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Lord_Shadow
02/19/24 6:46:20 PM
#51:


MangaBroski posted...
Spider-Verse films>MCU
But Sony hasnt had a good live-action Spider-Man film since Spider-Man 2.
It's time for spiderman 4

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pokedude900
02/19/24 6:49:19 PM
#52:


We got Spiderman 4. It was called Spider-Man: No Way Home.

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ForsakenHermit
02/19/24 6:51:52 PM
#53:


The sooner they realize this is a bad idea the sooner they can move on.

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J03can
02/19/24 7:01:00 PM
#54:


Did this topic forget spider verse exists?

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Arcanine2009
02/19/24 7:26:57 PM
#55:


Women led superhero movies can be good. I haven't seen a lot of them that are great, but most are decent.
My favorite is Black Widow by far.. Wonder Woman 1 is #2 for me. Both Captain Marvel Movies are alright (first one much better, latter pretty cheesy).

Most of the actresses are fine in acting ability. I think it's the direction.

I don't mind the girl power stuff, and think it's cool if anything. The most recent ones I wish they made it more subtle (Captain Marvel 2).

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ClayGuida
02/19/24 7:38:07 PM
#56:


They really need to hire better writers. And whomever is the EP on these films needs to be fired for hiring the wrong writers over and over.

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BakonBitz
02/19/24 7:42:05 PM
#57:


UnsteadyOwl posted...
The article just says they were planning a bunch of Madame Web sequels and now that's not going to happen.
Oh, so they were legitimately thinking Madame Web could be a mini-franchise.

Lmfao.

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PraxagoraKassan
02/19/24 7:44:28 PM
#58:


I'm gonna need at least 2 more downs on this

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ClayGuida
02/19/24 7:52:46 PM
#59:


BakonBitz posted...
Oh, so they were legitimately thinking Madame Web could be a mini-franchise.

Lmfao.
No, they thought it could be a team up series with all the Spider-Women actually being Spider-Women.

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specialkid8
02/19/24 8:04:46 PM
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Love that they're blaming it on Superhero fatigue and low female interest in these movies instead of just, when you make garbage movies you get garbage returns.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/19/24 8:05:51 PM
#61:


This movie is so bad that people aren't even meming on it like they did with Morbius.

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ssk9716757
02/19/24 8:18:35 PM
#62:


it's always baffling to me that the principles of good storytelling have been known for thousands of years and yet studios still eschew them in favor of surface-level markers of a "good" movie (though what i've seen of Madame Web doesn't even have those)

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apocalyptic_4
02/19/24 8:21:14 PM
#63:


ssk9716757 posted...
it's always baffling to me that the principles of good storytelling have been known for thousands of years and yet studios still eschew them in favor of surface-level markers of a "good" movie (though what i've seen of Madame Web doesn't even have those)

Agreed it's frustrating to watch this decay in films.

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lilORANG
02/19/24 8:23:00 PM
#64:


refmon posted...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/madame-web-bomb-killed-sony-franchise-1235829471/

Why the fuck aren't you watched female led super hero flicks?
Everyone watched Barbie and the message of that movie was essentially "all women are superheroes"

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Justin2Krelian
02/19/24 8:25:46 PM
#65:


Wow, 3.8 on IMDB, that's Batman & Robin numbers. Is there some political backlash or is it really just that bad?

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Hornswoggled
02/19/24 8:33:35 PM
#66:


They knew nobody was gonna care about this movie. They didn't even bother with any credits scenes.
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BakonBitz
02/19/24 8:34:24 PM
#67:


Justin2Krelian posted...
Wow, 3.8 on IMDB, that's Batman & Robin numbers. Is there some political backlash or is it really just that bad?
It's just bad.

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UnsteadyOwl
02/19/24 8:59:23 PM
#68:


ssk9716757 posted...
it's always baffling to me that the principles of good storytelling have been known for thousands of years and yet studios still eschew them in favor of surface-level markers of a "good" movie (though what i've seen of Madame Web doesn't even have those)
The thing that's always crazy to think about to me is there are so many people involved in making a Hollywood movie and with a movie like this so many of them had to have realized that the thing they were making sucked ass but they had to soldier on anyway. I guess at some point it's just a paycheck.

