Current Events > When are Democrats going to realize not voting for Biden will ensue a Trump win?

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EPR-radar posted...

You sound disappointed by this. Can't think why.

It's because you didn't hear anything besides the voice in your head.

EPR-radar posted...

In any case, since this touches on getting minions to do his will, I'm sure such mistakes would be prevented in a second Trump administration. By now it is completely and excruciatingly clear who in the Republican party longs to eat colon polyps directly out of Trump's ass, and Trump would make his appointments accordingly.

Unless a person can read minds, you can never know who is completely loyal and where their red line is.

ClayGuida posted...

The source is his entire term of criminal activity.

Bill Barr and Mike Pence also went along with his criminal activity until they didn't.

GeraldDarko posted...

Everyone clap for TC and his opinion

It's much better than supporting Trump and/or Republicans, since such support is intrinsically disordered.

Teddytalks posted...

There no benefit for me and mine. At this point, I'm voting for people who just insult me and mine lol. This whole topic just full of sneering people who couldn't careless about my family lol. Why should I care about them.

Does it bother you that with complacency, the very candidate that ran on a full Muslim ban can and will try again?

I implore you to have some empathy. Things can and will get much worse for minorities under a Trump presidency.

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People such as that user like to think that refusing to choose between two negatives, even if one is significantly preferable to the other, means they get to claim their hands are clean.

Theyre wrong, of course, and they need to be reminded of it constantly.

Palestinians deserve to live! Trump will totally... oh

ButteryMales posted...

It's because you didn't hear anything besides the voice in your head.

When people bend over backwards to downplay criticism of Trump, while simultaneously saying they wont vote Biden, theres always a reason.

Dark_Arbron posted...

When people bend over backwards to downplay criticism of Trump, while simultaneously saying they wont vote Biden, theres always a reason.

I'm the one criticizing Trump. It's the people who I'm arguing against that have so much confidence in Trump succeeding to genocide on U.S. soil.

ButteryMales posted...

I'm the one criticizing Trump. It's the people who I'm arguing against that have so much confidence in Trump succeeding to genocide on U.S. soil.

Can't claim you're against Trump, then willingly help him win.

I hate bank robbers, but why shouldn't I help them load the money into their car.

ClayGuida posted...

Can't claim you're against Trump, then willingly help him win.

I hate bank robbers, but why shouldn't I help them load the money into their car.

Do you hate genocide? Should Biden be unconstitutionally giving Israel weapons?

ButteryMales posted...

Do you hate genocide? Should Biden be unconstitutionally giving Israel weapons?

Do you believe that Trump won't allow Israel to do worse? Israel officials have openly said that Biden is handcuffing them and Trump has openly said he'd allow them to do whatever they want.

But believe that Biden is the worst of two evils here.

Your argument is absolute bullshit and you know it.

ButteryMales posted...

Do you hate genocide? Should Biden be unconstitutionally giving Israel weapons?

Source? Or is this just another asspull special?

ClayGuida posted...

Do you believe that Trump won't allow Israel to do worse?

No. Probably worse is not enough for me to vote for Biden instead of not voting.

ButteryMales posted...

No. Probably worse is not enough for me to vote for Biden instead of not voting.

The Palestinians are so thankful for your bravery.

ButteryMales posted...

No. Probably worse is not enough for me to vote for Biden instead of not voting.

You know we cant take you seriously at all if you openly say youre not voting, right?

ButteryMales posted...

No. Probably worse is not enough for me to vote for Biden instead of not voting.

LOL at that. Anyone that knows your track record knows exactly who you are voting for in the general.

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Also, Trump would happily support Bibi if Bibi wanted to make all of the Gaza strip a glass parking lot. Up to and including "can I set off a nuclear bomb there too?"

EPR-radar posted...

Also, Trump would happily support Bibi if Bibi wanted to make all of the Gaza strip a glass parking lot. Up to and including "can I set off a nuclear bomb there too?"

Let's be perfectly fair, he wouldn't ask that.

He'd want his name on the parking lot.

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Maybe our stance on israel needs to change then, hmm?

ClayGuida posted...

Israel officials have openly said that Biden is handcuffing them and Trump has openly said he'd allow them to do whatever they want.

Why should anyone believe Israeli officials when they're committing a genocide?

ClayGuida posted...

But believe that Biden is the worst of two evils here.

I said the opposite. Biden being better is not enough for me to vote for him.

EPR-radar posted...

Source? Or is this just another asspull special?

https://time.com/6551227/biden-administration-bypasses-congress-israel-weapons-sale/

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You know we cant take you seriously at all if you openly say youre not voting, right?

I honestly don't care about your opinion. I'm not voting for Biden unless I see something change, take that seriously or not.

EPR-radar posted...

LOL at that. Anyone that knows your track record knows exactly who you are voting for in the general.

I would love if you could post some of my track record.

DuranOfForcena posted...

every US president in modern times has supported Israel. does it suck? yeah, it does. but it's ridiculous to be coming down on Biden specifically right now when his policy about Israel is the same policy that any US politician in his position would be taking, at a time when his opposition literally wants to end the system of democracy as we have known it for 250 years in order to install himself as an authoritarian dictator.

Was it wrong of me to vote Democrat while holding my nose during apartheid? Maybe, I do feel bad about it.

When apartheid becomes genocide is my red line. Doing a bad thing for a long time doesn't make it a good thing.

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This. It's just another instance of the media manipulating people's emotions. It's not like Biden sent American troops over there fighting.

1337toothbrush posted...

Maybe our stance on israel needs to change then, hmm?'

Perhaps after 2024, but now isn't the top to make a statement and fuck up your own country in the process.

