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Background_Guy
01/12/23 12:22:51 AM
#152:


But even so, I'll shut up. I'll do it for you.
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meestermj
01/12/23 12:25:43 AM
#153:


Dan_Haren- posted...
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth#:~:text=Wage%20Growth%20in%20the%20United,percent%20in%20March%20of%202009.

Wages did keep up with inflation, it actually outpaced inflation earlier last year.

But you guys can go ahead and keep posting bullshit our of your asses while I post facts.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/states-with-lowest-cost-of-living

The living wage for a family of four in Mississippi is $80,523. However, the median income for a family of four is $70,656.

Mississippi has the lowest cost of living in the entire US, and wages still don't match CoL.
And that's median income, not minimum wage.
Wages have not kept up with CoL by any metric.


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meestermj
01/12/23 12:26:30 AM
#154:


Background_Guy posted...
Bruh I'm just trying to give common sense advice like "stealing is wrong" and "don't say all poor people are criminals"

Background_Guy posted...
But even so, I'll shut up. I'll do it for you.
Good. There's already enough people itt with reading comprehension issues. We don't need yours too.

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 12:30:41 AM
#155:


Dan_Haren- posted...
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth#:~:text=Wage%20Growth%20in%20the%20United,percent%20in%20March%20of%202009.

Wages did keep up with inflation, it actually outpaced inflation earlier last year.

But you guys can go ahead and keep posting bullshit our of your asses while I post facts.

"Facts"

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Dan_Haren-
01/12/23 12:42:29 AM
#156:


meestermj posted...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/states-with-lowest-cost-of-living

Mississippi has the lowest cost of living in the entire US, and wages still don't match CoL.
And that's median income, not minimum wage.
Wages have not kept up with CoL by any metric.

You argued wages haven't kept up with inflation and I proved you wrong.

Whether or not wages meet cost of living is a separate topic.

The link you listed has bad methodology. Their evaluate cost of living by averages but income by median. That's comparing apples to oranges. They should compare median to both or averages of both. Averages are always higher than medians when dealing with income related matters.
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meestermj
01/12/23 12:46:41 AM
#157:


Dan_Haren- posted...
You argued wages haven't kept up with inflation and I proved you wrong.

Whether or not wages meet cost of living is a separate topic.

The link you listed has bad methodology. Their evaluate cost of living by averages but income by median. That's comparing apples to oranges. They should compare median to both or averages of both. Averages are always higher than medians when dealing with income related matters.
Really any excuse to not recognize reality.
I've said all I can here, some people really are too far gone.
Also, I never once mentioned inflation. Maybe actually read who you're responding to and about what.

Enjoy your night, I've silenced enough fools for one night.

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 9:04:05 AM
#158:


meestermj posted...
Enjoy your night, I've silenced enough fools for one night.

Some of us go to sleep to work the next day. You know that thing called work? It's what we do to get paid to earn money instead of stealing and trying to get cool points for being an internet tough guy. I'm sure your depraved ranting really helped the under privileged though.

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Number090684
01/12/23 9:08:28 AM
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While inflation is definitely out of control scummy people aren't stealing food from stores as much as other items that have much higher secondary market value. Stores and some people using theft to justify inflation and vice versa are incredibly dishonest.
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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 9:12:21 AM
#160:


Number090684 posted...
While inflation is definitely out of control scummy people aren't stealing food from stores as much as other items that have much higher secondary market value. Stores and some people using theft to justify inflation and vice versa are incredibly dishonest.

Nah let's make up stories where the downtrodden underdog family man played by paul rudd has to steal bread for his family because the evil corpos are over charging him! He had to do it! There were simply no other options, except all the ones we ignore! Ah yea, owning the corpos by committing crimes that are completely unnecessary and putting your future well being at risk!

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Lorenzo_2003
01/12/23 9:17:23 AM
#161:


FelineCyborg posted...
Nah let's make up stories where the downtrodden underdog family man played by paul rudd has to steal bread for his family because the evil corpos are over charging him! He had to do it! There were simply no other options, except all the ones we ignore!

Paul Rudds a good choice. But if you really want to manipulate audiences, cast Tom Hanks as a priest struggling with his faith as he has to steal bread and toys for orphans during Christmas.

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 9:22:04 AM
#162:


FelineCyborg posted...
Nah let's make up stories where the downtrodden underdog family man played by paul rudd has to steal bread for his family because the evil corpos are over charging him! He had to do it! There were simply no other options, except all the ones we ignore!

