Current Events > Just finished paying off 400k in student loans.

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I'm pretty sure TC didn't and this is all a lie.. proof? would've been smart enough to stop posting a long long time ago on here or better yet not make such an embarrassing topic to begin with.

NightingaleMD posted...

As mentioned, grouping people into one large stereotype is inaccurate. There are moderates in the republican party and they were sabotaged by extremists. Unfortunately our system rewards extremism in the primaries (seen on BOTH SIDES) so moderate voices are getting pushed out.

Lmfao

No there are not

i know tc's reputation, and i remember before he went nuts too, but i dont really see a reason to doubt he's a doctor. it's not like doctors are automatically above being unethical

Dungeater posted...

i know tc's reputation, and i remember before he went nuts too, but i dont really see a reason to doubt he's a doctor. it's not like doctors are automatically above being unethical

Yeah, Wakefield was a Doctor before he tried to thoroughly defraud MMR and permanently stain the species with the proliferation of anti-vax rhetoric.

NightingaleMD posted...

Ended up with more time than I thought tonight. This would have to be piecemealed by topic, as I simply don't care enough to put the time into hours of individual topics all at once.

Again, neither party is perfect. I will preface this. But I dislike democratic ideology more.

Affirmative action
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/14/
private-selective-colleges-are-most-likely-to-use-race-ethnicity
-as-a-factor-in-admissions-decisions/

Democratic support for affirmative action is something I disagree with. It disenfranchises high performing ethnicities (I am ~not~ asian, btw) and enforces diversity for the sake of diversity rather than individual merits. This is a purely philosophical approach, if you feel 25% of the university of michigan "should be black" I guess we just have to disagree. Which, if you could believe in etiquette and discourse, is appropriate. Personally I feel, and this should be a recurring theme by now to anyone reading, in personal accountability. Relying on history or color of skin, regardless of validity, is a crutch I would never be proud of.

How does it relate to destroying this country? By deliberately separating people by ethnicity and pitting people, indirectly, against each other not on what's inside but by factors beyond control. This stirs division, in my opinion.

It largely exists due to democratic support:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/06/08/
demographic-and-partisan-views-about-race-and
-ethnicity-in-college-admissions/

You'll also see it skews towards support of younger individuals and less of older. This will be, to be clear, a recurring theme of republican vs democratic principles: age reflecting political opinions.

I've personally experienced this. I was insanely passionate about voting democratic when I was 18. Wanted all the handouts since I was super fucking poor and wanted to tax the rich to give all their money to me.

That extends to the topic at hand, as I definitely had zero dollars for college. Med school was my ONLY loan, btw. I worked full-time to pay for undergrad which delayed graduation by 3 years. Didn't take a single loan or get money from my parents. I had a 10%-ish scholarship to where I wanted to go but needed cash to cover the balance. But med school is so expensive I didn't even try.

Moderate republicanism > democrats > MAGA >>>>>> liberal wing defunding all authority. I didn't ASK who initiated it. I AKED who supported it. ALL democrats voted to crash the country. No comment, eh?

This doesn't explain how immigration and welfare are going to burn the country into the ground, or how this is worse than everything already outlined which again, you tolerate (the bigotry, etc)

Dungeater posted...

i know tc's reputation, and i remember before he went nuts too, but i dont really see a reason to doubt he's a doctor. it's not like doctors are automatically above being unethical

CE has had a history with people pretending to be a variety of professionals. I can't think of any of them that turned out to be legit

Lol I didn't even know TC posted on this board. I guess he got tired of spewing dumb shit (seems to be a recurring theme weird huh) on the now dead NCAAF board

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lol. What is this nonsense of a link and how is it relevant to anything TC has tried to discuss?

Some of the most interesting responses in this thread are from moderators. The whole thread is really odd though. I understand disagreeing with TCs position on loan relief but the overwhelming majority of responses dont even attempt to discuss it. They are just personal attacks and accusations of TC being a fascist/bigot (now genocide supporter) for things TC hasnt said (that I know of).

FYI the TC got banned from ETI for saying he would deny medical care to minorities.

Lonestar2000 posted...

