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Zaltera
10/20/23 1:23:05 PM
#401:


TimeForAction posted...
I dont know if unexpected is the word Id use

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ROBANN_88
10/20/23 2:44:35 PM
#402:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPvWK8kiaVk
part 4 of interview with the Canadiann fighter

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videospirit
10/20/23 3:57:01 PM
#403:


UnfairRepresent posted...
In an unexpected move, the Pentagon is diverting a sizable cache of 155mm artillery shells, originally meant for Ukraine, to Israel.

That's a weird way of phrasing "US Decides to leave Artillery shells already in Israel in Israel instead of transferring them to Ukraine amid tensions."

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Thompson
10/21/23 5:19:44 AM
#404:


Remember a few days ago how Russia sent hundreds of men to their deaths in an utterly bonkers meatwave attack against a 30 meter tall slag heap with near-vertical slopes that Ukrainians use as a fortress?

Well, just a bit northwest of that slag heap is a field about 1.50 square km in size. It's rather unremarkable... except for the fact that it's a literal killing field where several dozen Russian tanks and AFVs have met their end!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJmRZaU9f0


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Humble_Novice
10/21/23 1:04:31 PM
#405:


https://twitter.com/bludzbytko/status/1715725692623548569

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Sir_Will
10/21/23 3:07:14 PM
#406:


Thompson posted...
Remember a few days ago how Russia sent hundreds of men to their deaths in an utterly bonkers meatwave attack against a 30 meter tall slag heap with near-vertical slopes that Ukrainians use as a fortress?

Well, just a bit northwest of that slag heap is a field about 1.50 square km in size. It's rather unremarkable... except for the fact that it's a literal killing field where several dozen Russian tanks and AFVs have met their end!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOJmRZaU9f0
lol, wtf? Oh Russia.

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darkace77450
10/22/23 1:12:22 AM
#407:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Adding another layer, Israel is rumored to be requesting $10 billion in emergency military aid from the U.S., signifying a heightened regional alertness.

I'm sure the "America First" Republicans demanding we leave Ukraine to fend for itself are outraged over the prospect of sending billions to Israel, right?
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Jordan_AS
10/22/23 1:37:04 AM
#408:


darkace77450 posted...
I'm sure the "America First" Republicans demanding we leave Ukraine to fend for itself are outraged over the prospect of sending billions to Israel, right?
I think I saw Marjorie Taylor talk about not wanting to get involved in another European war over Ukraine and then immediately pivoted to helping Israel because another middle east war would be so much better.

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Chev427BB
10/22/23 4:18:54 AM
#409:


Russian defences on the Dnipro are beginning to collapse.

https://youtu.be/-L0lVdXgB8Y?si=FNlhiut34EH29s9r

The Ukrainians have successfully crossed the Dnipro once again and have dug in within a wooded area south of the new crossing.

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Kradek
10/23/23 12:29:49 PM
#410:


Jordan_AS posted...
I think I saw Marjorie Taylor talk about not wanting to get involved in another European war over Ukraine and then immediately pivoted to helping Israel because another middle east war would be so much better.

Of course. They get to fulfill their fantasies of seeing Muslims murdered while also not having to deal with the sticky situation of wanting to suck off Daddy Vladdy while being in a nation that largely doesn't want that.

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Thompson
10/25/23 11:19:17 AM
#413:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Check if this works for you?
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1717140898411114938.html

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Humble_Novice
10/25/23 5:01:30 PM
#415:


https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1717281359557804532

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Notti
10/28/23 7:46:34 AM
#416:


https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1716352505972699566?s=20

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Humble_Novice
10/29/23 8:35:00 PM
#417:


https://twitter.com/LuxintN7/status/1718746944250466629

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videospirit
10/29/23 8:53:06 PM
#418:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/LuxintN7/status/1718746944250466629

I mean, it's different if the state supports the protest or not.

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Chev427BB
10/30/23 4:44:56 AM
#419:


There are unconfirmed reports that Ukrainian forces have crossed the Dnipro again and have liberated the village of Krynky.

https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1718782862332154357

It looks to me like, at the very least, they're trying to consolidate control over the left bank of the Dnipro before they dig in for winter.

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ROBANN_88
10/30/23 2:24:16 PM
#420:


so did the Russkies destroying deliberately destroying that dam end up helping the Ukrainian war effort in the long run?

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s0nicfan
10/30/23 2:32:26 PM
#421:


ROBANN_88 posted...
so did the Russkies destroying deliberately destroying that dam end up helping the Ukrainian war effort in the long run?

Maybe, but probably not. It completely shut out the possibility of an offensive coming from Kherson which may have saved Crimea over this past summer and, at the very least, forced the offensive entirely towards the areas Russia has fortified the most. Plus the lack of major progress in the summer offensive has created and will continue to create challenges in maintaining support for the war from western nations who are dealing with their own internal politics.

