls left and right while power-tripping and ejecting anyone who argues with him. MLB even started doing league-wide umpire evaluations to objectively quantify just how shit at his job Angel Hernandez is, and they still can't fire him. I wouldn't be surprised if some MLB umpires also have money on games like I'm sure some NBA refs do. But at the same time, I think more games and point spreads are swung in baseball by sheer incompetence rather than active fixing, because there are a lot of genuinely terrible umpires still in the league. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:979280524] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>GunmaN1905 posted...</cite><quote>Unlike most other sports, the league has no power to remove those refs and we have to watch them make it all about themselves game in and game out.</quote>Baseball has the same problem with their umpires. It's why Angel Hernandez is still around, being the worst fucking umpire you've ever seen, blowing calls left and right while power-tripping and ejecting anyone who argues with him. MLB even started doing league-wide umpire evaluations to objectively quantify just how shit at his job Angel Hernandez is, and they still can't fire him.I wouldn't be surprised if some MLB umpires also have money on games like I'm sure some NBA refs do. But at the same time, I think more games and point spreads are swung in baseball by sheer incompetence rather than active fixing, because there are a lot of genuinely terrible umpires still in the league. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metralo 03/10/24 3:43:10 AM #15:	Damn_Underscore posted... It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it out But they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know Scott Foster, who reffed this game, literally is known for ref jobs like this. There's a reason Gobert taunted him that way, even though it was dumb as shit. --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good <cite>metralo posted [p:979288704] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite><quote>It is possible they dont know this stuff. For example I personally dont care about sports betting and there are a lot of terms and methodology I dont even understand, let alone the actual numbers. Maybe the refs are also thinking if I look too closely at this stuff Im going to lose my job and block it outBut they should be investigated, no reason not to. Some refs absolutely could be gambling and thats the only way to know</quote>Scott Foster, who reffed this game, literally is known for ref jobs like this. There's a reason Gobert taunted him that way, even though it was dumb as shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 03/10/24 4:00:23 AM #16:	Wouldn't surprise me if there's a lot of refs who bet on games and influence the outcome. Same for the NFL. --- Michigan Wolverines 30 to Ohio state 24: 11/25/23 Michigan Wolverines Football:15-0 ,Rose Bowl Champions&National Champions <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:979288852] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Wouldn't surprise me if there's a lot of refs who bet on games and influence the outcome.Same for the NFL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
B18Champ 03/10/24 4:19:38 AM #17:	TimeForAction posted... I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons I will always associate Rudy Goebert with biological weapon --- Freedom, "that terrible word inscribed upon the chariot of the storm," <cite>B18Champ posted [p:979288972] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>TimeForAction posted... </cite><quote>I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons</quote>I will always associate Rudy Goebert with biological weapon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/11/24 1:33:52 PM #18:	He just got hit with a 100K fine https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/sport/rudy-gobert-100k-fine-money-gesture-spt-intl/index.html In an official release on Sunday, the NBA stated that the Timberwolves center had been fined for directing an inappropriate and unprofessional gesture toward a game official, and publicly criticizing the officiating. The fine takes into account Goberts past instances of conduct detrimental to the NBA with regard to publicly criticizing the officiating, the statement added. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/db35fb80.jpg --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979311065] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>He just got hit with a 100K finehttps://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/sport/rudy-gobert-100k-fine-money-gesture-spt-intl/index.html<quote>In an official release on Sunday, the NBA stated that the Timberwolves center had been fined for directing an inappropriate and unprofessional gesture toward a game official, and publicly criticizing the officiating.The fine takes into account Goberts past instances of conduct detrimental to the NBA with regard to publicly criticizing the officiating, the statement added.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/db35fb80.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VRX3000 03/11/24 1:37:16 PM #19:	This happens in soccer all the time. Every few years FIFA winds up firing like a dozen refs --- ~ my improv troupe ~ www.forgetfulsquirrels.com <cite>VRX3000 posted [p:979311123] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>This happens in soccer all the time. Every few years FIFA winds up firing like a dozen refs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/11/24 1:38:39 PM #20:	The problem with Scott Foster is the dude refs almost purely on emotions and act like his position is some form of highest power. I imagine the main reason why the NBA won't fire him is because there's a ref union protecting him. NBA cares more about money than anything and Scott Foster loses them money so if I were them I'd want him out. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979311134] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>The problem with Scott Foster is the dude refs almost purely on emotions and act like his position is some form of highest power. I imagine the main reason why the NBA won't fire him is because there's a ref union protecting him. NBA cares more about money than anything and Scott Foster loses them money so if I were them I'd want him out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/11/24 1:38:45 PM #21:	Refs being biased is common knowledge --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979311135] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Refs being biased is common knowledge </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 03/11/24 3:58:47 PM #22:	We need to investigate refs to find all those that are guilty of illegal betting like Tim Donaghy in 2007. --- Politicians are the weeds of the galaxy. <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:979313777] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>We need to investigate refs to find all those that are guilty of illegal betting like Tim Donaghy in 2007. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/11/24 4:04:56 PM #23:	NBA refs are consistently suspect for sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lewis_(basketball) This NBA ref made a Twitter burner to defend NBA refs and getting investigated for it and then he retired right after. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979313878] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>NBA refs are consistently suspect for sure.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lewis_(basketball)This NBA ref made a Twitter burner to defend NBA refs and getting investigated for it and then he retired right after. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Babidi123 03/11/24 4:05:15 PM #24:	TimeForAction posted... I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons With how popular sports betting has become, itd be crazy to think there wasnt a possibility all major sports league have some sort of influence on their games. <cite>Babidi123 posted [p:979313884] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>TimeForAction posted... </cite><quote>I always see his name pop up for the dumbest reasons</quote>With how popular sports betting has become, itd be crazy to think there wasnt a possibility all major sports league have some sort of influence on their games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 03/11/24 4:06:29 PM #25:	There was and still is no motherfucking way Tim Donaghy could've been the ONLY NBA official to ever bet on games. Dude was simply the fall guy. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:979313910] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>There was and still is no motherfucking way Tim Donaghy could've been the ONLY NBA official to ever bet on games.Dude was simply the fall guy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeggetaX 03/11/24 4:22:10 PM #26:	As been posted, the refs have their own very protected unions. The NBA would need concrete evidence of a ref rigging games for them to fire one of them like they did with Donaghy. What's funny is Silver has stated that refs doing bad officiating jobs do in fact gets punished but they just don't publicize it like they do with NBA players if they do something bad. Refs would literally lose out on officiating playoff games if they suck which means they would lose potential income I imagine, but that hasn't deterred them much from making ass calls. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065970-adam-silver-says-nba-doesnt-publicize-punishment-for-referees-for-missed-calls "We don't publicize discipline for officials. We don't think that will be appropriate. But their assignments are affected by the quality of their calls, whether or not they progress into the playoffs and then round by round is impacted by the accuracy of their calls and their demeanor on the floor. So there is a system for overseeing and making those judgements about officials. But more to your earlier point about getting the calls right, that's again not a new issue." --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>VeggetaX posted [p:979314169] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>As been posted, the refs have their own very protected unions. The NBA would need concrete evidence of a ref rigging games for them to fire one of them like they did with Donaghy.What's funny is Silver has stated that refs doing bad officiating jobs do in fact gets punished but they just don't publicize it like they do with NBA players if they do something bad. Refs would literally lose out on officiating playoff games if they suck which means they would lose potential income I imagine, but that hasn't deterred them much from making ass calls.https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10065970-adam-silver-says-nba-doesnt-publicize-punishment-for-referees-for-missed-calls<quote>"We don't publicize discipline for officials. We don't think that will be appropriate. But their assignments are affected by the quality of their calls, whether or not they progress into the playoffs and then round by round is impacted by the accuracy of their calls and their demeanor on the floor. So there is a system for overseeing and making those judgements about officials. But more to your earlier point about getting the calls right, that's again not a new issue."</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingPlague 03/11/24 4:31:13 PM #27:	hyperpowder posted... I wouldnt put it past NBA refs betting on game. I really hope the NBA is smart enough to audit their refs to make sure things are legit. NBA refs in the past have been caught betting on games. there was/still is a whole racket going on for this type of stuff. to say refs arent bias towards star players that have juice outside of the game is blasphemy. cough lebron. --- I may look calm, but in my head, I've just killed you three times. <cite>WalkingPlague posted [p:979314315] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>hyperpowder posted... </cite><quote>I wouldnt put it past NBA refs betting on game. I really hope the NBA is smart enough to audit their refs to make sure things are legit.</quote>NBA refs in the past have been caught betting on games. there was/still is a whole racket going on for this type of stuff.to say refs arent bias towards star players that have juice outside of the game is blasphemy. cough lebron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 03/11/24 5:00:05 PM #28:	We know refs have bet in the past, we know the NBA & refs covered it up, so I don't blame him or anyone for being frustrated. <cite>garan posted [p:979314836] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>We know refs have bet in the past, we know the NBA & refs covered it up, so I don't blame him or anyone for being frustrated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 03/11/24 5:02:16 PM #29:	Is this a anything like the Angel Hernandez umpire thing, or is that more incompetence compared to actual corruption? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:979314881] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>Is this a anything like the Angel Hernandez umpire thing, or is that more incompetence compared to actual corruption? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 03/11/24 5:03:40 PM #30:	As someone who has been watching the nba for over 30 years, it is pretty obvious that the refs are able to freely manipulate games. The league protects them too. --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade <cite>solosnake posted [p:979314898] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>As someone who has been watching the nba for over 30 years, it is pretty obvious that the refs are able to freely manipulate games. The league protects them too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 03/11/24 5:03:52 PM #31:	DrizztLink posted... Is this a anything like the Angel Hernandez umpire thing, or is that more incompetence compared to actual corruption? Kinda similar in that both unions protect their people, even when they're horribly incompetent at their jobs. <cite>garan posted [p:979314904] in NBA player... [t:80717110]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted...</cite><quote>Is this a anything like the Angel Hernandez umpire thing, or is that more incompetence compared to actual corruption?</quote>Kinda similar in that both unions protect their people, even when they're horribly incompetent at their jobs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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