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rexcrk
02/19/24 9:05:37 PM
#69:




Alright. Its time to pull out the big guns.

Amazing Spider-Man 3 pls

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Charged151
02/19/24 9:32:30 PM
#70:


rexcrk posted...
Alright. Its time to pull out the big guns.

Amazing Spider-Man 3 pls
I thought Sony would have been smart enough to do that already. Guess not...

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Tyranthraxus
02/19/24 9:44:58 PM
#71:


UnsteadyOwl posted...
The thing that's always crazy to think about to me is there are so many people involved in making a Hollywood movie and with a movie like this so many of them had to have realized that the thing they were making sucked ass but they had to soldier on anyway. I guess at some point it's just a paycheck.

Everyone in Hollywood is tripping over themselves for some big break and a few of them have that "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" mentality. That includes writers, directors, and actors. Even if a movie sucks, sometimes individual components can be recognized as excellent. Like I don't think the makeup & hairstyle crew from Ayer's Suicide Squad care that the movie sucked. Everyone has a reason to try and do their best in a movie.

Of course all the best acting, directing, and cinematography in the world can't fix a shitty script.

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lamdakastel
02/19/24 10:04:04 PM
#72:


Cant Sony make Live-Action Miles movie or even Ben Reily movie? Why they didnt just use other Spidermen if they cant use Peter?
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UnholyMudcrab
02/19/24 10:04:39 PM
#73:


lamdakastel posted...
Cant Sony make Live-Action Miles movie or even Ben Reily movie?
I would rather they not.

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Ivynn
02/19/24 10:20:39 PM
#74:


specialkid8 posted...
Love that they're blaming it on Superhero fatigue and low female interest in these movies instead of just, when you make garbage movies you get garbage returns.

No let them blame it on fatigue and believe superhero movies aren't profitable anymore so they will sell the rights back to Disney/Marvel.

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PraxagoraKassan
02/24/24 10:28:03 AM
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Nasty_Nitro
02/24/24 11:12:09 AM
#78:


PraxagoraKassan posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e14e997.jpg

AYOOOOooooOOO


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superbot400
02/24/24 11:59:18 AM
#79:


....They made a movie of Madame ****ing Web. One of the most forgettable Spider-man characters. Even Comic fanboy like myself would laugh at you at the idea of this movie.


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pegusus123456
02/25/24 7:00:32 AM
#80:


action52 posted...


The problem, which most of these executives don't get, is that generally comic book villains are only interesting as villains who create conflict for the heroes. Even Joker, the most successful villain-centric movie we've seen so far, was a mediocre story that only worked because they filled it with great actors and shamelessly copied Martin Scorcese to make the movie look beautiful.
I think you could actually do a comic book villain origin movie without the hero to bounce off of. The issue is that you have to actually make them a villain. I'd argue Joker actually works fine because the movie makes you sympathize and understand his downward spiral, but it's very clear by the end that he's completely lost his mind and become a murderous psychopath.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Like Kraven's entire thing is that he's a hunter looking for bigger and bigger game, but apparently he's an animal conservationist in the upcoming movie and it's just a big fuckin' why?

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creativerealms
02/25/24 7:46:56 AM
#81:


None of Madame Web's problems have to do with it being a female lead film.

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BloodMoon7
02/25/24 8:05:19 AM
#82:


refmon posted...


Why the fuck aren't you watched female led super hero flicks?
I don't watch films and if I did, I wouldn't watch superhero movies.

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UnfairRepresent
02/25/24 8:06:12 AM
#83:


pegusus123456 posted...
but apparently he's an animal conservationist in the upcoming movie and it's just a big fuckin' why?
Guess he doesn't want to run out of game

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ViewtifulGrave
02/25/24 8:58:00 AM
#84:


Euripides posted...
Sony would have made more selling the Spider-Man rights to Disney than they have with all these flops
Would they have?

