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Umbreon
10/03/23 10:26:09 PM
#101:


Again, both of you are talking about completely different things that no one else was talking about.

Y'all know why people didn't like this user, playing ignorant for the sake of Vegy of all people is... just why?

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AloneIBreak
10/03/23 10:27:27 PM
#102:


What a funny topic this turned into.

I always thought "sloppers" was comical because of how awful it was.

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BloodMoon7
10/03/23 10:29:19 PM
#103:


Umbreon posted...
Again, both of you are talking about completely different things that no one else was talking about.

Y'all know why people didn't like this user, playing ignorant for the sake of Vegy of all people is... just why?
I'm legitamately confused that Vegy has so many detractors. Is it because they don't like the gimmick? I haven't been here as long as some other users and Vegy was a fossil to me.

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ForsakenHermit
10/03/23 10:30:40 PM
#104:


Umbreon posted...
Again, both of you are talking about completely different things that no one else was talking about.

Y'all know why people didn't like this user, playing ignorant for the sake of Vegy of all people is... just why?
I get not liking Vegy for being annoying or for Drizzit's reason I just think calling him a creep and a misogynist for ugky topics was a bit much.

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asdf8562
10/03/23 10:35:11 PM
#105:


ForsakenHermit posted...
If Vegy posted pics of men with his usual euphemisms not as many people would call him sexist against the man. In fact many would fall for the tactic of the hack sociologist and say that you can't be sexist against men because power and use watered down language like 'gendered' instead.
I did not frequent Vegy topics but was aware of his reputation since they were all the same. At best I'd visit it once or twice a month and that's about as far as I ever went.

Anyway I have a gut feeling most of the users here are people not into men. I don't think most here would be invested at all about topics sexualizing men. I guess my point is, I disagree with the premise of your post since I doubt many would even care to engage in a topic posting pics of sexualized men with scenarios about some guy trying to romance you.

The premise you are getting at, I think most would still call it sexist.
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ChocoboMog123
10/03/23 10:37:59 PM
#106:


Umbreon posted...
Again, both of you are talking about completely different things that no one else was talking about.

Y'all know why people didn't like this user, playing ignorant for the sake of Vegy of all people is... just why?
Look, a lot of posters ITT that I like and respect seem to not like Vegy topics, but I just saw it as a stupid ignorable gimmick. Like I said before, it was super easy to just ignore those topics, or put him on ignore. Why do people purposefully put typos into their topics? To get engagement! And that's exactly what Vegy did. Yeah, that's annoying, but I don't see how that's sexist or misogynistic.

And there's been a whole host of accusations across multiple threads, whether it's because it's posting PG13 porn, or intentionally silly phrases, or objectifying women, or posting about sex in a public place (despite it being allowed by the rules), and so on. It's not like there's any one complaint. Yeah, a poster so prolific is going to get on some people's nerves, I'm not discounting that. I'm repeating the topic thesis that showing off some models is not sexist, as some people have vaguely claimed. And seeing that similar topics are getting locked, modded, or derided shows that this statement needs to be made.

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ForsakenHermit
10/03/23 10:38:30 PM
#107:


asdf8562 posted...
I did not frequent Vegy topics but was aware of his reputation since they were all the same. At best I'd visit it once or twice a month and that's about as far as I ever went.

Anyway I have a gut feeling most of the users here are people not into men. I don't think most here would be invested at all about topics sexualizing men. I guess my point is, I disagree with the premise of your post since I doubt many would even care to engage in a topic posting pics of sexualized men with scenarios about some guy trying to romance you.
That's true enough still you can't deny there's a double standard about sexualized media. When people enjoy the sexualized bare chests of Marvel movie superheroes very few complain, if you argued for the women to have an equivalent you're far more likely to get called a creep or a misogynist by someone.

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Questionmarktarius
10/03/23 10:39:19 PM
#108:


ChocoboMog123 posted...
whether it's because it's posting PG13 porn

Let's give G-rated porn a try?

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boomgetchopped3
10/03/23 10:44:49 PM
#109:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Let's give G-rated porn a try?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/9/AAEhCpAAEadB.jpg

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voldothegr8
10/03/23 10:46:18 PM
#110:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Let's give G-rated porn a try?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/9/AAEhCpAAEadB.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmy67fVqk6A

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Umbreon
10/03/23 10:47:56 PM
#111:


People have explained exactly why his topics were viewed as misogynistic. You've directly responded to some of these. I don't understand why you're pretending to not get it.

