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WingsOfGood 02/27/24 9:15:20 AM #1: |
Is a $117,175 worth the life of a child? https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2024/02/09/DOL-Finds-Roofing-Company-Violated-Child-Labor-Laws-Following-Teen-Workers-Death.aspx DOL Finds Roofing Company Violated Child Labor Laws Following Teen Workers Death
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1337toothbrush 02/27/24 9:19:17 AM #2: |
The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) has fined Apex Roofing & Restoration LLC $117,175That's it? --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/27/24 9:19:58 AM #3: |
might have taken 5 years to fine them too, not sure. this info comes this month: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20240207 but incident happened in 2019 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 02/27/24 9:20:52 AM #4: |
WingsOfGood posted... Is a $117,175 worth the life of a child? If the business is able to afford it, this is business expense, not a punishment and certainly not a deterrent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 02/27/24 9:21:10 AM #5: |
Conservatives are fine with this. They want this. Hell, they probably think the company getting a pitiful fine is bullshit. "That kid knew the risks" or some other crap like that.
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cjsdowg 02/27/24 9:25:17 AM #6: |
Southernfatman posted...
Conservatives are fine with this. They want this. Hell, they probably think the company getting a pitiful fine is bullshit. "That kid knew the risks" or some other crap like that. Prolife republicans --- If you say I am wrong, then prove that you are right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 02/27/24 9:31:44 AM #7: |
Think of how many cheap underage workers they must hire to pay that.
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Solar_Crimson 02/27/24 9:32:27 AM #8: |
WingsOfGood posted...
The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) has fined Apex Roofing & Restoration LLC $117,175Way, WAY too low of a fine. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 02/27/24 9:35:52 AM #9: |
Conservatives voted for this because they want this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 02/27/24 9:42:18 AM #10: |
The only problem repugs will have with this is "why was it illegal?" followed by:
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ReiRei89 02/27/24 9:51:06 AM #11: |
Southernfatman posted...
Conservatives are fine with this. They want this. Hell, they probably think the company getting a pitiful fine is bullshit. "That kid knew the risks" or some other crap like that.^This. Hell our resident chuds are probably aroused by it. They're all for children dying for the economy. --- FGO US:973,940,202 JP:410,404,215 Resident Europa fangirl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ar0ge 02/27/24 9:59:35 AM #12: |
Yea. That just seems like a slap on the wrist to me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 02/27/24 10:00:17 AM #13: |
Alabama: wtf we love illegals now
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Returning_CEmen 02/27/24 10:12:47 AM #14: |
Im sure that fine is for violating the minor labor law. Thats not a payout for the life of the child. That would be another matter. The roofing company isnt out of the woods with just the fine.
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ScazarMeltex 02/27/24 10:14:41 AM #15: |
This is why fines aren't a punishment. They are simply the price of doing business. Toss every person involved in his hiring in prison
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Japanties 02/27/24 10:21:07 AM #16: |
Fine the company for 2/3 of its total assets. Require it to be lump-sum paid immediately so that it's not finance-able. Award that money to the family of the teenager. Punitive fines need to threaten the continued existence of a business for them to be meaningful. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 02/27/24 10:25:54 AM #17: |
Ar0ge posted...
Yea. That just seems like a slap on the wrist to me.It is. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 03/01/24 7:00:18 AM #19: |
Fines represent the way the ruling class want all laws to work - if you have enough money, its just a business expense.
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Kim_Seong-a 03/01/24 7:12:41 AM #20: |
If you illegally hire a child and that child dies on the job the owner of the business should be in prison and the business itself should be sold off or seized by the government. Fuck em.
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Sry4PartyRockin 03/01/24 7:23:30 AM #21: |
Once again, the fine isn't meant to be the bitch slap. The fine exists mostly to be used in future litigation to say yeah, the company fucked up. The surviving family will get WAY more when they sue, and that's the way it should be so the money actually goes to the grieving family instead of the DOL. But putting a 15 year old on a 50 foot roof on their first day... This is an epic meltdown in judgment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 03/01/24 7:31:30 AM #22: |
Should be manslaughter charges
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Tyranthraxus 03/01/24 8:03:19 AM #24: |
That fine is like the maximum OSHA fine. The family of the kid is going to have to sue under wrongful death of a minor which is going to be pretty expensive in Alabama.
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Jiek_Fafn 03/01/24 8:08:00 AM #25: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
That fine is like the maximum OSHA fine. The family of the kid is going to have to sue under wrongful death of a minor which is going to be pretty expensive in Alabama.This It's the same fine that they would've gotten had the kid been okay and they received a report about it. The death isn't addressed in this part, which hopefully will destroy this company --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 03/01/24 8:17:49 AM #26: |
Sry4PartyRockin posted...