FYI the TC got banned from ETI for saying he would deny medical care to minorities.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4de4f3ca.jpg

tbf whitelytning has degenerated in a similar way so idt he's really worth engaging with. he's not overtly boomer amd conservative, more just whatever he needs to be in order to be able to talk down to everyone in a given thread

NightingaleMD posted...

Zero sympathy for anyone that gets an 80k arts degree and begs for forgiveness while making 32k. These are things you think of before taking out loans.

Yes because 17 year olds are well known for being fiscally responsible and well educated on things like loans

Lonestar2000 posted...

FYI the TC got banned from ETI for saying he would deny medical care to minorities.

Criticism of the Healthcare system combined with sarcasm mixed with people not knowing how to even respond to a discussion of a broken system is another interpretation of that sentence

So I don't use sarcasm anymore

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And parents have no role in discussion? No accountability for them, either? No one is responsible???

I am doing pslf, 5 more years to go.

also dont bother making doctor topics anymore honestly, CE hates doctors. That is why I dont make them anymore unless it involes a funny story related to human stupidity.

I found out the hard way for having a different opinion.

Wow, this is still going
whitelytning posted...

I understand disagreeing with TCs position on loan relief but the overwhelming majority of responses dont even attempt to discuss it.

They did, but TC ignored the good responses because of course.

I used to think like TC, but now I'm happy for people who get cheap rides through high like any other civilized country. I stopped being a dumbfuck, ditched the crabs in a bucket mentality, grew the fuck up and stopped listening to conservative bullshit like Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Wow, this is still going

They did, but TC ignored the good responses because of course.

I used to think like TC, but now I'm happy for people who get cheap rides through high like any other civilized country. I stopped being a dumbfuck, ditched the crabs in a bucket mentality, grew the fuck up and stopped listening to conservative bullshit like Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

He isnt wrong. You should see the type of people that show up in hospitals.

megamanfreakXD posted...

He isnt wrong. You should see the type of people that show up in hospitals.

Idiots being everywhere doesn't actually change the point.

megamanfreakXD posted...

He isnt wrong. You should see the type of people that show up in hospitals.

Human beings?

NightingaleMD posted...

Criticism of the Healthcare system combined with sarcasm mixed with people not knowing how to even respond to a discussion of a broken system is another interpretation of that sentence

So I don't use sarcasm anymore

You were also banned for much more than what was called out, and we have no reason to believe it was ever sarcasm given your long history.

This is poor damage control and you've been suspended for your "sarcasm" multiple times here.

megamanfreakXD posted...

He isnt wrong. You should see the type of people that show up in hospitals.

Doesn't matter. The second you lose your empathy you've failed.

If you guys didn't just dog pile on each other this would be a much healthier place. Internet, or not you shouldn't just jump on people who don't think as you.

Hey, call me crazy, but i come here to have fun - not take issues out on people.

Just super saiyan.

Student loan is a fucking scam that preys on financially ignorant kids, and in my case stupid ass parents who want money to fuck up now. that's why i don't respect my mother's opinion on money now - she would have ruined me had i listened, and i would not have had only 3.4k which was forgiven during covid.

Debt free > a high paying job.

Again, congrats TC. I feel you should pat yourself on the back as many die with that still on them. Get out of that shit anyway you can.

Nintendo_Porn posted...

If you guys didn't just dog pile on each other this would be a much healthier place. Internet, or not you shouldn't just jump on people who don't think as you.

So what should we do? Is there a quota for people disagreeing with an idea, and no one else should voice their disagreement after?

What's the point of this post exactly

NightingaleMD posted...

He'd right though. He was trying to bridge both parties and was punished by Maga and finished off by dems

You talk about responsibility in this topic a bit so I think it is worth bringing up that McCarthy lied a ton to Democrats after becoming speaker. He was not extreme enough for the far-right contingency, sure, but Democrats letting him hang himself isn't extremism; it's just that any promises he makes in exchange for Democratic speakership votes are worthless because he'd already broken his word.

Surely you understand it's his responsibility not to lie and that he really can only blame himself if a majority of the house was ready to see him gone.

Gwynevere posted...

