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Blue_Inigo
10/22/23 8:56:46 AM
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That's crazy considering he's basically the most relatable and dopest superhero there is

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Glob
10/22/23 8:57:56 AM
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Some people arent into superheroes at all.
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Dark-Summoner
10/22/23 8:59:06 AM
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Idk, I find his powers kinda lame and his character is fine...but boring.

It's an unpopular opinion but it is what it is.
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R1masher
10/22/23 8:59:17 AM
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Relatable to you basically

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Vicious_Dios
10/22/23 9:06:59 AM
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Never bought into the Spiderman hype, myself.

I just didn't buy it.

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Blue_Inigo
10/22/23 10:48:20 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Never bought into the Spiderman hype, myself.

I just didn't buy it.

Dark-Summoner posted...
Idk, I find his powers kinda lame and his character is fine...but boring.

It's an unpopular opinion but it is what it is.
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FuriousFox
10/22/23 10:50:27 AM
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I'm indifferent about him. I always thought it was weird how the radioactive spider bite just gave him strength and perception, yet his iconic web-slinging ability is something he had to make himself.

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 10:52:01 AM
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Hes way more likeable than Batman (fascist) or even Superman (boring). Spidey is the kinda guy wholl spend just as much time giving an old lady directions or helping with her shopping as he does thwarting petty crime.

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cuttin_in_farm
10/22/23 10:53:36 AM
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FuriousFox posted...
I'm indifferent about him. I always thought it was weird how the radioactive spider bite just gave him strength and perception, yet his iconic web-slinging ability is something he had to make himself.

Organic web Spider-Man makes way more sense.

I dont think of smart inventor when I think Peter Parker, so that part of his character is stupid to me.

I also think it ruins his Im relatable schtick.

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FortuneCookie
10/22/23 11:26:53 AM
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The more of a political mouthpiece he becomes, the less relatable he becomes.
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gamestunner
10/22/23 11:27:51 AM
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I mean, I think Superman is a garbage "hero" character.

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Hayame_Zero
10/22/23 11:29:08 AM
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I thought he was kind of boring when I was a kid. When I was an adult, I realized his alter ego and personality has way more depth than most other superheroes.

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ssb_yunglink2
10/22/23 11:41:49 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Organic web Spider-Man makes way more sense.

I dont think of smart inventor when I think Peter Parker, so that part of his character is stupid to me.

I also think it ruins his Im relatable schtick.
Peter being a smart inventor is like integral to his character tho lol
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Torgo
10/22/23 11:43:48 AM
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You are not obligated to like fictional characters regardless of their popularity.

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Glob
10/22/23 11:44:09 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Peter being a smart inventor is like integral to his character tho lol

Its a part that comes up often, but Ive always preferred the versions of him where hes not.

Marvel has enough genius characters. Not only does he not need it but it makes it harder for him to be the broke everyman just struggling to get by that hes usually portrayed as.
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Lokison
10/22/23 11:45:13 AM
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When I was younger I didn't like that after all this time (even with a sliding timescale) his whole thing was being an emo-kid about Uncle Ben dying and thought he needed to nut up and shut up about it.

Then I got older and realized how great that character traits is. He's not "wallowing in the past" he's recognizing where he failed, in the biggest fuck up in his life (to him), and using that to motivate him. He's not just forgiving himself and going back to his old self. He works to make sure he never let's a mistake like that happen again.

His powers make little to no sense as "powers of a spider", but he developed the tools himself, showing how smart he is. He's an everyman, and that great. He works hard, he's smart, poor. He's awesome, and deals with very real issues.

Hardly relatable though when he's always getting really attractive woman to date him, getting rich once in a while, having people that unconditionally love him. He's almost a parents wet dream.

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 11:46:26 AM
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Torgo posted...
You are not obligated to like fictional characters regardless of their popularity.

Unless the GOP gets their way. Then youll be obligated to like Jesus (or rather their recursive fanfiction version of him).

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Cobra1010
10/22/23 11:50:15 AM
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Which is why I'm not even a comic reader and the xmen movies have been crap but my favourite is still wolverine.

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apocalyptic_4
10/22/23 12:24:32 PM
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I enjoyed his portrayal in the original spiderman trilogy but I was never a big fan of spiderman growing up even now. Same goes for the games I'm not in a rush to play the new game I'll wait for it to go on sale.

