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bsp77 07/20/23 12:40:00 PM #52:	RuneterranSnap posted... There's just as much original content as ever, if not more. If you aren't seeing it that's on you. True. I see so many original films every year, but others choose not to while bemoaning the lack of original films. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974957255] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>There's just as much original content as ever, if not more. If you aren't seeing it that's on you.</quote>True. I see so many original films every year, but others choose not to while bemoaning the lack of original films.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 07/20/23 12:44:06 PM #53:	1 is a a new entry in an on-going series. The other is another inferior Disney remake. How are the differing results noteworthy? --- https://i.imgur.com/PpxZDof.png \| https://i.imgur.com/xMGLcGE.png https://i.imgur.com/nsBw6Sy.png \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:974957356] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>1 is a a new entry in an on-going series. The other is another inferior Disney remake. How are the differing results noteworthy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/20/23 12:45:58 PM #54:	bsp77 posted... True. I see so many original films every year, but others choose not to while bemoaning the lack of original films. It's so frustrating seeing them stagnate and people bitch that it's because of all these sequels and remakes crowding them out but no, it's because YOU and people like you didn't fucking go see and support them. --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974957403] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>True. I see so many original films every year, but others choose not to while bemoaning the lack of original films.</quote>It's so frustrating seeing them stagnate and people bitch that it's because of all these sequels and remakes crowding them out but no, it's because YOU and people like you didn't fucking go see and support them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/20/23 12:47:36 PM #55:	There are original films being made, and in abundance, but if you're specifically talking about big budget movies from big studios with insane marketing then yes you will be seeing a lot of remakes, sequels, squeakquels, etc. because they're safe. New IP's will always carry some form of risk and the odds of them getting a big budget to stand up to the likes of MCU movies are going to be miniscule. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:974957446] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>There are original films being made, and in abundance, but if you're specifically talking about big budget movies from big studios with insane marketing then yes you will be seeing a lot of remakes, sequels, squeakquels, etc. because they're safe. New IP's will always carry some form of risk and the odds of them getting a big budget to stand up to the likes of MCU movies are going to be miniscule. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/20/23 12:49:46 PM #56:	RuneterranSnap posted... It's so frustrating seeing them stagnate and people bitch that it's because of all these sequels and remakes crowding them out but no, it's because YOU and people like you didn't fucking go see and support them. I checked my spreadsheet for movies I saw that were released in 2023. Here are the ones that are not sequels, remakes or some kind of franchise: Past Lives Air Asteroid City The Covenant Nimona The Blackening Joy Ride Sisu No Hard Feelings Infinity Pool M3GAN Plane Champions Polite Society Cocaine Bear The Boogeyman Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre Knock at the Cabin Hypnotic 65 Beau is Afraid --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974957491] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>It's so frustrating seeing them stagnate and people bitch that it's because of all these sequels and remakes crowding them out but no, it's because YOU and people like you didn't fucking go see and support them.</quote>I checked my spreadsheet for movies I saw that were released in 2023. Here are the ones that are not sequels, remakes or some kind of franchise:Past Lives Air Asteroid City The Covenant Nimona The Blackening Joy Ride Sisu No Hard Feelings Infinity Pool M3GAN Plane Champions Polite Society Cocaine Bear The Boogeyman Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre Knock at the Cabin Hypnotic 65 Beau is Afraid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/20/23 12:59:53 PM #57:	bsp77 posted... I checked my spreadsheet for movies I saw that were released in 2023. Here are the ones that are not sequels, remakes or some kind of franchise: Past Lives Air Asteroid City The Covenant Nimona The Blackening Joy Ride Sisu No Hard Feelings Infinity Pool M3GAN Plane Champions Polite Society Cocaine Bear The Boogeyman Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre Knock at the Cabin Hypnotic 65 Beau is Afraid Sadly I've only seen two of those, Knock at the Cabin and M3gam, both at home :( But I'm also seeing less movies just in general because it's so expensive --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:974957713] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>I checked my spreadsheet for movies I saw that were released in 2023. Here are the ones that are not sequels, remakes or some kind of franchise:Past Lives Air Asteroid City The Covenant Nimona The Blackening Joy Ride Sisu No Hard Feelings Infinity Pool M3GAN Plane Champions Polite Society Cocaine Bear The Boogeyman Operation Fortune: Ruse de Guerre Knock at the Cabin Hypnotic 65 Beau is Afraid</quote>Sadly I've only seen two of those, Knock at the Cabin and M3gam, both at home :( But I'm also seeing less movies just in general because it's so expensive</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xlr_big-coop 07/20/23 1:02:11 PM #58:	The_Korey posted... 