So what should we do? Is there a quota for people disagreeing with an idea, and no one else should voice their disagreement after?

What's the point of this post exactly

Some People here for some reason jump to putting an apposition down as a strat rather than letting their point stand on its own. It's a habit i notice here as if you believe in something you don't need to bring the opposition down.

make sense?

Zero_Destroyer posted...

You talk about responsibility in this topic a bit so I think it is worth bringing up that McCarthy lied a ton to Democrats after becoming speaker. He was not extreme enough for the far-right contingency, sure, but Democrats letting him hang himself isn't extremism; it's just that any promises he makes in exchange for Democratic speakership votes are worthless because he'd already broken his word.

Surely you understand it's his responsibility not to lie and that he really can only blame himself if a majority of the house was ready to see him gone.

Also, why should the burden of the Olive Branch be on the Democrats after 1/6 and the continued misinformation they push regarding the 2020 election?

Nintendo_Porn posted...

Some People here for some reason jump to putting an apposition down as a strat rather than letting their point stand on its own. It's a habit i notice here as if you believe in something you don't need to bring the opposition down.

make sense?

This might check out in a place where everyone doesn't recognize each other, but CE has so few people that posting histories don't get forgotten. TC has regularly gotten himself suspended for flippantly saying offensive shit. Absolutely no one has put words in TCs mouth or said anything about him that's not true. That's not a dogpile, that's people reacting appropriately to readily available information.

And honestly I'm not sure why you're trying to give everyone else shit when TC cold opened this topic antagonizing people who got art degrees and want forgiveness. Like he opened the topic being an asshole, and everyone else is the issue? Lol

Gwynevere posted...

This might check out in a place where everyone doesn't recognize each other, but CE has so few people that posting histories don't get forgotten. TC has regularly gotten himself suspended for flippantly saying offensive shit. Absolutely no one has put words in TCs mouth or said anything about him that's not true. That's not a dogpile, that's people reacting appropriately to readily available information.

And honestly I'm not sure why you're trying to give everyone else shit when TC cold opened this topic antagonizing people who got art degrees and want forgiveness. Like he opened the topic being an asshole, and everyone else is the issue? Lol

Lol is a strat too I notice.

But I get you as forgot people start shit here too which I don't get either. Guess I should be silent if it's brought on one self. I just wish unhealthy behavior wasnt normalized when I remember you all are people. At least how I want to approach interacting with randoms.

Don't wanna be that thing that pushed someone over the edge at this stage, you know?

Dungeater posted...

i know tc's reputation, and i remember before he went nuts too, but i dont really see a reason to doubt he's a doctor. it's not like doctors are automatically above being unethical

Yep, after all Rep Ronnie Jackson, when he was the WH physician, said Trump was in super healthy shape and could have lived to 200 if only he'd never eaten any McDonald's.

They may be smart enough to get through medical school, however that doesn't mean they're smart enough to not fall for right-wing propagandist mis/disinformation.

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iirc megamanfreak got hit for saying some nasty shit not long after TC got suspended in his topic about Vivek. It's really not that CE hates doctors, but the people here claiming to be doctors always seem to trip over themselves to post the worst shit imaginable

Gwynevere posted...

iirc megamanfreak got hit for saying some nasty shit not long after TC got suspended in his topic about Vivek. It's really not that CE hates doctors, but the people here claiming to be doctors always seem to trip over themselves to post the worst shit imaginable

The least shitty doctor/alleged doctor we've had is the one that pretended to be a pregnant asian woman

Pretty whack tbh

NightingaleMD posted...

Criticism of the Healthcare system combined with sarcasm mixed with people not knowing how to even respond to a discussion of a broken system is another interpretation of that sentence

So I don't use sarcasm anymore

Oh, so you were just posting racist crap "sarcastically"? You are so full of crap, no one is believing the shit you spew.

What posted

Sorry what's wrong with forgiving teenagers who didn't perfectly plan out their life?
Life is about mistakes, learn to forgive people who make them instead of angrily demanding they suffer forever.

havean776 posted...

Sorry what's wrong with forgiving teenagers who didn't perfectly plan out their life?
Life is about mistakes, learn to forgive people who make them instead of angrily demanding they suffer forever.