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Lord_Shadow
10/22/23 12:56:40 PM
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J Jona J doesn't seem to like him much as a character

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ClayGuida
10/22/23 12:58:25 PM
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Some people love Superman. Others hate Superman.

It makes sense. Not every character is for everyone, that's why there's such a wide variety of super heroes, so that way everyone has someone they can identify with.

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Tom_Joad
10/22/23 1:01:40 PM
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I don't like the Spiderman comics, even though I think Spiderman is a good character.

Because the comics just exist to shit on him every chance they can get.

After a while, you get sick of it.

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Baha05
10/22/23 1:03:29 PM
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I think sadly Linkara once put it best as to there being a problem with Spider-Man in comics where he isnt relatable and always basically being reset on a constant basis where the character never grows up.

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LinkPizza
10/22/23 1:07:34 PM
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Spider-Man is my favorite hero, tbh While Im not a fan of most, I like Spider-Man

FuriousFox posted...
I'm indifferent about him. I always thought it was weird how the radioactive spider bite just gave him strength and perception, yet his iconic web-slinging ability is something he had to make himself.

Apparently, his son can make organic webs

cuttin_in_farm posted...
Organic web Spider-Man makes way more sense.

I dont think of smart inventor when I think Peter Parker, so that part of his character is stupid to me.

I also think it ruins his Im relatable schtick.

Wasnt he always pretty smart. And I figured that the whole spider thing probably pushed him more into science

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Raikuro
10/22/23 1:10:25 PM
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Solo heroes in general get super boring. Prefer more group dynamics that allows for more story varieties.
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Anteaterking
10/22/23 1:12:58 PM
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My first "real" exposure to Spiderman was in the Tobey McGuire movies, which I enjoyed, so basically all the things that people don't like about that Spiderman are the things that I don't like about the "true" Spiderman.


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VeesMcGees
10/22/23 1:14:51 PM
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Hes too much of an everyman for him to be relatable to me. I still like him as a character though.

fwiw, I usually dont relate to characters in the media I consume.
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gatorsPENSbucs
10/22/23 1:16:43 PM
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Ive never been a fan. Never cared for the movies or anything really until the recent ones, Holland is a funny dude and the movies have worked.

But yah, I never cared for spiderman, isnt my type of person and never liked any of the girls involved either.

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supervaan
10/22/23 1:16:56 PM
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Tom_Joad posted...
I don't like the Spiderman comics, even though I think Spiderman is a good character.

Because the comics just exist to shit on him every chance they can get.

After a while, you get sick of it.


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lolife67
10/22/23 1:16:56 PM
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I don't really find him relatable at all. He has way too many issues/problems for me. And most of them are only because he's not really applying himself, even after all these years.
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sevihaimerej
10/22/23 1:49:39 PM
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I was more into anime as a child, I've always thought super heroes were kinda lame. Spider Man is especially lame though, his powers are just sticky gymnastics and the villains are all just angry nerds, makes for some pretty fun parkour in a video game but that's about it.
Dark_Arbron posted...
Hes way more likeable than Batman (fascist) or even Superman (boring)
I don't think Batman is supposed to be likable or relatable...but fascist? How?
Superman is boring af though, no argument there, his backstory was kinda compelling but Dragon Ball executed it way better


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tremain07
10/22/23 1:54:02 PM
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I used to enjoy Spider man before his suffering just became the easy way to write him and now Marvel just tortures the fuck out of him every book like he's never allowed to be happy ever and now that's starting to spread to other spiders even ones like miles, gwen, and miguel it feels cheap, cheap, lazy and boring especially because writing torture porn seems to have fooled people into thinking it's good or amazing writing.

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Jupiter
10/22/23 2:02:18 PM
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I lost all respect for him when I read the original Spider-Verse event with the Inheritors. Bro, literally got mad and freaked out at someone for temporarily killing one of the inheritors saying some wack shit like "we're heroes!! we don't kill!" despite the Inheritors having killed 100s if not 1000s of them already.

