Current Events > Star Wars: Ahsoka Episode 8 Topic *SPOILERS*

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This is the final episode. I hope they stick the landing because it's been pretty good so far.

Is it just me, or are other people having issues getting this episode to actually load and play?

Slightly underwhelmed with how many loose threads were left, especially with baylan considering the actor died. His fight with ahsoka was the highlight, he was the highlight

Ahsoka vs morgan was good. Thrawn was awesome...once you ignore the blue elon part.

Good show overall, 8/10, 2nd best thing of disney era after andor.

Im cool with cliffhangers but man, looking at the schedule, we have skeleton crew, acolyte, andor s2, then probably mando s4 or the rey movie. The cliffhangers going to be that for too long

Yeah I hope they're not waiting 3 or 4 years to resolve all this because holy shit there's a lot.

Fucking good show though.

DarthAragorn posted...

Yeah I hope they're not waiting 3 or 4 years to resolve all this because holy shit there's a lot.

Fucking good show though.

I cant see anything in 2024 resolving this since that sched is probably locked with skeleton crew, acolyte and andor season 2 with strikes pushing everything back. 2025 earliest but we've heard rumblings of mando s4 and the rey movie longer, so there is some 3-5 projects at least before this gets any sort of follow up

Also skeleton crew is doomed. The force is always balanced, for every good disney plus show there is a mid one. Mando s1, s2, andor, ahsoka in good. Booba fett, obi wan, mando s3 in mid. Will skeleton crew bring balance to the force

Those statues at the end with Baylan, those were the Father and Son from Clone Wars right? Or did they just look very very similar?

So clearly we've got a Season 2 coming and a recast of Baylan Skoll.

All things considered this season ended... pretty well. I'm still bummed about how little Ahsoka is being her own character.

I'm a little surprised they brought the Eye of Sion down to the planet as opposed to bringing the Chimaera up to the Eye of Sion. Kind of a tactical error for our favorite Chiss. >_>

I'm also surprised so many survived. And I'm a little bummed we didn't get Zeb, but I guess that's what S2 is for.

CyricZ posted...

So clearly we've got a Season 2 coming and a recast of Baylan Skoll.

All things considered this season ended... pretty well. I'm still bummed about how little Ahsoka is being her own character.

I'm a little surprised they brought the Eye of Sion down to the planet as opposed to bringing the Chimaera up to the Eye of Sion. Kind of a tactical error for our favorite Chiss. >_>

I'm also surprised so many survived. And I'm a little bummed we didn't get Zeb, but I guess that's what S2 is for.

The recast of baylan is not so simple

The actor made him special. Someone else could do it but theres an equal chance he just gets written out

It's not simple but that's way, way too big of a storyline to just drop

Kind of a meh season finale, none of the mysteries got resolved, overall this whole show just seemed like filler. Like we could have just had the season start with Thrawn returning with an undead army and Ezra a stowaway on his ship, then have a plot for the season that actually means something.

Morgan vs Ahsoka was really good, but all the other action scenes were just laughable unfortunately. They were just fighting faceless storm troopers, but still it looked pretty bad.

Not sure what the future holds for this era, Ahsoka didnt really light up the fan base, and do we really need a second season of Ahsoka and Sabine trying to get home? And there is pretty much 0% chance we get the Rey movie. Even Filonis movie is improbable at this point.

Maybe they should just hop straight into a brand new show with Thrawn threatening the Galaxy and Han/Luke/Leia are the main characters. Not really sure what else Disney can do to get the fan base back

^this is such a negative take. The word filler is thrown at everything

I do agree with mysteries being unresolved

DarthAragorn posted...

Those statues at the end with Baylan, those were the Father and Son from Clone Wars right? Or did they just look very very similar?

That was my thought too, Mortis Temples must be all over the Universe.

That was my thought too, Mortis Temples must be all over the Universe.

Well it IS suppose to be about the god of this universe...but man if they REALLY bring back Abloth and make HER cannon...and have her come back for Rey to defeat to...oh god.

Necronmon posted...

Well it IS suppose to be about the god of this universe...but man if they REALLY bring back Abloth and make HER cannon...and have her come back for Rey to defeat to...oh god.

