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Tom_Joad 10/14/23 4:43:59 AM #1: |
Full Title: --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 10/14/23 4:46:55 AM #2: |
Looks like a lot of people think Israel equates to all Jews.
And in the same breath, say criticism of Israel (which they see as equalling all Jews) is not anti-Semitic. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DKBananaSlamma 10/14/23 4:57:01 AM #3: |
This Israel/Hamas thing is really bringing out the worst in a lot of people, huh >_>
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DerWillZurMacht 10/14/23 4:57:53 AM #4: |
Another heroic man put to the sword for his noble beliefs. I wish you luck in you lawsuit, sir. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 10/14/23 5:01:17 AM #5: |
"The IDF killing innocent civilians in Gaza for the crimes of Hamas is detestable. Now who here is Jewish? Gather your belongings and go stand in the corner in shame for what Israel has done." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 10/14/23 5:04:45 AM #6: |
I don't know why this person thought this would work out well for them. It wasn't a lesson so much as a moment of getting on one's soap box while bullying students, and not even having their facts straight all the while. The number of those killed in the holocaust was not six million but eleven million. Six million is the number of Jews who were murdered.
The instructor was a teaching assistant, not a faculty member. What a surprise. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 10/14/23 5:11:11 AM #7: |
targeting Jewish students as 'colonizers' No he didn't. Colonizers killed more than 6 million. Israel is a colonizer. He did not say Jewish students or Jews in general were colonizers, he used Jewish students to illustrate a point about Israel. Its still wrong, but the topic title is a complete lie. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 10/14/23 5:17:00 AM #8: |
Been a surprising/worrying amount of young American leftists using this event as an opportunity to say how they truly feel about Jewish people.
Feels like some weird bizarro world tbh. I've also seen quite a bit of white privilege coming out of this whole discussion as well, but not really that surprising from Americans at this point. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 10/14/23 5:19:51 AM #9: |
IceCreamOnStero posted...
No he didn't.When Jewish people have been historically been used by fascists as the target group for hate and bigotry, it's a little weird to make Jewish people the face of the "colonizer" in your class. It's literally fascism 101 to paint Jewish people as the secret group behind "what's wrong" with your country in order to drum up nationalistic pride to use against them later. Don't really understand how you all seem to miss that point. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 35, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 10/14/23 5:26:17 AM #10: |
PiOverlord posted...
Been a surprising/worrying amount of young American leftists using this event as an opportunity to say how they truly feel about Jewish people.What are they saying? Or are you confusing them calling out the actions of Israel's government as being the same as hating Jewish people? --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/14/23 5:43:08 AM #11: |
PiOverlord posted...
Don't really understand how you all seem to miss that point. The point is that he used Jewish students to make a point about Israel in his class. That was discriminatory and unacceptable. PiOverlord posted... it's a little weird to make Jewish people the face of the "colonizer" in your class. If it's somehow relevant to your class to talk about the Israel-Palestine conflict, it's not wrong or incorrect to describe Israel as colonizers. Just... don't make the Jewish students in your class stand in for Israel. That's bad. PiOverlord posted... It's literally fascism 101 to paint Jewish people as the secret group behind "what's wrong" with your country in order to drum up nationalistic pride to use against them later. I don't think anyone's going to argue against that. Soros and Protocols and lizard people and Hollywood are all deeply anti-semitic tropes and dogwhistles that shouldn't be repeated. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 10/14/23 5:46:54 AM #15: |
Yeah, no, that's fucking wrong. Making that point is fine; singling out Jewish students for it is not.
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masterbarf 10/14/23 5:58:26 AM #17: |
Why does antisemitism always sound like being Jewish in and of itself is the offense. Like people are always condemning Jews for ordinary shit like buying homes, having opinions, having a job, emigrating. Like we are secondary and are supposed to just lie back and eat what scraps fall to us. Anyway I'm going to colonize his mouth with my nuts and occupy his throat with my dick.
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mistymermaid 10/14/23 5:59:26 AM #18: |
PiOverlord posted...
Been a surprising/worrying amount of young American leftists using this event as an opportunity to say how they truly feel about Jewish people. I don't understand it at all. I was under the impression the right was the evil destroyer. But now people are accusing the LEFT of being antisemitic. Bizarro world yeah. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeesMcGees 10/14/23 5:59:29 AM #19: |
Referring to Israel as a colonizer state isn't a problem. How this instructor went about doing so absolutely was. The instructor singled out Jewish students. For the example, the instructor should've just used a few random students. Not condemning Hamas is also pretty trash. The Palestinians are people under apartheid in the homeland, but Hamas are terrorists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 10/14/23 6:05:42 AM #20: |
mistymermaid posted...
I don't understand it at all. I was under the impression the right was the evil destroyer. Anti-Semitism truly is a both sides phenomenon. Which would account for it's longevity, having survived for millennium. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 10/14/23 6:10:09 AM #21: |
Tom_Joad posted...
Anti-Semitism truly is a both sides phenomenon. Which would account for it's longevity, having survived for millennium. It really shatters my world view. Who can I root for? (the first person who tried to tell me this, was such an asshole I brushed it off) --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/14/23 6:14:27 AM #22: |
mistymermaid posted...
