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Antifar 10/08/23 4:38:13 PM #1: |
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/california-gov-gavin-newsom-vetoes-bill-aimed-at-limiting-the-price-of-insulin/ar-AA1hTjad
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) Gov. Gavin Newsom has vetoed a bill that would have stopped insurance companies from charging more than $35 for insulin. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJKirby 10/08/23 4:40:00 PM #2: |
Completely reasonable, these billion dollar pharmaceutical companies need to make massive profits too
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GrandConjuraton 10/08/23 4:40:12 PM #3: |
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chickenwings666 10/08/23 4:41:15 PM #4: |
Huh, thought that med already was ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 10/08/23 4:45:23 PM #5: |
So it looks like his justification is that they plan on releasing their own sort of brand of insulin for cheaper...but how does that help people in the meantime waiting for that to be viable enough for the whole state?
Let's leave not capping insulin prices to the sacks of shit that is all Republicans and Manchin, k thx. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/08/23 4:45:58 PM #7: |
Much like Americas gun problem, the way to fix the healthcare problem is actually less regulation (just like how less regulation on guns solves gun crime), despite the evidence to the contrary. Good on Newsom for preventing regulation ... Copied to Clipboard!
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obsolete 10/08/23 4:46:41 PM #8: |
what ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 10/08/23 4:49:42 PM #10: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Much like Americas gun problem, the way to fix the healthcare problem is actually less regulation (just like how less regulation on guns solves gun crime), despite the evidence to the contrary."despite the evidence to the contrary" --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 10/08/23 4:49:47 PM #11: |
Kradek posted...
How do you figure that "fixing the gun problem" involves less regulation when reality constantly demonstrates the opposite?Conservatroll --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/08/23 4:49:49 PM #12: |
Kradek posted... How do you figure that "fixing the gun problem" involves less regulation when reality constantly demonstrates the opposite?I meant the opposite of what I said. I thought the evidence to the contrary statement made that obvious given how false it was ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 10/08/23 4:50:14 PM #13: |
Newsom fuckin sucks
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Kradek 10/08/23 4:51:29 PM #14: |
Rika_Furude posted...
I meant the opposite of what I said. I thought the evidence to the contrary statement made that obvious given how false it was My bad, hari-kari'd my post to regain its honor. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 10/08/23 4:52:04 PM #15: |
not sure what them making a $30 generic has to do with good reason to veto the bill unless they think they will need to raise the price of their $30 generic so they don't want a law preventing it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agonized_rufous 10/08/23 4:53:59 PM #16: |
Maybe making a law calling prices on a private company's product would have had some legal trouble since they're trying to make their own version of the product
If it was just as easy as capping the price, why bother making your own version? --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itcheyness 10/08/23 4:54:37 PM #17: |
DarthAragorn posted...
Newsom fuckin sucksCoastal "progressives" are the most spineless, mealy mouthed, feckless losers in the world. --- Seattle Sounders 12-9-9 45pts 261 Refugee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 10/08/23 4:55:51 PM #18: |
Well if it isnt Veto Corleone at it again ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 10/08/23 4:57:23 PM #19: |
Thank God my insulin is free.
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Doe 10/08/23 4:58:21 PM #20: |
Why does California have a Republican governor
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GrandConjuraton 10/08/23 4:59:28 PM #21: |
Doe posted...
Why does California have a Republican governorThe future of the Democratic party is Republican, apparently. --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 10/08/23 5:03:01 PM #22: |
Newsom, a Democrat, said earlier this year that California would soon start making its own brand of insulin. The state has a $50 million contract with the nonprofit pharmaceutical company Civica Rx to manufacture the insulin under the brand CalRx. The state would sell a 10 milliliter vial of insulin for $30. seems reasonable sucks for the people dealing with it right this moment, but in the long run seems like the better option ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 10/08/23 5:03:14 PM #23: |
Doe posted... Why does California have a Republican governorThey dont ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Naysaspace 10/08/23 5:04:44 PM #24: |
What else was in the bill and why did he veto it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow_Don 10/08/23 5:06:30 PM #25: |
Dude was a frontrunner for 2028 and is completely demolishing his chances with these fucking vetoes
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ai123 10/08/23 5:07:49 PM #26: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Much like Americas gun problem, the way to fix the healthcare problem is actually less regulation (just like how less regulation on guns solves gun crime), despite the evidence to the contrary. Good on Newsom for preventing regulationWhen was it that you 'solved gun crime'? (Though I suspect this post is satire. So difficult to tell these days). --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/08/23 5:08:30 PM #27: |
ai123 posted... When was it that you 'solved gun crime'?It is satire fuck it Ill go back and add a /s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/08/23 5:10:12 PM #28: |
Rika_Furude posted...
It is satireYou already know people on CE struggle very hard to read. You gotta help people out as much as you can or they'll trip over themselves to misinterpret your posts. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 10/08/23 5:16:49 PM #29: |
Antifar posted...
