Current Events > Japan sees all time lowest birth numbers of just 800K in 2022

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SocialistGamer
03/08/23 10:55:34 AM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-05/japan-will-disappear-without-action-on-births-pm-s-aide-says

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Dragon56
03/08/23 10:58:06 AM
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I think they need to be more accepting of foreigners. Japanese girls really like white guys and it would help their birth rates 100%
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Supersex420
03/08/23 11:00:23 AM
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Shin Sekai Yori makes a bit more sense in terms of how they portrayed how many people there were

Idk, kind of stupid to take an anime seriously maybe

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meestermj
03/08/23 11:02:08 AM
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Just send Nick Cannon to Japan

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apolloooo
03/08/23 11:10:42 AM
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Not even spy x family can save japan's birthrate

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AngelsNAirwav3s
03/08/23 11:18:46 AM
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This, low birth rate is a global phenomenon, Japan is just the first country it hit. Population decline is going to be devastating

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WalkingLobsters
03/08/23 11:19:53 AM
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JAV is going to be a dead industry in the next decade

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MedeaLysistrata
03/08/23 11:20:36 AM
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"Other possible negative impacts of a declining population are: A rise in the dependency ratio which would increase the economic pressure on the workforce. A loss of culture and the diminishment of trust among citizens. A crisis in end-of-life care for the elderly because there are insufficient caregivers for them." wiki on the subject

other countries are solving this with immigration, but since it has to be controlled, they can only let so many people in at once. Canada recently got through a huge backlog.

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DarkBuster22904
03/08/23 11:22:37 AM
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It's almost like crippling societal expectations, toxic work culture, and raising your kids to focus so hard on school to the complete expense of social and personal skills/development has some serious downsides.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
03/08/23 11:25:16 AM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
It's almost like crippling societal expectations, toxic work culture, and raising your kids to focus so hard on school to the complete expense of social and personal skills/development has some serious downsides.

The USA and every country in the EU are also well below replacement birth rates.

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Homeless_Waifu
03/08/23 11:25:38 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
JAV is going to be a dead industry in the next decade
Isn't most of it women getting partially nude, doing lewd things?

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MaxEffingBemis
03/08/23 11:29:14 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The USA and every country in the EU are also well below replacement birth rates.
Probably because we cant afford to have babies

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ApherosyLove
03/08/23 11:29:54 AM
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Supersex420 posted...
Shin Sekai Yori makes a bit more sense in terms of how they portrayed how many people there were

Idk, kind of stupid to take an anime seriously maybe
I mean there were other factors, but yes.

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Pikachuchupika
03/08/23 11:31:04 AM
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simple: give incentives for foreigners like CEmen to go there to impregnate as many women as possible

Birth numbers fixed. Tada.
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DarkBuster22904
03/08/23 11:41:33 AM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The USA and every country in the EU are also well below replacement birth rates.
Sure. But they're for different reasons.

The marked yearly increase in Hikikomoris, common Karoshi attitudes, studies showing that a huge chunk the younger demographic has essentially zero interest in romantic partnerships as they're 100% focused on their career. It's reflected in their media, from overworked absentee fathers, to the sheer act of saying you want to date someone being an absolute earth-shattering moment. There are a TON of problems with Japan's social culture that go into causing a problem like this, and many of them are very uniquely, well, japanese.

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the_pika
03/08/23 11:51:56 AM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
"Other possible negative impacts of a declining population are: A rise in the dependency ratio which would increase the economic pressure on the workforce. A loss of culture and the diminishment of trust among citizens. A crisis in end-of-life care for the elderly because there are insufficient caregivers for them." wiki on the subject

other countries are solving this with immigration, but since it has to be controlled, they can only let so many people in at once. Canada recently got through a huge backlog.

but Japan wants to immigration at all
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VeggetaX
03/08/23 11:52:56 AM
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God I wish this would happen in America.

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BurmesePenguin
03/08/23 11:55:02 AM
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Obviously the solution is to clamp down on the rights of gay people in Japan so it becomes a challenge for them to legally have children.
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deoxxys
03/08/23 12:04:06 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
It's almost like crippling societal expectations, toxic work culture, and raising your kids to focus so hard on school to the complete expense of social and personal skills/development has some serious downsides.
This and growing costs of living.

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Prismsblade
03/08/23 12:06:37 PM
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Dragon56 posted...
I think they need to be more accepting of foreigners.
I can only assume they have a fear of this jeopardizing their culture, morals, general way of life and even their unique identity in the long term.

As many foreigners likely have any interest in assimilating and embracing the above.

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cjsdowg
03/08/23 12:13:11 PM
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They need to stop making anime women so cute. Who needs a real women when you can marry a vocaloid. If only that tech came to America I could stop trying to lose weight.

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the_pika
03/08/23 12:27:14 PM
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the weird thing is Africa and India have a huge births boom right now (especially Africa) and conditions there have never been worse
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Prismsblade
03/08/23 12:35:43 PM
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the_pika posted...
the weird thing is Africa and India have a huge births boom right now (especially Africa) and conditions there have never been worse
Even in 1st world country's lower class people tend to have more children then those in the upper classes. So it's not and never have had anything to do finances.

