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TNG pretty handily, and I liked X-Files, too.

DS9 over both by a healthy margin, though.

I'd recommend TNG as the better binge. It gets better as it goes on and while the final season sags a bit it ultimately stops at the right time with an excellent finale.

Why not both?

ooger posted...

Why not both?

Both are like 7 seasons long. Takes awhile

Season 1 TNG is really rough

I love X-Files, but TNG maintains steady quality for the most part after season 1. X-Files is all over the place.

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...

Both are like 7 seasons long. Takes awhile

Is your question which one should be the fist binge, then?

Because, right now, it's an either-or.

DnDer posted...

Is your question which one should be the fist binge, then?

Because, right now, it's an either-or.

Which do I do first, yes.

X-Files gets too caught up in trying to be mysterious and ends up being a giant cluster fuck of nonsense. The best episodes were the ones that were just monster of the week and the more grounded plots like Agent Krychek.

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only the 1st feature film was good. What happened with the 2nd?

I'd say TNG, and season 1 wasn't as bad as people say. Yes, it has some rough episodes like "Code of Honor" and even the pilot "Enounter at Farpoint" kinda sucks. But it also had "Datalore", "Where No One has Gone Before", "Conspiricy", and "Skin of Evil".

Even "Code of Honor" isn't unwatchable, it just plays like an unused Star Trek TOS script with some of the same tropes. To be honest, I might enjoy Code of Honor more than ANY of the Lwaxana Troi episodes.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

X-Files gets too caught up in trying to be mysterious and ends up being a giant cluster fuck of nonsense. The best episodes were the ones that were just monster of the week and the more grounded plots like Agent Krychek.

yeah easily most of the episodes were not good. Possibly right, most of the great ones were monster of the week.

x-files is great, but it falls off in later seasons.

also check out twin peaks if you haven't seen it. It's short, like 3 seasons, so watch that instead of the later x-files seasons

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...

Which do I do first, yes.

X-Files then TNG for a palate cleanser.

And then TNG will bleed you right over into DS9 and VOY.

I did watch a good amount of Voyager.

This is a tough one cause they are both super comfy shows to watch. I'm currently in my first watch through of both. Nearly finished TNG and about 3/4th through X-Files. Gun to my head, I'd pick TNG.

BucketCat posted...

also check out twin peaks if you haven't seen it. It's short, like 3 seasons, so watch that instead of the later x-files seasons

Oh I highly recommend Twin Peaks. It's amazing. Got three seasons and a movie with that one.

Really can't go wrong either way.

kelemvor posted...

To be honest, I might enjoy Code of Honor more than ANY of the Lwaxana Troi episodes.

Nonsense. Half a Life is definitely better than CoH.

On topic: I vote TNG. Much more consistent quality throughout.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Oh I highly recommend Twin Peaks. It's amazing. Got three seasons and a movie with that one.

And more David Duchovny.

TommyVercetti posted...

only the 1st feature film was good. What happened with the 2nd?

It was a monster of the week stretched out to a feature film. It isn't really a monster. I really don't know how it got greenlit

Jeff my recs are what I bought dvd/bluesy sets for

Fringe
Deadwood
Black sails
Community
X-Files
Vampire Diaries( I got those cheap $5 bucks each for the whole series)

TNG. X-files would have been so much better without the overarching plot and just stuck to episodic stuff.

K181 posted...

TNG pretty handily, and I liked X-Files, too.

DS9 over both by a healthy margin, though.

I'd also recommend TNG first, then DS9, to get the proper foundation going.

One thing you're going to notice real quick while binging TNG is that there's a stock set of Enterprise shots that are used throughout the entire run. Each season adds maybe 1-2 shots to the repertoire.

Next Gen is a life changing show.

vycebrand2 posted...

It was a monster of the week stretched out to a feature film. It isn't really a monster. I really don't know how it got greenlit

Jeff my recs are what I bought dvd/bluesy sets for

Fringe
Deadwood
Black sails
Community
X-Files
Vampire Diaries( I got those cheap $5 bucks each for the whole series)

Did you like the tv show smallville? Had worse ratings than both tng and x files and might be even less popular on this board. Idk i thought it was great.

K181 posted...

TNG pretty handily, and I liked X-Files, too.

DS9 over both by a healthy margin, though.

@K181



Rolling on floor laughing my arse off hysterically at that fucking shit response.

To the TC DO NOT whatever you do listen to that fucking piss poor piece of shit response.

Deep Snorefest 9 or Deep Shit 9 is nothing but fucking Targ manure of the first order and a complete plagiarism of Babylon 5!!

Here K181 did you know that Deep Shit 9 was tanking and bombing hard during it's initial run hence why all the changes.

Tell me how many changes did they have to do to the infinately superior TNG? Oh yeah thats right none.

