Current Events > Jeff Bezos will move to Florida, cash out billions and then pay less tax than us

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Haejin
02/15/24 10:42:13 AM
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https://twitter.com/RBReich/status/1757868575019126980

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/15/24 10:44:06 AM
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Man, fuck that Kevin Spacey Lex Luthor looking motherfucker

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SaikyoStyle
02/15/24 10:44:55 AM
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But someday Ill be a billionaire too so I dont want them to have to pay taxes.

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emblem-man
02/15/24 10:45:10 AM
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Seems bad

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WingsOfGood
02/15/24 10:49:11 AM
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SaikyoStyle posted...
But someday Ill be a billionaire too so I dont want them to have to pay taxes.

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Dark_Arbron
02/15/24 10:49:57 AM
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I mean, "rich people paying less tax than us" is a perfect case for the 2nd amendment fanatics to rise up, right? Remember when Activision paid 0 tax in a year and yet got a tax return? That's the BIG GUVMENT literally stealing from you.

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DarthAragorn
02/15/24 10:52:22 AM
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The American tax code is a fucking joke


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WingsOfGood
02/15/24 10:53:06 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
The American tax code is a fucking joke

you are being audited for missing a few pennies you poor !
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/15/24 10:54:34 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
I mean, "rich people paying less tax than us" is a perfect case for the 2nd amendment fanatics to rise up, right? Remember when Activision paid 0 tax in a year and yet got a tax return? That's the BIG GUVMENT literally stealing from you.

Nah, it's only BIG GUVMENT when prosecutors try to put a criminal president in jail for crimes he admitted to doing.

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Dark_Arbron
02/15/24 10:55:41 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Nah, it's only BIG GUVMENT when prosecutors try to put a criminal president in jail for crimes he admitted to doing.

Sheesh, shows what I know.

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MC_BatCommander
02/15/24 10:56:55 AM
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Meanwhile I owed a couple thousand dollars because my work didn't take out enough from each paycheck a couple years back. Pretty sad how rigged this system is. Dude has essentially infinite wealth but it's not enough, has to hoard and hoard till there's nothing left

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/15/24 11:11:56 AM
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This is all about state capital gains taxes. Washington decided to implement a 7% tax on capital gains in 2022, so no surprise people who would be subject to that tax decided to move to Florida, which has no state capital gains tax.

He is still paying federal capital gains tax, which is 20%. In 2024, he is selling ~$8.6 billion in shares. Assuming this is all capital gains (which is how this guy calculates the $600 mil), Bezos will still pay $1.72 Billion in federal taxes on this sale alone.

Not really sure you can call moving from a high tax state to a low tax state a "rigged system"

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emblem-man
02/15/24 11:31:38 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
This is all about state capital gains taxes. Washington decided to implement a 7% tax on capital gains in 2022, so no surprise people who would be subject to that tax decided to move to Florida, which has no state capital gains tax.

He is still paying federal capital gains tax, which is 20%. In 2024, he is selling ~$8.6 billion in shares. Assuming this is all capital gains (which is how this guy calculates the $600 mil), Bezos will still pay $1.72 Billion in federal taxes on this sale alone.

Not really sure you can call moving from a high tax state to a low tax state a "rigged system"

Yeah, Florida should implement a State capital gains tax as well.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/15/24 12:00:09 PM
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Repugs approve.

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Yawn_Master2
02/15/24 12:02:59 PM
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How does moving to Miami effect capital gains?

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UnsteadyOwl
02/15/24 12:06:21 PM
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I can't imagine being as rich as Jeff Bezos and deciding that's not good enough and I'm going to move across the country so I can be even richer. It's hard for me to even wrap my head around that mindset.

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Hospy
02/15/24 12:06:32 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
How does moving to Miami effect capital gains?
See post #12

Washington state implemented a capital gains tax on profits over 250k in a year.
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Yawn_Master2
02/15/24 1:39:48 PM
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Hospy posted...
See post #12

Washington state implemented a capital gains tax on profits over 250k in a year.

