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andel
07/08/23 5:12:32 PM
#106:


you would think someone that has a super public profile like hill wouldn't be so obviously insecure but it just shows that people anywhere can have massive red flags. apparently she is a professional surfer and part of that is going to be self promotion via social media. good for her for not sacrificing her career and happiness for some dudes insecurities

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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:15:29 PM
#107:


As an example, even Destiny disagrees. As Destiny States
-He outlined his limits and boundaries
-He gave her an out and told her that she pretty much doesn't have to be with him
-She's the one who leaked their private convo. LONG After their relationship ended(he's with another woman )
https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1677775034973147136
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Drumiester
07/08/23 5:17:29 PM
#108:


Men are insecure.
The Grass is green.
Women are...*gets shot*

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Autocraticus
07/08/23 5:19:17 PM
#109:


What the fuck ever happened to, I don't know, talking with your partner about these issues? If you arent happy, then leave.
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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:19:55 PM
#110:


voldothegr8 posted...
Because the topic at hand is about a man telling a woman what to do and how to behave. Yes it happens both ways, but that's a different issue. The topic at hand is about Jonah Hill being a controlling scumbag.
He's displaying his limits, and telling her that she can leave if she doesn't agree with this. It's called talking. People do this all the time. People get into disagreements. Destiny, one of the best debaters and someone who actually has had a relationship for several years, agrees

He's not holding her hostage. Nor was he in any big power play to where he had influence over here.

They were dating. It ended. And she brings this up later, when Johna has a new partner and an upcoming CHILD
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NatsuSama
07/08/23 5:20:44 PM
#111:


Autocraticus posted...
What the fuck ever happened to, I don't know, talking with your partner about these issues? If you arent happy, then leave.
I'm not claiming to know the facts to this drama. But if post 107 is true, apparently he did.

The girlfriend is the one who leaked the private conversation after they already broke up.

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Kradek
07/08/23 5:23:30 PM
#112:


Crow0000 posted...
He's displaying his limits, and telling her that she can leave if she doesn't agree with this. It's called talking. People do this all the time. People get into disagreements. Destiny, one of the best debaters and someone who actually has had a relationship for several years, agrees

He's not holding her hostage. Nor was he in any big power play to where he had influence over here.

They were dating. It ended. And she brings this up later, when Johna has a new partner and an upcoming CHILD

So you really see no issue with he himself being a horny dude oggling her surfing pics before they were together condemning her surfing career because of horny dudes who may be oggling her surfing pics? Because that's some major hypocrisy right there that a lot of people with abusive mentalities exhibit, "I get to be like this towards you, but nobody else can"

At the very least that calls for major self-reflection on his part.

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NatsuSama
07/08/23 5:25:43 PM
#113:


Kradek posted...
So you really see no issue with he himself being a horny dude oggling her surfing pics before they were together condemning her surfing career because of horny dudes who may be oggling her surfing pics? Because that's some major hypocrisy right there that a lot of people with abusive mentalities exhibit, "I get to be like this towards you, but nobody else can"

At the very least that calls for major self-reflection on his part.
I'm not sure why his past matters. It's no different then when people claim one shouldn't harp on a woman's past.

If you want to criticize their relationship when it was a relationship that's one thing. But bringing up whatever they both did in the past when they were not dating or even talking to each other to claim it justifies actions in a present when they are dating.....

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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:26:10 PM
#114:


People change their minds. When something becomes serious like an actual relationship, both parties tend to make compromises

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Kradek
07/08/23 5:29:04 PM
#115:


NatsuSama posted...
I'm not sure why his past matters. It's no different then when people claim one shouldn't harp on a woman's past.

If you want to criticize their relationship when it was a relationship that's one thing. But bringing up whatever they both did in the past when they were not dating or even talking to each other to claim it justifies actions in a present when they are dating.....

Because it's directly relevant to what he's taking issue with?

If he's so worried about horny dudes oggling her surfing pics then he should reflect on how he himself was a horny dude oggling her surfing pics in his courtship attempts and ponder as to why he takes no issue with that. Answer, cause he's a self-serving hypocrite, which once again is how a lot of people with abusive mentalities behave.

Crow0000 posted...
People change their minds. When something becomes serious like an actual relationship, both parties tend to make compromises

People being hypocrites with no self-introspection or reflection is also a thing.