Far from Home, No way Home, and the Spider-Verse movies together made around 3 billion.

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Alucard188
02/25/24 9:00:00 AM
#85:


refmon posted...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/madame-web-bomb-killed-sony-franchise-1235829471/

Why the fuck aren't you watched female led super hero flicks?

1) I'm tired of all superhero flicks. The last ones I've seen were the two Spiderverse movies and GotG3.
2) Bad movies are bad movies, regardless of the lead. Madame Web is reviewing horribly, and no one's impressed by it.

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Revelation34
02/25/24 9:01:17 AM
#86:


It bombed because of choosing Madame Web. Should have used Black Cat.

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Kaldrenthebold
02/25/24 9:22:00 AM
#87:


Sony saw the Morbius flop then fucking hired the same people for this. They are incompetent at making movies

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Euripides
02/25/24 9:26:37 AM
#88:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Would they have?

Far from Home, No way Home, and the Spider-Verse movies together made around 3 billion.
How much could they have sold it to Disney, though? And what is the net profit when you factor in the bombs that were Morbius, Madame Web, etc.?

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bknight
02/25/24 9:27:27 AM
#89:


Just need live action Venom vs Peter Parker/Miles Morales movie to not suck and they can keep the money train rolling. Should had made Madam Web a tax write off.
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Cuticrusader09
02/25/24 9:47:05 AM
#90:


This gets released to theaters but Coyote vs Acme will never see the light of day. Hollywood is fucked up.
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lilORANG
02/25/24 5:00:50 PM
#91:


When Dakota Johnson hosted SNL, she made fun of a different movie having 43% on RT lol

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RetuenOfDevsman
02/25/24 5:09:24 PM
#92:


refmon posted...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/madame-web-bomb-killed-sony-franchise-1235829471/

Why the fuck aren't you watched female led super hero flicks?
Two reasons:

1. Who the hell is Madame Web?
2. I lost interest in the whole MCU when it decided to do multiverse shit.
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ClayGuida
02/25/24 5:14:56 PM
#93:


Kaldrenthebold posted...
Sony saw the Morbius flop then fucking hired the same people for this. They are incompetent at making movies
That's not how it works.

Sony Pictures hired Matt Sazama and Burk Sharpless in September 2019 to write a script centered around the Marvel character Madame Web.


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Prestoff
02/25/24 5:36:54 PM
#94:


You would think them making a Tobey McGuire Spiderman 4 or Andrew Garfield Spiderman 3 would be a slam dunk, but I bet Sony made some kind of deal with Disney/Marvel to not make any other movie starring Spiderman so long as Tom Hollands Spiderman movies are being made. So yeah Sony is taking a massive L on this failed cinematic universe.

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Kaldrenthebold
02/25/24 6:05:38 PM
#95:


ClayGuida posted...
That's not how it works.

Well, they wrote the script for Morbius in 2017 and I guess were contracted before that flopped to shit. So hopefully no more work is given to them (despite all their junk ass movies BEFORE they even worked on those and still thinking they could produce anything good)

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RetuenOfDevsman
02/25/24 6:32:19 PM
#96:


Prestoff posted...
You would think them making a Tobey McGuire Spiderman 4 or Andrew Garfield Spiderman 3 would be a slam dunk, but I bet Sony made some kind of deal with Disney/Marvel to not make any other movie starring Spiderman so long as Tom Hollands Spiderman movies are being made. So yeah Sony is taking a massive L on this failed cinematic universe.
Toby McGuire Spiderman 4, lol.

He should still deliver pizzas for a living.
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ClayGuida
02/25/24 6:33:10 PM
#97:


The craziest thing is Sony still has two more Spider-Man adjacent films releasing this year.

I hope they're both good, but I have my doubts.

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Ricemills
02/26/24 5:36:36 AM
#98:


Hornezz posted...
Remember when there was a rumor about an Aunt May solo spin-off movie?

Make it happen, Sony!

She's a superhero material
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