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refmon
02/06/24 10:06:40 AM
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It should be a law at this point

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R1masher
02/06/24 10:07:22 AM
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Youre not my real dad

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Dakimakura
02/06/24 10:07:42 AM
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If you cant afford to pay your employees a living wage then dont start a business.

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Glob
02/06/24 10:07:44 AM
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Expecting tipping is stupid. At that point, its not a tip, its just that your prices are a lie.
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VampireCoyote
02/06/24 10:07:50 AM
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But it aint, and you cant do a damn thing about it

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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER
02/06/24 10:08:06 AM
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This needed its own other topic....

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EndOfDiscOne
02/06/24 10:10:37 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
If you cant afford to pay your employees a living wage then dont start a business.
This, only rich people should be starting businesses. Stay in your lane, poor people.

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inTaCtfuL
02/06/24 10:11:27 AM
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It's a good thing that I don't go out to eat then.

I can't believe people just accept the tipping culture, everything about it just seems wrong >_>

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-ZIO-
02/06/24 10:13:35 AM
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Surprisingly, I don't go out to eat.

Because food is unreasonably expensive for how subpar it is AND I am forced to tip.

So I just get some food at the supermarket and cook at home. I'll tip myself.

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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER
02/06/24 10:14:14 AM
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Funny because i wonder if all the people who didnt tip or didnt tip "enough" did not go eat, would the restaurants even make it.


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emblem-man
02/06/24 10:15:10 AM
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I'd just prefer if the tip was part of the menu cost of the food

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Dakimakura
02/06/24 10:15:33 AM
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Tipping just seems natural to me. If girl waitress I am attracted to tip big to not disappoint her. If with girl tip big to make myself look good. If guy waiter and no date then no tip.

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Starks
02/06/24 10:15:34 AM
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I just went through Japan and they have no tipping. That was fantastic.

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Glob
02/06/24 10:15:55 AM
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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...
Funny because i wonder if all the people who didnt tip or didnt tip "enough" did not go eat, would the restaurants even make it.

I eat out or order in for all of my meals. No tips necessary here. Nothing wrong with that system.
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Naysaspace
02/06/24 10:15:57 AM
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just like before the anti-tipping craze that has come in lockstep with inflation and the post-pandemic affordability crisis, i tip for good service. and usually i do get good service

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Jabodie
02/06/24 10:19:06 AM
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Tbh I agree.

Hopefully we can put tip based establishments out of business one day.

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Villain_S_Fiend
02/06/24 10:20:06 AM
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I agree that the tipping business model is unethical and helps to artificially prop up restaurants that would fail if they didn't have the crutch of underpaid/overworked staff. I agree that it should be done away with and everyone should get a liveable wage, regardless of their work.

That said, we (America) currently live in a country with tipping culture, and until that changes I absolutely agree with TC. It's not the employee's fault that they're underpaid and overworked, and the employee should not be the target of the disgruntled consumer's righteous indignation. Either tip your god damn server or stay home.

When someone says "well the restaurant should pay their workers instead of relying on me to pay them" while eating at the restaurant, that isn't telling the restaurant anything - it's only being a dick to the employees and feeding the machine that lets you act like a classist pos because your server (the one who actually has a right to their righteous indignation) didn't fill your water enough times.

And just to make it clear my argument isn't secretly about me or whatever: I'm fortunate enough to have never had to work a food service job.

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ai123
02/06/24 10:20:28 AM
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refmon posted...
It should be a law at this point
If you can't pay the rent on your premises, you go out of business.

If you can't pay your suppliers, you go out of business.

If you refuse to pay your employees. Hey, get the customer to do that so they don't feel like poor scum! Make it a law!

I always tip the customary amount, but I will never have anything but contempt for people who think the system isn't exploitative capitalism at its near-worst.

Bring on the 'no way to prevent this' defences.

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LoveLikeJazz
02/06/24 10:22:40 AM
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ai123 posted...
If you can't pay the rent on your premises, you go out of business.

If you can't pay your suppliers, you go out of business.

If you refuse to pay your employees. Hey, get the customer to do that so they don't feel like poor scum! Make it a law!

I always tip the customary amount, but I will never have anything but contempt for people who think the system isn't exploitative capitalism at its near-worst.

Bring on the 'no way to prevent this' defences.


