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ItsKaljinyuTime 11/30/22 2:37:40 PM #51: |
Nichtcrawler-X posted... They complain about a form of toxic behaviour that is classically linked to masculinity, but not exclusive to it. No one's talking about "toxic femininity," unless they mean to tie it back to toxic masculinity. No one's complaining about "The Matriarchy." --- Kaljinyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/30/22 3:02:53 PM #52: |
ItsKaljinyuTime posted... I know what this is about. When people complain about these things, they're saying toxic masculinity is at the root of it. Wanting to kill people is not toxic masculinity. That's just plain ol' being a dink. Believing that wanting to kill people makes somebody more of a man is toxic masculinity. Believing that wanting to kill people makes somebody more of a woman would be toxic femininity. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mensis 11/30/22 3:15:36 PM #53: |
ItsKaljinyuTime posted... "The Matriarchy."10/10 troll --- Stupid Pirate Guy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shananagainz 11/30/22 5:46:31 PM #54: |
adjl posted... Wanting to kill people is not toxic masculinity. That's just plain ol' being a dink. This is exactly what Ive been trying to say. Also doubting OP actually finished the game and this topic seems to prove that. --- Currently Playing: SMT 3: Nocturne, God of War 2005, Batman: Arkham Origins ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsKaljinyuTime 11/30/22 9:33:14 PM #55: |
adjl posted... Wanting to kill people is not toxic masculinity. That's just plain ol' being a dink. The argument from the people who cry "toxic masculinity" is that these ideas propagate in society because we stifle men from being like New Kratos, we instead prefer men to be like Classic Kratos. We believe that quiet introspect is not as cool or manly as being a fight-and-fuck machine, and that's toxic thinking. But I don't think it is toxic thinking. --- Kaljinyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/30/22 10:30:38 PM #56: |
ItsKaljinyuTime posted... The argument from the people who cry "toxic masculinity" is that these ideas propagate in society because we stifle men from being like New Kratos, we instead prefer men to be like Classic Kratos. We believe that quiet introspect is not as cool or manly as being a fight-and-fuck machine, and that's toxic thinking. adjl posted... Believing that wanting to kill people makes somebody more of a man is toxic masculinity. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsKaljinyuTime 11/30/22 10:45:40 PM #57: |
You just ignored my explanation, but that's what someone who doesn't have actual conversations about that stuff would do. The only people saying "It's not what you think" can't even answer what it is. They only have their viewpoints to go by. --- Kaljinyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 11/30/22 10:48:45 PM #58: |
No, I acknowledged your explanation. Your explanation just contained no semantic content that wasn't already addressed by what I'd already said, so I saw no need to create a new response. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsKaljinyuTime 11/30/22 11:22:08 PM #59: |
adjl posted... No, I acknowledged your explanation. Your explanation just contained no semantic content that wasn't already addressed by what I'd already said, so I saw no need to create a new response. I could just cite examples where God of War is being discussed as a "positive masculinity" counterpoint to the classic God of Wars. But that's something obvious and pervasive enough that you should've seen it by now if you don't live in a hugbox. But because you do live in a hugbox, even if I showed these conversations to you, you'd just say "Oh those don't count. Those guys are wrong, I decide what the toxic masculinity conversation is about." --- Kaljinyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 12/01/22 8:28:37 AM #60: |
I don't really care what the rest of the conversation is about. I'm responding specifically to what you have explicitly said in this topic, for which that single sentence is a perfectly adequate response. I don't doubt that there's further nuance to it, but until you present that nuance as part of your position, my response to you doesn't need to respond to that further nuance. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsKaljinyuTime 12/01/22 9:28:05 PM #61: |
adjl posted... I don't really care what the rest of the conversation is about. I'm responding specifically to what you have explicitly said in this topic, for which that single sentence is a perfectly adequate response. I don't doubt that there's further nuance to it, but until you present that nuance as part of your position, my response to you doesn't need to respond to that further nuance. That's what I'm saying. I could find you example after example of people talking about God of War as a new positive masculinity vs. toxic masculinity allegory, but all you'd say is "All of you are wrong, only I know what toxic masculinity is." --- Kaljinyu ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 12/01/22 9:30:09 PM #62: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/6/AAFUswAAD8VU.jpg --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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