As for the topic at hand watch that far superior TNG. I was never a fan of Dulmer and Lucsly er I mean Mulder and Scully and the whole X-Files thing,

Hated the mytharc of X-Files. Went on too long and felt disjointed. The standalone or MOTW episodes are the best part. Another show with a similar experience was Supernatural.

The only thing I didn't like about TNG were the season finale cliffhanger episodes, when it initially aired. Not a problem now, though.

I loved the X-Files growing up, but it doesn't really hold up.

TNG Just keeps getting better and better.

CassandraCroft posted...

To the TC DO NOT whatever you do listen to that f***ing piss poor piece of s*** response.

You're the one who gets pissy over the better version of She-Ra, aren't you?

Do you not have a terrible take when it comes to media?

MarvAlbert posted...

I loved the X-Files growing up, but it doesn't really hold up.

TNG Just keeps getting better and better.

Er you have forgotten about the utter Targ manure season 7.

By season 7 you can tell they were running out of steam for TNG and clearly had their C-team running it as the A and B teams were trying to get DS9 and Generations into production.

mazingetter posted...

Another show with a similar experience was Supernatural.

I watched X-Files after Supernatural and was like "Wow. Supernatural took it's entire formula from X-Files." lol

DnDer posted...

You're the one who gets pissy over the better version of She-Ra, aren't you?

Do you not have a terrible take when it comes to media?

He gets pissy over any nerdy difference of opinion. You should have seen how he acted when someone did a Start Trek watch through and review set of topics.

The problem with X-files mythos/lore episodes is they just aren't interesting. It reveals everything in a disjointed way, but when you piece everything together, it's kind of generic.

Many of the standalone epsodes outside of those are among some of the best sci-fi episodes made for TV, but again, TNG has more consistent quality throughout.

Start with the best one first aka Star Trek Deep Space Nine. It was Breaking Bad before Breaking bad in terms of amazingness

BigB0ss13 posted...

Start with the best one first aka Star Trek Deep Space Nine. It was Breaking Bad before Breaking bad in terms of amazingness

Are you trying to put him off Star Trek for life?

The only things you need from that plagiarism of Babylon 5 are The Dominion War arc, The Mirror Universe episodes (except for the utter shit The Emperors New Cloak) and Trials And Tribble-Ations.

The rest is just utter garbage especially all that Bajoran shit, the Prophets and Pah-Wraiths garbage and those stupid wormhole aliens crap and nonsense. The Sisko this and the Sisko that oh keep quiet! That got old after the first two times and grabbing someones ear to check their "pagh" or whatever the hell that was!

The crew with the exception of the beautiful Jadzia. Quark and Garak was just utter crap of the first order. Worf and O'Brien do not count as they are superior TNG crewmen.

Oh look isn't it funny how all the best episodes take place onboard The Defiant showing yet again that a Starship is the way to go over some crap Spacestation.

They utterly destroyed Gul Dukat and Kai Winn by turning them into mustache twirling cartoon villains.

Did you know I have never seen anyone here say why they consider DS9 to be "the best Trek"!

DS9 is like an alternate shitty TNG. Full soap opera, zero exploring new worlds / seeking new civilizations. It's the TV series equivalent of making a movie about Pirates of the Caribbean and then the whole thing takes place on land.

Tyranthraxus posted...

DS9 is like an alternate shitty TNG. Full soap opera, zero exploring new worlds / seeking new civilizations. It's the TV series equivalent of making a movie about Pirates of the Caribbean and then the whole thing takes place on land.

That is a fantastic comment.

That is the reason they brought in The Defiant. The franchise is called Star TREK not Star Standingstill and they brought in The Defiant to try and win back fans of Star Trek and Star Trek TNG who had grown up with the idea that ST was about a Captain on a Starship exploring The Galaxy and not being on a Spacestation not going anywhere!


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Oh look who it is. Don't come back to me until you have watched Enterprise.

And oh look you can't give me a reason on why you think DS9 is "the best"!

I have given reasons why I think it is the worst Trek series so it seems only fair on some of you telling me why you think it is "the best"!

Why do you think that?

Tell me did TNG have to change it's original premises? NO!

Tell me Did Voyager have to change it's original premises? NO!

DS9 had to change everything from it's original premises because it was tanking hard in the ratings! The creators freely admit that The Defiant and Worf were brought in to try and win back viewers!

CassandraCroft posted...

Tell me Did Voyager have to change it's original premises? NO!

Yes.

Voyager was intended to be about the two crews having to work together and compromise. The drama between Starfleet and Maquis was originally supposed to be much more prominent, to the point that the Maquis crew weren't originally going to wear Starfleet uniforms, something that was walked back during filming the pilot. We didn't get any real conflict with the Maquis until a mediocre mind control episode in season 7.