No way Filoni is doing that, right

it's gotta be Ahsoka's story, she's the only character that has any link to Mortis and the gods

It's too bad we didn't get to see Ray take Baylan's story to it's climax, he really was the best part of this season. One million percent those statues were the Mortis trio.

Is it just me, or is this teeth thing Rosario does really, REALLY distracting? Like when she's fighting she opens her mouth wide and bares all her teeth. I don't remember little Ahsoka doing that at all.

No way Filoni is doing that, right

it's gotta be Ahsoka's story, she's the only character that has any link to Mortis and the gods

If they have Ahoska take on some Force god and then Ray just takes out some random thug in episode ten she will look inferior and they still are pushing hard that she IS the super star so its entirely possible Ashoka does something to delay it and its all just to set up Ray's movie...its a battle to who can push there pet star the most I guess.

So anyone can become a force wielder now.

The secret is, trust in the force and (mandalorian spoilers) Gideon wouldnt have to go through all that trouble to capture the little green guy.

So anyone can become a force wielder now.

The secret is, trust in the force and (mandalorian spoilers) Gideon wouldnt have to go through all that trouble to capture the little green guy.

If anyone can become a Jedi just by wishing for it hard enough it kind of destroys' everything Lucas tried to make the Jedi be about and turn them into Green Lanterns or something with the will power.

I feel like Disney is doing this to just make it so that anyone instantly becomes a " Master" just by wishing for it really hard and thus any random kid will defeat the enemy or something...ugh.

omg anakin

The biggest strength of this show is how much it's like the cartoons. It's a trip seeing all of these designs and even the same voice actors in some instances translate directly to live action. Seeing Hayden get to play Clone Wars Anakin especially was a lot of fun.

The biggest weakness of this show is how much it's like the cartoons. The motivations of these characters are paper thin and it doesn't have the breathing room of the cartoons to get you invested in any of these relationships with the content provided.

It's a fun experiment seeing someone who handled the cartoons transition to live action but I don't think it was a big success personally. Filoni is clearly a Star Wars fan and is passionate about the property. He's good with the big picture stuff and connecting pre-existing stuff in interesting ways. But to be frank he's good at iterating on foundations that others have already built and established. He's good at positioning the important things and utilizing them but he seems to have an issue making a story that's about why these things are important outside of fan service when given a more limited run time of a live action show.

The show is called Ahsoka and yet most of her character development happens when she fell into a magic doorway puddle to talk to Anakin. Why does she want an apprentice after she left the Jedi? What does she want Sabine to be? What does this journey actually mean to her as a character? What is her goal outside of stopping a bad guy?

Thrawn isn't exactly immune to this either. Why do the Empire remnants want to follow him? Ahsoka says early on they're loyal to the empire because of money. In that same episode people willingly give their lives to stop her from stopping the search for Thrawn. That doesn't seem to really be an accurate reasoning?

We get a little bit about how Thrawn likes authority. But what does that look like to him? Throughout Rebels he didn't seem to care much about anything other than besting his opponents in warfare. We didn't even really see his relation to the Emperor. What is his Empire supposed to even look or be like. Why should we the audience consider him to be some scary threat that's potentially worth stranding a hero over?

It's just all over the show. Sabine was willing to sacrifice everything to see Ezra. Why? I suppose it's because she lost her family and she made a promise to Ezra to find her. But again despite this being a 7ish hour show this is all just sorta skimmed over. We just have to roll with it and accept that this now means everything to her.

All of this is fine in a fun little cartoon. But it just feels pretty lacking when brought into a medium that's presumably supposed to be more adult. Especially when we're coming off Andor which is all about the why people do what they do.

Like I recognize that Andor is a high bar but this is pretty basic storytelling 101. Even Rey has a rather basic motivation of wanting to belong to something after being abandoned by her parents. It doesn't take much to give a human motivation to these characters outside of "I am a good guy who wants to help my friends and stop the bad guy."

Also can we stop with the Star Wars stories about unlocking galaxy maps to find a pre-established and important character?

Necronmon posted...

If anyone can become a Jedi just by wishing for it hard enough it kind of destroys' everything Lucas tried to make the Jedi be about and turn them into Green Lanterns or something with the will power.