Like seriously addressing wealth inequality as a society? Heavily punishing wage theft? A universal basic income coupled with anti-price gouging measures for banks, renters, and grocers?

But sure, let's focus on what small time thefts are happening

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1337toothbrush
01/12/23 9:30:48 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
I live in one of the most expensive cities in this country and I'm paying $900 for rent.
Just stopping by to laugh at this ridiculous claim. What is "this country" by the way? It's certainly not the USA or Canada. Hell, I was going to joke that it was Mexico, but when I looked it up, "one of the most expensive cities" there is still more expensive than what you've claimed. How many roommates do you have living with you?

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Payzmaykr
01/12/23 10:35:55 AM
#164:


Gremlynn posted...
CALLED IT!

nope, shut the fuck up. You don't give a fuck. You just like feeling superior to somebody else.

Mother fucking GUARANTEE it, you have never once in your entire fucking life put even a modicum of thought towards corporations committing wage theft in the literal billions per year, absolutely dwarfing their ENTIRE shrinkage (theft, loss, damaged in shipping, expired, etc). You don't give a fuck about the victims of this kind of wage theft having to choose between paying their heating bill or buying food because they already don't make enough to live off of even before the corporations fucking rob them blind.

To you that's all "white collar crime". It's hidden, it's numbers on a screen in an office. it's not "real crime", so when FINALLY a corporation gets caught and fined and has to pay the money back, that's good enough! They don't need an actual PUNISHMENT, just give back what they took, after they made additional profit off of it!

Where were you when it Walgreens fucking ADMITTED that they massively exaggerated their shrinkage to theft as an excuse to close stores in areas they already planned to close, because "we had to close due to theft!" is better PR than "this location was less profitable than others even after we ran it on a skeleton crew, bled it dry for a few months until it was no longer profitable at all without actually investing money into it, then closed!"? Let me guess! "Well that's not illegal, they can do that."

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TheHoldSteady
01/12/23 10:42:17 AM
#165:


FelineCyborg posted...
Nah let's make up stories where the downtrodden underdog family man played by paul rudd has to steal bread for his family because the evil corpos are over charging him! He had to do it! There were simply no other options, except all the ones we ignore! Ah yea, owning the corpos by committing crimes that are completely unnecessary and putting your future well being at risk!

Lmao you claimed to paying $900 in rent in "one of the most expensive cities" that when that'll barely get you a place in the deep south. Then you get all pissy about a hypothetical scenario using truthful statistics that you can easily Google. But you don't care about the truth, you just want to turn a blind eye to actual issues facing this country so you deflect, just like every Republican (which you obviously are) does.


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Payzmaykr
01/12/23 11:10:30 AM
#166:


meestermj posted...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/states-with-lowest-cost-of-living

Mississippi has the lowest cost of living in the entire US, and wages still don't match CoL.
And that's median income, not minimum wage.
Wages have not kept up with CoL by any metric.
Exactly. Its outright comical to even try to suggest that wages are keeping up with inflation. Even people in other countries know how untrue that is.
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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 12:26:31 PM
#167:


1337toothbrush posted...
Just stopping by to laugh at this ridiculous claim. What is "this country" by the way? It's certainly not the USA or Canada. Hell, I was going to joke that it was Mexico, but when I looked it up, "one of the most expensive cities" there is still more expensive than what you've claimed. How many roommates do you have living with you?

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1337toothbrush
01/12/23 12:27:12 PM
#168:


So if you're splitting rent in half, your rent is actually $1800 which is still pretty damn cheap for "one of the most expensive cities".

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TheHoldSteady
01/12/23 1:03:04 PM
#169:


1337toothbrush posted...
So if you're splitting rent in half, your rent is actually $1800 which is still pretty damn cheap for "one of the most expensive cities".

And people who are well off don't rent. Everyone knows its better to buy a house because you're investing instead of giving your money away. Rent is only for people who can't afford the ludicrous housing prices. So I think he's not as well off as he's making it out to be and is projecting.


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Will_VIIII
01/12/23 1:07:50 PM
#170:


mustachedmystic posted...
How many times a year does McDonalds get sued by some idiot that spills coffee on himself?
I know this is a popular "gotcha" but it's been long debunked.

The Mc Donald's which was sued was warned multiple times that their coffee maker exceeded safe temperatures. The woman who spilled coffee on herself suffered 3rd degree burns, meaning the coffee was practically at a boiling point.