1 is a a new entry in an on-going series. The other is another inferior Disney remake. How are the differing results noteworthy? This. At this point both sides just want products to succeed to talk shit about their opponents. It's hilarious. --- :) <cite>xlr_big-coop posted [p:974957762] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>The_Korey posted... </cite><quote>1 is a a new entry in an on-going series. The other is another inferior Disney remake. How are the differing results noteworthy?</quote>This. At this point both sides just want products to succeed to talk shit about their opponents. It's hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McMarbles 07/20/23 1:02:20 PM #59:	Blue_Popo posted... Both cost about the same (mission impossible more so). Both launched about the same. Both are projecting to do similar numbers but everywhere on the internet little mermaid is being dragged but mission impossible is going unscathed. Both had similar expectations/hype Whats going on Look at the star of MI7 and then look at the star of TLM. --- Currently playing: Stardew Valley (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. <cite>McMarbles posted [p:974957764] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Both cost about the same (mission impossible more so). Both launched about the same. Both are projecting to do similar numbers but everywhere on the internet little mermaid is being dragged but mission impossible is going unscathed. Both had similar expectations/hypeWhats going on</quote>Look at the star of MI7 and then look at the star of TLM.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/20/23 1:10:40 PM #60:	RuneterranSnap posted... Sadly I've only seen two of those, Knock at the Cabin and M3gam, both at home :( But I'm also seeing less movies just in general because it's so expensive I highly recommend Past Lives. Will likely be up for Best Picture, Actress and Original Screenplay. Possibly Director and Supporting Actor as well. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974957918] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Sadly I've only seen two of those, Knock at the Cabin and M3gam, both at home :( But I'm also seeing less movies just in general because it's so expensive</quote>I highly recommend Past Lives. Will likely be up for Best Picture, Actress and Original Screenplay. Possibly Director and Supporting Actor as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akuryu 07/20/23 1:20:22 PM #61:	The Little Mermaid has quietly stuck around the top 10 for a couple months now. A few outlets are reporting it either has broken even, or is very close to breaking even. It's not the success Disney wanted, but I wouldn't call it a flop at this point. Under-performed is probably a better term. We will see this weekend how well Dead Reckoning holds up with Barbie and Oppenheimer soaking up all the premium screens. I don't see it reaching the heights of Fallout, and since it cost $100M more than Fallout to make, that's not ideal. <cite>Akuryu posted [p:974958101] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>The Little Mermaid has quietly stuck around the top 10 for a couple months now. A few outlets are reporting it either has broken even, or is very close to breaking even. It's not the success Disney wanted, but I wouldn't call it a flop at this point. Under-performed is probably a better term. We will see this weekend how well Dead Reckoning holds up with Barbie and Oppenheimer soaking up all the premium screens. I don't see it reaching the heights of Fallout, and since it cost $100M more than Fallout to make, that's not ideal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/20/23 1:22:23 PM #62:	bsp77 posted... Now this is true. But this wasn't stated before. You said they would do similar numbers. They won't. But yes, they will both likely lose a little money theatrically, and maybe be similar from that aspect. However, both movies were hurt by Covid delays and protocols. I saw something about how the Little Mermaid budget was $200M but Covid pushed it to $250M. We know Dead Reckoning is $290, but not what it should have been. I am guessing it was hit by more than $50M as it had more delays and issues than Little Mermaid. Personally, I don't think either movie should be considered a flop based on this. Let's reserve the flop terminology for the recent DC movies and Indiana Jones. This is a level headed and accurate response. Both movies may be a net positive when all other things are considered (ancillary income plus streaming content) but one is widely touted as a flop and the other isnt when both will hit similar level success for their studios, both had a lot of hype and both are big franchises <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:974958140] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>Now this is true. But this wasn't stated before. You said they would do similar numbers. They won't. But yes, they will both likely lose a little money theatrically, and maybe be similar from that aspect.However, both movies were hurt by Covid delays and protocols. I saw something about how the Little Mermaid budget was $200M but Covid pushed it to $250M. We know Dead Reckoning is $290, but not what it should have been. I am guessing it was hit by more than $50M as it had more delays and issues than Little Mermaid.Personally, I don't think either movie should be considered a flop based on this. Let's reserve the flop terminology for the recent DC movies and Indiana Jones.</quote>This is a level headed and accurate response. Both movies may be a net positive when all other things are considered (ancillary income plus streaming content) but one is widely touted as a flop and the other isnt when both will hit similar level success for their studios, both had a lot of hype and both are big franchises</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/20/23 1:24:15 PM #63:	It's almost like one is a remake of a beloved classic while the other is sequel number whatever. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974958174] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like one is a remake of a beloved classic while the other is sequel number whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/20/23 1:26:55 PM #64:	voldothegr8 posted... It's almost like one is a remake of a beloved classic while the other is sequel number whatever. Wording is everything. One is a remake in a series of mixed received to underwhelming remakes, one is a sequel to multiple well received titles with arguably the biggest star in the world right now See how it works <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:974958235] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>It's almost like one is a remake of a beloved classic while the other is sequel number whatever.</quote>Wording is everything.One is a remake in a series of mixed received to underwhelming remakes, one is a sequel to multiple well received titles with arguably the biggest star in the world right nowSee how it works</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/20/23 1:27:42 PM #65:	Blue_Popo posted... This is a level headed and accurate response. Both movies may be a net positive when all other things are considered (ancillary income plus streaming content) but one is widely touted as a flop and the other isnt when both will hit similar level success for their studios, both had a lot of hype and both are big franchises Agree. And I realize that your point was that the industry has treated them differently. I think the industry was unfair to The Little Mermaid. I also think the industry is afraid to cross Tom Cruise lol If it means anything, my 4 daughters adored The Little Mermaid, and I thought it was surprisingly decent (other than the murky underwater CGI) Mission Impossible was awesome of course, but Fallout is still my favorite of the series. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974958251] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>This is a level headed and accurate response. Both movies may be a net positive when all other things are considered (ancillary income plus streaming content) but one is widely touted as a flop and the other isnt when both will hit similar level success for their studios, both had a lot of hype and both are big franchises</quote>Agree. And I realize that your point was that the industry has treated them differently. I think the industry was unfair to The Little Mermaid. I also think the industry is afraid to cross Tom Cruise lolIf it means anything, my 4 daughters adored The Little Mermaid, and I thought it was surprisingly decent (other than the murky underwater CGI)Mission Impossible was awesome of course, but Fallout is still my favorite of the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/20/23 1:31:03 PM #66:	Blue_Popo posted... Wording is everything. One is a remake in a series of mixed received to underwhelming remakes, one is a sequel to multiple well received titles with arguably the biggest star in the world right now See how it works Except it's not part of a series, nice try though. You can call it a trend, but then your attempt doesn't work. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974958332] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>Wording is everything.One is a remake in a series of mixed received to underwhelming remakes, one is a sequel to multiple well received titles with arguably the biggest star in the world right nowSee how it works</quote>Except it's not part of a series, nice try though. You can call it a trend, but then your attempt doesn't work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 07/20/23 1:32:43 PM #67:	I feel like the issue with movies is most people don't want to spend these crazy high ticket and concession prices unless it's a big name director or franchise, and even then, the whims of the public are unguessable. --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:974958374] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>I feel like the issue with movies is most people don't want to spend these crazy high ticket and concession prices unless it's a big name director or franchise, and even then, the whims of the public are unguessable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/20/23 1:35:44 PM #68:	C_Pain posted... the whims of the public are unguessable. As someone who analyzes the box office, partly because I am part of a box office fantasy league, this is a very true statement post pandemic --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974958430] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>C_Pain posted... </cite><quote>the whims of the public are unguessable.</quote>As someone who analyzes the box office, partly because I am part of a box office fantasy league, this is a very true statement post pandemic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Popo 07/20/23 5:35:43 PM #69:	voldothegr8 posted... Except it's not part of a series, nice try though. You can call it a trend, but then your attempt doesn't work. The disney remakes are eseentially a series <cite>Blue_Popo posted [p:974963193] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Except it's not part of a series, nice try though. You can call it a trend, but then your attempt doesn't work.</quote>The disney remakes are eseentially a series</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Requiem 07/20/23 5:42:39 PM #70:	I guess Barbie is the last hope for breaking the bad run from major studios this summer? --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex <cite>Requiem posted [p:974963341] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>I guess Barbie is the last hope for breaking the bad run from major studios this summer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/20/23 5:51:44 PM #71:	The box office certainly feels like feast or famine right now. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:974963556] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>The box office certainly feels like feast or famine right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/20/23 6:13:23 PM #72:	Blue_Popo posted... The disney remakes are eseentially a series Except not, not anymore of a "series" when the animated movies were released. It's not a continuation of anything, it shares no characters, it's a remake of a beloved classic. Mission Impossible is a sequel with a Part 1 in the title. Nobody gives a shit, people give a shit about their beloved classic. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974963980] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Popo posted... </cite><quote>The disney remakes are eseentially a series</quote>Except not, not anymore of a "series" when the animated movies were released. It's not a continuation of anything, it shares no characters, it's a remake of a beloved classic. Mission Impossible is a sequel with a Part 1 in the title. Nobody gives a shit, people give a shit about their beloved classic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blackrider76 07/20/23 6:18:17 PM #73:	Im not even an MI fan and saying nobody gives a shit about it is ridiculous when its like FnF except its actually taken seriously. Or at least as serious as what crazy stunts can Tom Cruise pull off this time instead of what physics will cars/Dom/FAMILY break next. --- Preparation is the last refuge of the weak <cite>blackrider76 posted [p:974964071] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Im not even an MI fan and saying nobody gives a shit about it is ridiculous when its like FnF except its actually taken seriously.Or at least as serious as what crazy stunts can Tom Cruise pull off this time instead of what physics will cars/Dom/FAMILY break next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/20/23 6:21:31 PM #74:	blackrider76 posted... Im not even an MI fan and saying nobody gives a shit about it is ridiculous when its like FnF except its actually taken seriously. That's because those movies sell like hotcakes in China. If I were to be bothered to look I'd bet both franchises have made way more money overseas than domestic. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974964124] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>blackrider76 posted... </cite><quote>Im not even an MI fan and saying nobody gives a shit about it is ridiculous when its like FnF except its actually taken seriously.</quote>That's because those movies sell like hotcakes in China. If I were to be bothered to look I'd bet both franchises have made way more money overseas than domestic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 07/20/23 6:48:17 PM #75:	Punished_Blinx posted... The box office certainly feels like feast or famine right now. Yeah, you're either breaking records or you're bombing/flopping. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:974964638] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite><quote>The box office certainly feels like feast or famine right now.</quote>Yeah, you're either breaking records or you're bombing/flopping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AndreLeGeant 07/20/23 6:50:57 PM #76:	Requiem posted... I guess Barbie is the last hope for breaking the bad run from major studios this summer? Barbie will do well as it had a $100M budget --- "Not only is Andre way smarter than you, he's also way smarter than you think you are." - SaikyoStyle <cite>AndreLeGeant posted [p:974964686] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Requiem posted... </cite><quote>I guess Barbie is the last hope for breaking the bad run from major studios this summer?</quote>Barbie will do well as it had a $100M budget</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 07/20/23 7:20:27 PM #77:	the only reason i even knew MI7 was out was a throwaway segment at the beginning of the new redlettermedia video where they said they didnt really care to review it --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:974965206] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>the only reason i even knew MI7 was out was a throwaway segment at the beginning of the new redlettermedia video where they said they didnt really care to review it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 07/20/23 7:31:15 PM #78:	Right winger: "I hate woke movies that cast black actors!" Right Winger: "I am told to hate China!" China: "We hate movies with black actors!" Right Winger: "Not so fast! I still hate you China... I must hate China still...right we didn't go back to living them?...okay got it. We still hate China for now but kinda admire their overt racism!" --- If what you believe is truthful and just, you shouldn't have to posture as someone or something else. <cite>Torgo posted [p:974965395] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>Right winger: "I hate woke movies that cast black actors!"Right Winger: "I am told to hate China!"China: "We hate movies with black actors!"Right Winger: "Not so fast! I still hate you China... I must hate China still...right we didn't go back to living them?...okay got it. We still hate China for now but kinda admire their overt racism!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 07/20/23 7:39:27 PM #79:	ultimate_reaver posted... the only reason i even knew MI7 was out was a throwaway segment at the beginning of the new redlettermedia video where they said they didnt really care to review it Cool story, bro --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy XVI <cite>bsp77 posted [p:974965516] in Little mer... [t:80513944]...</cite> <quote>ultimate_reaver posted... </cite><quote>the only reason i even knew MI7 was out was a throwaway segment at the beginning of the new redlettermedia video where they said they didnt really care to review it</quote>Cool story, bro</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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