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DrizztLink
02/29/24 8:28:21 PM
#101:


Billyionaire posted...
This is rich coming from you. I'm seemingly the only one here raised to believe in correcting a child's behavior if they're out of control. That was what happened in my generation and every generation before me. We've only started sparing the rod recently and, let me tell you, the results are evident.
Far fewer kids like you?

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Glob
02/29/24 9:55:32 PM
#103:


Billyionaire posted...
Because every man, woman, and child on Earth is subject to the words contained within that book.

Thats a big claim. Im sure you have some sort of convincing evidence to back it up. Ill wait.

This is rich coming from you. I'm seemingly the only one here raised to believe in correcting a child's behavior if they're out of control. That was what happened in my generation and every generation before me. We've only started sparing the rod recently and, let me tell you, the results are evident.

I firmly believe in correcting a childs behaviour. I just believe in more ethical and effective ways of doing it.

For what its worth, I was raised to believe that beating children, and anybody else really, who did something you didnt like was the way forward.
I was just able to grow beyond that mindset.

Im literally a professional in a field where I have to correct childrens behaviour, and a very successful one at that. Youre a bible-toting caveman who thinks hes speaking from a position of authority.
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Heineken14
02/29/24 11:23:10 PM
#104:


Billyionaire posted...


Because every man, woman, and child on Earth is subject to the words contained within that book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDwSsFqSe2k

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Dark_Arbron
02/29/24 11:42:18 PM
#105:


Billyionaire posted...
Because every man, woman, and child on Earth is subject to the words contained within that book.

And you wonder why some people want religion erased. That the world would be a far better place without it.

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Heineken14
02/29/24 11:44:34 PM
#106:


Dark_Arbron posted...
And you wonder why people want religion erased. That the world would be a far better place without it.

I don't want it erased. If it helps some people, be my guest. I DO want those people to fuck off and leave others alone though.

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Dark_Arbron
03/01/24 12:00:01 AM
#107:


Heineken14 posted...
I don't want it erased. If it helps some people, be my guest. I DO want those people to fuck off and leave others alone though.

Edited to clarify only some people. Fair. Overall though criticism of religion is increasing and people like Billyionaire are a perfect example of one of the reasons why.

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Solid_Sonic
03/01/24 12:01:00 PM
#109:


Billyionaire posted...
https://youtu.be/Qf3RFZjQ9v4?si=S8xHrxZ189yEaxpN

Parents must be proud

Knew it was gonna be that video.

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Billyionaire
03/01/24 4:07:27 PM
#110:


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You're arguing in bad faith, making it sound like abuse.

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AgentCoulson
03/01/24 4:14:11 PM
#111:


That was funny.

He needs to be popped and disciplined for it but it was funny.

Edit. I see this thread turned into a shitshow fast.

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divot1338
03/01/24 4:15:49 PM
#112:


Dudebusters posted...
Poor kids probably saw too many Youtube videos of how conservatives act at things like school board meetings, and they've been influenced into this. Sad.
If a kid ever tries to tell me that something is fake news I will strike them.

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Philip027
03/01/24 4:19:14 PM
#113:


There's honestly a lot of teachers I know that could stand to be told this, so without any other context I'm just going to give this kid a thumbs up.
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ai123
03/01/24 4:21:58 PM
#114:


Billyionaire posted...
You're arguing in bad faith, making it sound like abuse.
'Whooping' a child is abuse.

The fact that you think it isn't is problematic.

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voldothegr8
03/01/24 4:21:59 PM
#115:


Billyionaire posted...
You're arguing in bad faith, making it sound like abuse.
Physically striking kids as punishment is absolutely abuse no matter which way you slice it.

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Billyionaire
03/01/24 5:09:23 PM
#116:


ai123 posted...
'Whooping' a child is abuse.

The fact that you think it isn't is problematic.
Spanking a child for no reason is child abuse.

Spanking a child who has just told the teacher to shut the fuck up is not child abuse.

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ai123
03/01/24 5:11:06 PM
#117:


Billyionaire posted...
Spanking a child for no reason is child abuse.

Spanking a child who has just told the teacher to shut the fuck up is not child abuse.
Physically hurting a child is abuse.

The fact that you think you have an excuse to hurt a child doesn't change that.

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boxoto
03/01/24 5:13:48 PM
#118:


it's funny how some people think it's okay for a person to hit a kid for something in which they couldn't imagine doing to an adult for the same reason.