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ROBANN_88
10/30/23 2:52:30 PM
#422:


s0nicfan posted...
at the very least, forced the offensive entirely towards the areas Russia has fortified the most.

right, i didn't think about that

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Notti
11/02/23 6:43:14 AM
#423:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8e12a77e.jpg

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Humble_Novice
11/02/23 6:57:22 AM
#424:


More news on the Ukraine front.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17lpeyo/ukraine_has_taken_17000_russians_off_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17lv6i9/on_june_23_2022_ukraine_achieved_candidate_status/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17lg7s9/russia_suffers_record_tank_losses_in_october_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17lizlu/ukrainian_troops_defeated_russian_offensive/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/17lgdde/guerrillas_discovered_unloading_sites_for_ship/

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Humble_Novice
11/02/23 3:09:11 PM
#425:


https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1720145375116284262

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Humble_Novice
11/03/23 1:27:25 AM
#426:


https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1719615645745123835

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Zikten
11/03/23 1:28:15 AM
#427:


Would we even know if he had died, and the Kremlin was hiding it?
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Foppe
11/03/23 2:00:00 PM
#428:


https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/945260.html

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divot1338
11/03/23 2:02:43 PM
#429:


Zikten posted...
Would we even know if he had died, and the Kremlin was hiding it?
There would be a military coup immediately with that as the excuse.

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Foppe
11/03/23 3:35:11 PM
#431:


You probably live in a luxury prison that you can never leave, then getting a ride where you are needed and told what to do.

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Sahel
11/03/23 7:31:01 PM
#432:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1720145375116284262
They should designate Vladimir Putin as a terrorist. Something that should have been done in 2006.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2006/2/9/putin-to-invite-hamas-to-moscow

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Chev427BB
11/03/23 9:04:34 PM
#433:


Yeah, Putin had already begun his conquest at that point in the second Chechen war, and we all know what they did to Grozny.

And shockedpikachu.jpg at Qatari state media legitimizing Hamas as a political party and resistance movement

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UnfairRepresent
11/04/23 10:36:18 AM
#434:


70% of Russians want to end the Ukraine War. But only if they keep territories.

70% of Russians would support their President, Vladimir Putin, if he decided to end the war against Ukraine this week. However, only one in three would support such a move if an end to the war was accompanied by returning all occupied Ukrainian territories.

These figures are according to a survey conducted in Russia by the Levada Analytical Centre through personal interviews on Oct. 19-25.

The survey also found that if they could go back in time and cancel Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, only 41 percent of respondents would not start the war.

The majority of support for the start of a military special operation was in the 55 years and older age group of which 51 percent supported Putins February 2022 decision

Among younger age groups, especially those under 24, 56 percent were both in favor of cancelling the war or wouldnt have started it in the first place.

Moscow residents who supported the start of the special military operation was somewhat higher at 55 percent compared with those from outside of the capital.

Almost half of Russians believe that the war in Ukraine will continue for some time, with 23 percent believing that it will last from 6 months to a year but 46 percent thinking will last for more than 12 months.

The respondents were also asked what had caused Russia's war against Ukraine in their own words rather than in response to a pre-formatted option.

25 percent said it was necessary to launch the military special operation to liberate the Donbas and to protect Russians residing there. 14 percent repeated the refrain that it was to eradicate fascism and destroy Nazism with 13 percent saying it was in response to aggression by Ukraine and Western countries.

In February, the Levada think tank had asked Russians the same questions. Back then, they gave the goals of the special operation as: preventing an attack on Russia, and securing the borders - 30 percent, protecting Russian/Russian-speaking civilians, the Donbas - 27 percent and getting rid of nationalists, eradicating fascism - 12 percent.

In recent months opinions on whether to continue hostilities or start peace talks has changed little: 55 percent believe that negotiations should be started, compared with 51 percent in September and 38 percent supporting the continuation of hostilities (against 39 percent in September.

67 percent of respondents saw the return of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions to Ukraine as an unacceptable condition for negotiations with 71 percent feeling the same about the return of occupied Luhansk and Donetsk, and 76 percent opposing Ukraine's accession to NATO.

Full Article: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23538

https://i.imgur.com/mGQxSWk.png

The 76% opposition to NATO is a strong reason to let them into NATO imo

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divot1338
11/04/23 4:46:06 PM
#435:


UnfairRepresent posted...
70% of Russians want to end the Ukraine War. But only if they keep territories.

70% of Russians would support their President, Vladimir Putin, if he decided to end the war against Ukraine this week. However, only one in three would support such a move if an end to the war was accompanied by returning all occupied Ukrainian territories.

These figures are according to a survey conducted in Russia by the Levada Analytical Centre through personal interviews on Oct. 19-25.

The survey also found that if they could go back in time and cancel Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, only 41 percent of respondents would not start the war.

The majority of support for the start of a military special operation was in the 55 years and older age group of which 51 percent supported Putins February 2022 decision

Among younger age groups, especially those under 24, 56 percent were both in favor of cancelling the war or wouldnt have started it in the first place.

Moscow residents who supported the start of the special military operation was somewhat higher at 55 percent compared with those from outside of the capital.

Almost half of Russians believe that the war in Ukraine will continue for some time, with 23 percent believing that it will last from 6 months to a year but 46 percent thinking will last for more than 12 months.