The lawsuit was justified in that case.

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sull56ivan2010
01/12/23 1:16:31 PM
#171:


Will_VIIII posted...
I know this is a popular "gotcha" but it's been long debunked.

The Mc Donald's which was sued was warned multiple times that their coffee maker exceeded safe temperatures. The woman who spilled coffee on herself suffered 3rd degree burns, meaning the coffee was practically at a boiling point.

The lawsuit was justified in that case.
Proof? I find it a little hard to believe after that many years.

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Will_VIIII
01/12/23 1:18:48 PM
#172:


sull56ivan2010 posted...
Proof? I find it a little hard to believe after that many years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants

I can't speak to the 700 cases that someone else claimed but this is the case in question

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 1:19:40 PM
#173:


TheHoldSteady posted...
And people who are well off don't rent. Everyone knows its better to buy a house because you're investing instead of giving your money away. Rent is only for people who can't afford the ludicrous housing prices. So I think he's not as well off as he's making it out to be and is projecting.

Did I ever say I was well off? How does this board equate i dont steal to well off? Show me where I said that? And I'm including all expenses in that ...electric...water...parking...internet...etc

Projecting what? That stealing is wrong and defeatist victimizing behavior? Yea I am. The way arguments are tracked on this board...we are talking about stealing. What are you talking about?

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gasgpmo
01/12/23 1:22:47 PM
#174:


Grocery stores are absolutely fine with throwing out hundreds of dollars a day in overstocked food items though. Just because they have reached their arbitrary "best before" dates. That's all fine. It's the shoplifting, though. The shoplifting is what's preventing them from hitting record profits. Oh wait, they are hitting record profits? Gee.
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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 1:25:01 PM
#175:


gasgpmo posted...
Grocery stores are absolutely fine with throwing out hundreds of dollars a day in overstocked food items though. Just because they have reached their arbitrary "best before" dates. That's all fine. It's the shoplifting, though. The shoplifting is what's preventing them from hitting record profits. Oh wait, they are hitting record profits? Gee.

Don't shop there then. Grow your own food. Go to a food bank. Stop victimizing yourself like there's nothing else to do

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Will_VIIII
01/12/23 1:31:54 PM
#176:


gasgpmo posted...
Grocery stores are absolutely fine with throwing out hundreds of dollars a day in overstocked food items though. Just because they have reached their arbitrary "best before" dates. That's all fine. It's the shoplifting, though. The shoplifting is what's preventing them from hitting record profits. Oh wait, they are hitting record profits? Gee.
People dumpster dive for those foods

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gasgpmo
01/12/23 1:32:57 PM
#177:


FelineCyborg posted...
Don't shop there then. Grow your own food. Go to a food bank. Stop victimizing yourself like there's nothing else to do
Sure, I'll just go and grow my own food in the field I have and... Hey wait a minute!

Stop victimizing yourself
How is complaining about food waste "victimizing myself" Mr. Bootlicker?
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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 1:37:29 PM
#178:


gasgpmo posted...
Sure, I'll just go and grow my own food in the field I have and... Hey wait a minute!

How is complaining about food waste "victimizing myself" Mr. Bootlicker?

You don't need a field. Stop complaining about pointless shit ffs

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gasgpmo
01/12/23 1:39:48 PM
#179:


FelineCyborg posted...
Stop complaining about pointless shit ffs
You first.
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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 1:40:46 PM
#180:


gasgpmo posted...
You first.

What am I complaining about?

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gasgpmo
01/12/23 1:49:55 PM
#181:


FelineCyborg posted...
What am I complaining about?
People criticising the illogical routine practices of grocery stores and their hypocritical bullshit. Which you followed up by whining "waah waah stop" when I mocked your fantasy solution of growing food out of nowhere.
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TheHoldSteady
01/12/23 1:55:41 PM
#182:


FelineCyborg posted...
Did I ever say I was well off? How does this board equate i dont steal to well off? Show me where I said that? And I'm including all expenses in that ...electric...water...parking...internet...etc

Projecting what? That stealing is wrong and defeatist victimizing behavior? Yea I am. The way arguments are tracked on this board...we are talking about stealing. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about how you're affected negatively by the broken system you're defending.

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 2:25:45 PM
#184:


FelineCyborg posted...
Don't shop there then. Grow your own food. Go to a food bank. Stop victimizing yourself like there's nothing else to do

Stop focusing on individual actions. Start acknowledging the systematic injustices that push people into poverty, into crime, into despair.

