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Blue_Popo
07/20/23 10:17:51 AM
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Both cost about the same (mission impossible more so). Both launched about the same. Both are projecting to do similar numbers but everywhere on the internet little mermaid is being dragged but mission impossible is going unscathed. Both had similar expectations/hype

Whats going on
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ironman2009
07/20/23 10:19:01 AM
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I seen them both before. Little mermaid came out in the 90s. Mission impossible came out atleast 6 times before.

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Torgo
07/20/23 10:22:15 AM
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Little Mermaid had a black actress playing a role that had been previously portrayed as white.

Mission Impossible has a lead actor that is of the "non-political" race.


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RchHomieQuanChi
07/20/23 10:23:55 AM
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Mission Impossible also flopping hurts the narrative that the "woke agenda" is the main problem with Hollywood, so they just quietly sweep the movie under the rug like it didn't happen

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bigblu89
07/20/23 10:25:17 AM
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There's nothing for the "Woke Mob" to complain about in Mission Impossible.

That's why.

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gatorsPENSbucs
07/20/23 10:26:33 AM
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The mission impossible movie came out like last week? Give it time.

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FortuneCookie
07/20/23 10:27:17 AM
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Any films that aren't flopping right now?
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deoxxys
07/20/23 10:27:52 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
The mission impossible movie came out like last week? Give it time.


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Revisited
07/20/23 10:29:05 AM
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Mi 7 will only make half a billion? That doesn't sound right. It's more likely to reach close to the billion mark. MI 6 was closest
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Smashingpmkns
07/20/23 10:35:39 AM
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MI will have legs. Also the budget ballooned because of covid. It was half the budget before shutdowns. That and profiting on $300mil+ budgets is just an insane expectation for any movie.

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blackrider76
07/20/23 10:37:11 AM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Both had similar expectations/hype

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BunkerBoy
07/20/23 10:56:11 AM
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The cons were crying about Little Mermaid long before anyone knew what quality of movie it would be
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Blue_Popo
07/20/23 10:57:20 AM
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Mission impossible 7 is projected to make tops 40mil in china. Fallout made 140 mil so theres 100mil lost. Its running similar or less number in the US with barbie/oppenheimer about to destroy

Its doing well everywhere else but it wont even hit fallout numbers
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Blue_Popo
07/20/23 11:32:03 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Any films that aren't flopping right now?

Mario, guardians 3, john wick, creed, cocaine bear elememtal is un flopping, spidermam across the spiderverse
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Prestoff
07/20/23 11:38:10 AM
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MI 7 has legs to go off from. It's apples to oranges comparison, but Top Gun Maverick also took time to take off before it made over a billion dollars off the BO. Little Mermaid? Not soo much. I'm sure there's a lot of hate for Little Mermaid for having a black actress, but most of the well deserved hate is simply being inferior over the animated movies... you know like almost all of the live action flicks. I wish Disney would go after all the IP's they had that flopped or got bad reviews and make those into live action movies but try to improve on them, instead of taking something already great and making something worst.

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FortuneCookie
07/20/23 11:40:29 AM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Mario, guardians 3, john wick, creed, cocaine bear elememtal is un flopping, spidermam across the spiderverse

I can see why there would be flops with so much competition at the box office. People only have so much money to spend on movie tickets.
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lolife67
07/20/23 11:41:06 AM
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Prestoff posted...
most of the well deserved hate is simply being inferior over the animated movies.
This is wrong , though. Most of the people who've actually seen the film think it was very good. So anyone having the idea you mentioned had likely not seen it.
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theAteam
07/20/23 11:44:05 AM
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MI was weird there was a ton of marketing a few months ago but it died down and I hadn't even realized it already came out.

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Prestoff
07/20/23 11:45:12 AM
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lolife67 posted...
This is wrong , though. Most of the people who've actually seen the film think it was very good. So anyone having the idea you mentioned had likely not seen it.

You're right, I never saw it but almost everyone that I know that has seen it all come to the same conclusion, it's inferior to the animated movie. This isn't just unique to Little Mermaid though, but all of the Disney live action, with maybe an exception to Jungle Book and Cinderella live action movies.

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lolife67
07/20/23 11:46:52 AM
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Prestoff posted...
You're right, I never saw it but almost everyone that I know that has seen it all come to the same conclusion, it's inferior to the animated movie. This isn't just unique to Little Mermaid though, but all of the Disney live action, with maybe an exception to Jungle Book and Cinderella live action movies.
Well I have seen it and have the exact opposite stance. As do the people I know who've seen it and the general audience ratings back that up.
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Prestoff
07/20/23 11:49:33 AM
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lolife67 posted...
Well I have seen it and have the exact opposite stance. As do the people I know who've seen it and the general audience ratings back that up.

Good for you.

