Current Events > Do you want Tiktok to get banned in the US? >_>

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YellowSUV
03/13/24 12:30:45 PM
#151:


Revelation34 posted...
Won't stand in court. It's a First Amendment violation.

I think it might stand. It just requires that the company that owns it doesn't have connections to the Chinese Communist Party. Its not an outright ban. The First Amendment does not necessarily apply the same to Americans and non-Americans.


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Dyinglegacy
03/13/24 12:32:22 PM
#152:


I think it makes people dumber and reduces attention span. A string of 8 second videos all day cant be good for you mentally.

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Tyranthraxus
03/13/24 12:33:34 PM
#153:


Congress is passing this under the pretext that TikTok is a national security risk. First amendment doesn't apply at all here.

I would be ok in general if what's being done to TikTok applied to every company incorporated in America. We should have something similar to Japan's FEFTA which was itself passed in response to Chinese acquisitions.

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Ratchetrockon
03/13/24 1:39:31 PM
#154:


I don't want it to get banned

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Revelation34
03/13/24 1:42:03 PM
#155:


YellowSUV posted...


I think it might stand. It just requires that the company that owns it doesn't have connections to the Chinese Communist Party. Its not an outright ban. The First Amendment does not necessarily apply the same to Americans and non-Americans.



The app operates in America so American law applies to it.

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Gojira123
03/14/24 1:42:40 AM
#156:


Dyinglegacy posted...
I think it makes people dumber and reduces attention span. A string of 8 second videos all day cant be good for you mentally.

let people do what they want.
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STEROLIZER
03/14/24 1:45:18 AM
#157:


No. It would significantly hurt me financially
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1337toothbrush
03/14/24 1:50:08 AM
#158:


Dyinglegacy posted...
I think it makes people dumber and reduces attention span. A string of 8 second videos all day cant be good for you mentally.
This is a repackaging of "TV rots your brain" (which was also repackaged as "video games rot your brain"). It's funny how people pretend to have learned from the mistakes of past generations and then have the same attitudes, including buying into red scare 2.0 wholeheartedly.

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NhojAnec
03/14/24 2:20:31 AM
#159:


TikTok is one of the worst things ever created.

Also anyone who uses it is just getting spied on by the Chinese government. The reason this is bad is because the Chinese government is getting a bunch of info from US citizens to prepare for a war against the west.

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Gurifisu
03/14/24 2:29:37 AM
#160:


Personally I have never used it. I don't like TikTok. It's peak brainrot imo. Despite that, I'm not one for the "ban thing because me no like" mentality. If others want to poison their own minds fine, they have the right to do so. It's much like how I won't push for a ban on alcohol, tobacco, or other harmful vices.

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Gobstoppers12
03/14/24 3:21:09 AM
#161:


I wouldn't miss it if it were to disappear entirely, but I'm not going to say it should be banned.

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Dark_Arbron
03/14/24 6:59:07 AM
#162:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
I wouldn't miss it if it were to disappear entirely, but I'm not going to say it should be banned.

This. As someone who doesnt use it, or any social media period, it doesnt matter to me one way or another.

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 8:25:34 AM
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My poll is legit tho

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 8:27:24 AM
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Fenriswolf
03/14/24 8:36:06 AM
#169:


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This. The hearing were staffed by a bunch of tech illiterate boomers who don't even know whether Tiktok works over wifi, while demanding the Singapore CEO to denounce the Chinese government as if he's responsible for every one of their wrongdoings.

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pezzicle
03/14/24 8:39:15 AM
#170:


pegusus123456 posted...
I think it's a transparent attempt at scapegoating and if Congress actually cared about the situation, they would simply pass laws that solve the situation for all social media apps instead of specifying this one.


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RetuenOfDevsman
03/14/24 8:51:05 AM
#171:


1337toothbrush posted...
This is a repackaging of "TV rots your brain" (which was also repackaged as "video games rot your brain"). It's funny how people pretend to have learned from the mistakes of past generations and then have the same attitudes, including buying into red scare 2.0 wholeheartedly.
I'm of the opinion that they've always been right.

People who lived centuries ago were way smarter than we are.
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Fenriswolf
03/14/24 8:54:37 AM
#172:


RetuenOfDevsman posted...
I'm of the opinion that they've always been right.

People who lived centuries ago were way smarter than we are.

And people a century ago also believed women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote and LGBT people should be institutionalized.

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/14/24 9:02:37 AM
#173:


Fenriswolf posted...
And people a century ago also believed women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote and LGBT people should be institutionalized.
Oh, we could go round in circles on this one all day. There are so many angles to approach it from. Being wrong about something doesn't make you stupid, modern people thing the Earth is flat, ancient people figured out impressive things with lesser equipment, really I have no desire to pursue this thing when at the end of the day one of us is going to back into a corner and move back and forth like a sore loser in checkers.
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DaxNovalis
03/14/24 9:10:22 AM
#175:


It doesn't matter to me either way, I've never used it and never planned to.
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LeCh0nk
03/14/24 9:35:33 AM
#176:


Good. Do twitter next.

