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GranzonEx
11/27/23 5:48:08 PM
#401:


swordz9 posted...
Always a joy to see Granzon post
lmao

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MartinFF7
11/27/23 6:04:27 PM
#402:


GranzonEx posted...
Madoka fans deserve to suffer as much as the girls in the anime

my man

KommunistKoala posted...
https://youtu.be/X_SnV_SdO4k

dandadan anime HYPE

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trailer definitely drew me in and a quick wiki synopsis check has me interested - might just end up watching this when it airs! thanks for sharing.
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KamikazePotato
11/27/23 6:19:03 PM
#403:


I have issues with Dandadan, but I'm happy for its fans, and a good anime adaptation should be able to highlight the series' strengths.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/27/23 6:35:52 PM
#404:


There are parts of Dandadan that are pretty slow in manga form, at least when reading weekly, due to the lavish spreads taking up pages. I think an anime will definitely deal with that issue.

It's the same thing I expect will happen in some later Chainsaw Man episodes, where some of the chapters could take up 2ish minutes anime screentime.

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Robazoid
11/28/23 5:31:09 AM
#405:


Continuing my journey to try and catch up on 2023 anime, I watched Too Cute Crisis. Aliens want to destroy Earth, but they decide to do some reconnaissance first just to check if there's anything valuable here. Then Liza, the head researcher, discovers that cats are the cutest animals in the universe!

In a lot of ways, this was a pretty one-note comedy. Aliens encounter animal, animal is dangerously cute, aliens freak out at the cuteness. It should have gotten old by the second episode. Somehow it didn't, though! I enjoyed this anime the whole way through. It helped that the show managed to portray the animals as legitimately cute, so usually I was going "omfg that's so cute" right there alongside them. It covered lots of different animals, but particular attention was paid to cats (for obvious reasons, cats are the best). As a cat lover myself, they did a really good job showcasing all their feline charms. Yozora the cat was always adorable, even when he was being needy, moody, or acting like a menace. Sometimes a cat sits on your face at night, other times they ignore you when you want to play. All of those things are part of what make cats great, and I had a lot of fun watching the aliens appreciate it too.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/28/23 11:45:33 PM
#406:


https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1729708129506459994?s=19

Thank God it didn't get Biscuit Hammer'd.

This isn't Mizukami's best work by any means, but it's still good and is probably his most commercially safe to get people into him.

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Robazoid
11/29/23 2:12:02 AM
#407:


I watched the first episode of Yuri is My Job and I've never been so instantly infuriated by an anime. A girl gets blackmailed into working at a yuri-themed cafe, but then they don't train her on any of the rules or... well, anything. Then they proceed to get angry at her when she doesn't know how to act in the little stage plays the other waitresses put on for customers. Like, the whole episode was just nonstop cringe moments and bad feelings. I've always given anime at least two to three episodes before dropping them, but I struggled just to finish one episode for this show so I think I'm done. What bugs me is that MAL lists one of the genres as "comedy", but I checked the episode's discussion topic on the anime board and someone there said "Ive read the manga and it is definitely not. It is heavy drama, not a comedy". I wouldn't have even started it if I knew that beforehand! Now it's going to sit there in my dropped list, bothering me forever.

Nuts to this, I'm going to start Dead Mount Death Play instead.

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ivysnow
11/29/23 2:35:56 AM
#408:


two things: it's really only one of the girls that gives the protag a hard time, and it's actually very plot and character relevant why she does so

obviously if it gave you bad feelings don't continue, but i think it's worth giving til like, episode 4? that's when the meat of things is really revealed. it's also a mix of comedy and drama and very Real wrt the characters and their various weird hangups. it's not light per-se but not always heavy either, imo?

just giving my thoughts as someone who went in with no expectations
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Mobilezoid
11/29/23 5:43:28 AM
#409:


I might give it another chance at some point. There is clearly more depth to the characters than what they started with. I know not to judge an entire series off of one episode. I just have a super low tolerance for the kind of cringe moments that were in that first episode. Main girl's inability to take a hint, coupled with everyone else refusing to explain anything and then getting angry when she inevitably failed, was a bad combination. I already work a crappy job, I don't want to watch one in fiction! I also already have people here thinking I'm anti-yuri (even though nothing could be further from the truth). I should probably stop here rather than watching Yuri is my Job and then ranting about it later. I was honestly just expecting the typical "cute girls work in a cafe with light yuri teasing" show based on the description, like Is the Order a Rabbit except gayer. I didn't want a drama!