If he changed his mind on this he probably would have mentioned it.

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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:32:26 PM
#116:


Destiny putting out facts as usual

https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1677791655615770624

There is 0 evidence that this was "Abuse". People are allowed to set boundaries, change their mind, and grow
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NatsuSama
07/08/23 5:33:34 PM
#117:


Kradek posted...
Because it's directly relevant to what he's taking issue with?
It's not.

Him being some horny guy in the past has absolutely nothing to do with their relationship in what was then the present. If a woman had a bad rep in her past would you be here trying to argue how men should be considering any behavior in her closet she's moved passed saying that woman needs to stop and reflect on her past if she ever gets into a relationship making requests in her newfound relationship?

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Shadow_Don
07/08/23 5:34:02 PM
#118:


legendary_zell posted...
The "therapy bro/buzzword manipulator" is one of the worst types of bros and they're climbing up the ranks fast.

Never even realized this was a thing until you pointed it out but now that you say it I know exactly the person you are talking about.

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Kradek
07/08/23 5:34:44 PM
#119:


You keep bringing up Destiny and early said "even Destiny" as if he's some authority on the subject. Is he trained in psychology or anything that would give him legitimacy to be an authority on the subject?

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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:35:01 PM
#120:


Kradek posted...
You keep bringing up Destiny and early said "even Destiny" as if he's some authority on the subject. Is he trained in psychology or anything that would give him legitimacy to be an authority on the subject?
Yes. He's also one of the best internet debaters, and on top of that, has been in a several year long relationship with his partner, melina. Which means he has more authority and knowledge than 99% of people here who have never kept a relationship
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Kradek
07/08/23 5:37:52 PM
#121:


NatsuSama posted...
It's not.

Him being some horny guy in the past has absolutely nothing to do with their relationship in what was then the present. If a woman had a bad rep in her past would you be here trying to argue how men should be considering any behavior in her closet she's moved passed?

What? We're talking about him being horny over an aspect of her literal career. This is what she's invested and dedicated her life to, this isn't her having a train ran on her at a Halloween party one time 6 years ago.

He literally asked her to choose her career or him and she spent far more time invested in her career before she even knew him, and it's even the only reason he's even attracted to her at all, because once again he's just some horny dude oggling her which he now sees as some huge obscenity.

I stick by what I said. Not outright calling him an abuser, just saying that being a self-serving hypocrite is very much a basic fact of an abusive mentality.

He exposes himself for how shitty he is in this by referring to a tasteful one-piece swimsuit as "a thong".

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NatsuSama
07/08/23 5:40:09 PM
#122:


Kradek posted...
What? We're talking about him being horny over an aspect of her literal career. This is what she's invested and dedicated her life to, this isn't her having a train ran on her at a Halloween party one time 6 years ago.

He literally asked her to choose her career or him and she spent far more time invested in her career before she even knew him, and it's even the only reason he's even attracted to her at all, because once again he's just some horny dude oggling her which he now sees as some huge obscenity.

I stick by what I said. Not outright calling him an abuser, just saying that being a self-serving hypocrite is very much a basic fact of an abusive mentality.

He exposes himself for how shitty he is in this by referring to a tasteful one-piece swimsuit as "a thong".
And my question still stands. If a woman had a bad rep in her past would you be here trying to argue how men should be considering any behavior (not part of her career and just pure gratification andor clout) in her closet she's moved passed saying that woman needs to stop and reflect on her past if she ever gets into a relationship making requests in her newfound relationship?

Because the rationale seems to be from certain types that a man is misogynistic when he ever does it, but it's somehow different when a woman does it.

Him being some horny guy in the past has absolutely nothing to do with their relationship in what was then the present.

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Master_Kazuya
07/08/23 5:43:50 PM
#123:


Crow0000 posted...
https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1677775034973147136

I didn't consider this as much but after reading Destiny point it out, I agree. Regardless of the shitty way Jonah was acting and the unfair things he was demanding, he also didn't consent to have their private messages about their personal relationship leaked publicly. He wasn't forcing her to be in the relationship. She's only doing this to hurt his life.

It sounds like they came to a disagreement and ended it, and then she has to throw this random toxic nuke out of nowhere after the relationship is all said and done.