I feel like Disney is doing this to just make it so that anyone instantly becomes a " Master" just by wishing for it really hard and thus any random kid will defeat the enemy or something...ugh.

Eh even Lucas was inconsistent about it. In ESB Yoda is all about "Do or do not there is no try" and making fun of Luke's expectations on what a Jedi Master should look like and then it turns out nah his Daddy is the chosen one for all Force users actually.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Ahsoka didnt really light up the fan base

Most people I know are calling this the best (or second best behind Andor) Star Wars series so far. I think people are more hyped for Star Wars' future now than they've been since Disney took over.

Necronmon posted...

If anyone can become a Jedi just by wishing for it hard enough it kind of destroys' everything Lucas tried to make the Jedi be about

Bruh, the force is in all living things. That's one of the first lessons Yoda teaches to Luke. Luminous beings are we, and all that. In what world did you get the impression that force sensitivity is exceptionally rare?

I think most people can train to be a Jedi, it's just not an easy path, and it comes with great risk to train someone who isn't serious about adhering to a certain set of morals.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Most people I know are calling this the best (or second best behind Andor) Star Wars series so far. I think people are more hyped for Star Wars' future now than they've been since Disney took over.

Eh I guess people can get excited for a Mandalorian, Rebels and Ahsoka team up vs Thrawn with the potential of OT cast cameos but personally I'm more excited to see where they take Rey and how the next Star Wars Jedi games will play out.

I'd be fine if they resolved all of this as a cartoon so characters like Luke and Leia have the potential to do something. Doubt they'll do that at this point though.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

I think most people can train to be a Jedi, it's just not an easy path, and it comes with great risk to train someone who isn't serious about adhering to a certain set of morals.

Anyone can probably train enough to sense the Force, but not enough to be a Jedi, or else they wouldn't be so strict about raw talent. Sabine has a noticeable level of Force sensitivity, but she wouldn't have had enough talent to be accepted by the Order. What little potential she had was likely being blocked by fear, trauma, and guilt (look at the trouble Obi-wan had using the Force under similar circumstances). She moved her light saber up a few feet; she didn't bring down a Star Destroyer or reach across galaxies or whatever.

If that level of power seems unrealistic because of her lack of training, don't forget her years as a Mandalorian. She has strong focus and willpower, and is now without an emotional block. Morgan didn't seem to have squat for a connection to the Force, but she was still incredibly useful to the Night Sisters and overall did OK for herself.

Speaking of the Force, I'm quite glad we are finally seeing beings who wield the Force and use it for stuff besides vague feelings and telekinesis. They literally made an object with the Force, gave it some kind of weird power that could resist light saber beams, and severely powered up Morgan. They also made undead warriors on the spot.

Ahsoka sets up probably the most mystical and Force-heavy 2nd season in post-Disney Star Wars we will ever see. I'm extremely hopeful for season 2.

lol at the anime sword summon. One thing I really appreciate is the show finally bringing the magic into live action.

Sabine's helmet needs a chin strap. She keeps losing it!

tankboy posted...

Sabine's helmet needs a chin strap. She keeps losing it!

They have to get their moneys worth for paying the actress, they need her face on the screen as much as possible.

It's a shame because the mandalorian helmets are so nice.

Like every time bo katan put on her helmet, she's like instantly more badass.

Seeing the jump Force push/pull combo in live action made me smile. Loved it each and every time Kanan and Ezran would do it in Rebels. Star War's own fastball special.

TheSavageDragon posted...

Seeing the jump Force push/pull combo in live action made me smile. Loved it each and every time Kanan and Ezran would do it in Rebels. Star War's own fastball special.

I kinda wanted chopper to go up to ezra and shock him like he always did in rebels, ezra will yell 'chopper' and he do his laugh.

Cobra1010 posted...

So anyone can become a force wielder now.

The secret is, trust in the force and (mandalorian spoilers) Gideon wouldnt have to go through all that trouble to capture the little green guy.

Everyone has the potential if they dedicate themselves but it's easier if you have a high m-count.

fart dumpsterfire of a finale.

