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Cocytus
11/13/23 2:51:18 PM
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Probably everyone is bored with it.

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pretzelcoatl
11/13/23 2:51:59 PM
#52:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
Companies jump on this bandwagon just to defend themselves since they made a shitty movie. Reminds me of the ghost busters fiasco tbh.
Same way they now dismiss any poor reception for any media as "review bombing" instead of legitimate criticism
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David1988
11/13/23 2:54:49 PM
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Has it been long enough to milk the audience from remakes of iron man and other old movies?

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TripleDouble
11/13/23 2:56:24 PM
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I need hot dudes in my marvel movies

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superbot400
11/13/23 2:56:27 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I heard the only good thing about it was the actress who played Kamala Khan.
I feel bad for her and her character. Marvel tried so hard to push. Everything she is in..flops

She is cursed

Tsukasa1891 posted...
Don't worry. Disney will continue to spend hundreds of millions on movies they know will never break even let alone make a profit.

Nah. Perlmuttet was running the show, he flat out refused to let Marvel run movies like Black Panther and Captain Marvel until recently.


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voldothegr8
11/13/23 2:57:09 PM
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I haven't given a shit about the MCU since Endgame

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xlr_big-coop
11/13/23 2:57:43 PM
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Scintillant posted...
down with capeshit
This. Absolutely enjoying the fallout. Where the shills at? Haha, guess CM 1 truly only reached a billion due to endgame hype. And again, may this spell the end of capeshit. Fuck the mcu.

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epik_fail1
11/13/23 2:57:45 PM
#58:


pretzelcoatl posted...
Same way they now dismiss any poor reception for any media as "review bombing" instead of legitimate criticism

Let's stop pretending review bombing doesn't happen.

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pretzelcoatl
11/13/23 3:29:41 PM
#59:


David1988 posted...
Has it been long enough to milk the audience from remakes of iron man and other old movies?
They're reportedly trying to get RDJ back lmao
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pretzelcoatl
11/13/23 3:30:24 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
Let's stop pretending review bombing doesn't happen.
Review bombing does happen. And yet, not every critically panned piece of media is review bombed. As per my post.
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Heavy_D_Forever
11/13/23 3:31:53 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
Let's stop pretending review bombing doesn't happen.
It does for user reviews. When critic reviews shit all over a movie it's because it's fucking trash.

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archedsoul
11/13/23 8:22:27 PM
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Charged151 posted...
Comics are dominated by men. No surprise there.
Yet, more women watched Aquaman.

They've obviously been trying to branch out to others, but have been failing.

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YellowSUV
11/13/23 11:10:36 PM
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The biggest shock is how I'm not hearing a bunch of people blaming this on sexism.

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Punished_Blinx
11/13/23 11:14:46 PM
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It's a shame how they really fucked up the rollout for Ms Marvel. Not making a simple Captain Marvel 2 was a really stupid decision too. Oh well.

Alarm bells have gotta be ringing at Disney. They're running out of safe tentpoles rapidly.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/13/23 11:16:36 PM
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xlr_big-coop posted...
This. Absolutely enjoying the fallout. Where the shills at? Haha, guess CM 1 truly only reached a billion due to endgame hype. And again, may this spell the end of capeshit. Fuck the mcu.
Look what you've done. You've gone and posted cringe.

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Ivynn
11/13/23 11:23:31 PM
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MCU burned through all their goodwill on mediocre projects and saying each of them was important to the overall narrative.

Having people watch 2-3 shows to understand 1 movie was a tall ask.

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Punished_Blinx
11/13/23 11:26:45 PM
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There's just so many issues after Endgame it's hard to find where to even begin.

Like it's taking so long for them to follow up on anything. Even Captain Marvel was over 4 years ago.

If Iron Man 2 wasn't Iron Man 2 and was instead called Armor Wars and didn't come out until 2012 I don't think that would have done as well either.

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Gobstoppers12
11/13/23 11:32:15 PM
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The trailers made it seem super gimmicky, the characters don't seem likeable, the entire MCU is losing steam, it's coming out on Disney+ soon... lots of reasons.

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Blue_Popo
11/13/23 11:32:53 PM
#69:


Ivynn posted...
MCU burned through all their goodwill on mediocre projects and saying each of them was important to the overall narrative.

Having people watch 2-3 shows to understand 1 movie was a tall ask.

My girlfriend watched the marvels without having seen wandavidision or ms marvel and dug it. She did watch caotain marvel. Forum dwellers over think the "homework aspect", its a blockbuster movie not rocket science, you can figure out quick who is who
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FortuneCookie
11/13/23 11:34:44 PM
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There are times when I'll watch a western from the 1960s or 1970s and be surprised to read that they underperformed. Then I'll remember how utterly oversaturated the western market was. I think superheroes have become the modern day westerns.

It could be that people are tired of, "You loved Guardians of the Galaxy, give these unknowns a chance." It could be that the genre itself is played out and people simply can't get excited for them the way that they could ten, twenty, or thirty years ago.
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Gobstoppers12
11/13/23 11:39:08 PM
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Endgame blew all the tension. No Way Home was in some ways a climax of 20 years worth of Spider-Man movies, too, so it's no surprise it brought in a metric ton of cash as well.

