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Garabandal 03/09/23 5:01:30 PM #1:	https://newrepublic.com/post/171025/tennessee-house-bill-gutting-marriage-equality The Tennessee House of Representatives has passed a bill that would allow people to refuse to perform a marriage if they disagree with it. According to the bill, which passed Monday night, a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the persons conscience or religious beliefs. The bill, which now moves to the state Senate, is the latest in an onslaught of measures that the Tennessee legislature has passed attacking LGBTQ rights. This bill could also apply to couples where at least one partner is transgender, or to mixed race couples. --- He's a great God, a righteous King, Ruler over everything! He's a great God, we will proclaim honor and glory to His name! <cite>Garabandal posted [p:972065286] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>https://newrepublic.com/post/171025/tennessee-house-bill-gutting-marriage-equality<quote>The Tennessee House of Representatives has passed a bill that would allow people to refuse to perform a marriage if they disagree with it.According to the bill, which passed Monday night, a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the persons conscience or religious beliefs.The bill, which now moves to the state Senate, is the latest in an onslaught of measures that the Tennessee legislature has passed attacking LGBTQ rights. This bill could also apply to couples where at least one partner is transgender, or to mixed race couples.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin 03/09/23 5:10:47 PM #2:	they're doing this to get a case before the now conservative SCotUS, and then every other red state will follow. --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Cuphead DLC <cite>Giant_Aspirin posted [p:972065459] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>they're doing this to get a case before the now conservative SCotUS, and then every other red state will follow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 03/09/23 5:17:16 PM #3:	So glad to be out of that shithole state. What an embarrassment <cite>Axiom posted [p:972065593] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>So glad to be out of that shithole state. What an embarrassment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/09/23 5:21:32 PM #4:	as blatant a 1A violation as they come. you're. all. fired. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You know me, I'm a big fan of subtlety. But that's downright cryptic. <cite>Medussa posted [p:972065707] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>as blatant a 1A violation as they come.you're. all. fired.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 03/09/23 5:29:09 PM #5:	I really want to know why does it matter to these assholes. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:972065858] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>I really want to know why does it matter to these assholes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/23 5:30:29 PM #6:	County clerks don't get to make that decision. ..or, I guess they do now, in tennessee. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972065885] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>County clerks don't get to make that decision...or, I guess they do now, in tennessee.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/09/23 5:32:52 PM #7:	cjsdowg posted... I really want to know why does it matter to these assholes. Because their base runs mainly on bigotry and other forms of hate and they want votes <cite>TMOG posted [p:972065933] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>I really want to know why does it matter to these assholes.</quote>Because their base runs mainly on bigotry and other forms of hate and they want votes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 03/09/23 5:35:54 PM #8:	Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing? --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:972065988] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/09/23 5:39:37 PM #9:	gmanthebest posted... Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing? obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You know me, I'm a big fan of subtlety. But that's downright cryptic. <cite>Medussa posted [p:972066053] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>gmanthebest posted... </cite><quote>Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing?</quote>obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/23 5:40:21 PM #10:	gmanthebest posted... Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing? courthouse weddings. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972066067] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>gmanthebest posted... </cite><quote>Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing?</quote>courthouse weddings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 03/09/23 5:40:48 PM #11:	gmanthebest posted... Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing? Yeah this is what I'm curious about. I don't really care if a specific pastor doesn't want to marry whatever couple. You can get ordained and do that stuff. And I think current federal law already gives them exemptions But if court officials are able to refuse doing the marriage, I have a big issue with that --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:972066074] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>gmanthebest posted... </cite><quote>Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing?</quote>Yeah this is what I'm curious about. I don't really care if a specific pastor doesn't want to marry whatever couple. You can get ordained and do that stuff. And I think current federal law already gives them exemptionsBut if court officials are able to refuse doing the marriage, I have a big issue with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 03/09/23 5:42:23 PM #12:	emblem-man posted... Yeah this is what I'm curious about. I don't really care if a specific pastor doesn't want to marry whatever couple. You can get ordained and do that stuff. And I think current federal law already gives them exemptions But if court officials are able to refuse doing the marriage, I have a big issue with that I can't find the text of the full bill, but the description seems like it is just referencing the officiant/priest/pastor performing the wedding ceremony. --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:972066112] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>emblem-man posted... </cite><quote>Yeah this is what I'm curious about. I don't really care if a specific pastor doesn't want to marry whatever couple. You