The finale should have been a 1 hour and 40 minute special episode or something like they do with other shows.

Nothing got wrapped up or resolved or explained. The whole show was basically setting up season 2 or a movie. F this bullcrap.

Also Zombi Stormtroopers and Jedi with lightsabers struggling was the lamest garbage. Just cut the limbs off! No legs or arms no problem but nope Disney made it so kid friendly now.

Sounds like maybe the franchise (and the concept of seasonal TV in general) has passed you by and you should maybe move on.

Ahsoka season 1 should've been Episode 7 and 8 IMO.

luigi33 posted...

Ahsoka season 1 should've been Episode 7 and 8 IMO.

They must have misinterpreted Andor's slow ass plot movement = good. So the plot barely moved in ep 1-4.

AwesomoSauce posted...

fart dumpsterfire of a finale

L take, sorry bro

Cobra1010 posted...

They must have misinterpreted Andor's slow ass plot movement = good. So the plot barely moved in ep 1-4.

People keep saying this and I realize that's because they really don't understand "plot" or "development." That's why terms like "filler" gets thrown around so often and incorrectly.

The plot did move forward, as did the characters. Ezra and Thrawne are no longer trapped. Shin, Ahsoka and Sabine are in completely different places (figuratively and literally) at the end than they were in the beginning.

Baylan's story is clearly going to continue, which is how television series tend to work. Things carry over from one season to the next.

Continuous drip feeds of story content combined with the general decline of media literacy has rotted people's brains when it comes to analyzing plot and story

lolife67 posted...

People keep saying this and I realize that's because they really don't understand "plot" or "development." That's why terms like "filler" gets thrown around so often and incorrectly.

The plot did move forward, as did the characters. Ezra and Thrawne are no longer trapped. Shin, Ahsoka and Sabine are in completely different places (figuratively and literally) at the end than they were in the beginning.

Baylan's story is clearly going to continue, which is how television series tend to work. Things carry over from one season to the next.

Yeah and all that happened in the span of like the last 5 episodes. Episode 6 being kind of a filler.

I'm only pointing out what normal people might think though.

I'm a rebels fan so any content is good for me. I'm very satisfied with this season.

The finale was really good, but yeah, definitely left things too open ended. I wouldnt mind that if the show was returning in like a year, but we know its going to be like 2+ years until we see either another season or if that movie theyre doing will tie into this.

The show overall was really good. Not my favorite, but definitely not my least favorite, either. I wonder what theyre going to do with Baylan though. I assume recast him.

Cobra1010 posted...

Yeah and all that happened in the span of like the last 5 episodes. Episode 6 being kind of a filler.

Um, no lol them getting back to the regular galaxy literally happens in Episode 6. So you're flat out wrong and yet can't admit it?

It's weird that some people think character development episodes are filler.

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's weird that some people think character development episodes are filler.

Yeah. I first noticed this with the show Supernatural. People would complain about filler, not realizing those episodes are the ones that showcase Sam and Dean's unique personalities and helps you care about them.

I just saw someone say Episode 5 (with Anakin) was filler and just nostalgia bait. Like, are you even lying attention to what's happening?

lolife67 posted...

Um, no lol them getting back to the regular galaxy literally happens in Episode 6. So you're flat out wrong and yet can't admit it?

Oh is it. Sorry then. I'll have to rewatch the whole season next week on my day off

Gobstoppers12 posted...

L take, sorry bro

A show with like 5 lightsaber users and not 1 good lightsaber fight in the finale at all. Hell no good fight at all in 40 minutess lmao shit garbage

damn...was i right about the valley of the jedi?

AwesomoSauce posted...

A show with like 5 lightsaber users and not 1 good lightsaber fight in the finale at all. Hell no good fight at all in 40 minutess lmao shit garbage

Dude...saying Ahsoka vs Morgan wasn't good is crazy levels of trolling lol

I will agree with the folks who say Filoni doesn't quite get Thrawn.

Like, sure, ultimately Thrawn succeeded and made it back to the galaxy. Ultimately he won.

But every little victory the team get against him and his strategy just makes him seem less and less competent. And no amount of smooth and calm Lars can really help with that.

Book of Boba > Ahsoka