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Incredible
11/11/23 1:46:27 AM
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Imagine if the Playstation never came out

Thank god

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SomeLikeItHoth
11/11/23 1:55:55 AM
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Id be reading a book rn if Sony never broke away from Nintendo.

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Fenriswolf
11/11/23 1:57:13 AM
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They'd just be on the Sega Saturn instead LMAO.

Also Sony as a corporation is horrid. SCEA used to block 2D games on PS2 and even up until a few years ago they tried to prevent online multiplayer games from being cross platform.

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WingsOfGood
11/11/23 1:57:28 AM
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We would have full body VR and inhalable game systems like that Sony ad for ps9 or w\e
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Philip027
11/11/23 2:00:41 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but video gaming was in a much sorrier state before the NES came out compared to when the PS1 came out.
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CassandraCroft
11/11/23 2:16:38 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF!

OOOHHH look at the sad little Sony Pony.

Here laugh riot EVERYTHING Sony has ever done in their life has been nothing but fucking shit.

Lets see now: The superior VHS absolutely annihilated the piss poor Betamax in every conceivable way possible. Sony made so many mistakes regarding Beta it allowed JVC and VHS to win the video format wars.

The Playstation had inferior graphics to The Saturn.

The PS2 was obliterated for everything by the Xbox and GameCube.

The PS3 was handed it's sorry ass on a silver platter by the Xbox 360.

The Xbox One X had superior graphics to the PS4 Pro.

The Xbox Series X rips apart the PS5 in terms of everything.

Oh tell me how are you enjoying playing censored games on your PS consoles. A censorship so bad even Nintendo are laughing at them.

Sony is not just one of the worst gaming companies but they are probably the worst electronics company on the planet.

Just run along and enjoy living in your own little dreamworld my little laugh riot Sony Pony.

Oh and thanks for the laugh I needed it.

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bnui_ransder
11/11/23 2:20:08 AM
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Calm down

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Mr-Fox
11/11/23 2:20:15 AM
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Yep, I wouldn't be gaming if not for PS. I have never owned any consoles besides PS.

Would probably just be playing Half Life 2 and Deus Ex on PC.
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Dark_Arbron
11/11/23 2:27:24 AM
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Why are adults still engaging in that console war nonsense? You were supposed to grow out of that once you had your own money.

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party_animal07
11/11/23 2:31:14 AM
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I hope all of that is a copy pasta.

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bnui_ransder
11/11/23 2:31:44 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Why are adults still engaging in that console war nonsense? You were supposed to grow out of that once you had your own money.
Cheap feeling of superiority? No clue

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Mr_Karate_II
11/11/23 2:34:42 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
They'd just be on the Sega Saturn instead LMAO.

Also Sony as a corporation is horrid. SCEA used to block 2D games on PS2 and even up until a few years ago they tried to prevent online multiplayer games from being cross platform.
Unfortunately the Sega Saturn wouldn't have succeeded in the long run. It was ahead of its time.

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Zikten
11/11/23 2:51:44 AM
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Sony did not save gaming. Nintendo did. Learn your video game history, people. Doesn't matter if you individually began gaming on a playstation. History doesn't revolve around you. The only time gaming was at threat of extinction was when the NES came out
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Fenriswolf
11/11/23 3:07:56 AM
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Zikten posted...
Sony did not save gaming. Nintendo did. Learn your video game history, people. Doesn't matter if you individually began gaming on a playstation. History doesn't revolve around you. The only time gaming was at threat of extinction was when the NES came out

I love it when Americans pretend that video games would cease to exist without Nintendo. The NES wasn't that popular in Europe and Latin America, which simply gravitated towards rival consoles like the Master System and home computers like C64 and Amiga.

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itachi15243
11/11/23 3:12:31 AM
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party_animal07 posted...
I hope all of that is a copy pasta.

After a few google searches I'm starting to get the feeling that it wasn't...

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Zikten
11/11/23 3:27:18 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
I love it when Americans pretend that video games would cease to exist without Nintendo. The NES wasn't that popular in Europe and Latin America, which simply gravitated towards rival consoles like the Master System and home computers like C64 and Amiga.
I understand that but , and I dont to be a jerk but back then, really only the US and Japan markets mattered. Europe in the 80s was a side project to video game devs
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Dark_Arbron
11/11/23 3:28:42 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
I love it when Americans pretend that video games would cease to exist without Nintendo. The NES wasn't that popular in Europe and Latin America, which simply gravitated towards rival consoles like the Master System and home computers like C64 and Amiga.

The crash was indeed only a massive thing in the US. It wasnt at risk of extinction anywhere else.


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Philip027
11/11/23 3:38:05 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
I love it when Americans pretend that video games would cease to exist without Nintendo. The NES wasn't that popular in Europe and Latin America, which simply gravitated towards rival consoles like the Master System and home computers like C64 and Amiga.

I love it when Europe and Latin America pretend like their markets mattered at all to game companies back then.
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Dark_Arbron
11/11/23 3:41:54 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I love it when Europe and Latin America pretend like their markets mattered at all to game companies back then.