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Carljank
07/08/23 5:44:31 PM
#124:


Crow0000 posted...
Yes. He's also one of the best internet debaters, and on top of that, has been in a several year long relationship with his partner, melina. Which means he has more authority and knowledge than 99% of people here who have never kept a relationship
Your sealion opinion on a video game streamer's debate skill is not important or relevant.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
07/08/23 5:45:00 PM
#125:


Lmao, move on honey!

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GeraldDarko
07/08/23 5:50:39 PM
#126:


1. Just saying Destiny agrees is nothing more than appeal to authority.
2. You shouldn't need to impose boundaries on the other person, you should have personal boundaries that you adhere to and find someone with the same values. A healthy relationship shouldn't have a list of things the other can't do, that's control, not a true boundary.

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Sp00k
07/08/23 5:50:51 PM
#127:


Master_Kazuya posted...
I didn't consider this as much but after reading Destiny point it out, I agree. Regardless of the shitty way Jonah was acting and the unfair things he was demanding, he also didn't consent to have their private messages about their personal relationship leaked publicly. He wasn't forcing her to be in the relationship. She's only doing this to hurt his life.

It sounds like they came to a disagreement and ended it, and then she has to throw this random toxic nuke out of nowhere after the relationship is all said and done.

Jonah's messaging comes off more sociopathic than reasonable.

Generally speaking these things lack context. Unfortunately he fills in a lot of potential gaps. It is terrible to have your private life outed but it's virtually impossible that he is not complete piece of shit that needs a lot of therapy to undo that.

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Dakimakura
07/08/23 5:51:52 PM
#128:


I need to review the thong image in question before I can make my judgement.

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Crow0000
07/08/23 5:53:08 PM
#129:


GeraldDarko posted...
1. Just saying Destiny agrees is nothing more than appeal to authority.
2. You shouldn't need to impose boundaries on the other person, you should have personal boundaries that you adhere to and find someone with the same values. A healthy relationship shouldn't have a list of things the other can't do, that's control, not a true boundary.
1.Destiny has more authority than you, and most other people on this subject. He amassed his following with blood, sweat, and tears. And has an actual relationship with someone he loves. You know what that means?

It means he and melina both impose boundaries so that both of them remain comfortable with each other and maintain their relationship.

2.Wrong. People have boundaries because there are certain things they may not enjoy what their other partner is doing. A relationship takes work and effort from both sides. If a woman sees her man flirting with other women or or giving her his number. she has a right to call him out on that and set a boundary on that.

The guy can leave and move on. But if the guy wants to stay, then it's more than fair for him to respect his boundaries. and her to respect his boundaries.

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Agent_Stroud
07/08/23 5:55:50 PM
#130:


Jonah Hill is like the real life version of Jimmy DeSanta from GTA V, not gonna lie.

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hockeybub89
07/08/23 5:56:01 PM
#131:


"If you aren't going to change literally your entire life to appease my boundaries, then I guess we're not meant to be together"

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Skankhair
07/08/23 5:56:28 PM
#132:


Hill sounds deeply insecure. He has a lot to work through.
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I4NRulez
07/08/23 5:58:47 PM
#133:


hockeybub89 posted...
"If you aren't going to change literally your entire life to appease my boundaries, then I guess we're not meant to be together"

lol and to think some people in here think thats healthy

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Carljank
07/08/23 5:59:57 PM
#134:


I4NRulez posted...
lol and to think some people in here think thats healthy
Exactly. Don't surf with other men. Can you imagine if she said he can't do acting scenes with women? She'd be called a crazy person.

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GeraldDarko
07/08/23 6:04:44 PM
#135:


Crow0000 posted...
1.Destiny has more authority than you, and most other people on this subject

2.Wrong. People have boundaries because there are certain things they may not enjoy what their other partner is doing. If a woman sees her man flirting with other women or or giving her his number. she has a right to call him out on that.
Just because dude is skilled in debate and in a relationship doesn't mean they have a healthy relationship(i have known clue on his relationship). Just saying look he agrees with me is an appeal to authority unless you articulate a reason why why you've both come to the same conclusion.

Right. It should just be, I wouldn't flirt, nor would I appreciate a partner flirting. There shouldn't be a list of things the other can't do. A healthy relationship comes form a place of mutual respect and understanding. If you need to take the step of listing all the other can't do, there isn't a mutual understanding, but a person setting rules(controling) the other. Yes, even if the partner has their own list.