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 2:42:57 PM
#185:


TheHoldSteady posted...
I'm talking about how you're affected negatively by the broken system you're defending.

Never said either way. But obviously I can only control me instead of throwing my humanity and morals away and contributing to the evil by stealing.

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 2:44:13 PM
#186:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
Stop focusing on individual actions. Start acknowledging the systematic injustices that push people into poverty, into crime, into despair.

Nobody is forced to steal though. People need to be accountable on an individual basis. This society is based on individualism when it comes to personal freedoms but not when it comes to accountability?

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 2:56:26 PM
#187:


FelineCyborg posted...
Nobody is forced to steal though. People need to be accountable on an individual basis. This society is based on individualism when it comes to personal freedoms but not when it comes to accountability?

Will you stop dodging the fucking point I'm making? You won't address it because you can't prove me wrong and just default to "but Its wronnngggg"

Individualism is a farce. No one succeeds solely through their own actions nor do they fail through solely their own actions.

Accountability for individuals stealing is such a fucking minor goddamned thing when we have corporations raping and pillaging the world, selling our freedoms, destroying our planet...all to make money. Not a fucking peep from the chud brigade.

But Joe stole a toaster, laundry detergent, a hair straightener and I'm supposed to give a fuck? No.


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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 3:51:20 PM
#188:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
Will you stop dodging the fucking point I'm making? You won't address it because you can't prove me wrong and just default to "but Its wronnngggg"

Individualism is a farce. No one succeeds solely through their own actions nor do they fail through solely their own actions.

Accountability for individuals stealing is such a fucking minor goddamned thing when we have corporations raping and pillaging the world, selling our freedoms, destroying our planet...all to make money. Not a fucking peep from the chud brigade.

But Joe stole a toaster, laundry detergent, a hair straightener and I'm supposed to give a fuck? No.

I don't understand the prevailing logic on this board a bad action doesn't count because it's not as bad as a worse action.

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 4:01:39 PM
#189:


FelineCyborg posted...
I don't understand the prevailing logic on this board a bad action doesn't count because it's not as bad as a worse action.

Respond appropriately to what I'm saying instead of deflecting.

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 4:02:31 PM
#190:


Stealing from those who have robbed the working class blind is not bad it is ethically correct to take back in some way.

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 4:04:17 PM
#191:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
Stealing from those who have robbed the working class blind is not bad it is ethically correct to take back in some way.

So an eye for an eye?

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gasgpmo
01/12/23 4:17:16 PM
#192:


FelineCyborg posted...
So an eye for an eye?
More like a paper cut for an amputation.
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Will_VIIII
01/12/23 4:18:05 PM
#193:


FelineCyborg posted...
So an eye for an eye?
Wow between this and the other topic you really don't have a grasp on equivalency huh

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 4:33:04 PM
#194:


FelineCyborg posted...
So an eye for an eye?

The difference between the two is about as big as the eye of a needle vs the eye of a hurricane.

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FelineCyborg
01/12/23 4:33:10 PM
#195:


Will_VIIII posted...
Wow between this and the other topic you really don't have a grasp on equivalency huh

Equivalency to you is bad thing is ok as long as it's not as bad as other bad thing

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FaultyCircuitry
01/12/23 4:34:56 PM
#196:


I'm not convinced FelineCyborg is real. Just someone asking for asinine responses via ChatGPT.

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Payzmaykr
01/12/23 4:45:00 PM
#197:


Warning!

Safeway is currently taking extra measures to steal from customers, outright. They mark something as one price and it rings up as three times whats advertised. I had to get them to fix that the other day and a few minutes ago, I saw this happen to the guy next to me in line.

They also price gouged energy drinks from 4/$5 to $3.60 each. Four packs of other drinks went from $7 to $11.

So theyre outright lying about the prices and you literally have to call them out to get the discount. Then they have to go verify it and it slows down the line even more. Boycott Safeway until they start to honor the social contract we once had. We need harsh, punitive measures to punish these people for what theyre doing to us.
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Payzmaykr
01/12/23 4:57:09 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I agree. The quality went down and the prices went way up. They also short staff so badly that you pretty much have to use the self checkout now.
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gasgpmo
01/12/23 5:20:12 PM
#200:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
I'm not convinced FelineCyborg is real. Just someone asking for asinine responses via ChatGPT.
You both have FC for initials. Must be your evil twin.
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