Yeah but welfare and immigrants

havean776 posted...

Sorry what's wrong with forgiving teenagers who didn't perfectly plan out their life?
Life is about mistakes, learn to forgive people who make them instead of angrily demanding they suffer forever.

B-but if *I* have to suffer, then *they* have to suffer!

And they always handwave the PPP loan forgiveness

Not around much this weekend due to holiday/life stuff. Some posts stand out to me more than others:

Will_VIIII posted...

Also, why should the burden of the Olive Branch be on the Democrats after 1/6 and the continued misinformation they push regarding the 2020 election?

Because they represent the country, not a party. "One side did wrong so other side can do whatever" is the goal here? I've never said the republican party as a whole is admirable, I've just said I lean conservative. But putting democrats up on a pedestal after watching them contribute to gridlocking is confusing. They knew what they were doing.

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You've never answered my question so its hard to communicate with you about this. I'll try again. WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?

Seriously. No sarcasm at all.

So a 17 or 18 year old doesn't understand loans. Not their fault. Arguable, though there is a slight point that an 18 year old is an adult.

But its inexcusable to not fault the parents co signing loans. No 18 year old doesn't have a co signer.

Let me ask you the question differently:

If I don't understand the terms of my mortgage, do I get my house for free? Will government just buy me a car if I don't understand car payments? Why is there such an exception for loans where ignorance is considered a valid excuse?

I'm not going to disagree there are for-profit incentives with the industry. But society is fundamentally for profit. Very little business is charity business and for the nth time, college isn't mandatory.

Or do it my way and pay as you go (possible with undergrad, med school not so much)

iirc megamanfreak got hit for saying some nasty shit not long after TC got suspended in his topic about Vivek. It's really not that CE hates doctors, but the people here claiming to be doctors always seem to trip over themselves to post the worst shit imaginable

Not a coincidence. I'm too busy to write this up now but there have been soooooo many comments about empathy between this and other topics.

See the worst imaginable shit, say the worst imaginable shit. Over time you realize...world wasn't quite what you thought it was, especially with the right exposure.

Fresh out of med school, one of the first attending I worked with did a thing that didn't really make sense until much later.

We had a really, really bad case. Made worse by a patient parent being intentionally deceptive and it resulted in his infant dying horrifically and needlessly.

Afterward he gave me a post-it note for my notebook. He wrote on it, "nightingaleMD's soul."

Then he tore off a small piece and gave me the rest. He told me every time something like this happens he's going to take another piece from me until I have "nothing left."

It was dark humor but it had a point.

See the worst imaginable shit, post the worst imaginable shit.

Or just keep my mouth shut and watch everyone be sunshine and daisies.

NightingaleMD posted...

I've just said I lean conservative. But putting democrats up on a pedestal after watching them contribute to gridlocking is confusing

What happened with roe v Wade thanks to conservatives again?

NightingaleMD posted...

If I don't understand the terms of my mortgage, do I get my house for free? Will government just buy me a car if I don't understand car payments?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c64fd485.jpg

NightingaleMD posted...

Not a coincidence. I'm too busy to write this up now but there have been soooooo many comments about empathy between this and other topics.

See the worst imaginable shit, say the worst imaginable shit. Over time you realize...world wasn't quite what you thought it was, especially with the right exposure.

Fresh out of med school, one of the first attending I worked with did a thing that didn't really make sense until much later.

We had a really, really bad case. Made worse by a patient parent being intentionally deceptive and it resulted in his infant dying horrifically and needlessly.

Afterward he gave me a post-it note for my notebook. He wrote on it, "nightingaleMD's soul."

Then he tore off a small piece and gave me the rest. He told me every time something like this happens he's going to take another piece from me until I have "nothing left."

It was dark humor but it had a point.

See the worst imaginable shit, post the worst imaginable shit.

Or just keep my mouth shut and watch everyone be sunshine and daisies.

dont bother. I accepted the fact that people wont truly understand unless they work in the field. They think doctors go out to play golf everyday after their 9-5 job.

I also started laughing at the posts about empathy. You think empathy would matter in a lawsuit when there is actual no malpractice case?