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wackyteen
03/07/24 9:16:05 PM
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https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/response-to-uvalde-elementary-school-shooting-beset-by-many-failures-investigator-says/3482915/

An investigation Uvalde city leaders ordered into the Robb Elementary School shooting put no blame on local police officers and defended their actions Thursday, despite acknowledging a series of rippling failures during the fumbled response to the 2022 classroom attack that left 19 children and two teachers dead.
Several family members of victims walked out in anger midway though a presentation that portrayed Uvalde Police Department officers of acting swiftly and appropriately, in contrast to scathing and sweeping state and federal past reports that faulted police at every level.
The investigator who presented the report blamed families who rushed to the school that day for compromising the police response, prompting an eruption of anger from several families and some stormed out. Law enforcement took more than an hour to get inside the classroom and kill the gunman, even as children inside the classrooms called 911, begging police to rescue them.
You said they did it in good faith. You call that good faith? They stood there 77 minutes, said Kimberly Mata-Rubio, whose daughter was among those killed in the attack, after the presentation ended.
Another person in the crowd screamed, Cowards!
Jesse Prado, an Austin-based investigator and former police detective who made the report for the Uvalde City Council, described several failures by responding local, state and federal officers at the scene that day: communication problems, poor training for live shooter situations, lack of available equipment and delays on breaching the classroom.
There were problems all day long with communication and lack of it. The officers had no way of knowing what was being planned, what was being said, Prado said. If they would have had a ballistic shield, it would have been enough to get them to the door.
The city's report is just one of several probes into the massacre. Texas lawmakers found in 2022 that nearly 400 local, state and federal officers rushed to the scene but waited more than an hour before confronting the gunman. A Department of Justice report in January criticized the cascading failures of responding law enforcement.
Law enforcement took more than an hour to get inside the classroom and kill the gunman, even as children inside the classrooms called 911, begging police to rescue them.
But Prado said his review showed that officers showed immeasurable strength and level-headed thinking as they faced fire from the shooter and refrained from shooting into a darkened classroom.
They were being shot at from eight feet away from the door, Prado said.
Prado also said the families who rushed to the school hampered efforts to set up a chain of command as they had to conduct control with parents trying to get in the building or pleading with officers to go inside.
At times they were difficult to control, Prado said. They were wanting to break through police barriers.
Family members erupted when Prado briefly left after his presentation.
Bring him back! several of them shouted.
Prado returned and sat and listened when victims families cried and criticized the report, the council and the responding officers.
My daughter was left for dead, Ruben Zamorra said. These police officers signed up to do a job. They didnt do it.
A criminal investigation by Uvalde District Attorney Christina Mitchells office into the law enforcement response in the May 2022 shooting remains open. A grand jury was summoned earlier this year and some law enforcement officials have already been asked to testify.
Tensions remain high between Uvalde city officials and the local prosecutor, while the community of more than 15,000, about 85 miles (140 kilometers) southwest of San Antonio, is plagued with trauma and divided over accountability.
Uvalde City Council member Hector Luevano said he was embarrassed and insulted by the city's report.
These families deserve more. This community deserves more, Luevano said. I dont accept this report.
The city report comes after a nearly 600-page report by the Department of Justice in January found massive failures by law enforcement, including acting with no urgency to establish a command post, assuming the subject was barricaded despite ongoing gunfire, and communicating inaccurate information to grieving families.

What a fucking joke of a city and state.

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Agent_Stroud
03/07/24 9:16:41 PM
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Oh, Hell naw!

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Weezy_Tha_Don
03/07/24 9:17:00 PM
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this will go over well

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ClayGuida
03/07/24 9:17:03 PM
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We investigated ourselves and found nothing.

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Strider102
03/07/24 9:19:34 PM
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Just makes them look even more guilty of what they did but the public will never know.

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theAteam
03/07/24 9:20:30 PM
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Cant misstep if you dont step at all

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Kradek
03/07/24 9:20:34 PM
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The system protects itself.

Fuck these pigs.

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Turducken
03/07/24 9:21:02 PM
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Fuck this world.

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ooger
03/07/24 9:29:53 PM
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Reminder, the supreme court ruled that Cop's are not obligated to protect and serve the public.

https://trafficlawguys.com/police-have-no-obligation-to-protect-citizens


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TheLiarParadox
03/07/24 9:53:11 PM
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Just about anything in the world could happen to any of those cops and I would absolutely not give the slightest shit.

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WingsOfGood
03/07/24 9:54:10 PM
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can even the resident cop defenders defend this?
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CADE_FOSTER
03/07/24 9:54:35 PM
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release the bodycams bet they killed most if not all the children while trying to shoot the shooter
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KaZooo
03/07/24 9:58:42 PM
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One of those parents are probably going to become a vigilante at this point. That must be infuriating.

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Calwings
03/07/24 10:01:59 PM
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Kradek posted...
Fuck these pigs.

Turducken posted...
Fuck this world.