Thank you. Topic title is misleading?

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EndOfDiscOne
02/15/24 1:42:59 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
Thank you. Topic title is misleading?
Any story about taxes is going to be misleading

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Baha05
02/15/24 1:48:39 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Meanwhile I owed a couple thousand dollars because my work didn't take out enough from each paycheck a couple years back. Pretty sad how rigged this system is. Dude has essentially infinite wealth but it's not enough, has to hoard and hoard till there's nothing left
Yeah that sort of thing is fucked and I have two jobs I do so I am totally owing taxes again this year

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Proto_Spark
02/15/24 1:55:20 PM
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Hospy posted...
See post #12

Washington state implemented a capital gains tax on profits over 250k in a year.

Shouldn't Bezos still need to pay it then? He might not for his 2025 taxes considering he'll have moved, but he spent 2023 in Washington, so he should pay the capital gains tax regardless of where he moves? Heck, even next year, he's probably made over 250k in profits already, meaning he'd still have taxes to pay Washington for the 2 month's he's lived there this year.

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UnsteadyOwl
02/15/24 2:08:11 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Shouldn't Bezos still need to pay it then? He might not for his 2025 taxes considering he'll have moved, but he spent 2023 in Washington, so he should pay the capital gains tax regardless of where he moves? Heck, even next year, he's probably made over 250k in profits already, meaning he'd still have taxes to pay Washington for the 2 month's he's lived there this year.

Or I might just be totally misunderstanding this whole topic.
I'm pretty sure it depends on when he sold the stock in question. You don't pay capital gains tax when you're holding a stock. But when you sell shares the money you got from that sale is taxed.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/15/24 2:11:04 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Shouldn't Bezos still need to pay it then? He might not for his 2025 taxes considering he'll have moved, but he spent 2023 in Washington, so he should pay the capital gains tax regardless of where he moves? Heck, even next year, he's probably made over 250k in profits already, meaning he'd still have taxes to pay Washington for the 2 month's he's lived there this year.

Or I might just be totally misunderstanding this whole topic.

Bezos moved to Miami last year. He hardly sold any stock once the state tax was put in place in 2022 until he moved.

Because Bezos is such a massive owner of Amazon stock, he has to announce well in advance when he plans on selling stocks, and this outrage tweet is just talking about stocks he has announced that he plans on selling in 2024

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TendoDRM
02/15/24 2:15:55 PM
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Personally, I think keeping an extra $600 million is not worth having to live in Florida, but you do you, Bezos.

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pauIie
02/15/24 2:26:29 PM
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he's greedy enough to need to salvage 0.0031% of his net worth. that savings alone being more than 99.9999% of people will ever make.

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SaikyoStyle
02/15/24 3:46:20 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
Personally, I think keeping an extra $600 million is not worth having to live in Florida, but you do you, Bezos.
If youre rich Florida is great.

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Humble_Novice
02/15/24 3:49:03 PM
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Won't Florida eventually disappear once climate change worsens the state's environment to the point of no return?

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trappedunderice
02/15/24 3:53:02 PM
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Time to buy a money printing machine
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Heineken14
02/15/24 3:53:02 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Won't Florida eventually disappear once climate change worsens the state's environment to the point of no return?

I'm pretty sure Bezos will be well off enough to move whenever he wants.

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TwoBit_Samurai
02/15/24 3:55:57 PM
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Damn, and I had to fill out a special form when I filed because I owe $1900

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Ratchetrockon
02/15/24 4:00:31 PM
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Raiden2909
02/15/24 4:02:05 PM
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The dude made more money in a hour then most people will in their entire lives, Hell he made more money in a hour then 4 people will make in a lifetime, Let that sink in and then realize that there are people who think he deserves more money and that this system is just perfectly fine
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/15/24 4:13:45 PM
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Raiden2909 posted...
The dude made more money in a hour then most people will in their entire lives, Hell he made more money in a hour then 4 people will make in a lifetime, Let that sink in and then realize that there are people who think he deserves more money and that this system is just perfectly fine

Amazon is actually down today, $1.18, so over the last 8 hours Bezos lost $1.137 billion

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creativerealms
02/15/24 4:16:01 PM
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Yes, he's following the steps of other rich people, leave blue states and go to states like Texas and Florida to avoid the taxes they should pay.

