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Chicken
03/04/23 8:10:44 AM
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Good?

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Southernfatman
03/04/23 8:11:41 AM
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Pretty much. We have some nice art/music vs an endless list of horrible acts of violence and oppression and cruelty.

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apolloooo
03/04/23 8:12:24 AM
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Yup

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Nukazie
03/04/23 8:13:50 AM
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if only people do as they were told

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apocalyptic_4
03/04/23 8:16:01 AM
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No

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SenlinRescinds
03/04/23 8:18:25 AM
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No, the Bible jost prilovides a target. The harm comes from people.

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TheOtherMike
03/04/23 8:21:46 AM
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That was never not the case.

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MabusIncarnate
03/04/23 8:33:51 AM
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Yeah, when it all starts off with a recruiting campaign of "Join our religion, or be raped and murdered" you start to wonder. The amount of people slain during the Christianization of Europe is pretty absurd.

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Smokex288
03/04/23 8:34:56 AM
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Idk how anyone in the modern age can buy into religion.
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lennethsoki
03/04/23 8:44:49 AM
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Nah

Religion in general instilled firmer morals in societies the world over, from Buddhism to Christianity.

If it werent a thing, thered be a hell of a lot more wars and people getting hurt or killed without its influence. The fear of spiritual or otherworldly punishment is much stronger than its worldly counterparts.

Yes, people got killed in the name of religion. But the overall effect has been incredibly positive.

Besides, if it werent religion, humanity would find SOMETHING to kill and conquer for, whether its their own country or another cause.

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WestOfDaRockies
03/04/23 8:49:18 AM
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Id rather live in countries where Christianity is practiced than North Korea, Stalins Russia, Mais China, Castros Cuba, Pol Pots Cambodia, etc.

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WestOfDaRockies
03/04/23 8:52:12 AM
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*Maos

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DrizztLink
03/04/23 8:56:05 AM
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lennethsoki posted...
If it werent a thing, thered be a hell of a lot more wars and people getting hurt or killed without its influence. The fear of spiritual or otherworldly punishment is much stronger than its worldly counterparts.
The Rhinelands say hello.

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Ricemills
03/04/23 9:04:50 AM
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The Bible don't harm people, people harm people.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/04/23 9:05:14 AM
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No. People are people no matter what they follow. I'd argue that it helped provide structure to a chaotic society.

Nowadays society isnt as chaotic so you could argue organized religion isnt as needed.

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averagejoel
03/04/23 9:08:34 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
No. People are people no matter what they follow. I'd argue that it helped provide structure to a chaotic society.

Nowadays society isnt as chaotic so you could argue organized religion isnt as needed.
how are you measuring how "chaotic" a society is?

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Cheater87
03/04/23 9:12:01 AM
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Most agreeable.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/04/23 9:12:20 AM
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averagejoel posted...
how are you measuring how "chaotic" a society is?

Not using any measurement technique. I assume the world back then would be much more chaotic than what we live in now.

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averagejoel
03/04/23 9:12:49 AM
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WestOfDaRockies posted...
Id rather live in countries where Christianity is practiced than North Korea, Stalins Russia, Mais China, Castros Cuba, Pol Pots Cambodia, etc.
do... do you think christianity isn't (or wasn't) practised there?

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averagejoel
03/04/23 9:13:39 AM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Not using any measurement technique. I assume the world back then would be much more chaotic than what we live in now.
well you know what they say about assuming

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YugiNoob
03/04/23 9:14:14 AM
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No. It's sad that people misinterpret it to justify their misdeeds, but I feel like the good people get out of it outweighs the bad.

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Chicken
03/04/23 9:14:39 AM
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lennethsoki posted...
Nah

Religion in general instilled firmer morals in societies the world over, from Buddhism to Christianity.

If it werent a thing, thered be a hell of a lot more wars and people getting hurt or killed without its influence. The fear of spiritual or otherworldly punishment is much stronger than its worldly counterparts.

Yes, people got killed in the name of religion. But the overall effect has been incredibly positive.

Besides, if it werent religion, humanity would find SOMETHING to kill and conquer for, whether its their own country or another cause.
Are you saying the world is a better place because the crusades happened?

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SpiritSephiroth
03/04/23 9:20:13 AM
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averagejoel posted...
well you know what they say about assuming

In general yes.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/04/23 9:22:09 AM
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Chicken posted...
Are you saying the world is a better place because the crusades happened?

