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ButteryMales 02/29/24 10:44:44 PM #51:	emblem-man posted... See my post 36 I was responding to that. If it fails the house which is part of congress he can and has just bypass them again. Did you just want a newer article? https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-02-16/us-plans-to-send-weapons-to-israel-even-as-biden-pushes-for-ceasefire-wsj-reports <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979121859] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted...</cite><quote>See my post 36</quote>I was responding to that. If it fails the house which is part of congress he can and has just bypass them again.Did you just want a newer article?https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-02-16/us-plans-to-send-weapons-to-israel-even-as-biden-pushes-for-ceasefire-wsj-reports</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 02/29/24 10:47:39 PM #52:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'm sure that this gesture accomplishes nothing and, at absolute worst, might add a couple percentage points we can't really spare. but you get to feel good I guess. Dunno how much of a consolation prize that is --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979121900] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'm sure that this gesture accomplishes nothing and, at absolute worst, might add a couple percentage points we can't really spare.but you get to feel good I guess. Dunno how much of a consolation prize that is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 02/29/24 10:51:17 PM #54:	Humble_Novice posted... Because they know the far right will do so much worse to Palestine and them? You're operating under the assumption that American voters are hyper-rational and well-learned on the subject of elections. Unfortunately, they are neither of those things. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:979121947] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Because they know the far right will do so much worse to Palestine and them?</quote>You're operating under the assumption that American voters are hyper-rational and well-learned on the subject of elections. Unfortunately, they are neither of those things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 02/29/24 10:51:28 PM #55:	People aren't passive aggressive because it accomplishes anything. Void is doing it just to feel good about losing. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979121949] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>People aren't passive aggressive because it accomplishes anything. Void is doing it just to feel good about losing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ablegator 02/29/24 10:52:05 PM #56:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I think the most important message we should get out right now as Trump is locking down support from his base is tell voters not to vote for Biden. We absolutely should fuck around and put doubt in the support of Biden into the wider political conversation. Its sure to convince people on the fence to stay away. --- Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid? <cite>ablegator posted [p:979121962] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I think the most important message we should get out right now as Trump is locking down support from his base is tell voters not to vote for Biden. We absolutely should fuck around and put doubt in the support of Biden into the wider political conversation. Its sure to convince people on the fence to stay away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:00:30 PM #58:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I am pointing out that your "minor protest" has no realistic outcome besides making everything worse for everyone. Or nothing at best. But hey, if that makes you feel bad, you're welcome to come up with more effective means. --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122079] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I am pointing out that your "minor protest" has no realistic outcome besides making everything worse for everyone. Or nothing at best.But hey, if that makes you feel bad, you're welcome to come up with more effective means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ablegator 02/29/24 11:03:19 PM #59:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Thats not how messaging works. The message sent is dont vote Biden. This campaign will absolutely have some effect on the general because the average voter doesnt follow all the minutiae. They just see a growing movement to uncommit to Biden and Trump shoring up support. That is the narrative. That absolutely has resonance with average voters. Glad to clear that up for you. --- Why be stupid? Does it make you happy to be stupid? <cite>ablegator posted [p:979122113] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Thats not how messaging works. The message sent is dont vote Biden. This campaign will absolutely have some effect on the general because the average voter doesnt follow all the minutiae. They just see a growing movement to uncommit to Biden and Trump shoring up support. That is the narrative. That absolutely has resonance with average voters. Glad to clear that up for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:07:42 PM #62:	ButteryMales posted... They don't necessarily know that. There's not pandemic going on right now and there wasn't a well known genocide from an ally when Trump was president. The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since. If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different. ablegator posted... Stay home. Pick someone else. But do not support Biden. If theres someone else with a better chance of beating Trump than Biden, theyre an option. If their chance of beating Trump is less than Bidens, they are not an option. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122179] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>They don't necessarily know that. There's not pandemic going on right now and there wasn't a well known genocide from an ally when Trump was president.</quote>The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since.If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different.ablegator posted... </cite><quote>Stay home. Pick someone else. But do not support Biden.</quote>If theres someone else with a better chance of beating Trump than Biden, theyre an option. If their chance of beating Trump is less than Bidens, they are not an option. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 02/29/24 11:08:07 PM #63:	ablegator posted... Thats not how messaging works. The message sent is dont vote Biden. This campaign will absolutely have some effect on the general because the average voter doesnt follow all the minutiae. They just see a growing movement to uncommit to Biden and Trump shoring up support. That is the narrative. That absolutely has resonance with average voters. Glad to clear that up for you. And they'll somehow blame Biden if Trump takes over. They really need to get over themselves and stop cutting off their own noses out of spite. --- Miss the old GameFAQs politics board? Then come here to discuss it with us: https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:979122184] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ablegator posted... </cite><quote>Thats not how messaging works. The message sent is dont vote Biden. This campaign will absolutely have some effect on the general because the average voter doesnt follow all the minutiae. They just see a growing movement to uncommit to Biden and Trump shoring up support. That is the narrative. That absolutely has resonance with average voters. Glad to clear that up for you.</quote>And they'll somehow blame Biden if Trump takes over. They really need to get over themselves and stop cutting off their own noses out of spite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:08:12 PM #64:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] pointing out that you are, at best, awful at your stated objective is not "getting upset". That's an objective view of reality. Do better. The bar is low. --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122186] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> pointing out that you are, at best, awful at your stated objective is not "getting upset". That's an objective view of reality.Do better. The bar is low. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:09:29 PM #65:	Humble_Novice posted... And they'll somehow blame Biden if Trump takes over. They really need to get over themselves and stop cutting off their own noses out of spite. It would be fine (and karmic) if it was just their own noses. Alas, its everyones. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122205] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>And they'll somehow blame Biden if Trump takes over. They really need to get over themselves and stop cutting off their own noses out of spite.</quote>It would be fine (and karmic) if it was just their own noses. Alas, its everyones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:13:45 PM #67:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] with your behavior I'm not convinced you vote at all --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122253] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> with your behavior I'm not convinced you vote at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:14:58 PM #69:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You cant urge people not to vote Biden (i.e. against Trump) and then claim its Bidens fault for not convincing people to vote for him. You dont get to create a problem and then blame someone for not fixing it well enough. Thats explicitly what the Republicans do to the Democrats every time they take office. Youre better than that. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122272] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You cant urge people not to vote Biden (i.e. against Trump) and then claim its Bidens fault for not convincing people to vote for him. You dont get to create a problem and then blame someone for not fixing it well enough.Thats explicitly what the Republicans do to the Democrats every time they take office. Youre better than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:15:33 PM #70:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] shouldn't you have asked this before making yourself look like someone too young to be here? --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122282] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> shouldn't you have asked this before making yourself look like someone too young to be here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:18:56 PM #72:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] "upset" I urge you to reread every post you've made thus far and then reconsider. I know you are incapable, but hey. --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122342] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> "upset"I urge you to reread every post you've made thus far and then reconsider. I know you are incapable, but hey. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:21:39 PM #74:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122390] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 02/29/24 11:21:52 PM #75:	Dark_Arbron posted... The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since. If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different. Apartheid and genocide are two different things. I already feel bad about voting for Biden in 2020. Telling me I was wrong to do so only makes me want to not vote for Biden in 2024 more. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979122393] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted...</cite><quote>The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since.If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different.</quote>Apartheid and genocide are two different things. I already feel bad about voting for Biden in 2020. Telling me I was wrong to do so only makes me want to not vote for Biden in 2024 more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 02/29/24 11:22:12 PM #76:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I am not upset. You appear to have gotten heated over being told your methods are objectively bad, though. --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979122400] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I am not upset. You appear to have gotten heated over being told your methods are objectively bad, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/29/24 11:22:27 PM #77:	Dark_Arbron posted... And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to. That candidate Uncommitted --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:979122404] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to.</quote>That candidate Uncommitted </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:25:07 PM #79:	ButteryMales posted... Apartheid and genocide are two different things. I already feel bad about voting for Biden in 2020. Telling me I was wrong to do so only makes me want to not vote for Biden in 2024 more. Take a look at the death statistics and the shrinking of Palestinian land over the last 75 years. They have been erasing them, not just keeping them segregated. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122454] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>Apartheid and genocide are two different things. I already feel bad about voting for Biden in 2020. Telling me I was wrong to do so only makes me want to not vote for Biden in 2024 more.