Fenris represents neither of those markets. Hes only here because its an excuse to shit-talk the US.

Dont get me wrong, Im not fond of the US either, but I also dont base half an account gimmick on it.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/11/23 3:52:02 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF!

OOOHHH look at the sad little Sony Pony.

Here laugh riot EVERYTHING Sony has ever done in their life has been nothing but fucking shit.

Lets see now: The superior VHS absolutely annihilated the piss poor Betamax in every conceivable way possible. Sony made so many mistakes regarding Beta it allowed JVC and VHS to win the video format wars.
JVC & VHS won the Home Video Cassette Tape wars.

But Betacam owned the professional market.

The Playstation had inferior graphics to The Saturn.
True, while "The Saturn" was technically superior in terms of hardware, it was also incredibly complex to program for and the tools were a joke. Asking the devs to program in assembly at that time was stupid and there tools were NO-WHERE close to being friendly.

At the end of the day, Bigger / Better Software Library wins out along with a easier to develop for platform.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5a258d5e.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_generation_of_video_game_consoles
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/33e54de0.png
Sony PS1 wiped the floor with EVERY contender, COMBINED.

The PS2 was obliterated for everything by the Xbox and GameCube.
The 6th Generation was called the PS2 era for a reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_generation_of_video_game_consoles
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ed5fc337.png
I'll give Xbox & GameCube it's props in terms of hardware, they were a bit better than Sony's PS2, but they released after Sony released as well, so they knew what kind of hardware Sony had and what they needed to counter it. So they had the advantage of being late movers.

But having better 3rd Party Developer Support & ease of development allowed a superior Software Library to form:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5be11b3d.png
That's why PS2 dominated Xbox, GameCube & DC combined in terms of hardware sales & software sales to boot.

The PS3 was handed it's sorry ass on a silver platter by the Xbox 360.
Only for the initial part of the Console War.
This was where Sony screwed up from 2x Generations of run-away success.
They made the PS3 too hard to develop for and MS made it easier to develop.
That's why they were on the backfoot at the initial half of the console war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_generation_of_video_game_consoles
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0f3305b2.png
But in the end, Sony got their act together and barely eeked a win.

Nintendo managed to figure out that casuals liked their gimmicks and decided to go down their own wacky path.


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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/11/23 4:00:53 AM
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The Xbox One X had superior graphics to the PS4 Pro.
All that extra power means jack when Sony had a 2:1 sales advantage against MS.
117.2 million sold of PS4's of all models compared to
58 million of XB1 family.
Again, MS failed another generation.

Nintendo failed with the WiiU and had to merge their Home Console & Portable Division into one unit.
They're lucky that the Nintendo Switch turned out to be a hit.
125.62 million units sold is great for hardware #'s.

The Xbox Series X rips apart the PS5 in terms of everything.
Raw Computational Power doesn't mean jack for gaming.
PS5 is doing just fine and XSX doesn't bring anything special to the table.

46.6 million PS5 consoles sold as of 2023/11-09
21.0 million XSX|S consoles sold as of 2023/06-30

It's looking like MS is taking the #2 spot AGAIN!

Oh tell me how are you enjoying playing censored games on your PS consoles. A censorship so bad even Nintendo are laughing at them.
Blame Jim Ryan, he's the idiot in charge of those policies.
https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/playstation-jim-ryan-exit-sony-retire-1235738074/
I'm glad he's ousted as CEO of Sony's PS division.

Sony is not just one of the worst gaming companies but they are probably the worst electronics company on the planet.
Many will disagree with your assessment.

Just run along and enjoy living in your own little dreamworld my little laugh riot Sony Pony.
You seem to hate Sony for some strange reason, I don't get you.

Oh and thanks for the laugh I needed it.
Somebody who lives in their own delusional reality needs to be slapped with cold hard hitting home truths.

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Trumble
11/11/23 4:03:56 AM
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It's not wrong to say that Sony's console often wasn't the most powerful of the generation, but the sales and library clearly prove it doesn't need to be the most powerful.

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Cassie
11/11/23 4:07:18 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF!

OOOHHH look at the sad little Sony Pony.

Here laugh riot EVERYTHING Sony has ever done in their life has been nothing but fucking shit.

Lets see now: The superior VHS absolutely annihilated the piss poor Betamax in every conceivable way possible. Sony made so many mistakes regarding Beta it allowed JVC and VHS to win the video format wars.

The Playstation had inferior graphics to The Saturn.

The PS2 was obliterated for everything by the Xbox and GameCube.

The PS3 was handed it's sorry ass on a silver platter by the Xbox 360.

The Xbox One X had superior graphics to the PS4 Pro.

The Xbox Series X rips apart the PS5 in terms of everything.

Oh tell me how are you enjoying playing censored games on your PS consoles. A censorship so bad even Nintendo are laughing at them.

Sony is not just one of the worst gaming companies but they are probably the worst electronics company on the planet.

Just run along and enjoy living in your own little dreamworld my little laugh riot Sony Pony.

