Board 8 > Tekken Mafia Topic 5 - Oh, baby you bring out the devil inside me

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wallmasterz posted...

Sorry if I shouldnt have mentioned that, not sure what youre getting at here

I don't believe you've spent any considerable amount of time on this game that would make you meet a deadline with the amount of content you've posted and apparent reading you've done. It is the first thing you've done since very early that's pinged me as strange.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

What is this theory?

Red is scum's version of a godfather but instead of actually scanning innocent he steals the result

Now that we are seeing more and more of the setup and not a lot of power I'm leaning towards that as making more sense than scum having a rolethief.

Isquen really popped up to vote me immediately after I voted plum then disappeared again huh

Plum you were the vote leader when I voted you. Isquen immediately voted for me after I voted for you. Why do you think Isquen never considered you being a scum role and why isnt Corrik on your radar considering he all but claimed doctor without claiming doctor?

wallmasterz posted...

Plum you were the vote leader when I voted you. Isquen immediately voted for me after I voted for you. Why do you think Isquen never considered you being a scum role and why isnt Corrik on your radar considering he all but claimed doctor without claiming doctor?

Because scanning Lea is dumb when you should just shoot her anyways

Weird timing that things on plum were about to reach critical mass and then a huge burst of activity and now what?

And Corrik is on my radar, but Corrik is wild

This is why I wanted him to commit to being a doctor and not hinting at it, because he hints all sorts of BS to try to do things.

Weve kind of turned the corner where Corrik is starting to possibly be town

wallmasterz posted...

Weird timing that things on plum were about to reach critical mass and then a huge burst of activity and now what?

People are no longer on their lunch break

Oh Lopen is way off in the clouds.

Red just claim

Maybe experimental means, give scum enough power and town very little to the point where its basically a no power game.

(Though scum is probably largely hiding in the nillas anyway)

Do you have any thoughts on which of the Vanilla claims could be scum, Death?

Go here at 450

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80401072

My theory

Cop, POSSIBLY plum, and whatever Corrik is are literally the only power, scumteam looks super stacked but aren't really as their roles are not super applicable here which is why Ulti thought Jailkeeper would have made sense in the setup

Isquen as watcher now looks glaring because game is super low power. Basic idea of what Isquen was trying to achieve still makes sense, he was trying to draw off doc from me because scum knew I was doctor.

There might legitimately be scum watcher and the Lea element of what I was claiming didn't matter, as Heihachi is the scum way to catch the cop the watcher could be their way to catch the doctor. Scumteam is kinda playing the role of "town" here.

We in any case do not lynch Isquen knowing the weirdness of the setup, despite my misgivings. He should definitely be first on the chopping block if he fails repeatedly to give any useful information though.

I still think you look scummish but I would rather lynch red than you today.

Keep in mind it's not just my scan theory. I did want to townclear him for a reason, I had some doubts in my town read.

Watch how red played yesterday. He looked active early, then regressed to going to Disneyland again (or playing in traffic or whatever he said it was) that's why I actually scanned him.
Watch how red played today. Basically no meaningful analysis of what's going on (and a LOT is going on) just "guffaw, why are we doing this, guffaw" ad nauseam.

I also just don't believe he (or Plum) would actually think Ulti looked like town yesterday.

How you catch scum red is

Makes excuses for inactivity
Makes a bunch of "look how smart I am" posts while not attempting to find any scum

And when you sing your lucid votals:
[4] Wallz - Isquen, Plum, Lea, Abacus
[2] Red - Corrik, Lopen
[1] Plum - Mzero, (Abacus), (Peaf), (IGCD), (Lopen), (Wallz), (Lopen)
[1] Kirby - (Isquen), (Lea), (Peaf), (Corrik), (Peaf), IGCD
[0] Corrik - (Kirby), (Isquen), (Plum), (Isquen)
[0] Isquen - (Corrik), (Lopen), (Corrik)
[0] Lopen - (Plum)
[0] Lea - (Lopen), (IGCD), (Isquen)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends at 7pm EST, 4 hours from now.

Kirby321 posted...

Do you have any thoughts on which of the Vanilla claims could be scum, Death?

Honestly the only one I really like is Lea so it doesnt narrow it down much for me just through that.

Short lunch break.

I'm extra skeptical of the Lee claim. I forget if I had brought it up earlier when I was waking up, but I was looking up Lee Chaolan earlier today as a "what if Lea was doing that instead."