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SaikyoStyle
03/07/24 10:03:02 PM
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https://www.theonion.com/new-footage-shows-uvalde-police-rushing-into-school-to-1849094245

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whitelytning
03/07/24 10:04:45 PM
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I spent some time reading the report and its pretty sad for everyone. Essentially the report said that they followed the policies that were in place. It doesnt solve the problems or give closure and shifts the blame to the policies themselves.

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TheOtherMike
03/07/24 10:06:40 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ffa9fff5.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/668ae5f3.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/668ae5f3.jpg

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jumi
03/07/24 10:32:42 PM
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ACAB.

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wanderingshade
03/07/24 10:33:52 PM
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Where the body cam footage tho

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ironman2009
03/07/24 10:34:08 PM
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i hope those scumbags stub their toes multiple times a day.

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ReiRei89
03/07/24 10:35:41 PM
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Continuing to prove that ACAB is a thing.

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Shadow_Don
03/07/24 10:38:01 PM
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Pretty fucking gross.

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FolkenRawr
03/07/24 10:43:23 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
We investigated ourselves and found nothing.


theAteam posted...
Cant misstep if you dont step at all


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Japanties
03/07/24 10:56:29 PM
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If I was one of those parents, I would seek vigilante justice.
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Thud
03/07/24 11:04:02 PM
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Why do we have uniformed pigs again?

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PballDepot
03/07/24 11:04:55 PM
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theAteam posted...
Cant misstep if you dont step at all


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DrizztLink
03/07/24 11:05:39 PM
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Useless pig-fucking cowards.

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AbsolutelyNoOne
03/07/24 11:09:58 PM
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I don't know what I can say here to truly express my feelings without getting modded

I hope every floor they step on from this point onwards is made of LEGO bricks

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Ya_dun_goofed
03/07/24 11:11:06 PM
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Zero accountability continues.

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Ricemills
03/07/24 11:12:01 PM
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Joke country, joke law enforcement

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Zikten
03/07/24 11:27:27 PM
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cops should not be allowed to ibe investigated in-house. There needs to be a separate agency that only exists to look into these cases, and has no friendly ties to any police department
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Vyrulisse
03/07/24 11:30:38 PM
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Still haven't released body cam footage...

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Zikten
03/07/24 11:39:17 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Still haven't released body cam footage...
And they never will. I bet they already deleted it
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ItsNotA2Mer
03/07/24 11:39:48 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/10d2c4f0.jpg

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Strider102
03/07/24 11:44:34 PM
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Zikten posted...
And they never will. I bet they already deleted it

It was definitely deleted, can't have the truth getting out.

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KnightofShikari
03/07/24 11:45:17 PM
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didn't they do school shooter training a little prior to the incident? what was the point of that if they just stand outside and let the murderer kill a bunch of children?

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Zikten
03/07/24 11:48:10 PM
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Weren't all Police Departments in America supposed to change their policy in 1999 after the Columbine shooting? More than 20 years ago, everyone was supposed to make the new policy to get to thr shooter as fast as possible by any means necessary.
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Vyrulisse
03/07/24 11:49:25 PM
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The investigator who presented the report blamed families who rushed to the school that day for compromising the police response, prompting an eruption of anger from several families and some stormed out.

Oh I hope they burn in hell.

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FortuneCookie
03/07/24 11:49:57 PM
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Accusing them of missteps is implying that they took a step in the first place.


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MistyKnight
03/07/24 11:54:48 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/3de6df7f.jpg

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FunWithAFryPan
03/08/24 12:04:49 AM
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Who are these Uvalde city leaders?

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CADE_FOSTER
03/08/24 12:13:42 AM
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Majority of Uvalde voted republican this is what they wanted tbh Abbott and Paxton were never gonna hold them accountable
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
03/08/24 12:18:34 AM
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TheOtherMike posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ffa9fff5.jpghttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/668ae5f3.jpg

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Rika_Furude
03/08/24 12:21:28 AM
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Failures of the justice system like this are what cause people to take justice into their own hands
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Kingmuscle131
03/08/24 12:21:40 AM
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Nut job with a gun, policy is to stay put till the nut job shoots themselves or comes out side so they can shoot from all directions. special needs person having a seizure issue in their own yard, open fire policy engaged!

The rule book is wrong, and the cops are afraid of anyone who has any means of defense. This timeline sucks.

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Zikten
03/08/24 3:09:57 AM
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The mom who snuck past cops and ran into the school to collect her kid, was braver than all those cops with their guns and body armor
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Guide
03/08/24 3:18:23 AM
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An investigation Uvalde city leaders ordered into the Robb Elementary School shooting put no blame on local police officers and defended their actions Thursday, despite acknowledging a series of rippling failures during the fumbled response to the 2022 classroom attack that left 19 children and two teachers dead.

You can't acknowledge those failures without blaming the cops.

Jesus fucking Christ.

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Kradek
03/08/24 3:22:58 AM
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Zikten posted...
The mom who snuck past cops and ran into the school to collect her kid, was braver than all those cops with their guns and body armor

They should have just given her a gun and said "please do our job for us".

Though they would have likely arrested her afterwards for "stealing an officer's firearm". Bodycam footage of the event? Sure, they'll release that...eventually.

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