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hockeybub89
07/08/23 6:08:15 PM
#136:


I4NRulez posted...
lol and to think some people in here think thats healthy
I don't get it. Like yeah everyone has personal boundaries, but starting a relationship with someone and then going "These are my absolute limits. Observe them or leave" is weird as shit. Especially when he is talking about her goddamn livelihood and he found her because he was the guy attracted to her being exactly who she is!

"But she was free to leave" doesn't change the fact that he's a controlling asshole who speaks like a self-help book. Telling the other person what to do to keep you happy is not a healthy relationship.

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BeantownHero
07/08/23 6:19:13 PM
#137:


Multiple things can be true at once

His requests can be absolutely viewed as unreasonable/overbearing

One does have the right to shift what they feel they're comfortable accepting in a relationship

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Delirious_Beard
07/08/23 6:23:51 PM
#138:


Crow0000 posted...
1.Destiny has more authority than you, and most other people on this subject. He amassed his following with blood, sweat, and tears. And has an actual relationship with someone he loves. You know what that means?

It means he and melina both impose boundaries so that both of them remain comfortable with each other and maintain their relationship.

2.Wrong. People have boundaries because there are certain things they may not enjoy what their other partner is doing. A relationship takes work and effort from both sides. If a woman sees her man flirting with other women or or giving her his number. she has a right to call him out on that and set a boundary on that.

The guy can leave and move on. But if the guy wants to stay, then it's more than fair for him to respect his boundaries. and her to respect his boundaries.

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EmilyTheCEman
07/08/23 6:25:27 PM
#139:


Who in the absolute fuck is Destiny?

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UndefeatedGOAT
07/08/23 6:33:23 PM
#140:


EmilyTheCEman posted...
Who in the absolute fuck is Destiny?

what in the absolute fuck is google
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Phoro
07/08/23 6:34:42 PM
#141:


Yeah Idk. I think everyone sucks here. And let's be honest, they were both almost certainly fucking around with other people while they were together. In any case, it's weirdly reassuring to me when I see that being rich and famous really doesn't solve all your problems.

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Skankhair
07/08/23 6:38:42 PM
#142:


EmilyTheCEman posted...
Who in the absolute fuck is Destiny?

Hes a cringey debate bro who is uninformed but talks very fast and repeats himself a lot. He appeals to uninformed people who cant think. Hes like a centrist Ben Shapiro.
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Carljank
07/08/23 6:42:07 PM
#143:


Skankhair posted...
Hes a cringey debate bro who is uninformed but talks very fast and repeats himself a lot. He appeals to uninformed people who cant think. Hes like a centrist Ben Shapiro.
Exactly. People who don't actually understand debating think whoever talks over the other person wins.

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Kradek
07/08/23 6:46:09 PM
#144:


NatsuSama posted...
And my question still stands. If a woman had a bad rep in her past would you be here trying to argue how men should be considering any behavior (not part of her career and just pure gratification andor clout) in her closet she's moved passed saying that woman needs to stop and reflect on her past if she ever gets into a relationship making requests in her newfound relationship?

Are you asking me if I think women can be toxic as well in this area? Absolutely.

You keep trying to give him credit for "owning it", however I don't see anything like him saying "even though I was one of these guys who was only attracted to you because you were surfing in your swimsuit, I've moved on past that"

I don't see any real negotiation or a warning about discomfort, just literal "you choose me or your career", so he's asking her to give up her dreams for his insecurities.

What if she asked him to never take a movie where he'd take his shirt off, kiss another, or have a sex scene, and if he did he'd need to quit acting or choose her? There are spouses who let their partners do sex scenes in acting, Hill's career & industry, and this dude is crying because she's wearing a one piece swimsuit to surf that isn't some Japanese middle/high school cover up everything you can ordeal.

NatsuSama posted...
Because the rationale seems to be from certain types that a man is misogynistic when he ever does it, but it's somehow different when a woman does it.

Women can absolutely be misandryists.

NatsuSama posted...
Him being some horny guy in the past has absolutely nothing to do with their relationship in what was then the present.

Once again, it does when he's asking her to give up her career over him and her career is the only reason he took any interest at all. It's literally the reason he was even with her.

Crow0000 posted...
Yes. He's also one of the best internet debaters, and on top of that, has been in a several year long relationship with his partner, melina. Which means he has more authority and knowledge than 99% of people here who have never kept a relationship

Lol ok then. You thinking that qualifies as authority tells me everything I need to know about you.

