Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 4 (Remake)

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Godbe-Bryant
10/29/23 2:39:43 AM
#101:


Yeah, I think I covered all that.

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streamofthesky
10/29/23 2:42:30 AM
#102:


Cheater87 posted...
How?
Progressives decide to sit out the election, allowing Republicans into power so we can have "Hamas At Home"?
That's the best reasoning I got... Only group that Biden could lose voters over this.

punkfanalways posted...
When was the last time a president of the US was on the front lines?
When was the last time a US president encouraged American civilians to die so they could be nifty propaganda images for the international media?

Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Jesus that is a lot of dead...Israel is being irresponsibly reckless and malovolent towards civilian casualties.

In regards to Russia's comments...Bet Israel is really feeling stupid for not joining in the sanctions against Russia now.
Russia criticizing anyone is rich....richer than Putin.

And this is how it was historically. Israel vs. Arabs was another cold war proxy front. US supported Israel, Russia backed its neighbors.
Israel, whether you think it was wise or not, was trying to establish ties w/ Russia so they WOULDN'T back their enemies against them anymore. I'm sure Netanyahu being right-wing and thus liking Putin had something to do w/ it. Hardly the only right-wing leader to get cozy w/ Putin.
Now that Russia was likely behind the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust...I'm assuming those peace overtures are gone and the old battle lines are being redrawn for the new "cold war" (if it can even be called that at this point). NATO/Ukraine/Israel/Japan/South Korea/Taiwan vs. China/Russia/Iran/NK. Among other countries.

Dude is too much of a coward bitch to walk his talk. Just sends his rabid dogs to do it for him while he chills in rich ass Qatar.

Fucking piece of shit belongs in hell.
Hopefully Mossad sends him to hell one day soon.
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Foppe
10/29/23 3:27:02 AM
#103:


Seems like communications are back again

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VFalcone
10/29/23 3:44:27 AM
#104:


  • Israel's smaller-scale incursions instead of a massive invasion may have to do with U.S persuasion to not do so. https://twitter.com/Apex_WW/status/1718425586027176277
Info shared by the IDF:
IDF: The IDF struck over 450 terror targets during the past day; IDF forces continue to expand ground activities

During the past day, IDF fighter jets struck over 450 military targets belonging to the Hamas terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip, including operational command centers, observation posts, and anti-tank missile launch posts.

As part of the expansion of ground activities, combined combat forces struck terrorist cells that attempted to attack the forces and terrorist cells that planned to carry out anti-tank missile launches. In addition, the ground forces directed IDF aircraft toward terror targets.

Overnight, an IDF officer was severely injured due to being hit by a mortar shell in the northern Gaza Strip. In addition, an IDF soldier was moderately injured while engaging with terrorists in the northern Gaza Strip. The officer and soldier were evacuated to a hospital to receive medical treatment. Their families have been notified.

Attached is a video of the strikes: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/d085526d-049e-4f4a-8c57-94ec9f46b82b

Attached is a video of the expansion of ground activities: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/e88dc3ca-e904-4c1d-967c-8827968c0de7
Whether the 450 military targets were actually all military is up in the air considering what the IDF will consider as a military target can be many things. Like a media owner's family
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Evil_Nice_Guy
10/29/23 5:07:57 AM
#105:


I wonder, have neo-Nazis ever shown up at any of these pro-Palestine protests? Because if God forbid that ever happens, I hope the pro-Palestine protesters tell those neo-Nazis to fuck right off and that they do NOT want the same things.
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UnfairRepresent
10/29/23 10:14:42 AM
#106:


David Schwimmer gives his thoughts:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/3/AAZiH8AAE_Bj.png

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ScazarMeltex
10/29/23 10:21:58 AM
#107:


UnfairRepresent posted...
David Schwimmer gives his thoughts:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/3/AAZiH8AAE_Bj.png
He's absolutely correct. Though there are those in this topic who would call his response anti-semitic because it acknowledges Israel's war crimes without voicing full throated support of them.