Once again, the fine isn't meant to be the bitch slap. The fine exists mostly to be used in future litigation to say yeah, the company fucked up. The surviving family will get WAY more when they sue, and that's the way it should be so the money actually goes to the grieving family instead of the DOL. Yeah, this will depend on the parents' role in this. They had to know their 15 year old had a job and given consent for him to be there. They could have been friends with the owner who thought he was doing them a solid. --- This is where cool people write stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 03/01/24 8:21:16 AM #27: |
Wasnt the GoP in some states pushing for new laws allowing minors to work in dangerous jobs while also exempting employers from responsibility in case of accidents?
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texanfan27 03/01/24 8:39:42 AM #28: |
Need stricter punishments and anyone on that site who allowed it should be charged with homicide and reckless endangerment. Also figure OSHA went after them, but it still not enough
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Tyranthraxus 03/01/24 8:40:02 AM #29: |
Tanthalas posted...
Wasnt the GoP in some states pushing for new laws allowing minors to work in dangerous jobs while also exempting employers from responsibility in case of accidents? I don't think you can exempt away death. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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orangefire25 03/01/24 8:42:12 AM #30: |
Shut the company down and throw the person that is personally responsible for hiring/staffing in prison
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darkace77450 03/01/24 8:46:14 AM #31: |
Tanthalas posted... Wasnt the GoP in some states pushing for new laws allowing minors to work in dangerous jobs while also exempting employers from responsibility in case of accidents? Iowa was close to doing so, but ultimately stripped that provision from the bill before it passed. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2023/02/06/key-points-of-bill-to-change-iowa-child-labor-law/69870761007/ Republicans amended the bill so that it no longer exempts businesses from civil liability if a student is sickened, injured or killed due to either the student or the company's negligence. The bill allows students who are hurt or injured to claim benefits under the state's workers compensation program, which also allows benefits for parents whose child dies in a work-related accident. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master_Kazuya 03/01/24 8:47:07 AM #32: |
Poor kid. Parents must also be devastated.
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Sir_Will 03/01/24 11:12:51 AM #33: |
Sry4PartyRockin posted...
Once again, the fine isn't meant to be the bitch slap. The fine exists mostly to be used in future litigation to say yeah, the company fucked up. The surviving family will get WAY more when they sue, and that's the way it should be so the money actually goes to the grieving family instead of the DOL.People should go to jail for this shit. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 03/01/24 11:18:59 AM #34: |
WingsOfGood posted... Is a $117,175 worth the life of a child?Capitalists: *Starts plugging away on Excel* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 03/02/24 10:15:27 AM #35: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
That fine is like the maximum OSHA fine. The family of the kid is going to have to sue under wrongful death of a minor which is going to be pretty expensive in Alabama. A lawsuit like that would reward lawyer fees. orangefire25 posted... Shut the company down and throw the person that is personally responsible for hiring/staffing in prison Jail the person telling him to go on the roof too. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snip-N-Snails 03/03/24 10:01:56 PM #36: |
cjsdowg posted...
Prolife republicans hockeybabe89 posted... Alabama: wtf we love illegals now --- #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tropicalwood 03/03/24 10:19:49 PM #37: |
WingsOfGood posted...
the Fair Labor Standards Act's child labor hazardous occupation order, which prohibits the employment of individuals under 18 in high-risk jobs, such as roofing and constructionYet the DOD can still recruit teenagers as soldiers. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao || oaml oaml yya yya ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xatrion 03/03/24 10:24:00 PM #38: |
WingsOfGood posted...
In fiscal year 2023 alone, the Wage and Hour Division uncovered child labor violations in more than 950 investigations, resulting in more than $8 million in penalties. 8 mil? That's all? Should be way higher than that for that many investigations. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metralo 03/03/24 10:25:17 PM #39: |
hockeybabe89 posted...
Alabama: wtf we love illegals now nah they will continue to be happily killing kids because they will still get votes --- https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1298321979/image.jpg bustin makes me feel good ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sir_Will 03/03/24 11:48:46 PM #40: |
Xatrion posted...
8 mil? That's all? Should be way higher than that for that many investigations.Yeah that's pathetic. And why it won't stop. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetuenOfDevsman 03/07/24 8:15:43 AM #42: |
Returning_CEmen posted... Im sure that fine is for violating the minor labor law. Thats not a payout for the life of the child. That would be another matter. The roofing company isnt out of the woods with just the fine.That's what I was thinking. Or rather, hoping. It's kind of absurd to suggest that hiring someone underage is the same thing as killing him. There should be further investigations on the adequacy of the training process and equipment, with fines as appropriate, as well. THEN we can talk about the kid who actually fell to his death. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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