On the plus side regarding yuri, there's a one-episode OVA on Crunchyroll called Kase-san and the Morning Glories. The description says the two girls are already dating, and neither one looks like a horrible person. It's too late to watch it now, but I will tomorrow night! Hopefully this will finally be a yuri anime I can enjoy, even if only for one hour-long episode.

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MacArrowny
11/29/23 8:21:07 AM
#410:


The Kase anime has kind of a surreal feel to it IIRC

ivysnow posted...
it's also a mix of comedy and drama
I highly disagree with this

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SockoressKnight
11/29/23 9:28:40 AM
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I suppose the comedy is supposed to come from the disconnect between how Hime perceives her facade as effective and how it actually fails most of the time. Also (personally) howafter Hime and Mitsuki reconcile, due to the difference in their heights, Hime's face is always in Mitsuki's boobs when Mitsuki gets flustered and hugs her. That said, it is 100% a drama, and the next arc is worse all around. Just cut your losses and don't worry about it. Just watch Kase-san. It's much more chill, but I don't think being a single episode OVA benefits it's slice of life nature.

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Sceptilesolar
11/29/23 9:49:27 AM
#412:


Yuri is my Job is a romance drama, with a few jokes. But the drama is constantly at the forefront. I happen to enjoy messy romance drama, so I like it a lot. Show me two people who love each other in a stable relationship and I'll quickly make my exit.

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MacArrowny
11/29/23 9:53:19 AM
#413:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Yuri is my Job is a romance drama, with a few jokes. But the drama is constantly at the forefront. I happen to enjoy messy romance drama, so I like it a lot. Show me two people who love each other in a stable relationship and I'll quickly make my exit.
Ore Monogatari!! >>>

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WhiteLens
11/29/23 11:41:58 AM
#414:


Mobilezoid posted...
On the plus side regarding yuri, there's a one-episode OVA on Crunchyroll called Kase-san and the Morning Glories. The description says the two girls are already dating, and neither one looks like a horrible person. It's too late to watch it now, but I will tomorrow night! Hopefully this will finally be a yuri anime I can enjoy, even if only for one hour-long episode.

Just know that you'd be watching something like the middle of the story. So you miss out on all the build-up that happened in the manga.

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pjbasis
11/29/23 11:43:35 AM
#415:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
This isn't Mizukami's best work by any means, but it's still good and is probably his most commercially safe to get people into him.

I watched that biscuit hammer anime all the way through because the story was strong. Give me more.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/29/23 11:47:46 AM
#416:


The fact that people could still watch and enjoy that $14.37 hobo adaptation just goes to show how good the man is. You should watch Planet With if you haven't (I'm speaking out of my ass here because I haven't watched it yet but I have been ASSURED it's up to his standards) and I stroooooongly recommend reading Spirit Circle.

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pyresword
11/29/23 12:53:36 PM
#417:


I also dropped Yuri is My Job after 1 or 2 episodes and didn't care for it much.

For Kase-san I only read the manga and it was a bit of an odd case. It had a solid foundation but as things went on it really felt like the story was treading water and reusing conflicts even when there was little justification to do so. That seems like an issue that could be totally sidestepped by an anime OVA though so it might be quite good.

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Strife2
11/29/23 1:44:04 PM
#418:


I watched one episode of Concrete Revultio and wondered if its a cool zany idea I want to stick with or a confusing mess I can't follow and don't want to bother.

I am so confused.

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ivysnow
11/29/23 3:54:04 PM
#419:


perhaps my sense of humor is just demented
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Sceptilesolar
11/29/23 3:56:49 PM
#420:


Strife2 posted...
I watched one episode of Concrete Revultio and wondered if its a cool zany idea I want to stick with or a confusing mess I can't follow and don't want to bother.

I am so confused.

It's really clever but also you need to have an incredible knowledge of both early manga history and also post-WWII/Cold War Japanese politics.

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pjbasis
11/30/23 12:48:20 AM
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Yup all complete

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Robazoid
11/30/23 2:17:53 AM
#423:


Okay, now I have watched Kase-san and Morning Glories. I'm sad this was only single hour-long episode, because if it were a full series it would easily rank among my favorites. There was a good opening montage that caught me up on stuff that happened beforehand, but it would've been fun to actually see all those little moments firsthand.