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AgentCoulson
03/01/24 5:13:54 PM
#119:


Just curious. What do you guys do instead of whipping your kids?

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SailorGoon
03/01/24 5:18:53 PM
#120:


boxoto posted...
it's funny how some people think it's okay for a person to hit a kid for something in which they couldn't imagine doing to an adult for the same reason.
Yeah, I'd like to see TC try and hit me for telling him to shut the fuck up.

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Naysaspace
03/01/24 5:21:24 PM
#121:


Find the kid raised in a broken home challenge: tutorial level

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boxoto
03/01/24 5:21:44 PM
#122:


I'm not a parent (I doubt I'll ever be one), but my parents used to deny me some privileges when I acted up, and let me know why so they didn't come off as assholes/what I had done wrong (when I was young enough).

as I got older, they also gave me some responsibilities, so that I was contributing/taking away from the family when I did good or bad things.

edit: at post 119

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KI_Simpson
03/01/24 5:32:19 PM
#123:


Still no response to TC about why hitting a kid for saying shut the fuck up is okay, but hitting another adult who is bigoted against you isn't.

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KCJ5062
03/01/24 5:36:36 PM
#124:


I didn't know about this video back when it happened, but I've been going to other sites that talked about it and some people think it's amusing. It sure as hell won't be amusing if the child grows up to be an unrepentant criminal.

The child clearly got that from somewhere if not from his parents. Possibly from another relative such as an older sibling, aunt or uncle. Maybe even from another kid that got it from their parents.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
03/01/24 5:45:49 PM
#125:


tbf she was extremely loud. Kid was right.

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voldothegr8
03/01/24 6:12:11 PM
#126:


AgentCoulson posted...
Just curious. What do you guys do instead of whipping your kids?
Same thing the law does when adults act up, revoke privileges, fines, community service. Also, and I know this will shock some people, but sit them down and explain why what they did was wrong and to correct their mistakes. You know, instead of just saying "don't do that shit" and beat them with something.

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divot1338
03/01/24 6:20:27 PM
#127:


Make them watch as you destroy their ipad

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Prestoff
03/01/24 6:30:40 PM
#128:


Let me just say I've seen kids who have been raised in a healthy and functional environment with two loving parents...who became shit heads and/or were always shit heads.

Still a pretty funny video lol.

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Billyionaire
03/01/24 7:17:46 PM
#129:


KI_Simpson posted...
Still no response to TC about why hitting a kid for saying shut the fuck up is okay, but hitting another adult who is bigoted against you isn't.
Hitting another adult who isn't physically attacking you is assault. Do you just go around hitting people you disagree with?

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KI_Simpson
03/01/24 7:21:18 PM
#131:


Billyionaire posted...
Hitting another adult who isn't physically attacking you is assault. Do you just go around hitting people you disagree with?
I don't hit children for offending me either. Now explain why you only approve of assaulting children.

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Sandalorn
03/01/24 7:23:14 PM
#132:


Methinks the reason he is so gung-ho to hit the child and not the adult is because the child is defenseless and won't hit back. Your typical coward.
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xGhostchantx
03/01/24 7:23:53 PM
#133:


Glob posted...
No it isnt, you just want it to be.

I understand kids pretty well. Possibly better than anybody else on this board. What we have seen does not suggest, let alone prove, that its the first one.

My favourite kinds of people are the ones who don't have children (or aren't a teacher, or just plain willfully ignores their memory of being a kid) assuming everything untoward they say or do is the parents fault. It's almost like kids are little humans with their own prerogatives.

I was that kid.

Now I have that kid.

What goes around comes around I guess.

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ai123
03/01/24 7:25:45 PM
#134:


Billyionaire posted...
Hitting another adult who isn't physically attacking you is assault. Do you just go around hitting people you disagree with?

But this is exactly what you are advocating when it comes to children.

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Glob
03/01/24 7:33:36 PM
#135:


Billyionaire posted...
Hitting another adult who isn't physically attacking you is assault. Do you just go around hitting people you disagree with?

So is hitting a child.
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LordFarquad1312
03/01/24 7:35:48 PM
#136:


Y'all are being too tough on TC. They got abused by their parents and are probably they'll get their ass whopped if they disagree with what they've been told throughout their life.

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AgentCoulson
03/01/24 7:38:42 PM
#137:


voldothegr8 posted...
revoke privileges

I feel like this wouldn't really fix the problem because they know they'll get them back eventually but just being good for a while.

fines, community service

The fuck?