There were also supposed to be consequences. The bioneural gel packs. The limited shuttles and torpedoes. All of it forgotten by season 3. Year of Hell was supposed to be a full season arc without time-travel shenanigans resetting the entire timeline.

And let's not forget why they brought on Jeri Ryan. Viewership was tanking and they decided to bring on sexy Borg lady. Fortunately, she became one of the best characters in Trek, but at the expense of the other characters on the show.

So yes. Voyager had to change its original premise, in multiple ways.

X-Files, my hot take is TNG is my least favorite ST.

DS9 is my favorite, and is better than both poll options.

DS9 is the best star trek series its the only one to even try to give the planet of hats some degree of depth

it still falls into the planet of hats writing style but at least the hats are more varied and have some actual culture to them

ablegator posted...

Season 1 TNG is really rough

True but it gets exceptionally better from then on

If you can power through until Season 3, its the best Sci-Fi TV show ever made from S3 onwards

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Again don't come back to me until you have watched Enterprise which rips apart all those in name only streaming series.

Also how the hell can you comment on Enterprise when you haven't watched it. At least I have watched DS9 all the way!

And oh look you still can't give me reasons on why you think DS9 is the best!

Oh and guess what! My favourite all time episode of Trek is Sacrifice Of Angels DS9 Season 6 episode 6.

C-zom posted...

X-Files, my hot take is TNG is my least favorite ST.

DS9 is my favorite, and is better than both poll options.

Oh look yet another one who can't give any reasons on why they think DS9 is the best.

Here is my full response that I gave on Quora on why I do not like DS9:

1. Oh look lets plagiarize and copy Babylon 5 an idea that we the execs at Paramount originally rejected after J. Michael Straczynski proposed it to us in 1991.
2. Lets set it on a Space Station with the characters not going anywhere thus alienating all the fans of TOS and TNG who grew up with the idea that Star Trek was about a Captain on a Starship travelling The Galaxy not being stuck on a Space Station not going anywhere.
3. Quick lets bring in the Defiant to try and win back the fans of TOS and TNG and it worked! Proving yet again a Starship is the way to go over some shit Space Station.
4. Only a Commander can be in charge of a Spacestation! Quick lets make Sisko Captain to again try win over fans of TOS and TNG! Thus changing the original premise of the series.
5. The cast and crew (with the exception of Jadzia, Quark and Garak (OBrien doesnt count as he is a superior TNG crewman)) were so crap and pathetic that the creators freely admit that Worf was brought in to try and win back ratings and viewers.
6. Sisko was so crap as Captain it was unbelieveable. Even the creators could see just how crap he was which is why they tried to change him in to Hawk a character Avery Brooks played in the TV shows Spencer: For Hire and A Man Called Hawk.
7. I agree with one commentator when he said that The Dominion story arc killed Star Trek. It made absolutely fantastic TV but then having to see Janeway and Archer go back to the old ways of trying to talk your way out of a fight just seemed dull and boring in comparison.
8. Another way The Dominion Arc almost killed Star Trek was that Seasons 5, 6 and 7 especially Seasons 6 and 7 suffered terribly because of it. Ill explain. take season 6 after the opening 6 parter only 3 episodes dealt with The Dominion War which meant the rest of the season was filled with utter crap, drivel, fluff and filler episodes. Same for Season 7. It is the only way to explain utter gems and Classics(note extreme sarcasm) in You Are Cordially Invited, Far Beyond The Stars (never watched by me never will), Profit And Lace, The Sound Of Her Voice, Times Orphan, Take Me Out To The Holosuite (Never watched by me and never will) (Oh look we are currently in the middle of a war that we are getting our asses kicked in what shall we do? Oh I know lets invite a Vulcan Captain to a game of that Americanized version of Rounders.), Badda-Bing Badda Bang, Prodigal Daughter (Even the creators apologised for that mess) and Chimera.
9. They destroyed Gul Dukat and Kai Winn by turning them into moustache twirling cartoon villains.
10. I hated the Bajorans and all their Prophets and Pah-Wraiths crap and nonsense. The Sisko this and The Sisko that oh keep quiet. That got boring after the first two episodes. Also why was Sisko emissary when it was both him and Dax that discovered the wormhole.
11. What You Leave Behind was a terrible way to end the series. They build up the amazing Dominion War Arc then rush through it in less than 20 minutes just so they could put a closure to all that Dukat, Winn Pah-Wraiths crap and nonsense and then the creators realized they had to pad it out to 88 miutes so added all that goodbye to the cast crap. So glad Voyager got it right.

Come on folks tell me why you lot think DS9 is the best.

Also as important as that wormhole allegedly was I don't really remember it being used for anything significant.