Having said that, it was also kind of nice that Kase and Yamada were already dating when this started. I feel like 99% of anime romances end the instant the lovers get together, and that has always bothered me. There is still so much potential for character growth even without the whole question of will-they-or-won't-they. This anime is an excellent example of that, too. It explored things like how much attention they should pay towards each other now that their relationship has gone beyond friendship. Differing expectations on the pacing of physical intimacy. What might become of their relationship after they graduate high school. All of that stuff was amazing.

Seeing two characters learn about each other, and about themselves... this is the stuff I enjoy about romance stories! Not toxic drama or pushy love rivals or sustained misunderstandings. Kase-san and the Morning Glories had none of that, and it was still enthralling. It had all the heartwarming moments one would expect from two people exploring a new relationship. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows either, though. It had little bits of drama, but all of it was natural. And, since Kase and Yamada were both good people trying to do their best, all of the drama was handled well.

Hopefully someday I'll find a full-length yuri anime romance that can follow this show's example!

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SockoressKnight
11/30/23 10:01:54 AM
#424:


Established relationship romance anime are uncommon as it is. Throw in the caveat of it being yuri? I mean, there is Sakura Trick but....

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UshiromiyaEva
11/30/23 10:04:42 AM
#425:


Maybe watch Nanoha. Nanoha fans LOVE Nanoha. I have never seen Nanoha.

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Xeybozn
11/30/23 10:31:49 AM
#426:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Maybe watch Nanoha. Nanoha fans LOVE Nanoha. I have never seen Nanoha.

Isn't that the one where the two main girls are obviously married in the later seasons but the creators insist they're just friends? That doesn't really sound like a great show to watch for romance.

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Reg
11/30/23 10:57:19 AM
#427:


Nanoha definitely shows its age with regard to "romance" aspects, and is not a good watch for that.

It is, however, quite good in general.
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UshiromiyaEva
11/30/23 11:02:55 AM
#428:


I watched a bunch of OPs for it for the first time ever after posting that, and it looks like it's one of those series that gradually increases all the character's ages with every season and I'm a sucker for that.

Not sure about the art in this Vivid season though.

I feel like this show is in the exact same category as Symphogear for longform multi-season 2000s magical girl adjacent show I missed out on by being an insecure teenager.

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MacArrowny
11/30/23 11:04:47 AM
#429:


Nanoha doesn't have actual romance, but the main pair is pretty easily shippable, and it's highly implied.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
I watched a bunch of OPs for it for the first time ever after posting that, and it looks like it's one of those series that gradually increases all the character's ages with every season and I'm a sucker for that.

Not sure about the art in this Vivid season though.

Vivid is bad.

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Reg
11/30/23 11:33:57 AM
#430:


Despite me just praising the series, everything Nanoha after Strikers is bad (Movies excepted, I guess)
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Mobilezoid
11/30/23 4:02:03 PM
#431:


I've kept an eye out for Nanoha since I started watching anime, but sadly it isnt streaming anywhere. Maybe someday!

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UshiromiyaEva
11/30/23 7:08:57 PM
#432:


Ahhh I don't have to be watching to know which JJK episode just hit.

I really think this decision was an enormous mistake.

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Maniac64
11/30/23 8:09:12 PM
#433:


I'm still not spoiled so I'm going to avoid this topic for a while jic

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pjbasis
11/30/23 10:38:37 PM
#434:


I'll take being a little too ballsy over a little too tame for a story

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UshiromiyaEva
11/30/23 10:50:27 PM
#435:


pjbasis posted...
I'll take being a little too ballsy over a little too tame for a story

But he'd already gotten ballsy. He was full balls up to this point. This was adding a 3rd ball!

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pjbasis
12/01/23 12:33:21 AM
#436:


Nah Nanami dying is too obvious. It makes you feel safe that this was "the" death of the arc. You have to go further to be ballsy these days.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/23 12:41:17 AM
#437:


Not even getting into Gege's current reputation about how he treats his female characters, I don't think the shock value is worth removing one of only 3 non-antagonist characters that I think are even good in the entire cast of JJK anymore up until the point I dropped it. It's not like it was entirely on her shoulders, but it's certainly a contributing reason to why I think that JJK was fucking terrible for a solid 2 years after that other than the Zenin arc, which was absolutely baffling after putting out one of the single greatest arcs I've ever seen in a modern, or even older, Shounen.

