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SrRd_RacinG
03/25/23 4:17:47 PM
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Did Jak & Daxter lose their way; forget what made them great?

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BurmesePenguin
03/25/23 4:20:10 PM
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Because Ratchet and Clank was always bette rthan Jak and Daxter

R&C is pretty shit now, but their legacy has kept it on life support longer.
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DarthAragorn
03/25/23 4:21:16 PM
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Because naughty dog is too serious and artistic for childish games.

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TheGoldenEel
03/25/23 4:22:12 PM
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because Naughty Dog forgot where they came from

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Noumas
03/25/23 4:22:47 PM
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Jak and daxter is awful. I finally tried the game and I didn't like it one bit. They did great with crash and then its like wtf?
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AceMos
03/25/23 4:22:48 PM
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because they ruined the franchise starting wtih jak2

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ViewtifulJoe
03/25/23 4:28:18 PM
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Jak 2 and 3 are the fun ones.
Can't do the yellow gun jump spin shoot thing in the first game.

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ZevLoveDOOM
03/25/23 4:32:10 PM
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no hate towards Jak and Daxter but Ratchet and Clank has been more fun as a series.
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AceMos
03/25/23 4:32:29 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Jak 2 and 3 are the fun ones.
Can't do the yellow gun jump spin shoot thing in the first game.
who cares they ditched the things that made the first game fun

and just copied GTA

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dameon_reaper
03/25/23 4:37:36 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Because Ratchet and Clank was always bette rthan Jak and Daxter

R&C is pretty shit now, but their legacy has kept it on life support longer.

Shit now? The PS4 game and the PS5 one are really fun. I don't know how they're shit now.
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ViewtifulJoe
03/25/23 4:39:01 PM
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AceMos posted...
who cares they ditched the things that made the first game fun

and just copied GTA
GTA is boring slow realism though. Jak 2 it's like get on the jet bike and mash R2 to drive high and low at the same time.
And they got Dark Jak who has like two different screen nukes. And the jetboard with the skateboard tricks and the glitch where it can fly.
And he finally learned to talk.

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AceAttorneyist
03/25/23 4:41:17 PM
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Yeah I always loved the Jak series and never saw the appeal of Ratchet and Clank. Wish it was the other way around

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BurmesePenguin
03/25/23 4:42:27 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Shit now? The PS4 game and the PS5 one are really fun. I don't know how they're shit now.
Because you're wrong.
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BlueBoy675
03/25/23 4:44:26 PM
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Sly Cooper was always better than both

except Sly 4

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Ratchetrockon
03/25/23 4:55:17 PM
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Idk tbh. I like ratchet but I always thought the jak games were a bit more fun sometimes.

Like Jak 2 and 3 had the punch Jump spin shoot punch jump spin shoot thing. I Spammed that across the whole game. Amazing experience. In a way its like dmc 3 sword Master style with aerial rave e&i shot jump cancel aerial rave e&i shot jump cancel etc.. add in a few point blank shotgun blasts and some hammers or aerial crosses too for variety and also to glitch out the dted enemy knockback counter.

Get yellow reflector gun thing in jak 3 and you start laser party.

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Punished_Blinx
03/25/23 5:00:08 PM
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Tbh one of the factors is that Insomniac had to keep falling back on R&C because most of their other games were flopping. It wasn't until Spider-Man they really found another long term franchise.

Naughty Dog in comparison had Uncharted and The Last of Us. They weren't releasing games like Fuse.

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ViewtifulJoe
03/25/23 5:01:13 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
Get yellow reflector gun thing in jak 3 and you start laser party.
Maxed out blue gun in jak 3 is the real laser party

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Ratchetrockon
03/25/23 5:01:54 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Maxed out blue gun in jak 3 is the real laser party

Damn I forgot about that. I have to replay jak 3 now

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SrRd_RacinG
03/25/23 11:19:27 PM
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Rip Jak and Daxter

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Billyionaire
03/25/23 11:23:25 PM
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AceMos posted...
who cares they ditched the things that made the first game fun

and just copied GTA
The first game just copied 3D platformers like 4 years too late tho

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WBC_Injury
03/25/23 11:25:15 PM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Did Jak & Daxter lose their way; forget what made them great?

Because Naughty Dog would rather keep making hallway simulators.
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Tora_Sami
03/25/23 11:26:03 PM
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They should make the next ratchet and clank game, go into the jak and daxter universe.

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pegusus123456
03/25/23 11:26:42 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Shit now? The PS4 game and the PS5 one are really fun. I don't know how they're shit now.
They're fine, but way back in Up Your Arsenal, they bought into their own hype about the series being about wacky weapons. So then they decided the series was a third person shooter instead of an action platformer. So the levels have been a lot less entertaining with more focus on the gunplay, but the gunplay isn't that engaging either. They also clearly ran out of weapon ideas about three or four games back.

This went along with the storylines being infantilized a lot. Like just look at the original story of the first game and then the remake, there's no bite to it. I'm like halfway through Rift Apart and it's literally a story about friendship. They're aiming the story at children, but I think the game is actually a little too difficult for the story's target audience.

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dave_is_slick
03/26/23 12:07:31 AM
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AceMos posted...
because they ruined the franchise starting wtih jak2
Vastly improved, you mean.