No, but because of religion it provided structure and shelter to those in need whilst also being a stable foundation for most societies to flourish without the need of conflict or warfare.

Yes, conflict still happens, but building societies based on a common ideology is a much more peaceful way to live.

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WestOfDaRockies
03/04/23 9:37:14 AM
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averagejoel posted...

do... do you think christianity isn't (or wasn't) practised there?


https://youtu.be/2mY0y6wnoEE

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ROOTFayth
03/04/23 9:39:07 AM
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I doubt that, probably kept a lot of people in check, not everyone obviously but a good amount
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EbonTitanium
03/04/23 9:43:29 AM
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Nah. At worse, it gave people a scapegoat for their actions.

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averagejoel
03/04/23 10:08:42 AM
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WestOfDaRockies posted...
https://youtu.be/2mY0y6wnoEE
do you think that there were zero (0) practising christians in the soviet union?

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Euripides
03/04/23 10:10:11 AM
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Yes, it has alway been used to control the masses
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WestOfDaRockies
03/04/23 10:12:03 AM
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Bolshevikism is antithetical to Christianity.

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Foppe
03/04/23 10:13:33 AM
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The Russian Orthodox Church suddenly never existed.

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averagejoel
03/04/23 10:25:42 AM
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WestOfDaRockies posted...
Bolshevikism is antithetical to Christianity.
yes or no. do you think that there were zero practising christians in the soviet union?

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WestOfDaRockies
03/04/23 10:34:50 AM
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Not freely the way Christianity is supposed to be practiced, no.

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AloneIBreak
03/04/23 10:39:02 AM
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The Bible has thwarted moral progress for hundreds (thousands?) of years and continues to do so to the present day. Even among the good people on this board, people who are overtly non religious, its insidious influence is overwhelming.

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averagejoel
03/04/23 10:43:21 AM
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WestOfDaRockies posted...
Not freely the way Christianity is supposed to be practiced, no.
that was not a stipulation in your initial post

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Heartomaton
03/04/23 10:43:54 AM
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Joel stop playing with that SMALt. You'll catch something.

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josifrees
03/04/23 10:44:28 AM
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ummm people are garbage the New Testament doesnt have any genocidal stuff in it lol

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Irony
03/04/23 10:45:40 AM
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The New Testament was created when somebody read the Old Testament and was like "wow I'm going to hell according to this. Better fix that"

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averagejoel
03/04/23 10:55:34 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
Joel stop playing with that SMALt. You'll catch something.
oh. my bad. didn't know it was smal

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Heartomaton
03/04/23 10:58:54 AM
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You're good. Just wouldn't watch you getting sick.

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josifrees
03/04/23 10:59:10 AM
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Jesus: treat others as you would be treated
People: murder and exploit everyone!!!!

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josifrees
03/04/23 10:59:54 AM
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Jesus: the raven neither reaps nor sows yet the lord takes care of them!
People: if you dont work hard you are going to hell

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josifrees
03/04/23 11:00:31 AM
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Jesus: let he who has not sinned cast the first stone
People: idgaf

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CyricZ
03/04/23 11:01:13 AM
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The Bible is a book, man. A book with many versions.

The problem is white supremacy.

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bloodyarts
03/04/23 11:17:51 AM
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CyricZ posted...
The Bible is a book, man. A book with many versions.

The problem is white supremacy.
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Smackems
03/04/23 11:25:37 AM
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Mostly. Though giving people hope after death is a good thing I think. If we could just have that part it'd be way more gooder

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SSMajinVegeta2
03/04/23 11:34:22 AM
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Absolutely not. Religion has helped humans have a purpose other than killing and conquering one another.

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JoeDangIt
03/04/23 11:52:45 AM
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I think teaching people basic logic would improve their behavior more than any religion has.
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hockeybub89
03/04/23 11:55:45 AM
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I can't stand when people are like "remove religion and people would find a new reason to hate and hurt". Noted, still sounds like religion is the current cause.

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bobaban
03/04/23 12:50:39 PM
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josifrees posted...
ummm people are garbage the New Testament doesnt have any genocidal stuff in it lol
Its not so simple. The crusades had followed the version of the Bible with the New Testament.

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