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Robazoid
12/01/23 4:26:10 AM
#438:


I'm caught up on Dead Mount Death Play now. It's really good! Reverse-isekai necromancer is a great premise. I really like all the crazy characters and competing factions he's getting entangled with, too. There are times where it almost feels like there's too much going on to keep track of, but all of it is interesting. It's weaving an exciting plot and I'm always excited to see where it goes next. It does a good job mixing in some comedy moments too, particularly with Misaki. She's always doing something zany.

I didn't mention it here, but I also got caught up on Ragna Crimson recently. It's less good than DMDP, but still good! It's about dragon hunting in an incredibly dark fantasy world, but the premise also has a lot of spoilery twists.

Between Dead Mount Death Play, Ragna Crimson, and Helck, this is a great season for fantasy anime.

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swordz9
12/01/23 6:28:36 AM
#439:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TtwBgQ82Pls&pp=ygUUaXNla2FpIHN1aWNpZGUgc3F1YWQ%3D

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/23 8:44:42 AM
#440:


Peacemaker.....

I will sacrifice a foot if it means we get John Cena in an anime dub.

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PeaceFrog
12/01/23 10:16:50 AM
#441:


Re: jjk

the shock value of it, sure fine... taking out one of the three "all in the same year and special" characters is definitely unexpected. I really see now what a manga reader meant when they said that the way certain characters are discarded felt cheap. I'll keep watching and am interested in the story and the world, but it's hard to see how the emotional payoff will be worth it.

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SHINE_GET_64
12/01/23 10:18:33 AM
#442:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Peacemaker.....

I will sacrifice a foot if it means we get John Cena in an anime dub.

how to get SHINE to watch an Isekai

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KamikazePotato
12/01/23 10:18:38 AM
#443:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Not even getting into Gege's current reputation about how he treats his female characters, I don't think the shock value is worth removing one of only 3 non-antagonist characters that I think are even good in the entire cast of JJK anymore up until the point I dropped it. It's not like it was entirely on her shoulders, but it's certainly a contributing reason to why I think that JJK was fucking terrible for a solid 2 years after that other than the Zenin arc, which was absolutely baffling after putting out one of the single greatest arcs I've ever seen in a modern, or even older, Shounen.
This plot point actually prevented me from getting into JJK, and based on the stuff that came after I made the right call.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/23 10:22:16 AM
#444:


It's such an absurd move that there are still people to this day who think it's a bait and switch based on absolutely nothing other than it was just too bad a decision to have actually happened.

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GranzonEx
12/01/23 10:57:55 AM
#445:


Gege thinks he's writing Berserk where suffering leads to character development. Except he forgot about that development part and only does the suffering with shock value part.

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MacArrowny
12/01/23 10:59:20 AM
#446:


Robazoid posted...
I'm caught up on Dead Mount Death Play now. It's really good! Reverse-isekai necromancer is a great premise. I really like all the crazy characters and competing factions he's getting entangled with, too. There are times where it almost feels like there's too much going on to keep track of, but all of it is interesting. It's weaving an exciting plot and I'm always excited to see where it goes next. It does a good job mixing in some comedy moments too, particularly with Misaki. She's always doing something zany.

I didn't mention it here, but I also got caught up on Ragna Crimson recently. It's less good than DMDP, but still good! It's about dragon hunting in an incredibly dark fantasy world, but the premise also has a lot of spoilery twists.

Between Dead Mount Death Play, Ragna Crimson, and Helck, this is a great season for fantasy anime.
I watched the first season of DMDP, and yeah, it's a heck of a lot of fun. Great cast.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/23 11:03:25 AM
#447:


I finished all of S1 for DMDP and it's solid, but a couple episodes into S2 I decided to just drop it and read the manga instead at some point. Just didn't really feel like the anime was doing anything for the material compared to the other Narita shows.

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pjbasis
12/01/23 1:00:22 PM
#448:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
It's such an absurd move that there are still people to this day who think it's a bait and switch based on absolutely nothing other than it was just too bad a decision to have actually happened.

Eh whatever go back to your no stakes idol shows or some sht

she's alive I swear

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UshiromiyaEva
12/01/23 1:03:38 PM
#449:


Never lose that hope my friend. I held on to for over a year, giving up provided no relief.

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Bane_Of_Despair
12/01/23 1:06:14 PM
#450:


As an anime only watcher right now who is now 2 weeks behind I'm scared

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