can get ordained and do that stuff. And I think current federal law already gives them exemptionsBut if court officials are able to refuse doing the marriage, I have a big issue with that</quote>I can't find the text of the full bill, but the description seems like it is just referencing the officiant/priest/pastor performing the wedding ceremony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gmanthebest 03/09/23 5:45:09 PM #13:	Medussa posted... obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves. Thanks, didn't know that Questionmarktarius posted... courthouse weddings. That's fucked. It's one thing for father Billy Bob Cousin Fucker to be able to refuse, but government people shouldn't be able to Edit: I guess the "argument" against that would be, "What if Billy Bob Cousin Fucker is a government person?" In that case, he should find a new job. --- The large print giveth And the small print taketh away <cite>gmanthebest posted [p:972066183] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves.</quote>Thanks, didn't know thatQuestionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>courthouse weddings.</quote>That's fucked. It's one thing for father Billy Bob Cousin Fucker to be able to refuse, but government people shouldn't be able toEdit: I guess the "argument" against that would be, "What if Billy Bob Cousin Fucker is a government person?" In that case, he should find a new job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 03/09/23 5:50:06 PM #14:	To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs. I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword. --- Nirvana <cite>Savoots posted [p:972066311] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs.I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitbuller_26 03/09/23 5:51:57 PM #15:	Meanwhile the lieutenant governor liking and commenting on a gay twink's thirst traps on Instagram while on his official account. I wish there was mass outrage from Tennessee residents about this shit. But Republicans outnumber the sane people there by a significant margin. <cite>Pitbuller_26 posted [p:972066353] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile the lieutenant governor liking and commenting on a gay twink's thirst traps on Instagram while on his official account. I wish there was mass outrage from Tennessee residents about this shit. But Republicans outnumber the sane people there by a significant margin.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/09/23 5:52:29 PM #16:	Savoots posted... if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs. they're free to not take a job that has such requirements, then. and you know perfectly well those same people will be screaming bloody murder the second a muslim refuses to serve them a pulled pork sandwich. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You know me, I'm a big fan of subtlety. But that's downright cryptic. <cite>Medussa posted [p:972066367] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs.</quote>they're free to not take a job that has such requirements, then. and you know perfectly well those same people will be screaming bloody murder the second a muslim refuses to serve them a pulled pork sandwich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/09/23 5:53:00 PM #17:	Oh look. Tennessee's government continues to be invalid --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972066383] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Oh look. Tennessee's government continues to be invalid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/09/23 5:55:38 PM #18:	Savoots posted... To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs. I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword. Have beliefs on your own time. Some freedoms have to be compromised all the time for everyone to have freedom, but this religious right political fucks think LGBTQ existing without discrimination against them is an attack on freedom. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972066449] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs.I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword.</quote>Have beliefs on your own time. Some freedoms have to be compromised all the time for everyone to have freedom, but this religious right political fucks think LGBTQ existing without discrimination against them is an attack on freedom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 03/09/23 5:56:31 PM #19:	Savoots posted... To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs. I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword. The standard would be if there is a reasonably accommodation for both parties (the worker and the ones wandering to get married). If everyone in the court house isn't willing to officiate, that's an issue. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:972066477] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs.I'm not religious, but to force them would be against their own freedoms, so it's a double edged sword.</quote>The standard would be if there is a reasonably accommodation for both parties (the worker and the ones wandering to get married). If everyone in the court house isn't willing to officiate, that's an issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 03/09/23 5:58:40 PM #20:	hockeybub89 posted... Have beliefs on your own time. Some freedoms have to be compromised all the time for everyone to have freedom, but this religious right political fucks think LGBTQ existing without discrimination against them is an attack on freedom. So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. --- Nirvana <cite>Savoots posted [p:972066539] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Have beliefs on your own time. Some freedoms have to be compromised all the time for everyone to have freedom, but this religious right political fucks think LGBTQ existing without discrimination against them is an attack on freedom.</quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 03/09/23 6:00:58 PM #21:	Savoots posted... To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs. You dont get to prioritize your personal religious beliefs over performing your duties as a government official. When acting as a government official you are literally "the government" and can't discriminate against citizens on the basis of your personal religion. --- Only two things can end a Republican's career - a dead girl or a live boy. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:972066579] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>To be fair, if something goes against someone's religious beliefs they shouldn't have to act against their own beliefs.