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SaikyoStyle
02/15/24 4:32:06 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Yes, he's following the steps of other rich people, leave blue states and go to states like Texas and Florida to avoid the taxes they should pay.
Texans and Floridians think this is something to brag about. Just suckers all around.

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apocalyptic_4
02/15/24 4:35:39 PM
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Taxes are for the middle and lower class enjoy.

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Haejin
02/15/24 4:37:27 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
This is all about state capital gains taxes. Washington decided to implement a 7% tax on capital gains in 2022, so no surprise people who would be subject to that tax decided to move to Florida, which has no state capital gains tax.

He is still paying federal capital gains tax, which is 20%. In 2024, he is selling ~$8.6 billion in shares. Assuming this is all capital gains (which is how this guy calculates the $600 mil), Bezos will still pay $1.72 Billion in federal taxes on this sale alone.

Not really sure you can call moving from a high tax state to a low tax state a "rigged system"


So Jeff made all of his money in Seattle the past couple of decades then when he wants to get cruise around with his luxury yacht and new wife he's not going to pay his dues he's just going to move out and pay anything back... awesome argument from you bro

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CyborgSage00x0
02/15/24 4:44:26 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Not really sure you can call moving from a high tax state to a low tax state a "rigged system"
Because it is. This money and gains are ethereal, just 1's and 0's, so geographically relocating shouldn't affect taxes like this.

You can say that's Washington's bad for adding said tax, but the point is this should be something entirely streamlined and controlled at a purely federal level. That, and he's not ACTUALLY moving to Florida, he's just establishing a brick and mortar there he can claim as a house. All the business and capital gains are still occurring from what happens in Washington.

The entire system is design like this, so that those who have money always keep it.

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emblem-man
02/15/24 4:47:59 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
something entirely streamlined and controlled at a purely federal level.
There is a federal capital gains tax that will impact him

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SaikyoStyle
02/15/24 4:48:29 PM
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So much simping for other peoples profits

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Corbenik
02/15/24 4:49:16 PM
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how much does he spend on employees?

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darkace77450
02/15/24 4:51:52 PM
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Corbenik posted...
how much does he spend on employees?

Which employees? The ones working in warehouses who's bathroom breaks are timed or the ones driving delivery trucks who pee in bottles because they're not given bathroom breaks at all?
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ScazarMeltex
02/15/24 4:56:41 PM
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Stupid tax bullshit aside, maybe we shouldn't have billionaires. At all.

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ClayGuida
02/15/24 5:29:59 PM
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This is why you tax wealth.

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DrizztLink
02/15/24 5:32:30 PM
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Other than the ones who put on a collar and get down on all fours as soon as they hear "rich person," you mean.

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SaikyoStyle
02/15/24 5:32:40 PM
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Maybe they wouldnt mind the existence of rich people so much if student lunch debt didnt also exist.

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C_Pain
02/15/24 5:33:19 PM
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Congratulations Jeffrey! You did it!

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runewalshPSiv
02/15/24 5:36:37 PM
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Haejin posted...
So Jeff made all of his money in Seattle the past couple of decades then when he wants to get cruise around with his luxury yacht and new wife he's not going to pay his dues he's just going to move out and pay anything back... awesome argument from you bro


What exactly does he owe seattle?

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Corbenik
02/15/24 5:52:17 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Which employees? The ones working in warehouses whose bathroom breaks are timed or the ones driving delivery trucks who pee in bottles because they're not given bathroom breaks at all?
All of them

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