With CalRx, we are getting at the underlying cost, which is the true sustainable solution to high-cost pharmaceuticals, Newsom wrote in a message explaining why he vetoed the bill on Saturday. With copay caps however, the long-term costs are still passed down to consumers through higher premiums from health plans.He's right. Keeping the costs more visible and having the state produce affordable insulin is much better. Also, by doing this, people will be more likely to purchase state insulin than that from other companies due to the cost difference not being hidden. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 10/08/23 5:22:20 PM #30: |
WingsOfGood posted...
not sure what them making a $30 generic has to do with good reason to veto the bill$30 vs $35 isn't much of a difference. While $30 vs $275 is massive. By not capping the price, he's making their insulin the go to version. This allows them to put more pressure on the companies way over charging. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Inohira 10/08/23 5:42:09 PM #31: |
The man finds the weirdest excuses to veto indisputably good bills.
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Cheater87 10/08/23 5:48:32 PM #32: |
Bowing to big pharma?
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eggcorn 10/08/23 6:58:45 PM #34: |
with this guy it's always one step forward, two steps back.
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ScazarMeltex 10/08/23 7:00:58 PM #35: |
Kradek posted...
So it looks like his justification is that they plan on releasing their own sort of brand of insulin for cheaper...but how does that help people in the meantime waiting for that to be viable enough for the whole state?It doesn't help, he's just full of shit and a corporate asset. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AzNDarkSamurai 10/08/23 7:03:04 PM #36: |
this is Newsom. he was always slimy and bought off by corporations.
does this surprise anyone? --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/08/23 7:03:40 PM #37: |
"Yeah your insulin will only cost $35/month at most, but you'll never hit your deductible like that!"
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Antifar 10/08/23 7:04:00 PM #38: |
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Inohira 10/08/23 7:08:20 PM #39: |
Cpt_Pineapple posted...
was wondering why I have TC tagged as a Trumper I feel like this propaganda is how the right-wing dominates the political narrative in the US. Call out a Republican for doing something right-wing and you're a radical leftist. Call out a Democrat for doing something right-wing and you're a red cap. Conservatives and corporate partisans have nothing in the arsenal but baseless personal attacks. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 10/08/23 7:22:56 PM #41: |
MICHALECOLE posted...
Newsom, a Democrat, said earlier this year that California would soon start making its own brand of insulin. The state has a $50 million contract with the nonprofit pharmaceutical company Civica Rx to manufacture the insulin under the brand CalRx. The state would sell a 10 milliliter vial of insulin for $30. Makes sense. Rofl CE's reading comprehension is F-tier as usual tho. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 10/08/23 7:34:55 PM #42: |
It will most likely take years for their insulin to get into manufacture and distribution, let alone enough to supply the entire state.
On top of that, the insurance companies would have been bargaining hard with the pharmaceutical companies in the mean time so they wouldnt be eating the costs. Additionally, when CAs insulin did become available all insurers would have switched to it immediately applying the exact same pressure waiting for CA to get its shit together will do now. 30 or 35 to end users wouldnt have mattered, everyone would still be using the cheapest one, as the insurance companies that actually have to pay would not buy the more expensive version they had to pay out of pocket for. --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crazyman93 10/08/23 7:38:22 PM #43: |
Kradek posted...
So it looks like his justification is that they plan on releasing their own sort of brand of insulin for cheaper...but how does that help people in the meantime waiting for that to be viable enough for the whole state?Oh, the whole reason is California wants to be able to screw people over with Insulin costs themselves, without violating their own laws. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/08/23 7:41:25 PM #44: |
Jagr_68 posted...
Makes sense. Rofl CE's reading comprehension is F-tier as usual tho.So they're going to fart a bunch of new insulin products out in like the next week? It won't take years for that to come to fruition? If medication prices were capped, who gives a damn what the deductible is anyway? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 10/08/23 7:42:22 PM #45: |
Jagr_68 posted... Makes sense. Rofl CE's reading comprehension is F-tier as usual tho.seriously he is literally putting into action a real solution that no other place is, hes having California make their own insulin and sell it for 30$, and people still want to bitch about him. Hes doing great things, and making tough decisions. Every one of his vetos were smart things. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ubergeneral3 10/08/23 7:42:33 PM #46: |
And things like this is why I laugh when the trumpers say that california is a communist state.
bro they ain't even democraft. --- Guillotine/Gulag 2020. You didn't vote Bernie now pay the price. Eat the Rich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 10/08/23 7:45:43 PM #47: |
Kradek posted...
So it looks like his justification is that they plan on releasing their own sort of brand of insulin for cheaper...but how does that help people in the meantime waiting for that to be viable enough for the whole state? I was at first thinking, oh this makes sense why he would veto it. Then I thought more and realized this asshole is doing it so his own insulin company he invested in wont have competition. It would be different if the $30 insulin was readily available, but its not. --- Sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 10/08/23 7:45:56 PM #48: |
Kradek posted...
So it looks like his justification is that they plan on releasing their own sort of brand of insulin for cheaper...but how does that help people in the meantime waiting for that to be viable enough for the whole state?Yeah I have zero problems with this. And if a major pharmaceutical company cant produce a similar insulin product at a competitive price thats really just a problem with the pharmaceutical company. California isnt doing this because they want money; its happening because pharma is ripping people off. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SimulationSwarm 10/08/23 7:46:34 PM #49: |
He also vetoed a bill decriminalizing psychedelics.
Dude is gonna run in 2028 to the right of Biden --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 10/08/23 7:52:38 PM #50: |
Crazyman93 posted...
Oh, the whole reason is California wants to be able to screw people over with Insulin costs themselves, without violating their own laws.Capping the out of pocket cost of insurance plans doesn't cap the price drug companies charge. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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