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ROBANN_88
07/31/23 1:07:00 PM
#101:


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I believe you're thinking of the Kerch bridge, the one connecting Crimea to Russia.
This is one connecting Crimea to mainland (temporarily occupied) Ukraine

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Questionmarktarius
07/31/23 1:09:38 PM
#102:


isn't there a land connection between Crimea and Ukraine?
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Unsuprised_Pika
07/31/23 1:11:32 PM
#104:


Sahel posted...
Ukraine has publicly unveiled their new sea drones. They are remote control with a range of 500 miles. They move too quickly for the Russian Navy to counter them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-unveiled-new-sea-drone-black-sea-wipe-out-russia-2023-7?amp

Russian ships go fuck yourself.

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ROBANN_88
07/31/23 1:28:01 PM
#105:


Questionmarktarius posted...
isn't there a land connection between Crimea and Ukraine?

I'm actually not sure on the Crimean geography
Let's find out

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toreysback
07/31/23 1:29:12 PM
#106:


Isthmus of Perekop

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Xenogears15
07/31/23 1:35:05 PM
#107:


ROBANN_88 posted...
I believe you're thinking of the Kerch bridge, the one connecting Crimea to Russia.
This is one connecting Crimea to mainland (temporarily occupied) Ukraine

This is the second time that Ukraine has hit Chonhar, actually.

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Humble_Novice
07/31/23 3:39:56 PM
#108:


https://news.yahoo.com/putin-forming-mysterious-private-armies-103019924.html

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Kaiganeer
08/01/23 12:23:45 AM
#109:


tickling moscow with drones is kind of a bad look

they should be storm-shadowing every single military installation western intelligence deems as having minimal AA that they can find
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Chev427BB
08/01/23 2:21:07 AM
#110:


Confirmation of Ukrainians breaching Russian defenses north of Robotyne and finally reaching the dragons teeth and anti-tank ditch on the main Russian defense line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STwXO5k0_3k

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/47.4572/35.9181

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DarkChozoGhost
08/01/23 2:41:31 AM
#111:


Chev427BB posted...
Confirmation of Ukrainians breaching Russian defenses north of Robotyne and finally reaching the dragons teeth and anti-tank ditch on the main Russian defense line

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STwXO5k0_3k

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/47.4572/35.9181
Nice. I wonder if they'll pull off that push

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Chev427BB
08/01/23 2:43:21 AM
#112:


they will probably need to bring in engineers to level out parts of the anti-tank ditch so they can cross it in force. If that ditch is compromised that's already a significant breach in the main Russian defense line.

In fact this may have already happened, this is all information from a few days ago and I seem to remember seeing pictures of Ukrainian forces in an area with dragons teeth moved aside.

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Humble_Novice
08/01/23 2:52:32 AM
#113:


https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15dk9s0/pentagon_will_buy_starlink_terminals_for_ukraine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15e8tbe/ukrainian_hackers_troll_russian_navy_sent_them/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15ee1pj/ukraine_repairs_100_of_thermal_generation/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15eh1d0/wagner_group_claims_it_halts_recruitment/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15em8xg/ukrainian_armed_forces_disable_railway_bridge/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15eortp/russians_lost_16_pieces_of_equipment_in_tavria/

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LaLeyenda
08/01/23 10:57:02 AM
#114:


Humble_Novice posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15e8tbe/ukrainian_hackers_troll_russian_navy_sent_them/
If that video was sent to Putin he would be like damn, this is as bad as the times the Russian National Anthem was butchered by Egypt and Saudi Arabia years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OxK4lPRoww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-VydZ2wArE

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Foppe
08/01/23 2:46:03 PM
#115:


https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/komunikat-mon-granica
Two Belarus military helicopters entered Polish airspace without permission.

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s0nicfan
08/01/23 2:47:54 PM
#116:


Foppe posted...
https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/komunikat-mon-granica
Two Belarus military helicopters entered Polish airspace without permission.

Belarus really is Italy to Putin's Nazi Germany. Every time they try to do anything it's a giant fuck up that Russia will ultimately have to deal with because otherwise it'll make their own fight that much harder.