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ImagineUsngAlts
03/14/24 9:37:37 AM
#177:


RetuenOfDevsman posted...
Oh, we could go round in circles on this one all day. There are so many angles to approach it from. Being wrong about something doesn't make you stupid, modern people thing the Earth is flat, ancient people figured out impressive things with lesser equipment, really I have no desire to pursue this thing when at the end of the day one of us is going to back into a corner and move back and forth like a sore loser in checkers.

I mean when you're choosing the dumbest people of today vs the smartest people of the past. Meanwhile people trying to kill each other in duels was seen as a fair and normal way to settle conflicts.

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Hayame_Zero
03/14/24 9:44:11 AM
#178:


ImagineUsngAlts posted...
I mean when you're choosing the dumbest people of today vs the smartest people of the past. Meanwhile people trying to kill each other in duels was seen as a fair and normal way to settle conflicts.
Yeah, the flat earth thing is just an example of a loud minority getting attention. Even a quick study of history on past behaviors would prove society is smarter now.

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Geiki_Ganger
03/14/24 9:47:18 AM
#179:


On one hand, banning TikTok while allowing other social media apps to stand is obviously bad optics.

On the other hand, China already banned Facebook, IG, Twitter, etc. This would merely be an appropriate retaliation from the US.

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Red_XIV
03/14/24 9:48:06 AM
#180:


I'd rather have Twitter banned in the US.

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Coca-Cola
03/14/24 9:51:59 AM
#181:


hockeybabe89 posted...
"I want the government to ban things that annoy me"

Yes. Yes I do.

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 10:03:47 AM
#183:


Red_XIV posted...
I'd rather have Twitter banned in the US.
Hopefully Musk will crash it into the ground soon

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action52
03/14/24 10:19:14 AM
#184:


NhojAnec posted...
TikTok is one of the worst things ever created.

Also anyone who uses it is just getting spied on by the Chinese government. The reason this is bad is because the Chinese government is getting a bunch of info from US citizens to prepare for a war against the west.
I seriously can't tell if this is a joke or not...

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Geiki_Ganger
03/14/24 11:22:53 AM
#185:


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Welcome to 21st century USA.

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 8:58:33 PM
#186:


Balls

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Binkster
03/14/24 9:03:57 PM
#187:


I just don't see how it's legally justifiable to ban it. I don't care if it's actually banned, but it's dangerous precedent imo.

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NhojAnec
03/14/24 9:25:29 PM
#188:


https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/TikTok-Faces-US-Ban-Dut-to-Ongoing-Spying-Concerns/639464/

TikTok Faces US Ban After Discovery that Chinese Officials had Used the App to Spy on US Journalists

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1337toothbrush
03/14/24 9:26:42 PM
#189:


NhojAnec posted...
https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/TikTok-Faces-US-Ban-Dut-to-Ongoing-Spying-Concerns/639464/

TikTok Faces US Ban After Discovery that Chinese Officials had Used the App to Spy on US Journalists
"www.socialmediatoday.com"

"Published Dec. 23, 2022"

Please.

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NhojAnec
03/14/24 11:05:55 PM
#190:


Also, Trump is against the TikTok ban while Biden is for the TikTok ban and Biden said he will absolutely sign the ban. Since I despise Trump I agree with Biden here.

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 11:06:37 PM
#191:


NhojAnec posted...
Also, Trump is against the TikTok ban while Biden is for the TikTok ban and Biden said he will absolutely sign the ban. Since I despise Trump I agree with Biden here.
Wasn't Trump the one who brought up a Tiktok ban in the first place? Politics sure make strange bedfellows >_>

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NhojAnec
03/14/24 11:08:18 PM
#192:


NeonOPPAl posted...
Wasn't Trump the one who brought up a Tiktok ban in the first place? Politics sure make strange bedfellows >_>

Yup, and then he flip flopped and is now against it because he thinks the ban will give Facebook more power in the US or something like that (not cause he cares about tech giants getting bigger, but he doesn't want Facebook to influence elections against him).

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LeCh0nk
03/15/24 1:56:11 AM
#193:


NhojAnec posted...
he doesn't want Facebook to influence elections against him).
Is he dumb? Facebook and Twitter are full of bots and old people influencing the election for him.

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GGuirao13
03/15/24 2:28:53 AM
#194:


bluezero posted...
Don't care either way.


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Fenriswolf
03/15/24 2:38:09 AM
#195:


NhojAnec posted...
Also, Trump is against the TikTok ban while Biden is for the TikTok ban and Biden said he will absolutely sign the ban. Since I despise Trump I agree with Biden here.

LOL as if Biden doesn't have any crap takes, like embracing Bibi Netanyahu despite much of the Democrats being against it.

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Fenriswolf
03/15/24 2:41:13 AM
#196:


NhojAnec posted...
Yup, and then he flip flopped and is now against it because he thinks the ban will give Facebook more power in the US or something like that (not cause he cares about tech giants getting bigger, but he doesn't want Facebook to influence elections against him).

Yet Meta themselves paid a GOP lobbyist to attack Tiktok

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/mar/30/facebook-owner-reportedly-paid-republican-firm-tiktok-real-threat

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Dark_Arbron
03/15/24 6:58:42 AM
#199:


Im content knowing its banned on government devices. Dont really care (or have any involvement in the matter) beyond that.

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Kimberly
03/15/24 7:13:06 AM
#200:


"Banning" tiktok by forcing its sale doesn't solve the whole "cancer to society" sentiment that people are upset about.

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