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DnDer
10/29/23 11:29:39 AM
#108:


UnfairRepresent posted...
David Schwimmer gives his thoughts:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/3/AAZiH8AAE_Bj.png

Original link, for sharing around?

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punkfanalways
10/29/23 11:32:03 AM
#109:


streamofthesky posted...
When was the last time a US president encouraged American civilians to die so they could be nifty propaganda images for the international media?

I stand by what I said in post 86.
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ZechtAurion
10/29/23 1:37:50 PM
#110:


https://twitter.com/IntlCrimCourt/status/1718661091155161172
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ZechtAurion
10/29/23 1:42:27 PM
#111:


https://twitter.com/ofirgendelman/status/1718648631383781616

Absolutely disgusting.
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VFalcone
10/29/23 2:17:21 PM
#112:


  • Gazans have broken into aid centers and begun to loot food and supplies as the war reaches week 3. UN states that they can confirm that 59 United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) workers have been killed by bombings but many more are still missing. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazans-break-into-aid-centres-taking-flour-supplies-un-says-2023-10-29/
  • A handful of Israelis moderately injured after Hamas rocket hits apartment building in Tel Aviv. https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-770634
  • Airstrikes from Hezbollah are picking up https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1718663161258078628 and https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1718641466980134994
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ZechtAurion
10/29/23 2:25:07 PM
#113:


Gazans have broken into aid centers and begun to loot food and supplies as the war reaches week 3. UN states that they can confirm that 59 United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) workers have been killed by bombings but many more are still missing. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gazans-break-into-aid-centres-taking-flour-supplies-un-says-2023-10-29/

So, when are they going to announce Israel is a rogue state?
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Carljank
10/29/23 2:29:07 PM
#114:


My post from another thread:

If Israel really wants to defeat hamas, why not more ops rather than indiscriminately killing Palestinians?

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/25/analysis-why-hasnt-israel-launched-a-ground-invasion-of-gaza-yet

They promised a ground invasion?

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VFalcone
10/29/23 2:31:20 PM
#115:


ZechtAurion posted...
https://twitter.com/ofirgendelman/status/1718648631383781616

Absolutely disgusting.
Here's the context as to why this post is bad. For those who don't want to click
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Carljank posted...
My post from another thread:

If Israel really wants to defeat hamas, why not more ops rather than indiscriminately killing Palestinians?

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/25/analysis-why-hasnt-israel-launched-a-ground-invasion-of-gaza-yet

They promised a ground invasion?
The US is trying to hold them off
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Foppe
10/29/23 4:05:48 PM
#116:


Russian mob attacks plane from Israel in Dagestan
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/10/29/anti-israeli-mob-storms-airport-in-russias-dagestan-a82926

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PballDepot
10/29/23 4:13:55 PM
#117:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
I wonder, have neo-Nazis ever shown up at any of these pro-Palestine protests?

No, they've been supporting Israel.

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VFalcone
10/29/23 7:26:05 PM
#118:


  • 8,005 Palestinians dead, 20,240 injured (WaPo and other sources) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/29/israel-war-hamas-gaza-news-palestine/
  • 114 Palestinians dead in West Bank (CNN) https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-29-23/h_fe47a69d980acac65e4e634a9f22c6a5
  • [Unconfirmed Breaking] "i24news alert: Missiles directed from Yemen to Eilat have been intercepted - report."
Yemen getting involved?
  • Footage of unrest in Dagestan https://twitter.com/araratpetrosian/status/1718699831261028431 and https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1718686535514456105 and https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1718683535794389018
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Fenriswolf
10/29/23 9:30:00 PM
#119:


UnfairRepresent posted...
David Schwimmer gives his thoughts:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/3/AAZiH8AAE_Bj.png

Based AF

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VFalcone
10/30/23 2:34:38 AM
#120:


  • [Unconfirmed] Israeli forces storming the West Bank? But why? https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1718787771312361634
  • Here they are also destroying a gate to a refugee camp. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1718843876226498788
Strange turn of events...
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Foppe
10/30/23 5:14:54 AM
#121:


Reports of Israel tanks shooting at any vehicle they see moving.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/30/israel-hamas-war-live-palestinian-death-toll-gaza-rises-above-8000

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Karovorak
10/30/23 5:55:36 AM
#122:


Shani Louk, the german girl that was paraded on that truck got declared dead after fragments of her skull were found:

Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead, her family announces

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12687753/

I would like to link something else instead of dailymail, but I wasn't able to find any other english article about this by now, only german ones.

