Current Events > GOP Passes Bill Allowing Ranchers to Legally Murder Trespassing Border Crossers

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pro-life-gop-passes-bill-195312257.html

Pro-life, my ass.

It's consistent when you remember they don't view anyone besides themselves as human beings.

WTF Texas.

Why would they shoot their employees?

And this is why my hope for this country is dwindling.

This is going to kill American citizens too

This is just proposed not passed

Tyranthraxus posted...

This is just proposed not passed

Everyone who proposes stuff like this should be permanently barred from office and subject to a criminal investigation.

DipDipDiver posted...

This is going to kill American citizens too

It will kill mostly American citizens, as the border crossers will be invited to the ranches. I suspect this was proposed because some GOPer's have some bodies to hide.

We need laws to protect the right to walk through someone's "property."

It's fucking land, walking across it isn't a crime.

Ranchers be like:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e0916f7f.jpg

it passed the house vote but hasn't become law yet. article says the governor will probably veto it and I don't think repubs have enough of a majority to overrule

Tyranthraxus posted...

This is just proposed not passed

Read it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/57f7b4c6.jpg

The bill was proposed drawn up and passed. It will be vetoed thanks to having a sane person in the right position.

Where is the problem ?

And they're only the first group the GOP will allow to be murdered. This is just a test run, basically. Next will either be black people or LGBT+ people.

Samus0075 posted...

Where is the problem ?

Pro murder poster.

mystic_belmont posted...

WTF Texas.

AZ. Just as efffed up as Texas though

DipDipDiver posted...

This is going to kill American citizens too

That is the intention, yes.

The Republican Party is literally a terrorist organization.

Samus0075 posted...

Where is the problem ?

If you think people deserve to be shot to death for walking through a field, you're the problem

This just gets trigger fingers more twitchy. Ranchers will be more likely to kill their neighbor or family because the barrier for precaution is no more. Good one gop!

And this is why I don't go anywhere near those "The Purge" movies. Too many scenarios in real life can turn into that slippery slope. I'm already mildly worried for the homeless population.

DipDipDiver posted...

This is going to kill American citizens too

Don't other states already allow this? How is it any different?

So all those "Private Property: Trespassers will be shot" signs are full of crap?

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

So all those "Private Property: Trespassers will be shot" signs are full of crap?

For the most part, yes. Just posting a sign saying you will do something =/= you have the right to do so

specialkid8 posted...

Don't other states already allow this? How is it any different?

Castle doctrine only covers dwelling. This law would hypothetically extend it to land.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Castle doctrine only covers dwelling. This law would hypothetically extend it to land.

Looking at the stand your ground laws here in SC there's a lot of grey area. Seems like this is just solidifying that kind of thing.

That article is trying really hard to make it seem like people just want to be able to murder migrants but, extending your right of protection from just inside your home to all of your property doesn't really seem like that big of a leap. It will of course cause a shitload of headaches over justifiable reaction and probably more deaths but really just seems like basic "muh 2a!" type stuff. On paper it's fine, but that rarely stands up in the real world.

specialkid8 posted...

Looking at the stand your ground laws here in SC there's a lot of grey area. Seems like this is just solidifying that kind of thing.

That article is trying really hard to make it seem like people just want to be able to murder migrants but, extending your right of protection from just inside your home to all of your property doesn't really seem like that big of a leap. It will of course cause a shitload of headaches over justifiable reaction and probably more deaths but really just seems like basic "muh 2a!" type stuff. On paper it's fine, but that rarely stands up in the real world.

Even if the idea of protecting your property within the entire area sounds good, being able to kill someone for just walking on your property is insane if that's what the bill is allowing. It wasn't long ago that we had two shootings because someone accidentally went to the wrong address and crazy gun nuts took it as an opportunity.

specialkid8 posted...

Looking at the stand your ground laws here in SC there's a lot of grey area. Seems like this is just solidifying that kind of thing.

That article is trying really hard to make it seem like people just want to be able to murder migrants but, extending your right of protection from just inside your home to all of your property doesn't really seem like that big of a leap. It will of course cause a shitload of headaches over justifiable reaction and probably more deaths but really just seems like basic "muh 2a!" type stuff. On paper it's fine, but that rarely stands up in the real world.

No. It's about wanting to murder migrants for trespassing.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

This just gets trigger fingers more twitchy. Ranchers will be more likely to kill their neighbor or family because the barrier for precaution is no more. Good one gop!

it's best not to approach any homeowner's property for any reason within the state that passes that law.

specialkid8 posted...

Looking at the stand your ground laws here in SC there's a lot of grey area. Seems like this is just solidifying that kind of thing.

Stand your ground is not the same thing as castle doctrine. Castle doctrine is a relatively uncontroversial law. Extending it to land is a different issue altogether. There's about 2 million acres in America where Ted Turner could theoretically just kill you.

specialkid8 posted...

Looking at the stand your ground laws here in SC there's a lot of grey area. Seems like this is just solidifying that kind of thing.

That article is trying really hard to make it seem like people just want to be able to murder migrants but, extending your right of protection from just inside your home to all of your property doesn't really seem like that big of a leap. It will of course cause a shitload of headaches over justifiable reaction and probably more deaths but really just seems like basic "muh 2a!" type stuff. On paper it's fine, but that rarely stands up in the real world.

You really don't see a difference between a personal dwelling, which houses the person, families, valuables, etc. and open land, which while yes owned, could be miles from the dwelling itself as the same sort of justified "self-defense" that involves killing another?

You're really going to advocate for killing someone for merely being on property, even if that property could be an open acre and causing no harm to threat to anybody?

Kradek posted...

You're really going to advocate for killing someone for merely being on property, even if that property could be an open acre and causing no harm to threat to anybody?

No. Which is why I said it generally makes sense on paper as a logical extention of property protection but that doesn't stand up in real life. This law would get complicated real quick if it was passed.