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tremain07
10/22/23 2:17:32 PM
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Honestly, superheroes as a whole is a flawed concept whenever you inject even the tiniest realism into it be it modern day surveillance state, the way people actually behave during a crisis or even level of mental instability required to willingly put yourself in harm's way to help people who don't give a damn about you at best and to try and maintain some semblance of a normal life while also doing this, many stories and even meta commentary like to bring up the main things

Being a superhero will inevitably make it impossible for you to maintain a job, a social life, personal relationships with friends, lovers or even acquaintances.

Being a superhero will cause tons of injuries, some of which you won't fully recover from
Being a superhero for years yet not seeing any actual results for your efforts will eventually affect your mental state. There's only so many times you can punch a bad guy put them in jail only for them to either escape and kill more people or despite that guy being put away another dozen or so will take their place and a person you saved yesterday may die the next day to them.

No wonder there's so many inverted stories about heroes giving way to cynicism, fascism ,depression, paranoia, guilt complexes, savior complexes, bitterness and outright resentment towards the world around them and people that inhabit it.

Just a tiny bit of realism and the superhero genre is a whirlwind of dark,drama and angst writing

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Axiom
10/22/23 2:18:23 PM
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His tendency to annoy villains with quips can be annoying to the viewer too
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Gobstoppers12
10/22/23 2:22:22 PM
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He's okay. He's not one of my favorites as a character, but he has some of the best video games ever made, superhero or otherwise.

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Blue_Inigo
10/23/23 2:16:03 PM
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Axiom posted...
His tendency to annoy villains with quips can be annoying to the viewer too
I love it

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Bishop_Hastur
10/23/23 11:41:33 PM
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Spidey has never been my favorite, but he's alright.

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Torgo
10/23/23 11:50:16 PM
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tremain07 posted...
Honestly, superheroes as a whole is a flawed concept whenever you inject even the tiniest realism into it be it modern day surveillance state, the way people actually behave during a crisis or even level of mental instability required to willingly put yourself in harm's way to help people who don't give a damn about you at best and to try and maintain some semblance of a normal life while also doing this, many stories and even meta commentary like to bring up the main things

Being a superhero will inevitably make it impossible for you to maintain a job, a social life, personal relationships with friends, lovers or even acquaintances.

Being a superhero will cause tons of injuries, some of which you won't fully recover from
Being a superhero for years yet not seeing any actual results for your efforts will eventually affect your mental state. There's only so many times you can punch a bad guy put them in jail only for them to either escape and kill more people or despite that guy being put away another dozen or so will take their place and a person you saved yesterday may die the next day to them.

No wonder there's so many inverted stories about heroes giving way to cynicism, fascism ,depression, paranoia, guilt complexes, savior complexes, bitterness and outright resentment towards the world around them and people that inhabit it.

Just a tiny bit of realism and the superhero genre is a whirlwind of dark,drama and angst writing

That's why Iron Man is essentially the most "realistic" and workable according to this breakdown.

His powers are technology based and due to his mechanical genius so he doesn't have to worry about frying a girlfriend with heat vision or breaking her in half during sex. He is incredibly rich and already protected/secure/detached from every day life because of his vast wealth. He is already used to a level of public life and celebrity. He is used to dealing with matters of state from his experience in defense contracting.

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nocturnal_traveler
10/23/23 11:54:49 PM
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tremain07 posted...
I used to enjoy Spider man before his suffering just became the easy way to write him and now Marvel just tortures the fuck out of him every book like he's never allowed to be happy ever and now that's starting to spread to other spiders even ones like miles, gwen, and miguel it feels cheap, cheap, lazy and boring especially because writing torture porn seems to have fooled people into thinking it's good or amazing writing.
That's why I haven't read a Spider-Man comic since I was a kid. I stick to the games and some of the tv shows.

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Torgo
10/23/23 11:56:06 PM
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Also, I like Wolverine a lot.

He's just cool and tough, and there's something about a nearly un-killable guy that can still get really hurt and fucked up and has to keep fighting. Invulnerable bricks like the Hulk and Superman just absorb and shrug off damage, but Wolverine bleeds and has bones break before they heal back up. You have to develop a superhuman tolerance for pain over the years.

He had his memories messed with, he was used by governments as an experimental weapon, he's lived a long time and has seen the world change on the scale of a vampire or elf...makes total sense he's a badass loner but also that he never totally loses his sense of human empathy even if it gets tested a lot.

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