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Vyrulisse
10/30/23 6:12:00 AM
#123:


ZaruenKosai posted...
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231028-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-health-ministry-in-hamas-run-gaza-says-war-deaths-exceed-8-000

The amount of Palestinians that have died during the conflict has surpassed 8000 and we will most likely see it rise exponentially over the next few days.
Especially since First Aid will not be able to reach them, and after they have had power cut throughout the region, I can only suspect, the worse is yet to come.
It's going to be much worse. Israel is levelling entire neighborhoods without concern for civilians despite what their spokespeople are saying all over media.

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VFalcone
10/30/23 6:14:27 AM
#124:


  • [Part 1] Black Hebrew Israelites clash against Pro-Palestine supporters https://streamable.com/cj9zli
  • [Part 2] Black Hebrew Israelites and Pro-Palestine supporters fight in large brawl. https://streamable.com/vlheyz
  • Palestinians in West Bank pelt massive Israeli bulldozers with rocks and other objects as they destroy parts of the city https://streamable.com/beej9j
  • Man manages to pull off Israeli flag from the UN headquarters https://streamable.com/81atgl
  • Psychopath who loves Hamas calls for the genocide of Israelis https://streamable.com/wlgjkj
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Foppe
10/30/23 7:19:39 AM
#125:


Have Israel said anything about why they started to rumble around in the West Bank again?

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UnfairRepresent
10/30/23 8:23:57 AM
#126:


DnDer posted...
Original link, for sharing around?
it's on his insta

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name_unknown
10/30/23 12:55:22 PM
#127:


Hamas releases new hostage video showing 3 women
From CNNs Eyad Kourdi, Lianne Kolirin, Amir Tal, Hadas Gold, Adam Levine, Stephanie Halasz and Richard Allen Greene
Hamas on Monday released a short video showing three women who are believed to be captives held by the Palestinian militant group since its terror attack on Israel on October 7.
The hostage video is only the second released by Hamas since more than 200 people were taken into Gaza. It appears as intended to undermine Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with pointed criticism over his leadership by the detained women.
The video shows them seated in plastic chairs facing the camera, while the woman in the middle addresses Netanyahu directly with increasing fury.
She makes reference to a press conference by families of the hostages yesterday, suggesting it was filmed on Monday.
The video comes just days after progress in hostage negotiations fell through, a fact referenced by the speaker who mentions a supposed ceasefire. Israeli leaders Friday dismissed talks of a breakthrough in talks as a rumor as they announced an expansion of the ground campaign.
The woman speaks fluently and does not appear to be reading from a script, but because the women are hostages, the statement could have been made under duress.
You promised to release us all, she says, suggesting she is aware of hostage negotiations. She finishes with a demand to free us all, screaming: Now! Now! Now!
Relatives of the hostages have named the women as Elena Trupanov, Danielle Alony and Ramon Kirsht. Aloni is the speaker.
The women do not show visible signs of physical mistreatment, but CNN is unable to verify anything about their circumstances or well-being.
Netanyahus office confirmed the names in a brief statement, addressing the women, "who were kidnapped by Hamas who commits war crimes."
"I hug you. Our hearts go out to you and the other abductees. We are doing everything to bring all the kidnapped and missing people home," the office statement read.
Israeli television channels 11 and 12 are showing a still from the video on air. Channel 13 is not, saying on air it is honoring a request from the relatives.
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name_unknown
10/30/23 12:57:45 PM
#128:


The US is working to send a strong message of deterrence to Iran as concerns of a wider regional conflict escalate, the White House said Monday.
Were certainly going to act if we have to to continue to protect our troops and our facilities. We have proven that we will strike and act to do that. And that's a strong message that Iran needs to take away. We take those responsibilities seriously, said John Kirby, National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications.
We also take our national security interest writ large in the region very seriously, which is why the president has now employed two aircraft carrier strike groups We've got to make sure we send a signal to all actors, not just Iran, but all actors, certainly Iran included, that we will take our national security interest very seriously. We will protect and defend our troops. And we'll do it at a time in a manner of our choosing, he told CNN.
Remember: Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi said Sunday that Israel has "crossed the red lines" and it "may force everyone to take action." There are concerns that Israel's fierce military campaign in Gaza will open up more fronts. There are already crossfire exchanges on northern Israel and southern Lebanon border separate from Israel's fighting with Hamas farther south, which is centered around Gaza. But an uptick in clashes with Hezbollah has raised fears that the powerful Lebanese paramilitary group could actively participate in the conflict. It comes as the US national security adviser warned of an "elevated risk" of the war expanding into a broader Middle East conflict.
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ZechtAurion
10/30/23 1:13:53 PM
#129:


name_unknown posted...
Hamas releases new hostage video showing 3 women

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17ju4vl/hamas_published_a_recording_of_israeli_hostages/
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Fenriswolf
10/30/23 1:25:25 PM
#130:


streamofthesky posted...
Russia criticizing anyone is rich....richer than Putin.

Says the one who blamed the Afghans themselves for the return of the Taliban.

streamofthesky posted...
And this is how it was historically. Israel vs. Arabs was another cold war proxy front. US supported Israel, Russia backed its neighbors.
Israel, whether you think it was wise or not, was trying to establish ties w/ Russia so they WOULDN'T back their enemies against them anymore. I'm sure Netanyahu being right-wing and thus liking Putin had something to do w/ it. Hardly the only right-wing leader to get cozy w/ Putin.
Now that Russia was likely behind the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust...I'm assuming those peace overtures are gone and the old battle lines are being redrawn for the new "cold war" (if it can even be called that at this point). NATO/Ukraine/Israel/Japan/South Korea/Taiwan vs. China/Russia/Iran/NK. Among other countries.

Prove that Russia is behind Hamas. Oh wait you can't. Meanwhile we have plenty of evidence that Bibi considers Putin a personal friend and attacked the previous PM for criticising Russia, and there's also the fact that Russian immigrants are some of the biggest supporters of Likud.

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Carljank
10/30/23 2:44:50 PM
#131:


I wouldn't be surprised if either the US or Russia or both were funding hamas too perpetuate war.

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punkfanalways
10/30/23 3:05:53 PM
#132:


Labour suspend MP for referencing "anti-semetic" slogan. I didn't even realise that phrase was anti-semetic tbh but when you consider Israel is between "the river" and "the sea" it kinda makes sense.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-punish-senior-labour-mp-andy-mcdonald-river-sea-palestine-2721435
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Foppe
10/30/23 3:07:34 PM
#133:


Carljank posted...
I wouldn't be surprised if either the US or Russia or both were funding hamas too perpetuate war.
Wanna know who did fund Hamas?
Israel.

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name_unknown
10/30/23 3:39:22 PM
#134:


Netanyahu pushes back on criticism of civilian casualties in Gaza
From CNN's Kyle Blaine
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pushed back against the notion that Israel was inflicting collective punishment on the Palestinian people in its pursuit of Hamas, saying the group was preventing civilians from moving to the safe zone in southern Gaza.
Hamas is preventing them from leaving, keeping them in areas of conflict. So I think you should direct your questions to Hamas, Netanyahu told a reporter at a news conference Monday.
Netanyahu said Israel has been trying to prevent civilian casualties by calling for civilians in Gaza to move to a safe zone in the south and providing humanitarian support.
We have to do everything we can to minimize civilian causalities, but we cannot give up the fight, Netanyahu said, saying the future of his countries and other civilized countries depend on it.
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Sandalorn
10/30/23 3:59:40 PM
#135:


Believing Bibi is like believing Trump.

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Ferarri619
10/30/23 5:29:08 PM
#136:


Really sad about Shani Louk

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DarkAssassin89
10/30/23 5:36:16 PM
#137:


What are Black Hebrew Israelites? I dont know if this is something I should be googling.