Oh and thanks for the laugh I needed it.


settle down.


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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/11/23 4:09:46 AM
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Trumble posted...
It's not wrong to say that Sony's console often wasn't the most powerful of the generation, but the sales and library clearly prove it doesn't need to be the most powerful.
Historically speaking, most fo the successful consoles WERE NOT the most powerful of their generation.

NES wasn't the most powerful, it was actually the weakest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_generation_of_video_game_consoles
Go look at the hardware specs, it's the dev tools & 3rd party support that matters along with building a large library of software/games that matters.

Making the "Most Powerful Hardware" is nothing but e-Peen comparing.

Hardware is largely useless w/o a extensive software library.

You can worry about having bad-ass hardware after you got a amazing software library.

Ergo, Team x86 on the PC side with it's massive history of software.


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CassandraCroft
11/11/23 4:11:19 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
I love it when Americans pretend that video games would cease to exist without Nintendo. The NES wasn't that popular in Europe and Latin America, which simply gravitated towards rival consoles like the Master System and home computers like C64 and Amiga.

What an utterly fantastic post.

Aye The Yanks always conveniently forget that it was THE NORTH AMERICAN VIDEO GAME CRASH of 1983. It wasn't the world wide crash.

You are so right the NES bombed in Europe. I had an NES but binned it when the superior Master System came out.

You are so correct about computer gaming in the UK. Everybody was busy playing on their ZX Spectrum's, BBC Micro's, Commodore Vic 20/64's, Amiga's or Atari 800's to bother with consoles even though the Atari 2600 and I think Colecovision was out in the UK. That cycle of computer gaming wasn't broken in the UK until the graphically superior Mega Drive was released.

You are also so right that Nintendo did diddly squat in Europe. Oh I stand corrected they did do something and that was getting their asses kicked by SEGA!

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Guide
11/11/23 4:11:38 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...


I think you should see someone about this.

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CassandraCroft
11/11/23 4:16:18 AM
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@Kamen_Rider_Blade

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/11/23 4:22:17 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...
@Kamen_Rider_Blade

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Not surprised, this coming from a Moon Landing Denier.

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Sega9599
11/11/23 4:24:58 AM
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Philip027 posted...
I love it when Europe and Latin America pretend like their markets mattered at all to game companies back then.
I love it when citizens of the United States pretend they represent all of America by calling themselves Americans. And when they pretend the European market is and has always been inconsequential to the industry of gaming.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
11/11/23 4:29:47 AM
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Sega9599 posted...
I love it when citizens of the United States pretend they represent all of America by calling themselves Americans. And when they pretend the European market is and has always been inconsequential to the industry of gaming.
Europe has always mattered.

Europe has been part of the "Big 3x" gaming markets.

NA (North America)
EU (Europe)
JP (Japan)

Those are the original "Big 3x" gaming markets.

Latin America and other regions followed behind the "Big 3x" in importance.

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MyMainAccount
11/11/23 4:33:08 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...
The PS2 was obliterated for everything by the Xbox and GameCube.
@_@ yeaaaaa I'm not so sure about that one.

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Dark_Arbron
11/11/23 4:39:43 AM
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MyMainAccount posted...
@_@ yeaaaaa I'm not so sure about that one.

Isnt it fairly well documented that the PS3 underperformed because Sony was overconfident after dominating with the PS2?

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CassandraCroft
11/11/23 4:40:15 AM
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Sega9599 posted...
I love it when citizens of the United States pretend they represent all of America by calling themselves Americans. And when they pretend the European market is and has always been inconsequential to the industry of gaming.

Aye they can't accept that Europe especially The United Kingdom is the THIRD biggest gaming region in the world. Always has been.

Guide posted...
I think you should see someone about this.

Sorry but it makes my blood boil when trolls/fanboys come along and make flopics like this just to start a war and not coming back to read the comments that have been posted.

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Guide
11/11/23 4:41:01 AM
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CassandraCroft posted...


Sorry but it makes my blood boil when trolls/fanboys come along and make flopics like this just to start a war and not coming back to read the comments that have been posted.

This is only reaffirming the necessity of my previous statement.

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Ricemills
11/11/23 4:44:11 AM
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Incredible posted...
Imagine if the Playstation never came out

Arcade scene would still thrive.
Yea I'd prefer that over what we have now.

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Fenriswolf
11/11/23 4:55:22 AM
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LOL Kamen_Rider_Blade

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Dark_Arbron
11/11/23 4:59:26 AM
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Still dont understand how corporate manufacturers and products who dont give a fuck about their consumers can have fanboys.

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Zikten
11/11/23 5:00:33 AM
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If PS1 never was made, I think that

1. Sega would have kept making consoles and competing with Nintendo

2. I dont think xbox would have come about. I think Microsoft got inspired to join the console business by the playstation

Basically, in 2023 we would still just be in an eternal nintendo vs sega war. Nintendo consoles never would gone the wii route. No need for them to do gimmicks if they aren't being threatened by Sony and Microsoft. And Saturn and dreamcast would have been more successful, since they were only battling 1 rival
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