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cjsdowg
02/06/24 10:25:06 AM
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I never said that but they never irked me before. But now it does. Poor ppl shouldn't eat. Because they can't tip other poor ppl while the higher ups are making all the money.

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Dakimakura
02/06/24 10:26:19 AM
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
I agree that the tipping business model is unethical and helps to artificially prop up restaurants that would fail if they didn't have the crutch of underpaid/overworked staff. I agree that it should be done away with and everyone should get a liveable wage, regardless of their work.

That said, we (America) currently live in a country with tipping culture, and until that changes I absolutely agree with TC. It's not the employee's fault that they're underpaid and overworked, and the employee should not be the target of the disgruntled consumer's righteous indignation. Either tip your god damn server or stay home.

When someone says "well the restaurant should pay their workers instead of relying on me to pay them" while eating at the restaurant, that isn't telling the restaurant anything - it's only being a dick to the employees and feeding the machine that lets you act like a classist pos because your server (the one who actually has a right to their righteous indignation) didn't fill your water enough times.

And just to make it clear my argument isn't secretly about me or whatever: I'm fortunate enough to have never had to work a food service job.

To be clear, nothing said on Gamefaqs in the year 2024 actually matters or makes even the tiniest bit of difference in the world.

We are all just yelling into an empty void.

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C_Pain
02/06/24 10:26:46 AM
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If no one goes there because we can't afford the tip, then the place goes out of business and the server has less money than they would have with bad tips.

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Villain_S_Fiend
02/06/24 10:36:49 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
To be clear, nothing said on Gamefaqs in the year 2024 actually matters or makes even the tiniest bit of difference in the world.

We are all just yelling into an empty void.
Yes, but we are yelling about real world happenings and ideas, and we all need a chance to vent now and then while we sit at home eating our limited edition chocolate strawberry Cheerios.

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pauIie
02/06/24 10:38:26 AM
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no the law should be don't start a business if you can't pay your workers.

the way it is now, yeah, tip. but if we're talking about what the law should be? shouldn't be a need for tips.

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ai123
02/06/24 10:55:51 AM
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This is the board that rails against capitalists, billionaires, and landlords.

It is also the board that thinks poor scum should not eat in restaurants.

The first group laughs as members of the second tear each other to pieces for their sport.

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Gritty
02/06/24 11:02:23 AM
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I hope tc is a waiter so I can tip him a penny
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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/06/24 11:03:19 AM
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If you're sad I'm not tipping your bottom of the barrel service, you should try quitting your job

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pauIie
02/06/24 11:04:36 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
If you're sad I'm not tipping your bottom of the barrel service, you should try quitting your job
shit post. somebody has to work these jobs otherwise we don't have food service. and they should be paid.

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Zikten
02/06/24 11:06:43 AM
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refmon posted...
It should be a law at this point
No. It should be a law that tipping is banned
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--Zero-
02/06/24 11:18:51 AM
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Only people getting bent out of shape over tipping are either the ones that currently work in restaurants, have worked in restaurant, or are manipulated by the system. The restaurant staff are just bias because they know they can take advantage of an easy job to make some easy cash and hate that it could go away. They make more than someone with minimum wage.

Oh no I didnt realize the $100 steak was so much harder for you to carry over to me than the $10 burger. Heres $20 instead of $2.

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Jupiter
02/06/24 11:20:28 AM
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inb4100posttopic

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whitelytning
02/06/24 11:22:48 AM
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Villain_S_Fiend posted...
I agree that the tipping business model is unethical and helps to artificially prop up restaurants that would fail if they didn't have the crutch of underpaid/overworked staff. I agree that it should be done away with and everyone should get a liveable wage, regardless of their work.

That said, we (America) currently live in a country with tipping culture, and until that changes I absolutely agree with TC. It's not the employee's fault that they're underpaid and overworked, and the employee should not be the target of the disgruntled consumer's righteous indignation. Either tip your god damn server or stay home.

When someone says "well the restaurant should pay their workers instead of relying on me to pay them" while eating at the restaurant, that isn't telling the restaurant anything - it's only being a dick to the employees and feeding the machine that lets you act like a classist pos because your server (the one who actually has a right to their righteous indignation) didn't fill your water enough times.

And just to make it clear my argument isn't secretly about me or whatever: I'm fortunate enough to have never had to work a food service job.


This. Good post.

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bluezero
02/06/24 11:26:24 AM
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Is every opinion TC has shit?