It really shatters my world view. Who can I root for? (the first person who tried to tell me this, was such an asshole I brushed it off) The only party you should be rooting for are the civilians caught up in both the IDFs indiscriminate bombing and Hamass indiscriminate kidnapping and murder. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 10/14/23 6:18:07 AM #23: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
The only party you should be rooting for are the civilians caught up in both the IDFs indiscriminate bombing and Hamass indiscriminate kidnapping and murder. That makes sense. Having no ties to the involved cultures or faiths, the region holds no particular significance to me. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 10/14/23 6:21:06 AM #24: |
mistymermaid posted...
That makes sense. Having no ties to the involved cultures or faiths, the region holds no particular significance to me.Even if you did have ties to any involved culture or faith, that doesn't change that Hamas are objectively extremely evil and the Israeli government / military are somehow even worse. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 10/14/23 6:42:09 AM #25: |
PiOverlord posted...
When Jewish people have been historically been used by fascists as the target group for hate and bigotry, it's a little weird to make Jewish people the face of the "colonizer" in your class. It's literally fascism 101 to paint Jewish people as the secret group behind "what's wrong" with your country in order to drum up nationalistic pride to use against them later. This didn't happen. Jews weren't addressef as colonisers, Israel were. The instructor should still lose his job for picking specifically Jewish students to represent Israel, --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gu-gohan 10/14/23 7:07:10 AM #26: |
PiOverlord posted...
Been a surprising/worrying amount of young American leftists using this event as an opportunity to say how they truly feel about Jewish people.Part of the problem is: Many people are unable or unwilling to understand, that conflicts don't always have "a good" and "a bad" side. They fail to put the history and several other aspects in the right context and see the bigger picture. They often let themselves manipulate into a "pro" or "against" stance by groups who follow their own interests. It's an social media phenomenon. --- Like: videogames, peaceful discussions, open-minded people Dislike: console wars, trolls, haters, review-bombing, bias ... Copied to Clipboard!
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majin_nemesis 10/14/23 7:45:19 AM #27: |
why are people like this? PiOverlord posted... Been a surprising/worrying amount of young American leftists using this event as an opportunity to say how they truly feel about Jewish people.criticizing the goverment of Israeal isn't the same as being agaisnt Jewish people for being jewish or do you also think that when people criticize Russia for attacking Ukraine they are also hating on all Russians? because they aren't ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 10/14/23 7:52:57 AM #28: |
Tom_Joad posted...
Looks like a lot of people think Israel equates to all Jews.A LOT of people on both sides of the conflict have gone mask off. The thing is I expect the Right to be human garbage. The Left is supposed to be the morally superior side. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 10/14/23 7:55:03 AM #29: |
IceCreamOnStero posted...
No he didn't.Open Anti-Senitism is okay if youre proving a point, gotcha. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PBusted 10/14/23 8:07:23 AM #30: |
Tom_Joad posted... Anti-Semitism truly is a both sides phenomenon. Which would account for it's longevity, having survived for millennium. I find it more apt to say that left wingers become right wingers when it comes to things they personally have issues with. It stings them more than "both sides" and doesn't make you look like you're justifying the right. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 10/14/23 8:28:43 AM #31: |
McMarbles posted...
Open Anti-Senitism is okay if youre proving a point, gotcha.What an insane strawman. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkace77450 10/14/23 8:38:40 AM #32: |
VeesMcGees posted... For the example, the instructor should've just used a few random students. This is a college course. If an instructor can't explain colonialism or apartheid without having students roleplay then they probably shouldn't be teaching the course. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 10/14/23 3:07:07 PM #35: |
Tom_Joad posted...
Anti-Semitism truly is a both sides phenomenon. Which would account for it's longevity, having survived for millennium. Extremism is a both sides phenomenon. Extremists on the left wind up being communists, extremists on the right wind up being fascists, and in both cases either way you allow for the possibility of being a racist. Thats not unique to antisemitism. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 10/14/23 3:31:25 PM #38: |
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Cruelty is cruelty. Hamas may well want to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory, but that doesn't make them not terrorists. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mistymermaid 10/14/23 3:34:26 PM #40: |
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Good point. --- Swimming over the barrier to protect my egg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 10/14/23 4:47:40 PM #41: |
It's strange that a Rabbi would single out his own to simp for the Palestinians. It's amazing how much some people's logic is twisted in knots to this much against thier own self interest. What's next a Black KKK professor?
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DKBananaSlamma 10/14/23 4:50:34 PM #42: |
mistymermaid posted...
Cruelty is cruelty. Hamas may well want to end the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory, but that doesn't make them not terrorists. There is certainly a lot of other things that do tho --- Neon >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 10/14/23 4:51:58 PM #43: |
Man even sharing the sentiment, thats crazy and teacher should be fired. Like how TF you think thats okay. Youre in academia, you should be neutral and just teach the history, but those kids have no fault of whats happening to Palestinians.
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McMarbles 10/14/23 7:01:29 PM #45: |
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Yes, Nazis are bad. Do you teach that by slapping students who happen to be of German descent? --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 10/14/23 7:03:52 PM #46: |
DKBananaSlamma posted...
There is certainly a lot of other things that do thoPlease proceed. What makes Hamas (yes, Hamas, notice we are not talking about Palestinians, they are as a whole just poor folks caught up in this shit) not terrorists? --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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runewalshPSiv 10/14/23 7:14:25 PM #47: |
McMarbles posted...
A LOT of people on both sides of the conflict have gone mask off. The thing is I expect the Right to be human garbage. The Left is supposed to be the morally superior side. The left just like the right is filled with hate too. --- There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, a state of bliss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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