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Ratchetrockon
03/26/23 12:11:09 AM
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Can't wait for opengoal jak 2 and 3 to complete

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ViewtifulJoe
03/26/23 12:25:52 AM
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I wish more ground pounds in games hit the same way Dark Bomb did.

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Delirious_Beard
03/26/23 1:18:43 AM
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naughty dog just didn't know what to do with the series, and they're not interested in making fun games anymore

TheGoldenEel posted...
because Naughty Dog forgot where they came from

also legitimately this. it was so sad seeing them act embarrassed over the Jak X racing spinoff in The Last of Us, it's a surprisingly fun game. this and the crash cameo in uncharted just make me long for a day when Naughty Dog just made fun wacky games instead of wannabe movies that so desperately want to be taken seriously


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pegusus123456
03/26/23 1:20:09 AM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
it was so sad seeing them act embarrassed over the Jak X racing spinoff in The Last of Us
Where was this?

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Pastryarchy
03/26/23 1:28:39 AM
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Why is Jak and Daxter dead but Ratchet and Clank still kicking?

Furries.

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DarthAragorn
03/26/23 1:33:03 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Where was this?
Left Behind DLC, arcade

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MJOLNRVII
03/26/23 1:36:29 AM
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AceMos posted...
because they ruined the franchise starting wtih jak2

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Leanaunfurled
03/26/23 1:45:17 AM
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god, I love the Jak trilogy. ND claims they could never figure out a good story for one and so didn't go back to it, but I'm sure a part of it is also because they don't think it'll be as profitable as stuff like Uncharted and TLOU.

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Butterfiles
03/26/23 3:16:51 AM
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Tora_Sami posted...
They should make the next ratchet and clank game, go into the jak and daxter universe.
Rack and Dankster

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Ser_Jaker
03/26/23 4:29:59 AM
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Naughty Dog would rather keep reharshing the Last of Us.

They even had a Jak 4 planned at some point about 10 years ago but shelved it to make more "serious" games.

They really should get the boys back together and make Jak 4.

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tripleh213
03/26/23 4:36:34 AM
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How good is the Ratchet and Clank series? Never played it yet.

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Trelve
03/26/23 4:56:44 AM
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Ratchet & Clank is pretty consistent. Jak has one masterpiece (Jak 1) and the rest are average. I honestly still think that Jak 1 is the greatest platformer ever made.
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Deteled
03/26/23 5:00:35 AM
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Remembering playing jak 2 and 3 oh man i feel so old now
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Verdekal
03/26/23 5:04:36 AM
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Jak 1 was a fun platform game. Jak 2 was shit and a GTA clone.

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iPhone_7
03/26/23 5:25:51 AM
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I thought the same company was behind both games. Ive never played either.

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Punished_Blinx
03/26/23 5:27:48 AM
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Naughty Dog aren't really the same developers they were 20 years ago. Platformers aren't their wheelhouse anymore. They're basically the gold standard for the cinematic action games these days. Which as cool as Crash and Jak were for the time didn't really come close to the acclaim they get these days.

It's not like they're the only developer around who stopped making platformers after the PS2 generation. Even FromSoft made The Adventures of Cookies and Cream.

I dunno sometimes I think it's okay for a developer to move on. Doubt there's huge demand for a new Jak game anyway.

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I_is_smart
03/26/23 5:37:06 AM
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Jak and Daxter 1 was an okay platformer (for a PS2 game anyway, LOT of terrible platformers in that era)

2 was awful with all the horrendously bad checkpoints and vehicles that explode after a single collision.

3 was tolerable, but the desert vehicles controlled like ass.

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AceMos
03/26/23 10:50:52 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Naughty Dog aren't really the same developers they were 20 years ago. Platformers aren't their wheelhouse anymore. They're basically the gold standard for the cinematic action games these days. Which as cool as Crash and Jak were for the time didn't really come close to the acclaim they get these days.

It's not like they're the only developer around who stopped making platformers after the PS2 generation. Even FromSoft made The Adventures of Cookies and Cream.

I dunno sometimes I think it's okay for a developer to move on. Doubt there's huge demand for a new Jak game anyway.
by cinematic adventure you mean hallway simulator

naughty dog is ashamed of making video games they want to make movies

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MedeaLysistrata
03/26/23 10:51:39 AM
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Yeah, I wonder

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ViewtifulJoe
03/26/23 1:38:49 PM
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Verdekal posted...
Jak 1 was a fun platform game. Jak 2 was shit and a GTA clone.
Remember in GTA when they went to the Vice City founder's tomb and they had to parkour up a bunch of bars and moving blocks and there were rooms with weird musical monolith things and they had to fight a bunch of big spider things and then something something precursor stone something.

I didn't think Vice City McGee was gonna make it considering how slow and immobile the average GTA character is but he really impressed me.

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Azardea
03/26/23 1:57:23 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Remember in GTA when they went to the Vice City founder's tomb and they had to parkour up a bunch of bars and moving blocks and there were rooms with weird musical monolith things and they had to fight a bunch of big spider things and then something something precursor stone something.

I didn't think Vice City McGee was gonna make it considering how slow and immobile the average GTA character is but he really impressed me.
lmao

Yeah, the GTA ripoff complaint never made much sense to me. Like yeah, the main hub was definitely inspired by it, but there's so, so much more to the game than that.

Anyway, huge fan of both franchises, so I'm really sad that the Jak games died. Can't even say they went out on a high note...
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