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thronedfire2
08/01/23 7:18:51 PM
#118:


Humble_Novice posted...
Apparently, no one died in that incident.

seems like it was a business district at night so probably no one in the building

probably still scary to work in the surrounding offices knowing youre in drone range

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s0nicfan
08/01/23 7:20:35 PM
#119:


thronedfire2 posted...
seems like it was a business district at night so probably no one in the building

probably still scary to work in the surrounding offices knowing youre in drone range

It was a fair military target and they did it at night to send a message because they don't actually want to kill civilians:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66368016
The building houses teams from Russia's ministry of economic development, the digital ministry, and the ministry of industry and trade. Staff at the former have been told to work from home, Reuters news agency reports.

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thronedfire2
08/01/23 8:07:37 PM
#120:


s0nicfan posted...
It was a fair military target and they did it at night to send a message because they don't actually want to kill civilians:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66368016

oh yep fair enough then.

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andel
08/01/23 8:12:35 PM
#121:


i don't really agree with attacking targets in moscow because there is nothing they can attack that will actually change the balance of the war. i think it's cool if they fund russian groups to try and take russian towns or w/e but attacking empty buildings in moscow seems like a waste of resources to me.

obv ukraine is the victim here and they may have a strategy i just don't understand, but i am hoping they start using some of their fancy new toys to drive the orcs out of more and more ukrainian territory

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Son_Of_Spam
08/01/23 8:30:01 PM
#122:


andel posted...
i don't really agree with attacking targets in moscow because there is nothing they can attack that will actually change the balance of the war. i think it's cool if they fund russian groups to try and take russian towns or w/e but attacking empty buildings in moscow seems like a waste of resources to me.

obv ukraine is the victim here and they may have a strategy i just don't understand, but i am hoping they start using some of their fancy new toys to drive the orcs out of more and more ukrainian territory
They're doing a more humane version of what Russia is doing to them with Shaheds. Forcing Russia to commit valuable air defense assets far from the front lines using cheap drones.

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DarkChozoGhost
08/01/23 10:52:27 PM
#125:


And it's showing them the air defense systems are useless. The air defense systems that they clearly put up to bluff security

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andel
08/02/23 12:28:33 AM
#126:


Son_Of_Spam posted...
They're doing a more humane version of what Russia is doing to them with Shaheds. Forcing Russia to commit valuable air defense assets far from the front lines using cheap drones.

this could make sense if they have plenty of those drones. i guess they are cheap drones like the russians use?

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ah this makes sense. if they are trying to foment discontent with the russian population that would be brilliant if it ends up working. i know many russians are pissed about how the war is going from the ultra nationalists to the people that just don't want to be involved in a war. russians are losing economically more and more as it drags on and they have already lost many western brands that they like. if this kinda strategy allows the ukrainians to put pressure on the putin regime while not using up valuable resources i can see how it would be brilliant if it moves the needle even a little. hopefully they continue avoiding any attacks on russian civilians at least

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Foppe
08/02/23 6:37:38 AM
#127:


Russia starts their naval exercise in the Baltic Sea today, called Ocean Shield 2023.
It involves 30 bigger ships, 20 support vessels, 30 airplanes and 6000 marines.

Putin will travel to Turkey in the near future to talk about a new grain agreement. Unlike some African countries, Turkey is not forced to arrest him when he leaves his airplane.

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Thompson
08/02/23 6:39:50 AM
#128:


Let's hope it's an actual exercise and not a "Sike! We're taking Gotland!" operation.

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ROBANN_88
08/02/23 11:13:42 AM
#129:


Foppe posted...
Unlike some African countries, Turkey is not forced to arrest him when he leaves his airplane.

Why not?

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Humble_Novice
08/02/23 11:24:07 AM
#130:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Why not?
Because Erdogan likes Putin: https://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-special-relationship-russia-grow-recep-tayyip-erdogan-valdimir-putin/

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CADE_FOSTER
08/02/23 11:26:34 AM
#131:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
And it's showing them the air defense systems are useless. The air defense systems that they clearly put up to bluff security
This so much propaganda about Russia's supposed undefeatable missle defense system lol sure getting defeated
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Foppe
08/02/23 11:31:51 AM
#132:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Why not?
Turkey have not accepted the International Criminal Court, and is thereby not forced to follow it.

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Halo478
08/02/23 12:07:56 PM
#133:


https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20120

Looks like a himars rockets took out 200 Russian soldiers on a beach

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Humble_Novice
08/02/23 12:10:57 PM
#135:


Halo478 posted...
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/20120

Looks like a himars rockets took out 200 Russian soldiers on a beach
Oh.