All the other MCU movies and shows since endgame have run the range from decent to bad, and none of the recent films have been great. Aside from Guardians 3, arguably, which is also a finale in many ways.

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Cobra1010
11/13/23 11:44:51 PM
#72:


YellowSUV posted...
The biggest shock is how I'm not hearing a bunch of people blaming this on sexism.

There was a topic on here blaming it on brie larson haters and quite a few usuals jumped on it and immediately saying something about women having opinions and men not liking it or something.

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dave_is_slick
11/13/23 11:53:45 PM
#73:


epik_fail1 posted...
Let's stop pretending review bombing doesn't happen.
As long as y'all stop using it as a crutch whenever a movie does bad.

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Punished_Blinx
11/13/23 11:55:38 PM
#74:


If people were still excited about the movie the mixed reviews wouldn't matter as much. Look at Mario.

But superhero movies aren't exciting by default anymore. WB and Sony are learning this lesson as well.

Even when they're good it's not the same. I don't think anyone would have predicted a few years ago that Oppenheimer would do better than GOTG3 and The Batman.

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GrandConjuraton
11/13/23 11:56:31 PM
#75:


Scintillant posted...
down with capeshit


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uberl33tpro
11/14/23 12:06:37 AM
#76:


I'm all for hot chicks, but Brie Larson is not hot.
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xGhostchantx
11/14/23 12:07:22 AM
#77:


There is no passion in Marvel movies and there hasn't been since before Endgame, it's by the numbers focus group (and arguably always was) but I think it's more that people are just tired of them now. There's one every year and every single one of them is the same and all the more recent ones are characters that very few people actually give a shit about.

It's always the same -- start character development, find MacGuffin, undermine character development with jokes, make moar joke, defeat Big Bad, make another joke, credits, post-credit joke. It turned itself into a joke by undermining itself with jokes. When you turn your entire product into a joke, the consumers will treat it like one.

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FortuneCookie
11/14/23 12:14:47 AM
#78:


uberl33tpro posted...
I'm all for hot chicks, but Brie Larson is not hot.

She was cute in Kong: Skull Island.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c8ad7310.jpg

She looks better with the dirty blonde look, half-brunette, whatever that darker blonde is called.
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SDBZ
11/14/23 12:26:46 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I heard the only good thing about it was the actress who played Kamala Khan.

She's a cutie

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Master_Kazuya
11/14/23 12:37:56 AM
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Captain Marvel was bland. It wasn't the worst movie ever, but it was like a "this is only entertaining for the moment I watch it" sorta thing. Also in End Game, she was obviously so powerful that she seems even lamer for her being some Deus Ex Machina solve-all resolution. She should be losing to Galactus in her movie. She could've beat Thanos before he was an issue but she has 'other things' to attend to??

The trailer also did not look good. This is not just because of girls or anything. I ended up watching Quantamania and I thought it was AWFUL.

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Mew
11/14/23 12:42:22 AM
#81:


YellowSUV posted...
The biggest shock is how I'm not hearing a bunch of people blaming this on sexism.
Thats when you know how bad this doodoo is

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Solo_Wing
11/14/23 12:48:46 AM
#82:


Carljank posted...
Facts. But the clowns will deny it.
Agreed. That's why those clowns also hated Wonder Woman.

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Gremlynn
11/14/23 12:51:21 AM
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it's kinda funny to me how everybody here who says they saw the movie seems to have found it enjoyable, while everybody in this topic talking about it being bad are only referencing the trailers, super hero fatigue, their thoughts on Phase 4 and 5 as a whole, a lack of interest in the characters themselves, lack of marketing, under performing ticket sales, and negative reviews.

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Blue_Popo
11/14/23 12:53:48 AM
#84:


Gremlynn posted...
it's kinda funny to me how everybody here who says they saw the movie seems to have found it enjoyable, while everybody in this topic talking about it being bad are only referencing the trailers, super hero fatigue, their thoughts on Phase 4 and 5 as a whole, a lack of interest in the characters themselves, lack of marketing, under performing ticket sales, and negative reviews.

Echo chamber. Its an enjoyable movie that paid for the sins of other mcu movies
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FortuneCookie
11/14/23 12:58:13 AM
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Solo_Wing posted...
Agreed. That's why those clowns also hated Wonder Woman.

There are sexists. There are open sexists who run on a platform of sexism.