</quote>You dont get to prioritize your personal religious beliefs over performing your duties as a government official. When acting as a government official you are literally "the government" and can't discriminate against citizens on the basis of your personal religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/09/23 6:02:20 PM #22:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Are you really not able to see the difference between not wanting to decorate a cake with a symbol of racism and not wanting to legally wed people just because they both have the same genitals? Especially when so many of our legal and government systems provide benefits to married couples that gay people (or anybody else that somebody "believes shouldn't be married") would be denied access to, such as tax breaks and hospital visitation rights? Oh, wait, you're Savoots. Of course you can't see the difference. <cite>TMOG posted [p:972066608] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Are you really not able to see the difference between not wanting to decorate a cake with a symbol of racism and not wanting to legally wed people just because they both have the same genitals?Especially when so many of our legal and government systems provide benefits to married couples that gay people (or anybody else that somebody "believes shouldn't be married") would be denied access to, such as tax breaks and hospital visitation rights?Oh, wait, you're Savoots.Of course you can't see the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pistachio12 03/09/23 6:02:28 PM #23:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Here you are equating gay marriage to the Confederacy. This is not a slippery slope, you've gone off the cliff entirely. <cite>pistachio12 posted [p:972066613] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Here you are equating gay marriage to the Confederacy. This is not a slippery slope, you've gone off the cliff entirely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 03/09/23 6:02:34 PM #24:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Are racists a protected group? --- walk like thunder <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:972066617] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Are racists a protected group?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Savoots 03/09/23 6:04:36 PM #26:	Does this apply to religious institutions or state officials. If it's churches, then I don't think they should be forced, but if it's the state then yeah they have an obligation. That's where I stand here. --- Nirvana <cite>Savoots posted [p:972066663] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Does this apply to religious institutions or state officials.If it's churches, then I don't think they should be forced, but if it's the state then yeah they have an obligation.That's where I stand here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 03/09/23 6:05:14 PM #27:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Baking a cake isn't the same as performing an essential government function. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:972066674] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Baking a cake isn't the same as performing an essential government function.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/09/23 6:05:44 PM #28:	Savoots posted... Does this apply to religious institutions or state officials. Medussa posted... obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You know me, I'm a big fan of subtlety. But that's downright cryptic. <cite>Medussa posted [p:972066692] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>Does this apply to religious institutions or state officials.</quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>obergefell and loving already include an exemption for churches themselves.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/23 6:06:08 PM #29:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? That's private businesses. This is the rough analogue of the DMV refusing to renew your tags because you're wearing a Black Sabbath shirt. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972066709] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?</quote>That's private businesses.This is the rough analogue of the DMV refusing to renew your tags because you're wearing a Black Sabbath shirt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 03/09/23 6:06:21 PM #30:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. it isn't a slippery slope at all and we have laws that specifically spell out the exceptions to the right to refuse service. if someone in your business is wearing a steelers hat you can refuse service because you hate the steelers. if someone in your business is gay or a christian or a certain race you cannot refuse service because you hate those things as those protections are enshrined in the law. --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:972066715] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>it isn't a slippery slope at all and we have laws that specifically spell out the exceptions to the right to refuse service. if someone in your business is wearing a steelers hat you can refuse service because you hate the steelers. if someone in your business is gay or a christian or a certain race you cannot refuse service because you hate those things as those protections are enshrined in the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOtherMike 03/09/23 6:06:50 PM #31:	Savoots posted... If it's churches, then I don't think they should be forced, They literally never were, nor were they in any danger of being forced to officiate any wedding they chose to refuse regardless of what genitals the couple have. Savoots posted... but if it's the state then yeah they have an obligation. This is what it is. It's for the Kim Davises of Tennessee. --- Only two things can end a Republican's career - a dead girl or a live boy. <cite>TheOtherMike posted [p:972066729] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>If it's churches, then I don't think they should be forced,</quote>They literally never were, nor were they in any danger of being forced to officiate any wedding they chose to refuse regardless of what genitals the couple have.Savoots posted... </cite><quote>but if it's the state then yeah they have an obligation.</quote>This is what it is. It's for the Kim Davises of Tennessee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/09/23 6:07:36 PM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... This is the rough analogue of the DMV refusing to renew your tags because you're wearing a Black Sabbath shirt. The more accurate comparison would be the DMV refusing to renew somebody's tags because the person behind the desk is a racist who believes Asians can't drive. <cite>TMOG posted [p:972066743] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>This is the rough analogue of the DMV refusing to renew your tags because you're wearing a Black Sabbath shirt.