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Torgo
07/20/23 11:51:35 AM
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It doesn't matter to the reactionary right.

Super Mario bros. was super woke feminist anti-men until it did gangbusters in box office returns.

Then they came up with new reasons why it was actually anti-woke all along, and previous narratives never existed.


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TaylorHeinicke
07/20/23 11:52:57 AM
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I thought ppl were saying MI was incredible

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Prestoff
07/20/23 11:54:52 AM
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Torgo posted...
It doesn't matter to the reactionary right.

Super Mario bros. was super woke feminist anti-men until it did gangbusters in box office returns.

Then they came up with new reasons why it was actually anti-woke all along, and previous narratives never existed.

Yeah this shit makes no sense to me. Princess Peach is everything that the anti-woke crowd hates in female characters, but yet she gets a free pass because Mario movie made billions and it fit into their agenda of being "anti-Disney". If the movie flopped, no doubt they would've targeted Princess Peach as the main culprit.

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Cuticrusader09
07/20/23 11:57:13 AM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
I thought ppl were saying MI was incredible
Dont matter. Barbie & Oppenheimer are out this week & people would rather see something new.
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RuneterranSnap
07/20/23 11:58:40 AM
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Cuticrusader09 posted...
Dont matter. Barbie & Oppenheimer are out this week & people would rather see something new.
Mi7 is also something new, and better than either of those

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Torgo
07/20/23 11:59:58 AM
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Prestoff posted...
Yeah this shit makes no sense to me. Princess Peach is everything that the anti-woke crowd hates in female characters, but yet she gets a free pass because Mario movie made billions and it fit into their agenda of being "anti-Disney". If the movie flopped, no doubt they would've targeted Princess Peach as the main culprit.

Thing is, Peach is basically whatever she needs to be for each iteration. Sometimes damsel in distress, sometimes stoic and noble princess, sometimes just a generic girl audience stand in, sometimes a hot tempered hero.

It's a silly cartoon franchise based on action platformer, racing, and party games, with minimal story.

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bsp77
07/20/23 12:02:03 PM
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Mission Impossible will end with much more than Little Mermaid worldwide. Exactly how much is TBD. Typically, it would leg out to Fallout numbers but I think Barbenheimer will hurt its legs.

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Gamespoht
07/20/23 12:02:58 PM
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Torgo posted...
It doesn't matter to the reactionary right.

Super Mario bros. was super woke feminist anti-men until it did gangbusters in box office returns.

Then they came up with new reasons why it was actually anti-woke all along, and previous narratives never existed.
Damn that shit is hilarious, all they have to do was pretend they never had conflicting opinions and ofc their pathetic chuddy fans never call it out either

At least when movies like Captain Marvel or TROS didn't "flop" from wokeness they blamed it on "paid reviewers" and still stuck to their delusions but with Mario they switched gears fast

Whatever gets them the bag I guess lol

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FortuneCookie
07/20/23 12:04:01 PM
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Tom Cruise has it in his contract that his likeness cannot be used in merchandising. He had Funko Pop to pull a toy of his character from The Mummy even though it was borderline faceless.

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I find it amusing that he would lose at the box office to a literal doll.
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bsp77
07/20/23 12:04:10 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
I thought ppl were saying MI was incredible
It is. We are talking box office revenue vs massive budget (driven up by Covid delays)

Keep up.

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Heineken14
07/20/23 12:08:46 PM
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Prestoff posted...


Yeah this shit makes no sense to me. Princess Peach is everything that the anti-woke crowd hates in female characters, but yet she gets a free pass because Mario movie made billions and it fit into their agenda of being "anti-Disney". If the movie flopped, no doubt they would've targeted Princess Peach as the main culprit.


Pretty much. Like all things right wing, it's Schrodinger's Woke. You just replace woke with whatever insane bullshit they are crying about at any given time.

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PraetorXyn
07/20/23 12:13:11 PM
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Because theres nothing controversial about MI7.

As to why movies are flopping, I would imagine most movies are flopping simply because over the pandemic people got used to sitting on their couch streaming them live shortly after release on HBO Max instead of going to the theater and spending $10+ per ticket and probably $20 for a large popcorn and soda the way prices are these days.

I think the smart thing is to save the theater experience for things that are worth it, like the Dune movie for example would probably benefit a lot from IMAX.

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Blue_Popo
07/20/23 12:13:27 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Mission Impossible will end with much more than Little Mermaid worldwide. Exactly how much is TBD. Typically, it would leg out to Fallout numbers but I think Barbenheimer will hurt its legs.