But I honestly don't remember Wonder Woman getting flack until the sequels. For the most part, the response was positive. There were some people mad about her being an Israeli soldier, but that's the only controversy I remember.
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Calamity316
11/14/23 12:58:17 AM
#86:


Gremlynn posted...
it's kinda funny to me how everybody here who says they saw the movie seems to have found it enjoyable, while everybody in this topic talking about it being bad are only referencing the trailers, super hero fatigue, their thoughts on Phase 4 and 5 as a whole, a lack of interest in the characters themselves, lack of marketing, under performing ticket sales, and negative reviews.

the movie was honestly a great movie . The ppl that say its bad had their opinions made far before the movie was made and like youve said obviously havent seen the movie .
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meralonne
11/14/23 1:08:27 AM
#87:


Gremlynn posted...
it's kinda funny to me how everybody here who says they saw the movie seems to have found it enjoyable, while everybody in this topic talking about it being bad are only referencing the trailers, super hero fatigue, their thoughts on Phase 4 and 5 as a whole, a lack of interest in the characters themselves, lack of marketing, under performing ticket sales, and negative reviews.

I saw it. I enjoyed it. Its never going to win Best Picture, but who cares?


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C_Pain
11/14/23 1:10:13 AM
#88:


Whether marvel is good or bad people won't stop talking about it. Please no more.

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VeesMcGees
11/14/23 1:18:28 AM
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In a film group Im elsewhere there have been a number of lukewarm reviews to The Marvels.

Im debating about seeing it today since its cheap movie Tuesday and Ive watched most the MCU movies.

I wanted a MCU movie to tank badly so that hopefully the execs would need to course correct the franchise and maybe save it from the assembly line style most of the movies have been on since phase 2. I didnt want The Marvels to be the one that came out all the way on the bottom and be forced to the jeers of the M-She-U YouTubers while having no critical defense for itself.
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Revisited
11/14/23 3:58:45 AM
#90:


Lairen posted...
So they switch upon using their powers? That sounds stupid.

I heard about the cat thing. That sounds stupid.

Literally why would i be interested?
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Did they really use a plot point gimmick from fantastic four 2? They couldn't have could they?
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Gremlynn
11/14/23 4:06:08 AM
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Revisited posted...
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Did they really use a plot point gimmick from fantastic four 2? They couldn't have could they?

I don't recall that being a thing in FF2 but i also never really went back and re-watched it.

The swapping sets up for some pretty solid action set pieces and a few quirky gags.

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DuuuDe14
11/14/23 4:57:49 AM
#92:


archedsoul posted...
The audience turnout is interesting from the article.

65% of the audience was men. Women didn't really show up.

Bill Burr ranting in the distance.

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Zwijn
11/14/23 5:07:48 AM
#93:


Im sure I wont actually hate it. I never saw any difference in these MCU phases, they all had garbage and good installments. Not giving them money though, I dont pay for movies.
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apolloooo
11/14/23 5:15:39 AM
#94:


Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cf6bac5d.jpg
Tru tru.


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TheShadowViper
11/14/23 5:24:09 AM
#95:


Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/cf6bac5d.jpg
Stephen King is known for having some terrible opinions.

The answer to his question is that the only thing companies understand is money. When you believe something is on the wrong track, like many do with the MCU, the only time you can say "I told you so" with actual evidence is after box office failure...as that is the only metric that matters to these companies and the people who support them.

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Ivynn
11/14/23 7:58:57 AM
#96:


TheShadowViper posted...
Stephen King is known for having some terrible opinions.

The answer to his question is that the only thing companies understand is money. When you believe something is on the wrong track, like many do with the MCU, the only time you can say "I told you so" with actual evidence is after box office failure...as that is the only metric that matters to these companies and the people who support them.

Of course Stephen King wouldn't understand a disaffected fan of Marvel, he is, by his own admission, largely indifferent to such content.

bruh the movie board is filled with people celebrating, claiming "superheroes are only for boys, not girls" and "maybe MCU will stop chasing the female audience and start focusing on their real audience" etc. (paraphrased opinions, but that's the sentiment). There is definitely a segment that are happy because they hate sharing their toys.

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Sansoldier
11/14/23 8:04:54 AM
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It was okay, pretty decent. It was the first movie I attended in a long while where there were multiple, audible laughs, though.

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masterpug53
11/14/23 9:27:44 AM
#98:


Blue_Popo posted...
My girlfriend watched the marvels without having seen wandavidision or ms marvel and dug it. She did watch caotain marvel. Forum dwellers over think the "homework aspect", its a blockbuster movie not rocket science, you can figure out quick who is who

I sometimes wonder if the people who dwell too much on the 'homework' aspect believe that every single moviegoer who helped catapult Infinity War to well over 2 billion dollars at the box office was a diehard fan who knew every single MCU movie, character, and plotline like the back of their hand.

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_____Cait
11/14/23 9:30:00 AM
#99:


I have a feeling that they are doing the weird tactic of releasing crap, and then they come out with Xmen and everyone is happy and excited. Like an abusive relationship works.

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HornyLevel
11/14/23 2:40:51 PM
#100:


Gremlynn posted...
it's kinda funny to me how everybody here who says they saw the movie seems to have found it enjoyable, while everybody in this topic talking about it being bad are only referencing the trailers, super hero fatigue, their thoughts on Phase 4 and 5 as a whole, a lack of interest in the characters themselves, lack of marketing, under performing ticket sales, and negative reviews.
Exactly, it's not that bad of a movie, which means superhero fatigue and a weak Phase 4 and 5 are very relevant here.

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