</quote>The more accurate comparison would be the DMV refusing to renew somebody's tags because the person behind the desk is a racist who believes Asians can't drive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/23 6:08:05 PM #33:	TMOG posted... The more accurate comparison would be the DMV refusing to renew somebody's tags because the person behind the desk is a racist who believes Asians can't drive. ah. I like yours better. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972066760] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>TMOG posted... </cite><quote>The more accurate comparison would be the DMV refusing to renew somebody's tags because the person behind the desk is a racist who believes Asians can't drive.</quote>ah.I like yours better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 03/09/23 6:08:41 PM #34:	gmanthebest posted... Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing? Tennessee law already says that religious leaders do not have to officiate weddings they object to. Critics say the new bill goes beyond that and would empower county clerks to refuse to certify marriage licenses, meaning that LGBTQ, interfaith, or interracial couples could be unable to get married at all, rather than just needing to find a new officiant for their ceremony. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:972066771] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>gmanthebest posted... </cite><quote>Is this just if they wanna get married in a church or something? Or would it also include getting married at the county court by a judge type of thing?</quote><quote>Tennessee law already says that religious leaders do not have to officiate weddings they object to. Critics say the new bill goes beyond that and would empower county clerks to refuse to certify marriage licenses, meaning that LGBTQ, interfaith, or interracial couples could be unable to get married at all, rather than just needing to find a new officiant for their ceremony.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Relient_K 03/09/23 6:09:36 PM #35:	As a religious person, if my job wants me to do something that I cannot do for religious reasons, it's time for me to find a new job, not time for the world to bend backwards to my beliefs. --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. [ER] <cite>Relient_K posted [p:972066798] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>As a religious person, if my job wants me to do something that I cannot do for religious reasons, it's time for me to find a new job, not time for the world to bend backwards to my beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/09/23 6:11:41 PM #36:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Yeah, sure why not? Though a key difference there is that LGBTQ aren't making a choice and I don't give a rat's whether some people have an opinion that those facts aren't true. But if I make custom cakes, then why can't I make all custom cakes? And if you want to talk slippery slopes, let's go other way. If we can refuse to do our jobs because we disagree with gay people, then does that mean I should be able to follow my conscience and refuse to serve someone with a MAGA hat, or someone who appears to be a conservative Christian? Do white racists have a right to refuse service to black people? I don't think an Italian restaurant should be forced to serve tacos or Impossible meatballs, but I do think they should be forced to let every paying customer buy their lasagna --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972066847] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Yeah, sure why not? Though a key difference there is that LGBTQ aren't making a choice and I don't give a rat's whether some people have an opinion that those facts aren't true.But if I make custom cakes, then why can't I make all custom cakes? And if you want to talk slippery slopes, let's go other way. If we can refuse to do our jobs because we disagree with gay people, then does that mean I should be able to follow my conscience and refuse to serve someone with a MAGA hat, or someone who appears to be a conservative Christian? Do white racists have a right to refuse service to black people?I don't think an Italian restaurant should be forced to serve tacos or Impossible meatballs, but I do think they should be forced to let every paying customer buy their lasagna </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Savoots 03/09/23 6:15:37 PM #37:	hockeybub89 posted... But if I make custom cakes, then why can't I make all custom cakes? And if you want to talk slippery slopes, let's go other way. If we can refuse to do our jobs because we disagree with gay people, then does that mean I should be able to follow my conscience and refuse to serve someone with a MAGA hat, or someone who appears to be a conservative Christian? Yes, if that's what you want to do. You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic. --- Nirvana <cite>Savoots posted [p:972066939] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>But if I make custom cakes, then why can't I make all custom cakes? And if you want to talk slippery slopes, let's go other way. If we can refuse to do our jobs because we disagree with gay people, then does that mean I should be able to follow my conscience and refuse to serve someone with a MAGA hat, or someone who appears to be a conservative Christian?</quote>Yes, if that's what you want to do.You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/09/23 6:18:04 PM #38:	brb, going to go get a job and refuse to do anything because work violates my strictly held religious beliefs. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You know me, I'm a big fan of subtlety. But that's downright cryptic. <cite>Medussa posted [p:972066997] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>brb, going to go get a job and refuse to do anything because work violates my strictly held religious beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/09/23 6:18:58 PM #39:	Medussa posted... brb, going to go get a job and refuse to do anything because work violates my strictly held religious beliefs. I'm pretty sure that was a Beavis and Butt-Head epside. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:972067027] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite><quote>brb, going to go get a job and refuse to do anything because work violates my strictly held religious beliefs.</quote>I'm pretty sure that was a Beavis and Butt-Head epside.