Its already making less than that dumb conspiracy theorist movie sound of freedom and china is gone for it

Mission impossible fallout made 700 plus with 150 from china. 100 of that is wiped out. Its going to be in the 600s like little mermaid
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deanshow
07/20/23 12:16:29 PM
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With how inflation and how expensive shit is, I don't blame people especially with big families, to just wait for movies to on VOD for the price of a movie ticket. Plus when you release blockbuster after blockbuster without giving it room to breathe, the profits are gonna be halved or short. The studios shot themselves in the foot with the scheduling of blockbusters

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Smashingpmkns
07/20/23 12:16:51 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Because theres nothing controversial about MI7.

As to why movies are flopping, I would imagine most movies are flopping simply because over the pandemic people got used to sitting on their couch streaming the. Live shortly after release on HBO Max instead of going to the theater and spending $10+ per ticket and probably $20 for a large popcorn and soda the way prices are these days.

I think the smart thing is to save the theater experience for things that are worth it, like the Dune movie for example would probably benefit a lot from IMAX.
There's really not many other action franchises that deserve a theatrical viewing as much as MI does.

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lolife67
07/20/23 12:19:16 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
As to why movies are flopping, I would imagine most movies are flopping simply because over the pandemic people got used to sitting on their couch streaming the. Live shortly after release on HBO Max instead of going to the theater and spending $10+ per ticket and probably $20 for a large popcorn and soda the way prices are these days.
This is exactly why. Add to it that budgets for these current films were inflated due to COVID and that's why we're at this point. Things still haven't normalized to pre-pandemic levels.
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bsp77
07/20/23 12:22:54 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Its already making less than that dumb conspiracy theorist movie sound of freedom and china is gone for it

Mission impossible fallout made 700 plus with 150 from china. 100 of that is wiped out. Its going to be in the 600s like little mermaid
Little Mermaid is at about $550 and not making hardly any more.

Dead Reckoning is running about 15% ahead of Fallout after about a week, and that is accounting for the dropoff in China. But once again, the legs will be hurt by Barbenheimer, so I don't think it will hit Fallout levels.

What I wrote in post 28 still holds true.

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A_Good_Boy
07/20/23 12:23:39 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Because theres nothing controversial about MI7.
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Blue_Popo
07/20/23 12:24:23 PM
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bsp77 posted...
Little Mermaid is at about $550 and not making hardly any more.

Dead Reckoning is running about 15% ahead of Fallout after about a week, and that is accounting for the dropoff in China. But once again, the legs will be hurt by Barbenheimer, so I don't think it will hit Fallout levels.

What I wrote in post 28 still holds true.

Also cost 40 million more which requires box office 2.5x more. So it needs 100mil more to be similar level flop
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colliding
07/20/23 12:25:26 PM
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the country is poor af right now. a lot of people can't afford to see movies they know aren't going to be great.

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bsp77
07/20/23 12:28:55 PM
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Blue_Popo posted...
Also cost 40 million more which requires box office 2.5x more. So it needs 100mil more to be similar level flop
Now this is true. But this wasn't stated before. You said they would do similar numbers. They won't. But yes, they will both likely lose a little money theatrically, and maybe be similar from that aspect.

However, both movies were hurt by Covid delays and protocols. I saw something about how the Little Mermaid budget was $200M but Covid pushed it to $250M. We know Dead Reckoning is $290, but not what it should have been. I am guessing it was hit by more than $50M as it had more delays and issues than Little Mermaid.

Personally, I don't think either movie should be considered a flop based on this. Let's reserve the flop terminology for the recent DC movies and Indiana Jones.

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PesticideDream
07/20/23 12:30:35 PM
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I honestly didn't know MI 7 was out already. Maybe poor marketing?
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Gamespoht
07/20/23 12:30:44 PM
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I hope sequels and remakes flop more honestly, it should be a sign that audiences want more original projects over seeing Harrison Ford's ol dusty ass or yet another nostalgic cash grab

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RuneterranSnap
07/20/23 12:32:36 PM
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Gamespoht posted...
I hope sequels and remakes flop more honestly, it should be a sign that audiences want more original projects over seeing Harrison Ford's ol dusty ass or yet another nostalgic cash grab
Nut audiences are fine with sequels and remakes, always have been, and always will be.

Because nothing is wrong with them.

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Iodine
07/20/23 12:32:39 PM
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But it is shocking that MI7 isn't doing better. It was a great movie.

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bsp77
07/20/23 12:33:43 PM
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PesticideDream posted...
I honestly didn't know MI 7 was out already. Maybe poor marketing?
No, it had tons of marketing

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Gamespoht
07/20/23 12:35:41 PM
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RuneterranSnap posted...
Nut audiences are fine with sequels and remakes, always have been, and always will be.

Because nothing is wrong with them.
Nothing is wrong with them but I would like less of them to oversaturate the cinema

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RuneterranSnap
07/20/23 12:37:58 PM
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Gamespoht posted...
Nothing is wrong with them but I would like less of them to oversaturate the cinema
There's just as much original content as ever, if not more. If you aren't seeing it that's on you.

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