Lee was a villain in earlier Tekkens, and DEFINITELY part of the Mishima group, even if he's trying to subvert it from within. The only thing giving me pause is that Lars was too, but then I swing again because Lee goes by Violet now.

It makes a perfect Miller claim, which makes vanilla sort of bizarre.

In a vacuum I would say

If Isquen is town, you (Lea) are likely town and Plum is some sort of random scum power role that didn't do anything useful
If Isquen is scum, you could be either one but I would lean scum based on other stuff

Keep in mind if Plum is town that's pretty much null on you. Plum saving scum Lea is totally possible.

ctesjbuvf posted...

And when you sing your lucid votals:
[4] Wallz - Isquen, Plum, Lea, Abacus
[2] Red - Corrik, Lopen
[1] Plum - Mzero, (Abacus), (Peaf), (IGCD), (Lopen), (Wallz), (Lopen)
[1] Kirby - (Isquen), (Lea), (Peaf), (Corrik), (Peaf), IGCD
[0] Corrik - (Kirby), (Isquen), (Plum), (Isquen)
[0] Isquen - (Corrik), (Lopen), (Corrik)
[0] Lopen - (Plum)
[0] Lea - (Lopen), (IGCD), (Isquen)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day ends at 7pm EST, 4 hours from now.

Lol. Look what happened when I voted plum and plum was too close to being lynched. This feels exactly like when I got mislynched in Star Trek.

If Im the lynch, so be it, but I think town got played so far today. I think at least one of plum and Isquen is scum. Corrik is either smart scum or very anti town town. But if hes ok with me being lynched with a known liar on the table, thats hard to persuade.

Wallz vote Red with us

Having a billion vanilla claims and then going "I'm going to conspiracy" is very Lopen.

Not productive in the slightest.

I dont want to vote red just out of self preservation. I want red to post more.

What's the matter red? Don't want to be another vanilla claim in the pile?

The funny thing is a billion vanilla claims is in and of itself a conspiracy

I don't even need to theorize-- setup is clearly weird the evidence is right in front of you

Lopen posted...

The funny thing is a billion vanilla claims is in and of itself a conspiracy

That isn't how conspiracies work. That we have x number of vanilla claims is a fact of the game.
Lopen posted...

Also your post quoted twice and mobile refused to delete the second one. Keyboard would just disappear.

So where is the conspiracy theorizing here?

That I think you're scum because you went to Disneyland yesterday?

Leafeon13N posted...

Also your post quoted twice and mobile refused to delete the second one. Keyboard would just disappear.

I've been having the same issue lately. Super frustrating

Corrik7 posted...

If everything left is vanilla, yes.

I thought for sure we have a Bulletproof and commuter or roleblocker or something.

You thought there would be a town rb and a scum rb??

I guess it's the time I put my final vote down for the day. Hmmm. Gimme a minute.

Peace___Frog posted...

You thought there would be a town rb and a scum rb??

Sure why not

Curious that Lopen never considered I stole his scan and Plum is doctor. That's blind faith.

##unvote:
##vote: Death

have a good day.

I think Plum has played extremely scummy, has bad flavor, and you have played how I would expect you play Doctor and have good flavor

It's faith but it's hardly blind

I love you too Corrik

I am not moving to Death

Let's lynch Red.

Of the claimed vanillas, my lynch preference is kirby > wallz > abacus > death > igcd > lea > me.

That's all of them, right?

Im baffled by Corrik and plum refusing to vote each other. Does anyone think theyre somehow both telling the truth? I am trying to wrap my head around this. I havent stuck my vote back on plum

I do not think Plum is telling the truth but am also not seeing what Corrik is seeing about the situation in general.

Lopen posted...

I am not moving to Death

Let's lynch Red.

Feels like a wasted vote in the making. Although to be fair red totally cooled from his early game new red approach and feels a lot more like afk Jr. Troopa mode

(red) > Lea > Peaf > Kirby > IGCD > wallz > abacus > Death

IMO

Peace___Frog posted...

I do not think Plum is telling the truth but am also not seeing what Corrik is seeing about the situation in general.

Interesting

So you think there isn't a doctor in this setup

wallmasterz posted...

Im baffled by Corrik and plum refusing to vote each other. Does anyone think theyre somehow both telling the truth? I am trying to wrap my head around this. I havent stuck my vote back on plum

Corrik hasn't actually officially claimed shit to my knowledge. Made vague insinuations about being doctor like but nothing that couldn't be taken back.

If it were anyone besides Corrik I could definitely say that they were stalling to live as long as possible

But since its Corrik I am only half sure that this is the case

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80401072