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 03/09/23 6:20:08 PM #40:	https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-capitol-to-keep-forrest-bust_n_5ee23012c5b6625b095bb628 This state --- "I'm tired of this city, all this toil and strife. Trying to cross the boulevard, playing Frogger with my life." <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:972067057] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tennessee-capitol-to-keep-forrest-bust_n_5ee23012c5b6625b095bb628This state</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 03/09/23 6:21:18 PM #41:	WW3 is around the corner, but oh shit is that two fellers kissing? Can't have that! This clown ass counrty man... --- This isn't an ambulance! It's a god damn HAMbulance! <cite>Thud posted [p:972067087] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>WW3 is around the corner, but oh shit is that two fellers kissing? Can't have that!This clown ass counrty man...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 03/09/23 6:21:23 PM #42:	Savoots posted... Yes, if that's what you want to do. You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic. Except it's not just Joe Schmo acting in the name of their religious beliefs, it's government officials enforcing their own private religious beliefs on everyone else. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:972067089] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>Yes, if that's what you want to do.You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic.</quote>Except it's not just Joe Schmo acting in the name of their religious beliefs, it's government officials enforcing their own private religious beliefs on everyone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gritty 03/09/23 6:27:05 PM #43:	Why dont these shitty states just secede already? they clearly dont want to be American. <cite>Gritty posted [p:972067214] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Why dont these shitty states just secede already? they clearly dont want to be American. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 03/09/23 6:30:22 PM #44:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Private business is not the same as government officials. While even as a private business you can't discriminate based on race, religion or sexuality you are still absolutely allowed to discriminate based on content. If I wanted a penis cake for my gay wedding they would be well within their right to say no because I asked for a penis but they shouldn't be and are not allowed to say no because it is for a gay wedding. (Not sure how accurate that statement is based on Tennessee.) --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:972067296] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Private business is not the same as government officials. While even as a private business you can't discriminate based on race, religion or sexuality you are still absolutely allowed to discriminate based on content. If I wanted a penis cake for my gay wedding they would be well within their right to say no because I asked for a penis but they shouldn't be and are not allowed to say no because it is for a gay wedding. (Not sure how accurate that statement is based on Tennessee.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/09/23 6:32:14 PM #45:	Savoots posted... Yes, if that's what you want to do. You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic. Then don't take a job as a government official when you know that existing law conflicts directly with your own religion-based bigotry. <cite>TMOG posted [p:972067335] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>Yes, if that's what you want to do.You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic.</quote>Then don't take a job as a government official when you know that existing law conflicts directly with your own religion-based bigotry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
candyapplered 03/09/23 6:38:30 PM #46:	I keep reading the topic title as "Tree House passes bill gutting marriage equality". --- Stay swell and swole my friends of freedom! <cite>candyapplered posted [p:972067444] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>I keep reading the topic title as "Tree House passes bill gutting marriage equality".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garmonbozia 03/09/23 6:54:48 PM #47:	Savoots posted... So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them? Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs. Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope. Ah yes, who can forget all those government run bakeries and patisseries --- The bowels are not what they seem <cite>Garmonbozia posted [p:972067779] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted...</cite><quote>So if you owned a bakery and someone wanted a Confederate flag on their cake, you should be forced to make it for them?Have beliefs on your own time, because you would be forced to make it and act against your own beliefs.Again, I'm not saying I agree with this, but it's a really slippery slope.</quote>Ah yes, who can forget all those government run bakeries and patisseries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/09/23 7:18:10 PM #48:	Garmonbozia posted... Ah yes, who can forget all those government run bakeries and patisseries HEY! My tax dollars paid for that Krispy Kreme! <cite>TMOG posted [p:972068288] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Garmonbozia posted... </cite><quote>Ah yes, who can forget all those government run bakeries and patisseries</quote>HEY! My tax dollars paid for that Krispy Kreme!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 03/09/23 7:27:03 PM #49:	So, I guess lbgt people shouldn't have to pay taxes since the government refuses to do their job when it comes to them --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:972068487] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>So, I guess lbgt people shouldn't have to pay taxes since the government refuses to do their job when it comes to them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/09/23 7:55:44 PM #50:	Savoots posted... Yes, if that's what you want to do. You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic. Nope. Everyone should be forced to serve everyone and fuck their fucking feelings. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:972069084] in Tennessee ... [t:80373981]...</cite> <quote>Savoots posted... </cite><quote>Yes, if that's what you want to do.You shouldn't have to be forced to do things that go against your beliefs, I literally said this in the topic.</quote>Nope. Everyone should be forced to serve everyone and fuck their fucking feelings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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