ButteryMales posted...

I really don't care about your opinion either since it's not relevant anymore since you're not voting. You're just an echo chamber poster now.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna18426387

Sharp criticism of Israel
Reagan believed Begin "took wrong option" and noted that "Begin informed us after the fact" but that "we are not turning on Israel that would be an invitation for the Arabs to attack. It's time to raise H--l."
On Feb. 6, 1982, he noted that "trouble brewing in the Middle East" ahead of the Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon and that, "Right now Israel has lost a lot of world sympathy."
He said one particularly devastating bombing and artillery attack on western Beirut in August 1982 had led King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to call the White House "begging me to do something."

"I told him I was calling P.M. Begin immediately. And I did I was angry I told him it had to stop or our entire future relationship was endangered. I used the word holocaust deliberately & said the symbol of war was becoming a picture of a 7-month-old baby with its arms blown off."

There's a difference between the US being an ally of Israel vs tolerating and shielding its crimes to the extent Biden has.

And yes I think you should strategically vote Biden in november

ButteryMales posted...

Was it wrong of me to vote Democrat while holding my nose during apartheid? Maybe, I do feel bad about it.

When apartheid becomes genocide is my red line. Doing a bad thing for a long time doesn't make it a good thing.

Hope your morals are fine if Trump wins and escalates things in Palestine as well as here in America.

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Heineken14 posted...

Hope your morals are fine if Trump wins and escalates things in Palestine as well as here in America.

I mean, there's already a genocide happening right now.

You behave like someone who only became aware of politics within the last twelve months.

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you imply that the funding of genocide is acceptable by encouraging people to vote for the candidate who authorized it

this is why Gaza is going to sink Biden, because for a lot of the electorate... believe it or not, they view their vote as an endorsement of someone's actions and policies and not just a thumb in the dam of fascism

1337toothbrush posted...

I mean, there's already a genocide happening right now.

What even is this argument?
I feel like people are underestimating how much Trump in power would change the dynamic. Israel is still getting some pressure at least, with Trump they would get none.

So you have a war thats going on, and youre probably going to have to let this play out. Youre probably going to have to let it play out because a lot of people are dying, - Donald Trump

It's pretty clear what that means.

colliding posted...

this is why Gaza is going to sink Biden, because for a lot of the electorate... believe it or not, they view their vote as an endorsement of someone's actions and policies and not just a thumb in the dam of fascism

The electorate is not going to care about Gaza by the time the election comes around.

DuranOfForcena posted...

nobody is saying it's a good thing though?

What is the point of mentioning our longstanding alignment with Israel?

What if I amended my phrasing to "Tolerating apartheid for a long time doesn't make genocide acceptable."?

Vyrulisse posted...

What even is this argument?
I feel like people are underestimating how much Trump in power would change the dynamic. Israel is still getting some pressure at least, with Trump they would get none.

I think the argument is, it can't get worse if it's already a genocide.

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they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

colliding posted...

they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

So they're stupid.

colliding posted...

they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

Bigger picture big brain thinking is totally here, guys!

colliding posted...

they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

Shut the fuck up lmao.

I'm voting for Biden. I'm just telling y'all that this isn't just shitposters on gamefaqs who think this. This is a larger block of young democrats (re: idealistic students/youth vote) than you might think. We can call them stupid and ignore them... or maybe we can actually try to do something to reach them besides saying "orange man bad"

If it wasnt this theyd just invent some other reason to divorce themselves from the political process.

colliding posted...

I'm voting for Biden. I'm just telling y'all that this isn't just shitposters on gamefaqs who think this. This is a larger block of young democrats (re: idealistic students/youth vote) than you might think. We can call them stupid and ignore them... or maybe we can actually try to do something to reach them besides saying "orange man bad"

They need to learn that change isnt instant and perfect is the enemy of good. If they cant get it through their heads that having a fucking DICTATOR is bad for their future, then they are a lost cause.

colliding posted...

they will hate him, but they will blame Biden and the Dems for not putting forth a "better" candidate and they will feel vindicated that they didn't vote for a man who signed an executive order to support a country that killed over 27,000 innocent people

Maybe we should change the point of view.

We assumed that people are allowing the genocide happened because they support Biden, maybe what's really happening is that they support Biden because they supported the Genocide.

That's why any argument about Palestine situation won't change their stance.

LightHawKnight posted...

They need to learn that change isnt instant and perfect is the enemy of good. If they cant get it through their heads that having a fucking DICTATOR is bad for their future, then they are a lost cause.

These voters are people that have seen no meaningful change from democrats in their lifetime

DarthAragorn posted...

These voters are people that have seen no meaningful change from democrats in their lifetime

So why the fuck would the answer be to instantly tank the country with Trump? Its harder to create meaningful change when youre constantly playing defense from the party whos actively tearing away rights.

Trump WILL create meaningful change, in that your lgbt, women, and basically any non-white friends are gonna have rights taken from them.

DarthAragorn posted...

These voters are people that have seen no meaningful change from democrats in their lifetime

What have they seen from republicans?

He's not arguing for Republicans, he's just explaining why some people feel that way.

Yes he is. He just doesnt realize it.

Vyrulisse posted...

He's not arguing for Republicans, he's just explaining why some people feel that way.

Im not saying hes making the argument himself, but its a nonsensical thought process. One party doesnt do anything (which isnt true) the other party WILL without fail make things worse on purpose.

The issue young progressives are gonna have is that not even 10% of the shouting towards them was aimed at getting the Dems to vote for someone more preferable in the 2016/2020 primaries.

So it's gonna be a "you don't listen, why should I" thing.