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itachi15243
10/03/23 10:52:29 PM
#112:


Man, this whole vegy thing has been really polarizing, huh? >.>

Anyways, I agree with the topic title. It feels like along with the image of trying to look, "right" or, "proper" progressives and Democrats in general tend to lean toward a sense of prudishness that avoids sexualizing a women and even talking about sex as much as possible. Sometimes to the point where it seems like overkill.

As far as Vegy goes, I think it's obvious to anyone or at least most who have either called or thought of boobs by the term hulking staggers or even mommy milkers after seeing his topics why he's commonly seen as sexist. Even if he was joking, it's fairly obvious what he was doing there. >.>

Although I still don't know why he was banned, or the circumstances of what happened. I definitely don't agree with how it's being treated by the mods overall though.

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ForsakenHermit
10/03/23 10:52:48 PM
#113:


Umbreon posted...
People have explained exactly why his topics were viewed as misogynistic. You've directly responded to some of these. I don't understand why you're pretending to not get it.
I missed Dark_Arbron accusing him of posting private social media pics without consent which is a legitimate reason to call him a creep or a misogynist.

Using ludicrous terms for breasts or having a humiliation fetish is not.

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Tora_Sami
10/03/23 10:54:41 PM
#114:


WingsOfGood posted...
Lara got a reduction.
Samus got a reduction.
Tifa got a reduction.
There is a pattern here.
You can say I'm a loser, but you can't deny what is happening. It's not a conspiracy. It's not internet nerds preemptively being outraged. We said it would happen and it did. We knew it would because it's happened already. Because it's a clear and continuous pattern.
I don't care. I'm a fucking nerd. Whatever.
No, I don't need big breasts on a female character to find her interesting as a character. You don't need profanity and gratuitous bloodshed to have a good time at the movies. But if there's a PG-13 sequel or remake to an R-rated movie, people flip a table because they're being denied something they used to have. It's the same thing here.
If you go to favorite place to eat and find one day that they've stopped serving alcohol, you'd be within your rights to go someplace else even if the food is just as good as it always was.
Even if you don't care about fictional breasts (or real breasts on women playing fictional characters). Even if you're not into women period, it's still a bad thing to remove all buxom women from the media. You are saying that there is a certain type of person who you do not want to be featured in the media and it's through no fault of their own. This is like taking every story which had a Jewish character in it and replacing them with non-Jewish characters. You would be selectively removing a group of people from having any media presence or representation.
It's not just censorship. It's discrimination. How are women with large breasts supposed to feel in real life when they're not good enough to make it into movies? What does it say to them that body types and personality types are treated one and the same and that busty types are the "bimbo" types that we don't want? I suppose they can go out and get reductions if they want to be treated fairly.
Cover Tifa up more. Take away her midriff. Make it so that there's no bounce or jiggle -- just fat dead space. But don't flatten her because women with sizable breasts are somehow bad people according to the censors who think themselves progressive.

Ya know....I'm glad they reduced the size of their breasts. Cause they are more aesthetically pleasing to me then ridiculous proportioned breasts. Maybe the people in charge just find those one more attractive? What about us dudes who like smaller breasts? Why do they always have to be ridiculously huge? Just let us humans that like smaller breasts on woman to be happy that we get more representation now. I'm sur ethe big booby woman will be back in culture later on. Just enjoy the reduction season while it's here.

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wanderingshade
10/03/23 10:58:23 PM
#115:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Look at all the people celebrating Vegy being shunned acting like he was a sex trafficker. The whole idea that men should feel ashamed for being sexually attracted to a woman or should never comment on it in polite society should be kept in the dustbin of history where it belongs.

Fuck the Christian right and fuck the seg negative people on the left too.

I think people do need to be more sex positive, especially when it comes to women enjoying sex. But there's a difference between sex positive and posting pictures of women with big boobs and being like "Oh my god I want her to fuck me" almost every single day.