Generally it seems to scale to the general rights, freedom and opportunities a country provides more then anything.

So the fewer they have, the more likely they are to have children.

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crayola555
03/08/23 12:37:13 PM
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the_pika posted...
the weird thing is Africa and India have a huge births boom right now (especially Africa) and conditions there have never been worse


It's always seemed like an unexplained rule, where rich and well off people have less children and poorer working class folks have lots of children

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Humble_Novice
03/08/23 12:46:10 PM
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Dragon56 posted...
I think they need to be more accepting of foreigners. Japanese girls really like white guys and it would help their birth rates 100%
They're not going to sleep with you.
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Lonestar2000
03/08/23 12:52:31 PM
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Good, the less people in the world the better.

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/23 1:02:47 PM
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crayola555 posted...
It's always seemed like an unexplained rule, where rich and well off people have less children and poorer working class folks have lots of children
The greatest form of population control there is, is a decent standard of living.
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DKBananaSlamma
03/08/23 1:03:52 PM
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I should knock up a woman in Japan to give my son the weeb life I couldn't have! He will grow up eating ramen at the local stand with his fellow countrymen, go to a prestigious Japanese high school after barely passing the entrance exams, do various slice of life shenanigans in said high school, wear a yukata and enjoy some festival summer fireworks after winning a gold fish at a fishing game stand, make a fun group project at his school's culture festival, get in the good graces of many many Japanese women but never close the gap to romance because he is basically an anime protagonist, get in street fights every 5 seconds like in the Yakuza series and do sick-ass heat moves on his foes, enjoy some piping hot takoyaki after binging a new anime, and enjoying a nice soak at the local onsen hot spring while trying to get a peek at the woman's side >____>

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Cuticrusader09
03/08/23 1:06:43 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
simple: give incentives for foreigners like CEmen to go there to impregnate as many women as possible

Birth numbers fixed. Tada.

Women dont want kids.

They also dont want hafus because they get treated like foreigners.
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Dragon56
03/08/23 1:18:19 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
They're not going to sleep with you.
Well, I have a partner so I'm okay with that.
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archedsoul
03/08/23 1:24:58 PM
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This is gonna happen all around the world eventually. And while the factors mentioned do play a part, this is just part of a much larger move towards social isolation because of the internet.

Essentially, the internet and related technologies gives you an endless amount of options on how to spend your time daily, with all sorts of people. So more and more people will be content and give up on traditional things like going out with people and socializing in person.

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Pikachuchupika
03/08/23 1:33:46 PM
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Cuticrusader09 posted...
Women dont want kids.

They also dont want hafus because they get treated like foreigners.

They'll go extinct if they don't. It's their only choice.
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03/08/23 1:47:22 PM
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happening in da west too, there are places in north america e.g. vermont and eur0pean countries with lower tfr than japan
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n my opinion this is a problem that will work itself out over the next century. these 800,000 kids have parents who chose to procreate despite all the odds. they may have inherited a constellation of traits that allow them to resist the negative effects of modernity on fertility and japan may see a rebound as kids come of age.
japan ghost town vlogs of the 2050s will be sick

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NoxObscuras
03/08/23 1:54:49 PM
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Why does the population need to grow though? Aren't their big cities overpopulated?

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Questionmarktarius
03/08/23 1:59:49 PM
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"declining population"

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DarkBuster22904
03/08/23 2:05:56 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
"declining population"

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/5/AAEhCpAAEQYv.jpg
That's right up there with people who go "global warming" next to a picture of a Blizzard. And just as disingenuous.

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Irony
03/08/23 2:09:30 PM
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Homeless_Waifu posted...
Isn't most of it women getting partially nude, doing lewd things?
If by that you mean gangbangs then ya

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AmericaTheBrave
03/08/23 2:11:44 PM
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Pikachuchupika posted...
They'll go extinct if they don't. It's their only choice.

That's the thing.

They'd rather go extinct than make that choice.

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Letron_James
03/08/23 2:18:21 PM
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Probably because it's a society of racist cucks tbh

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KStateKing17
03/08/23 2:23:19 PM
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I still don't see why declining populations are a bad thing. I don't believe the world is overpopulated, but how much of our billions of people are actually doing anything? A decrease doesn't sound too bad.

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DoctorPiranha3
03/08/23 2:29:47 PM
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KStateKing17 posted...
I still don't see why declining populations are a bad thing. I don't believe the world is overpopulated, but how much of our billions of people are actually doing anything? A decrease doesn't sound too bad.
It will literally cripple developed societies and cause mass suffering.

The problem is that the world is racist as fuck. Poorer countries have high birth rates but developed countries like Japan don't want to bolster their waning population with brown people.
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Number090684
03/08/23 2:29:51 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
It's almost like crippling societal expectations, toxic work culture, and raising your kids to focus so hard on school to the complete expense of social and personal skills/development has some serious downsides.

100%

It's already hard enough to be successful in the US I can't imagine how crippling it must be to be considered above average and successful in Japan.
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