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Trumble
10/30/23 5:36:57 PM
#138:


DarkAssassin89 posted...
What are Black Hebrew Israelites? I dont know if this is something I should be googling.
A black supremacist group who believes Black people are the real Jews.

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Starks
10/30/23 5:37:31 PM
#139:


DarkAssassin89 posted...
What are Black Hebrew Israelites? I dont know if this is something I should be googling.
It's a bunch of racist guys in Union Square and other places that will harass Jews while claiming to be the real Jews themselves.

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andel
10/30/23 5:50:43 PM
#140:


netanyahu is obviously inept and failed at the one thing he supposedly is in power to do, to keep israelis safe. he should be on trial for his corruption charges.

israel needs a competent leader to deal with this shit

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LeoRavus
10/30/23 5:51:00 PM
#141:


Starks posted...
It's a bunch of racist guys in Union Square and other places that will harass Jews while claiming to be the real Jews themselves.

Wonder why they care what's going on with the non-black Jews in Israel then

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Trumble
10/30/23 5:51:52 PM
#142:


LeoRavus posted...
Wonder why they care what's going on with the non-black Jews in Israel then
When have conspiracist nut types ever been consistent?

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Fenriswolf
10/30/23 6:07:18 PM
#143:


DarkAssassin89 posted...
What are Black Hebrew Israelites? I dont know if this is something I should be googling.

They hate Zionists AND Palestine supporters. They're to Judaism what the Nation of Islam is to Islam.

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Forty_Niners
10/30/23 6:14:13 PM
#144:


https://twitter.com/bentreyf/status/1719097954378633431

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punkfanalways
10/30/23 6:19:14 PM
#145:


I think the plan is to cut Gaza in half and take the half they take. The troops have gone as far as the large road separating east and west Palestine and I think this is where they draw the new borders.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/4/AAffeCAAE_SS.jpg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah_al-Din_Road

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Fenriswolf
10/30/23 6:21:07 PM
#146:


More and more people are getting fired for supporting Palestine. I don't recall any of the anti-BLM people getting treated this harshly.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/mccarthyite-backlash-response-to-criticism-of-israel-alarms-rights-groups

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ScazarMeltex
10/30/23 6:50:51 PM
#147:


Fenriswolf posted...
More and more people are getting fired for supporting Palestine. I don't recall any of the anti-BLM people getting treated this harshly.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/mccarthyite-backlash-response-to-criticism-of-israel-alarms-rights-groups
Yep, you either support the ethnic cleansing or find yourself unemployed or blacklisted. I wonder how all the "totally not right wing" free speech absolutists feel about thism

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legendary_zell
10/30/23 7:01:14 PM
#148:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Yep, you either support the ethnic cleansing or find yourself unemployed or blacklisted. I wonder how all the "totally not right wing" free speech absolutists feel about thism

Holy shit, that's really scary. One guy literally got attacked for saying war crimes are bad no matter who commits them. He said absolutely nothing wrong or anything that could be considered supportive of Hamas.

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DnDer
10/30/23 7:13:00 PM
#149:


andel posted...
netanyahu is obviously inept and failed at the one thing he supposedly is in power to do, to keep israelis safe. he should be on trial for his corruption charges.

israel needs a competent leader to deal with this shit

I worry that he's smart.

It's been pointed out to me, as I listen to the radio, more than once that Bibi has always needed Hamas and the threat of them to stay in power. As long as they're around, he can gesture and say, "See? Imagine how much worse it'd be without me. Only I can keep you safe!"

And as long as Bibi is around, Hamas can say, "Look, all he wants to do is eradicate Palestine!"

It's been a sympathetic relationship from the start. Unless he manages to completely erase Palestine and gets to play hero/conqueror, Netanyahu will always benefit from what Hamas is doing.

I'm not sure there's a big enough event to have him displaced from power?

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ScazarMeltex
10/30/23 8:26:05 PM
#150:


Just more video evidence of war crimes.
https://twitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1719122544395976892

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