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BloodMoon7
10/03/23 10:59:57 PM
#116:


Tora_Sami posted...
Ya know....I'm glad they reduced the size of their breasts. Cause they are more aesthetically pleasing to me then ridiculous proportioned breasts. Maybe the people in charge just find those one more attractive? What about us dudes who like smaller breasts? Why do they always have to be ridiculously huge? Just let us humans that like smaller breasts on woman to be happy that we get more representation now. I'm sur ethe big booby woman will be back in culture later on. Just enjoy the reduction season while it's here.
There are more small booby women in games than big booby women. Unless it's anime and even then you have the "flat is justice" crowd.

Of course ALL boobies are wonderful.

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A_Good_Boy
10/03/23 11:19:05 PM
#117:


AloneIBreak posted...
What a funny topic this turned into.

I always thought "sloppers" was comical because of how awful it was.
I'm a big fan of brappers. That shit's funny.

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bobbaaay
10/03/23 11:32:33 PM
#118:


I haven't been on here in like a year. I was always indifferent about Vegy - if anything the only things that bothered me were when he said fatphobic things.

But I agree that I see more and more people on the left being swerfs and super prudish sexually. It's very odd that being sex negative has turned into what people in their twenties consider progressive.
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dioxxys
10/03/23 11:38:44 PM
#119:


Umbreon posted...
We're talking about someone having a sexist behavior.
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Darkinsanity1
10/03/23 11:58:01 PM
#120:


itachi15243 posted...
Man, this whole vegy thing has been really polarizing, huh? >.>

Anyways, I agree with the topic title. It feels like along with the image of trying to look, "right" or, "proper" progressives and Democrats in general tend to lean toward a sense of prudishness that avoids sexualizing a women and even talking about sex as much as possible. Sometimes to the point where it seems like overkill.

As far as Vegy goes, I think it's obvious to anyone or at least most who have either called or thought of boobs by the term hulking staggers or even mommy milkers after seeing his topics why he's commonly seen as sexist. Even if he was joking, it's fairly obvious what he was doing there. >.>

Although I still don't know why he was banned, or the circumstances of what happened. I definitely don't agree with how it's being treated by the mods overall though.
I agree with this and generally the topic as well but really I think far too many people are too easily offended by everything anymore. Censorship is getting out of hand in our society.

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Doe
10/04/23 12:22:08 AM
#121:


dioxxys posted...

The future is crazy >_>

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Umbreon
10/04/23 12:41:14 AM
#122:


dioxxys posted...
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I mean...

I have no problem with this?

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dioxxys
10/04/23 12:48:09 AM
#123:


Teehee
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WalkingLobsters
10/04/23 12:55:09 AM
#124:


it's fascinating how often people here talk about sex despite not getting any

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BloodMoon7
10/04/23 1:03:05 AM
#125:


WalkingLobsters posted...
it's fascinating how often people here talk about sex despite not getting any
Well who else will talk about sex while the sex havers are too busy having the sex?

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Guide
10/04/23 1:13:32 AM
#126:


wanderingshade posted...
But there's a difference between sex positive and posting pictures of women with big boobs and being like "Oh my god I want her to fuck me" almost every single day.

That is, at worst, sex neutral.

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Tyranthraxus
10/04/23 1:43:14 AM
#127:


A_Good_Boy posted...
I'm a big fan of brappers. That shit's funny.

Thankfully he was banned before he discovered the word chesticles

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Guide
10/04/23 2:06:06 AM
#129:


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They're totally allowed to find veg annoying. Ifind veg annoying. It's just he didn't do anything to actually warrant a ban.

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Tyranthraxus
10/04/23 2:07:39 AM
#130:


Guide posted...
They're totally allowed to find veg annoying. Ifind veg annoying. It's just he didn't do anything to actually warrant a ban.
The disgusting rampant sexism would have gotten him banned in most other forums years ago.

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Guide
10/04/23 2:08:42 AM
#131:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The disgusting rampant sexism would have gotten him banned in most other forums years ago.

Good thing we're on other foru-oh wait

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pikakaeru
10/04/23 2:09:13 AM
#132:


My CE would never ban vegy

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ForsakenHermit
10/04/23 2:15:45 AM
#133:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I never said that people couldn't find him annoying just that calling him creepy for posting pics of women is overboard and yes prudish, unless they don't consent to it.