Also, and I know this will shock some people, but sit them down and explain why what they did was wrong and to correct their mistakes. You know, instead of just saying "don't do that shit" and beat them with something.

Now when you explain to them that what they did was wrong and they just go "shut the fuck up" because they don't really care then what?

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Glob
03/01/24 8:09:44 PM
#138:


AgentCoulson posted...
I feel like this wouldn't really fix the problem because they know they'll get them back eventually but just being good for a while.

The fuck?

Now when you explain to them that what they did was wrong and they just go "shut the fuck up" because they don't really care then what?

Well if youre just going to assume that any and all measures wont have the desired effect, we could do the same for hitting your kids.

The fact is, the approaches that you are denying the effectiveness of do work if theyre done correctly.
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Billyionaire
03/01/24 8:28:43 PM
#139:


KI_Simpson posted...
I don't hit children for offending me either. Now explain why you only approve of assaulting children.

Spanking a child who has acted out is not assault.

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Glob
03/01/24 8:31:07 PM
#140:


Billyionaire posted...
Spanking a child who has acted out is not assault.

In a good chunk of the world, it legally is assault. If its not where you live, that just means that your country needs to update its legislation.
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SailorGoon
03/01/24 8:32:24 PM
#141:


TC shut the fuck up

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SailorGoon
03/01/24 8:32:51 PM
#142:


Disrespectfully of course

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ItsNotA2Mer
03/01/24 8:35:43 PM
#143:


Billyionaire posted...
Spanking a child who has acted out is not assault.

The very definition of assault;
make a physical attack on.


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KI_Simpson
03/01/24 8:38:45 PM
#144:


Billyionaire posted...
Spanking a child who has acted out is not assault.
Then why is hitting an adult who says something hateful assault?

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Billyionaire
03/01/24 8:42:35 PM
#145:


Glob posted...
In a good chunk of the world, it legally is assault. If its not where you live, that just means that your country needs to update its legislation.

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/international-day-end-corporal-punishment-only-14-worlds-children-legally-protected-corporal-punishment

This says only 65 countries have outlawed corporal punishment. So considering there's far more countries that consider it legal, it's disingenuous to act like it's some backwards practice that only regressive countries lagging behind the pack still practice when in actuality so few countries actually have legislation for it.

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Axiom
03/01/24 8:44:44 PM
#146:


lol Tc really trying to turn kids being kids into something serious and argue in favor of abuse
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Billyionaire
03/01/24 8:48:58 PM
#147:


ItsNotA2Mer posted...
The very definition of assault;
make a physical attack on.

Corporal punishment only constitutes child abuse and the legal definition of assault once it becomes excessive, as I understand it.

KI_Simpson posted...
Then why is hitting an adult who says something hateful assault?

Because hitting an adult who has only said something would make you the aggressor. It's not your job to "fix" an adult who has said something hateful; conversely it is within your right as a parent to spank a child if they have acted out as long as it hasn't reached the point of becoming excessive.

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boxoto
03/01/24 8:50:54 PM
#148:


but what if the adult is your kid???

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KI_Simpson
03/01/24 8:50:54 PM
#149:


Billyionaire posted...
Because hitting an adult who has only said something would make you the aggressor. It's not your job to "fix" an adult who has said something hateful; conversely it is within your right as a parent to spank a child if they have acted out as long as it hasn't reached the point of becoming excessive.
Explain why hitting an equal is worse than hitting someone smaller than you who you are supposed to protect.

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Glob
03/01/24 8:53:36 PM
#150:


Billyionaire posted...
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/international-day-end-corporal-punishment-only-14-worlds-children-legally-protected-corporal-punishment

This says only 65 countries have outlawed corporal punishment. So considering there's far more countries that consider it legal, it's disingenuous to act like it's some backwards practice that only regressive countries lagging behind the pack still practice when in actuality so few countries actually have legislation for it.

I never claimed a majority had outlawed it. I said a good chunk, and 65 is a good chunk.

It shits all over your stance that its not assault because it literally is in many countries.

Theres also the fact that even in countries where its legal, its not necessarily a widely used practice.

But given what youve said in this topic so far, I dont expect you to have the sufficient capacity for self-reflection to realise that youre the one in the wrong. After all, you can justify any level of dumbfuckery to yourself if you believe God wills it.
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