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DarkChozoGhost
08/02/23 3:22:42 PM
#136:


CADE_FOSTER posted...
This so much propaganda about Russia's supposed undefeatable missle defense system lol sure getting defeated
Well, at the very least it has significant holes

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Humble_Novice
08/03/23 3:37:47 AM
#137:


https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15gq8c9/russian_officers_poisoned_while_celebrating_naval/

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Humble_Novice
08/03/23 11:19:32 AM
#138:


https://twitter.com/MsShelly_/status/1684436871265521664

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SgtBash
08/03/23 11:27:23 AM
#139:


How hard would it be to put electronic jamming devices onto a drone?

Like so they could get as close to their target and unleash a lethal payload?

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videospirit
08/03/23 12:41:13 PM
#140:


SgtBash posted...
How hard would it be to put electronic jamming devices onto a drone?

Like so they could get as close to their target and unleash a lethal payload?

I'm no expert, but wouldn't that interfere with the pilots ability to command the drones?

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Foppe
08/03/23 12:46:47 PM
#141:


SgtBash posted...
How hard would it be to put electronic jamming devices onto a drone?

Like so they could get as close to their target and unleash a lethal payload?
Jamming what?
Communication between what?
All communication happen on different frequencies, and to prevent jamming all military communication units should jump between frequencies. Jamming everything requires more hardware and more power, making it heavier. And that wont stop a radar from seeing a drone or a missile being fired at it.
Stealth drones... too costly.
Frying the missiles onboard electricity? You need an EMP, if the missile is not shielded. Which needs a costly shielded drone...
This is overengineering, it would be like building an extremely costly drone that takes longer to build just to shoot the rifle out of somebodys hand before killing him instead of sending 1-3 much cheaper and quicker to build drones that aims at his head.

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SgtBash
08/03/23 12:50:49 PM
#142:


Foppe posted...

Jamming what?
Communication between what?
All communication happen on different frequencies, and to prevent jamming all military communication units should jump between frequencies. Jamming everything requires more hardware and more power, making it heavier. And that wont stop a radar from seeing a drone or a missile being fired at it.
Stealth drones... too costly.
Frying the missiles onboard electricity? You need an EMP, if the missile is not shielded. Which needs a costly shielded drone...
This is overengineering, it would be like building an extremely costly drone that takes longer to build just to shoot the rifle out of somebodys hand before killing him instead of sending 1-3 much cheaper and quicker to build drones that aims at his head.

Fair enough, I'm just trying to think of ways that Ukraine could speed up the end of this senseless war

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Foppe
08/03/23 12:51:10 PM
#143:


videospirit posted...
I'm no expert, but wouldn't that interfere with the pilots ability to command the drones?
Technically you can leave out the frequencies that you use... which could be reverse engineered with some bad luck if they get their hands on a drone.
Having a predetermined way programmed in the drone would also help.

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Kradek
08/03/23 1:22:04 PM
#144:


andel posted...
i don't really agree with attacking targets in moscow because there is nothing they can attack that will actually change the balance of the war. i think it's cool if they fund russian groups to try and take russian towns or w/e but attacking empty buildings in moscow seems like a waste of resources to me.


It's a message to the Kremlin that Kyiv can strike them at their capital any time they want, they just choose not to. If they really wanted to hurt civilians, they'd be emulating Russia's strikes, but they're clearly just sending a message that those fuckers in Moscow sending others to die can be got themselves.

For the civilians, it brings the smallest glimpse of the reality that Ukraine has been suffering with for over a year now. It's easy for the civilian populace to support or turn a blind eye to the actions of their invasion when there's no sense of threat to them.

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Sir_Will
08/03/23 2:41:15 PM
#146:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Targeting civilians is wrong no matter who's doing it.

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s0nicfan
08/03/23 2:44:00 PM
#147:


Sir_Will posted...
Targeting civilians is wrong no matter who's doing it.

Targeting an office building that houses Russian government offices at night when nobody is working isn't targeting civilians/

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Questionmarktarius
08/03/23 2:44:44 PM
#149:


s0nicfan posted...
Targeting an office building that houses Russian government offices at night when nobody is working isn't targeting civilians/
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Sir_Will
08/03/23 2:47:19 PM
#150:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yeah that's a dumb argument

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