The people acting like he's a sex criminal are the ones who called him a misogynist (unless they didn't consent of course)and are celebrating his ban and acting like it's a victory against objectifying women.

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Dark_Arbron
10/04/23 2:18:10 AM
#134:


ForsakenHermit posted...
I missed Dark_Arbron accusing him of posting private social media pics without consent which is a legitimate reason to call him a creep or a misogynist.

Using ludicrous terms for breasts or having a humiliation fetish is not.

I still want the person who originally said that to back me up on that. It was in one of the many (closed) topics on the subject of his departure.

Otherwise Im just spreading hearsay that might not actually be true, and thats kinda low.

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Im more interested in his apparent intention to save the Japanese people. Intentional or not, a white anime nerd talking like that has serious Mighty Whitey vibes.


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ai123
10/04/23 2:35:35 AM
#135:


ForsakenHermit posted...
I never said that people couldn't find him annoying just that calling him creepy for posting pics of women is overboard and yes prudish, unless they don't consent to it.

He wasn't called creepy just for posting the pictures, he was called creepy for talking about their body parts and 'breeding' with them in an infant's voice.

The people acting like he's a sex criminal are the ones who called him a misogynist (unless they didn't consent of course)and are celebrating his ban and acting like it's a victory against objectifying women.

He's not a 'sex criminal', he's a shitposter with a creepy sexist gimmick. That's all.

Not deserving of hate, but certainly not meriting a defence.

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Guide
10/04/23 4:18:41 AM
#136:


Nothing sexist to it at all. Just oddly vocal about being horny.

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kurdt032
10/04/23 4:37:47 AM
#137:


WingsOfGood posted...
Cover Tifa up more. Take away her midriff. Make it so that there's no bounce or jiggle -- just fat dead space. But don't flatten her because women with sizable breasts are somehow bad people according to the censors who think themselves progressive.

Lmao what a country


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asdf8562
10/04/23 6:09:48 AM
#138:


@guide
They're totally allowed to find veg annoying. Ifind veg annoying. It's just he didn't do anything to actually warrant a ban.
Do we actually know this. Or is horny sex depraved lil humans upset he got banned just assuming that's why he was banned.

Has a mod come here and confirmed that's why he was banned? Because the person who gets banned tends to not tell the real reason they were banned/suspended/modded to play victim with an alt.

Tbh, I question is the man even gone and just isn't on his main/alt account where he doesn't post horny shit on it constantly. It's not like we don't know already he isn't against using alts in the first place. Because if there's one thing the horny crowd loves to do is play victim.
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pinky0926
10/04/23 6:11:54 AM
#139:


I'm out of the loop, did vegy get banned? Because damn, did he have anything else going on in life?

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brestugo
10/04/23 6:33:19 AM
#140:


asdf8562 posted...
@guide
Do we actually know this. Or is horny sex depraved lil humans upset he got banned just assuming that's why he was banned.

Has a mod come here and confirmed that's why he was banned? Because the person who gets banned tends to not tell the real reason they were banned/suspended/modded to play victim with an alt.

He may have been banned for something no one's even mentioned yet. It was a paradox of the heap thing with the guy anyway.

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brestugo
10/04/23 6:36:32 AM
#141:


Villain_S_Fiend posted...


That's not a position anybody actually holds. It's the way that attraction is expressed that matters. The 'how', 'when', and 'where' is far more important than the 'if'. Being expected to employ some tact is not the same as being told you're bad for having an attraction.

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asdf8562
10/04/23 7:38:19 AM
#143:


TC isn't right. This isn't a conservative vs liberal ideology. Just people like him feeling every subject needs to have political leaning. Especially the hyper political types that dig further into the no true Scotsman nonesense that if you don't embrace this particular stance, then you are no true liberal or conservative.
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mustachedmystic
10/04/23 7:44:04 AM
#144:


Who da fuck says dat? Are dey da same people dat say dogs have leaves and pine trees are a domesticated animal?

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potdnewb
10/04/23 7:50:31 AM
#147:


maybe if people were less focused on sex for pleasure and more focused on creating a better society through good works the world would be a better place
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The_shibe
10/04/23 7:50:49 AM
#148:


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is that really bannable, though?

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rexcrk
10/04/23 7:51:16 AM
#149:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Bingo

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