The respondents were also asked what had caused Russia's war against Ukraine in their own words rather than in response to a pre-formatted option.

25 percent said it was necessary to launch the military special operation to liberate the Donbas and to protect Russians residing there. 14 percent repeated the refrain that it was to eradicate fascism and destroy Nazism with 13 percent saying it was in response to aggression by Ukraine and Western countries.

In February, the Levada think tank had asked Russians the same questions. Back then, they gave the goals of the special operation as: preventing an attack on Russia, and securing the borders - 30 percent, protecting Russian/Russian-speaking civilians, the Donbas - 27 percent and getting rid of nationalists, eradicating fascism - 12 percent.

In recent months opinions on whether to continue hostilities or start peace talks has changed little: 55 percent believe that negotiations should be started, compared with 51 percent in September and 38 percent supporting the continuation of hostilities (against 39 percent in September.

67 percent of respondents saw the return of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions to Ukraine as an unacceptable condition for negotiations with 71 percent feeling the same about the return of occupied Luhansk and Donetsk, and 76 percent opposing Ukraine's accession to NATO.

Full Article: https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23538

https://i.imgur.com/mGQxSWk.png

The 76% opposition to NATO is a strong reason to let them into NATO imo
lol a Russian survey

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videospirit
11/05/23 12:29:11 AM
#436:


divot1338 posted...
lol a Russian survey

Yeah, even when foreigners are the ones conducting the survey, I'd be suspicious about the accuracy.

You see it when people show videos where they interview Russians on the streets. They get nervous and paranoid. A lot of them are just going to say whatever they think Putin would want them to say.

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Thompson
11/05/23 10:14:32 AM
#437:


So I just heard that Ukraine destroyed a Russian corvette in Crimea before it had even been fully finished.
Russia continues to lose a naval war to a country with no navy.

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s0nicfan
11/05/23 11:44:33 AM
#438:


Thompson posted...
So I just heard that Ukraine destroyed a Russian corvette in Crimea before it had even been fully finished.
Russia continues to lose a naval war to a country with no navy.

It's one reason why Russia is moving their entire black fleet to the other side of Ukraine to newly occupied territory on the mainland.

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ROBANN_88
11/05/23 5:17:36 PM
#439:


it used to be that a navy set in port is useless but safe

i guess the "safe" part isn't true anymore

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UnholyMudcrab
11/05/23 6:45:06 PM
#440:


ROBANN_88 posted...
it used to be that a navy set in port is useless but safe

i guess the "safe" part isn't true anymore
The fleet in being was a naval concept for a long time, at least until the advent of air power.

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Ferarri619
11/06/23 3:26:32 AM
#441:


Corvette? The Chevy sports car?

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Dark_Arbron
11/06/23 3:45:21 AM
#442:


ROBANN_88 posted...
it used to be that a navy set in port is useless but safe

i guess the "safe" part isn't true anymore

It hasnt really been true since, what, 1942?

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videospirit
11/06/23 3:53:45 AM
#443:


Dark_Arbron posted...
It hasnt really been true since, what, 1942?

Off the top of my head, the American navy docked in pearl harbor got wrecked in December 1941.

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Foppe
11/06/23 3:55:34 AM
#444:


Ferarri619 posted...
Corvette? The Chevy sports car?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette

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Dark_Arbron
11/06/23 3:56:34 AM
#445:


videospirit posted...
Off the top of my head, the American navy docked in pearl harbor got wrecked in December 1941.

I didnt double check the date and we didnt really cover it in my schooling, so I just took a punt on well the US got involved in 1942 so that must be when the attack happened.

And I lost that punt.

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Kradek
11/06/23 3:56:49 AM
#446:


^ Thanks to that link I've now learned about a "sloop-of-war".

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UnholyMudcrab
11/06/23 4:40:05 AM
#447:


videospirit posted...
Off the top of my head, the American navy docked in pearl harbor got wrecked in December 1941.
Even earlier than that was the attack on the Italian fleet in Taranto in 1940. The Japanese even took inspiration from the tactics that the British used to deploy air power against a fleet at anchor in shallow water.

That's not to say the concept of the fleet in being was entirely dead, though. The German battleship Tirpitz fired her guns in anger precisely once in the entire war, and in a shore bombardment role at that, yet still she scared the pants off the British just by existing within striking range of their convoys. For nearly three years, every convoy going to the USSR had to be protected from the potential threat, and every ship assigned to convoy escort duty was a ship that couldn't be used elsewhere.

Convoy PQ 17 is probably the best example of the threat posed by Tirpitz. The British caught a message that she was going to sail and attack the convoy, so they panicked and ordered everyone to scatter and fend for themselves. Tirpitz never actually attacked, and the convoy was picked apart by U-boats. Less than a third of the convoy's merchant ships made it to their destination in the Soviet Union.

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Sahel
11/06/23 3:58:17 PM
#448:


Ukrainian Forces are fighting Wagner in Sudan.
https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1721587250528399747

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videospirit
11/06/23 10:04:05 PM
#450:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Is this just training for them or what?

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