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gmanthebest
02/06/24 11:37:02 AM
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I'll tip for good service. To me, that's making sure my water cup isn't empty for a ridiculous amount of time. You'd be surprised the amount of places that bring you water when you get there and never fill it up again, even when they bring you the food

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PesticideDream
02/06/24 11:44:22 AM
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I don't mind tipping but it's also kind of ridiculous that 10 to 15% used to be the standard good tip and now 20% is the standard good tip, and I'm sure that'll eventually move up to servers throwing tantrums whenever someone doesn't tip 25% or more.
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Villain_S_Fiend
02/06/24 11:49:44 AM
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PesticideDream posted...
I don't mind tipping but it's also kind of ridiculous that 10 to 15% used to be the standard good tip and now 20% is the standard good tip, and I'm sure that'll eventually move up to servers throwing tantrums whenever someone doesn't tip 25% or more.
Their "tantrums" happen because inflation continues while the restaurant lobby keeps minimum wage low. The financial means to live a worthwhile life have to come from somewhere.

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Darkraiomb
02/06/24 11:51:33 AM
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I don't believe in tipping. It's a scam and a waste of money. But that won't stop me from eating at a restaurant.

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Kamil
02/06/24 11:51:40 AM
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I love how tipping topics here are guaranteed going to get a lot of posts. Anyhow I probably said it before but if I go to a sit down restaurant which is rare now I'll tip unless the service is just all time bad.

If I am going to a fast food place or picking up an order I am not throwing money in your damn tip cup. I'll tip when I get my head shaved though.

((Sorry I didn't have a funny response. My first post I seem to play it straight/honest and then as a topic progresses and I am still interested I tend to adjust how I post depending on the mood))

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Nirvanas_Nox
02/06/24 11:56:03 AM
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Honestly I agree. With most points that have been made here. Though if you wanna eat out and don't want to tip then it might be ij your interest to find and make a list of resturants that don't force you to tip and only go to those. They definitely do exsist.

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Darkraiomb
02/06/24 11:56:45 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0664bbde.jpg

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Dark_Arbron
02/06/24 11:59:48 AM
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As someone living in a developed country with a living wage, the fact tipping is an "issue" strikes me as odd.

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Glob
02/06/24 12:10:06 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
As someone in a developed country with a living wage, the fact tipping is an "issue" strikes me as fascinating.

Kinda like gun violence, unaffordable healthcare, gerrymandering and voter suppression, the cult-like pledge of allegiance and flag worship.

I live in a developing country and feel the same way.
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Kamil
02/06/24 12:45:31 PM
#43:


Darkraiomb posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0664bbde.jpg

Amusing, though I do always tip well if someone is delivering a pizza to my apt. First of all it's pizza one of thebest foods, second of all don't delivery driver have to pay for their own gas? Anyhow at least that feels like a service and I feel is deserved/earned.

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Smackems
02/06/24 12:49:38 PM
#44:


Kamil posted...
I love how tipping topics here are guaranteed going to get a lot of posts. Anyhow I probably said it before but if I go to a sit down restaurant which is rare now I'll tip unless the service is just all time bad.

If I am going to a fast food place or picking up an order I am not throwing money in your damn tip cup. I'll tip when I get my head shaved though.

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Same. But I don't care about percentages. I tip 10-20 bucks, and maybe the person I'm with tips too, and if it ain't good enough, oh well

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/06/24 12:49:48 PM
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Here we go again...

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bfslick50
02/06/24 12:51:50 PM
#46:


EndOfDiscOne posted...
This, only rich people should be starting businesses. Stay in your lane, poor people.

If the business can get away with paying under a living wage while starting up, they're not going to suddenly change when they become successful. Screwing over your employees should not be the go to cost saving measure.

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The_Korey
02/06/24 1:08:39 PM
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Zikten posted...
No. It should be a law that tipping is banned

Don't ban tipping. Ban bullshit wages that force workers to rely on being tipped.

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ArsGoetia
02/06/24 1:08:59 PM
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i've run 3 different restaurants, and waited tables before, and while i think tipping is a shit concept and wish it would go away, most waitstaff/bartenders/etc. i know greatly prefer it
even moreso if the establishment either doesnt make them declare or isnt very diligent at monitoring cash tips
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ModernPost
02/06/24 1:09:16 PM
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Glob posted...
Expecting tipping is stupid. At that point, its not a tip, its just that your prices are a lie.
Servers don't set the prices.

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