</quote>Take a look at the death statistics and the shrinking of Palestinian land over the last 75 years. They have been erasing them, not just keeping them segregated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 02/29/24 11:29:21 PM #80:	Dark_Arbron posted... Take a look at the death statistics and the shrinking of Palestinian land over the last 75 years. They have been erasing them, not just keeping them segregated. So I was wrong voting for Obama. What don't you get about how this is not the road you want to go down if you want Biden to win? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979122519] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted...</cite><quote>Take a look at the death statistics and the shrinking of Palestinian land over the last 75 years. They have been erasing them, not just keeping them segregated.</quote>So I was wrong voting for Obama. What don't you get about how this is not the road you want to go down if you want Biden to win?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/29/24 11:34:37 PM #82:	ButteryMales posted... So I was wrong voting for Obama. And we have a winner. Thats my point. People so concerned about Palestinians (youre not) never cared that much before. But now your country is on the verge of turning into a Christian theocracy, you want to switch horses at the last minute? And youre surprised when people assume your real motive is helping Trump win? --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979122626] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>So I was wrong voting for Obama.</quote>And we have a winner.Thats my point. People so concerned about Palestinians (youre not) never cared that much before. But now your country is on the verge of turning into a Christian theocracy, you want to switch horses at the last minute?And youre surprised when people assume your real motive is helping Trump win? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 02/29/24 11:40:07 PM #83:	Dark_Arbron posted... And we have a winner. Thats my point. People so concerned about Palestinians (youre not) never cared that much before. But now your country is on the verge of turning into a Christian theocracy, you want to switch horses at the last minute? And youre surprised when people assume your real motive is helping Trump win? I've been trying to point out to you that you're also helping Trump win by saying it has always been wrong to vote for the lesser evil. Genocide will happen so save yourself a day and some guilt by not voting. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979122686] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted...</cite><quote>And we have a winner.Thats my point. People so concerned about Palestinians (youre not) never cared that much before. But now your country is on the verge of turning into a Christian theocracy, you want to switch horses at the last minute?And youre surprised when people assume your real motive is helping Trump win?</quote>I've been trying to point out to you that you're also helping Trump win by saying it has always been wrong to vote for the lesser evil. Genocide will happen so save yourself a day and some guilt by not voting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 02/29/24 11:42:23 PM #84:	"Nobody dislikes slavery. Slavery has been around for centuries. This is a conspiracy against Jefferson Davis." <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:979122716] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>"Nobody dislikes slavery. Slavery has been around for centuries. This is a conspiracy against Jefferson Davis."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 02/29/24 11:56:29 PM #86:	shockthemonkey posted... Youre saying dumb shit though because youre not trying to make a genuine argument against genocide or in support of uncommitted votes as a protest. I can't help if you don't think my protest against genocide is genuine. I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to do for that to come across. Personally, I agree with the people saying that if Biden doesn't get convinced by the uncommitted campaign then the uncommitted campaign was pointless. The only thing that will have meaning after that is for Biden to lose. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979122877] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite><quote>Youre saying dumb shit though because youre not trying to make a genuine argument against genocide or in support of uncommitted votes as a protest.</quote>I can't help if you don't think my protest against genocide is genuine. I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to do for that to come across.Personally, I agree with the people saying that if Biden doesn't get convinced by the uncommitted campaign then the uncommitted campaign was pointless. The only thing that will have meaning after that is for Biden to lose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RndmNmber1 03/01/24 12:00:09 AM #87:	Maybe we should change the point of view. We assumed that some people are allowing the genocide happened because they support Biden, maybe what's really happening is that they support Biden because they supported the Genocide. That's why any argument about Palestine situation won't change their stance --- FFBE: 396127609 <cite>RndmNmber1 posted [p:979122924] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Maybe we should change the point of view.We assumed that some people are allowing the genocide happened because they support Biden, maybe what's really happening is that they support Biden because they supported the Genocide.That's why any argument about Palestine situation won't change their stance </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 03/01/24 12:01:41 AM #88:	Dark_Arbron posted... And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to. The Uncommitted votes are not for an actual candidate. The point is to engage in a pressure campaign to push Biden on the issue. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:979122946] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>And Im going to repeat that if youre trying to primary someone with a worse chance of beating Trump than Biden, then the bottom line is that youre helping Trump. Biden vs Trump is what this all comes down to.</quote>The Uncommitted votes are not for an actual candidate. The point is to engage in a pressure campaign to push Biden on the issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 03/01/24 12:10:19 AM #89:	Good. They should --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:979123037] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Good. They should </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 03/01/24 12:25:45 AM #92:	shockthemonkey posted... You guys make it easy to tell The only reason no one is calling you a Trump supporter is your post count. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979123225] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite><quote>You guys make it easy to tell</quote>The only reason no one is calling you a Trump supporter is your post count.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/01/24 1:47:05 AM #93:	ButteryMales posted... The only reason no one is calling you a Trump supporter is your post count. Post count and Trump support are unrelated. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979124120] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>The only reason no one is calling you a Trump supporter is your post count.</quote>Post count and Trump support are unrelated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 03/01/24 1:48:48 AM #94:	ButteryMales posted... I've been trying to point out to you that you're also helping Trump win by saying it has always been wrong to vote for the lesser evil. Genocide will happen so save yourself a day and some guilt by not voting. Actually Ive just been saying that people who never cared about it before suddenly caring about it now are hypocrites. --- "How is that a religious topic? That's just me talking about GOD." -Frostmourne <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:979124137] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>I've been trying to point out to you that you're also helping Trump win by saying it has always been wrong to vote for the lesser evil. Genocide will happen so save yourself a day and some guilt by not voting.</quote>Actually Ive just been saying that people who never cared about it before suddenly caring about it now are hypocrites. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 03/01/24 2:18:17 AM #95:	Dark_Arbron posted... Actually Ive just been saying that people who never cared about it before suddenly caring about it now are hypocrites. Even if they are hypocrites, so what if they're hypocrites? People don't mind being hypocrites if they're now doing the right thing. You don't have to keep using poisonous non-stick cookware because learning they're poisonous somehow makes you a hypocrite. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:979124363] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted...</cite><quote>Actually Ive just been saying that people who never cared about it before suddenly caring about it now are hypocrites.</quote>Even if they are hypocrites, so what if they're hypocrites? People don't mind being hypocrites if they're now doing the right thing. You don't have to keep using poisonous non-stick cookware because learning they're poisonous somehow makes you a hypocrite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 03/01/24 4:41:40 AM #96:	Dark_Arbron posted... The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since. If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different. In terms of death and destruction, this Israel/Gaza war far outpaces any major armed conflict in the 21st century. Oxfam calculated 250 deaths per day, compared to: Syria (96.5 deaths per day), Sudan (51.6), Iraq (50.8), Ukraine (43.9) Afghanistan (23.8) and Yemen (15.8). These numbers become much, much worse when you look at civilian deaths - especially children. And now that healthcare and food deliveries have had a near total shutdown, things are looking to get even worse. And comparing it to previous Gaza invasions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/058331a2.jpg This is not just any old war, it's a massacre. If you're really claiming that the past 5 months have been nothing new, you're either not paying attention to the news or you're actively trying to downplay it. sources: https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfam https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68387864 --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:979125257] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>The Palestinian genocide has been going on for seven and a half decades, and the US has supported it ever since.If youve ever voted before, youve already supported it all along. This time will be no different.</quote>In terms of death and destruction, this Israel/Gaza war far outpaces any major armed conflict in the 21st century. Oxfam calculated 250 deaths per day, compared to: Syria (96.5 deaths per day), Sudan (51.6), Iraq (50.8), Ukraine (43.9) Afghanistan (23.8) and Yemen (15.8). These numbers become much, much worse when you look at civilian deaths - especially children. And now that healthcare and food deliveries have had a near total shutdown, things are looking to get even worse.And comparing it to previous Gaza invasions:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/058331a2.jpgThis is not just any old war, it's a massacre. If you're really claiming that the past 5 months have been nothing new, you're either not paying attention to the news or you're actively trying to downplay it.sources:https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/daily-death-rate-gaza-higher-any-other-major-21st-century-conflict-oxfamhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68387864 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 03/01/24 10:54:52 AM #98:	ButteryMales posted... They don't necessarily know that. There's not pandemic going on right now and there wasn't a well known genocide from an ally when Trump was president. Trump literally relocated the embassy to Jerusalem during his term. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:979128982] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite><quote>They don't necessarily know that. There's not pandemic going on right now and there wasn't a well known genocide from an ally when Trump was president.</quote>Trump literally relocated the embassy to Jerusalem during his term. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 03/01/24 10:56:54 AM #99:	ZMythos posted... Trump literally relocated the embassy to Jerusalem during his term. I wonder if any US president will have the balls to move it back to Tel Aviv? --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:979129016] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite><quote>Trump literally relocated the embassy to Jerusalem during his term.</quote>I wonder if any US president will have the balls to move it back to Tel Aviv? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 03/01/24 11:00:31 AM #100:	To be clear, I'm pointing out that Trump has made many public actions and statements that he would support Israel and the Palestinian genocide if elected, even moreso than Biden has. Nobody who wants to massacre to stop would vote for Trump. They could (and many might) abstain from voting, which is demonstrably the wrong move still, but voting Trump would only accelerate Israel's plans. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:979129076] in The Uncomm... [t:80709419]...</cite> <quote>To be clear, I'm pointing out that Trump has made many public actions and statements that he would support Israel and the Palestinian genocide if elected, even moreso than Biden has. Nobody who wants to massacre to stop would vote for Trump. They could (and many might) abstain from voting, which is demonstrably the wrong move still, but voting Trump would only accelerate Israel's plans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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