But hey, props for editing your post to be less unhinged before I could see it, unfortunately someone else had already quoted you. It happens.

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GuerrillaSoldier
07/08/23 6:53:46 PM
#145:


why isn't the topic title

"jonah hill's ex surfer gf randomly slanders and blasts jonah hill 2 years after their relationship ended because he didn't like her having sexy pictures on her profiles"

i haven't really seen any excuse or reason why she would start to trash his name 2 years after the fact? is that allowed and not "abusive" because they're not in a relationship anymore? lol

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Smashingpmkns
07/08/23 7:04:09 PM
#146:


Carljank posted...
Exactly. Don't surf with other men. Can you imagine if she said he can't do acting scenes with women? She'd be called a crazy person.
Honestly this is actually a really good point lol the kissing scene in that You People movie he was in was CGI. I wonder wtf was going on there.

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boomgetchopped3
07/08/23 7:06:46 PM
#147:


Ha! This guy is so insecure! Not me tho! No sir! Im completely secure! So fucking secure!
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Smashingpmkns
07/08/23 7:12:24 PM
#148:


boomgetchopped3 posted...
Ha! This guy is so insecure! Not me tho! No sir! Im completely secure! So fucking secure!
Using your insecurity to control and manipulate your significant other is a bad thing imo.

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boomgetchopped3
07/08/23 7:14:25 PM
#149:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Using your insecurity to control and manipulate your significant other is a bad thing imo.

Agreed. So is lack of self-awareness imo.
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TheLiarParadox
07/08/23 7:18:07 PM
#150:


How many times has he played this character in a movie? Seth in Superbad was an insecure, manipulative dickwad. Same as in that movie with John C Reilly where he's a NEET. The aforementioned "caricature" in This is the End, as well.

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IronWolf87
07/08/23 7:23:13 PM
#151:


I agree that Jonah is being an ass here, but as others have pointed out they broke up years ago and she decides to dump their private convos out into the open now when they both have moved on?

It's entirely possible that Jonah has grown since then and is better partner and person than he was 2 years ago.
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NatsuSama
07/08/23 7:27:35 PM
#152:


Kradek posted...
You keep trying to give him credit for "owning it", however I don't see anything like him saying "even though I was one of these guys who was only attracted to you because you were surfing in your swimsuit, I've moved on past that"
No. I'm saying whatever (nothing extreme ofc) a man or woman does in their past before they are even a couple is irrelevant to the when they are a couple. So this goto argument of, "Oh he or she needs to stop and reflect" is irrelevant to their relationship. Digging up your wife or husband's shortcomings before you two even met isn't going to make your point remotely good if that person isn't doing the thing you are bringing up in the actual relationship.

For example, if a woman who was bad at business, and money meets a guy during her bad adventure with money. That bad past is left behind her and she doesnt show those same bad choices during the relationship, but requests her boyfriend to stop or she doesnt think this will work. Lets say his money has to do with gambling money, like a stock day trader or something. It wouldn't be relevant to throw it out there that she sucked with money before they met and became a couple. What does before they met have to do with the now which is their actual relationship. It's just bringing it up attempting to take pot shots and it's a poor one at that since it's not even a current flaw, but one prior to them becoming a couple...

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CasualGuy
07/08/23 7:31:18 PM
#153:


Skankhair posted...
Hes a cringey debate bro who is uninformed but talks very fast and repeats himself a lot. He appeals to uninformed people who cant think. Hes like a centrist Ben Shapiro.

People repeat this a lot and it's always people that know nothing about him except from like 30 second viral clips.

Outside of like delusional socialists, he's more progressive than most online figures.

And his take on this is pretty good. Celebrities probably have to deal with tons of women/men trying to get with them. Him laying everything out right away is just a great strategy to avoid wasting time on people that won't be compatible.

His particular boundaries are up for debate though. Most of them seem super normal outside of the no swim suits or male surfer ones. Those are crazy

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Shadow_Don
07/08/23 7:32:14 PM
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Crow0000 posted...
1.Destiny has more authority than you, and most other people on this subject. He amassed his following with blood, sweat, and tears. And has an actual relationship with someone he loves. You know what that means?

Holy fuck if you focused this cringe into a laser beam it would destroy planets

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