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GalaxyKnight
03/02/24 1:17:33 PM
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It seems like an annoying social media thing.

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Scardude
03/02/24 1:18:33 PM
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It's been around since the 1930s and part of the black movement. Any guesses why the conservative movement stole the vocabulary?

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bnui_ransder
03/02/24 1:19:46 PM
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No, it's been around for a while

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ellis123
03/02/24 1:19:55 PM
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No. It has been around for a long time, it was just not vilified like it has become. Leftists/centrists stopped using it in any real metric and then right-wingers started to use it as an insult.

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Alles-Losen
03/02/24 1:29:35 PM
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Woke has twisted its meaning over the years. Right now, someone who is "woke" is seen as someone who likes to virtue signal, has a savior complex and is usually self hating for clout on the internet.

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ClayGuida
03/02/24 1:29:38 PM
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To conservatives, yes.

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Just_a_loser
03/02/24 1:30:03 PM
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The terms change with time but the subject has always been brought up. People don't change.

15 years ago it was ""damn SJWs!!iii!!!" until people ran it into the ground. It'll change again and the cycle will continue.

People don't want justice for the average person.

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Phantom_Nook
03/02/24 1:37:47 PM
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Alles-Losen posted...
Woke has twisted its meaning over the years. Right now, someone who is "woke" is seen as someone who likes to virtue signal, has a savior complex and is usually self hating for clout on the internet.
here's an example of someone who fell for right wing propaganda.

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Euripides
03/02/24 1:38:28 PM
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GalaxyKnight posted...
It seems like an annoying social media thing.

Not as new as this alt account

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Xatrion
03/02/24 1:56:24 PM
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Somewhat. It's just been co-opted by goppers and used to describe anything they don't like.

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Agent_Stroud
03/02/24 2:08:11 PM
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Alles-Losen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e8e876c5.jpg

Also, not a good idea to post that right under a moderator stating that thats grounds for a-paddlin according to the rules.


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AbsolutelyNoOne
03/02/24 2:08:22 PM
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short version:

  • originally used by african-americans in the 1930s, basically to mean being aware of social prejudices
  • later was co-opted in the early 2010s by other marginalized groups like LGBT and women with the same definition, this was relatively uncontroversial
  • later later co-opted around the time of Trump's second election (and really picking up steam after the capital riot) by the GOP and other people on the far-right as a generic snarl word for left-wing ideology, or just anything they don't like. basically if you see someone right wing calling something woke, it is essentially the same thing as them calling something communist, cultural Marxism, or SJW.

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specialkid8
03/02/24 2:20:22 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
here's an example of someone who fell for right wing propaganda.
It meant that a long time before conservatives truly hijacked it. It's literally just a rebranding of SJW. Within the past ten years it really came into the mainstream with people unironically using the original use and a collective "get a load of this guy" from the majority of people. It wasn't until a year or two ago that folks like Tucker Carlson started using it for...whatever.

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Rharyx211
03/02/24 2:24:50 PM
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It's mainly now just used by conservatives to describe something they don't like -- which usually just involves the LGBT community or maybe a superhero movies having a female lead.

Most of the time, these people don't even know how to define "woke," since it's basically lost all meaning by this point beyond being a buzzword. If you see somebody calling something woke, chances are they're actually saying, "I'm upset because there's a Black/gay/trans/etc person in this thing."

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Kradek
03/02/24 3:44:36 PM
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Scardude posted...
It's been around since the 1930s and part of the black movement. Any guesses why the conservative movement stole the vocabulary?

This. Right-wing racists stole the word and used it to ultimately become an all-encompassing "safe to use" bigoted term for any demographic they don't like.

Unfortunately, a lot of people are susceptible to right-wing messaging and adopt their narratives, even when not right-wing or apolitical themselves.

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Iodine
03/02/24 3:58:53 PM
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Scardude posted...
It's been around since the 1930s and part of the black movement. Any guesses why the conservative movement stole the vocabulary?


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ZMythos
03/02/24 4:00:28 PM
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Was not aware of this. Good to know!

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yusiko
03/02/24 4:04:12 PM
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its been around for awhile
being woke is basically being a decent person
being anti woke is being a bigot and against basic decency
so if you ever see anyone the term woke in a sentence as a negative you know they dont have opinions worth more than dog shit

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TMOG
03/02/24 5:42:58 PM
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Alles-Losen posted...
Woke has twisted its meaning over the years. Right now, someone who is "woke" is seen as someone who likes to virtue signal, has a savior complex and is usually self hating for clout on the internet.
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LeoRavus
03/02/24 5:56:56 PM
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I wish people would stop using it as an adjective.

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Will_VIIII
03/02/24 6:00:48 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/53ec6ff0.jpg

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Thud
03/02/24 6:48:31 PM
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No. It's recently been appropriated and perverted by racists to flagrantly display their racism by calling anything they don't like, i.e. minorities women and LGBT, "woke".

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KCJ5062
03/02/24 7:19:27 PM
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If cartoons like the Justice League had premiered in more recent times, people would likely be calling it "woke" for using John Stewart and Hawkgirl instead of Hal Jordan and Aquaman.

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VampireCoyote
03/02/24 7:20:35 PM
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the word was invented in 1993

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Kradek
03/03/24 12:44:51 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
the word was invented in 1993

No it wasn't.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woke-meaning-word-history-b1790787.html

Origin of the word woke

The phrase woke and to stay woke is not new it began appearing in the 1940s and was first used by African Americans to literally mean becoming woken up or sensitised to issues of justice, says linguist and lexicographer Tony Thorne.

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Glob
03/03/24 12:49:05 AM
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Alles-Losen posted...
Woke has twisted its meaning over the years. Right now, someone who is "woke" is seen as someone who likes to virtue signal, has a savior complex and is usually self hating for clout on the internet.

Thats what it meant back around 2007. Its very much moved on from that point.
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BigB0ss13
03/03/24 12:51:57 AM
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I remember black people used the word in the 2010s I think to spread awareness of what's going on and in recent years the right wingers stole that term and used it as something negative towards many subjects
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Maverick_Reznor
03/03/24 1:12:33 AM
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Yes, and it's used ironically

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GalaxyKnight
03/03/24 1:59:17 PM
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Interesting guys. Appreciate it!

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Smackems
03/03/24 1:59:50 PM
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This topic is woke af

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Nok_Su_Kow
03/03/24 2:08:33 PM
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It's part of the southern strategy to appropriate terms and criticism as a means to control their narrative. They've been moving goalposts ever since emancipation.

The latest being DEI which literally is diversity equity and inclusion. Like wtf, we grow up learning things like sharing, the golden rule and appreciating the differences of others. Republicans and the right are a bunch of creepy snowflakes and "Chuds" are an apt description of them.
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