Current Events > Feminist mother ends up accidentally raising her son into an incel.

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Hoodroar
10/28/22 7:00:02 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/y0ss7o/the_patriarchy_hurts_men_but_they_blame_it_on/

The patriarchy hurts men, but they blame it on women. This toxic masculinity hurts women, kills women. We all know that, but it also hurts men and boys.

As the mother of a boy, I raised him to be aware of his feelings and did my best to teach him healthy ways of dealing with and expressing them. Society and his father negated my teachings. Now he's unhappy and turning into an Incel at 25. He blames me.

Until we have a major societal change, nothing your mother teaches you will stick. I'm sure, had my son been a daughter, everything I taught her would have also been negated. She'd have had the same chance of internalizing our sick society and blaming it on me, just as my son did.

How do we fix this shit? I seriously thought teaching my son how to be a balanced human was the answer, but when the societal norms negate those teachings, it seems to make no difference.

People don't get that a risk to raising a boy with "socially conscious" values is the possibility of stunting the growth of his ability to confidently approach women and not second guess himself.

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cjsdowg
10/28/22 7:15:51 PM
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So it is everyone else fault but hers. Maybe not calling your son an incel might help.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
10/28/22 7:15:59 PM
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No accountability, no responsibility, no surprises here.

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Heartomaton
10/28/22 7:17:14 PM
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Which CEman?

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Shabriri
10/28/22 7:19:45 PM
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As the mother of a boy, I raised him to be aware of his feelings and did my best to teach him healthy ways of dealing with and expressing them. Society and his father negated my teachings. Now he's unhappy and turning into an Incel at 25. He blames me

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DoesntMatter
10/28/22 7:21:07 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
Society and his father negated my teachings.
get a load of this society

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Paragon21XX
10/28/22 7:21:24 PM
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lol reddit.com, more like fanfiction.net 2.0, amirite?

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CyricZ
10/28/22 7:23:23 PM
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Hoodroar
10/28/22 7:27:07 PM
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Sulugnaz posted...

Did you even read what you posted?

Yes, the part where it's said her son blames her particularly stood out. I'm just guessing at why he'd do that.

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Shabriri
10/28/22 7:27:35 PM
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you seem like you can relate to the son

thonk

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Hoodroar
10/28/22 7:31:03 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

Yeah a misogynist would never unfairly blame a woman for his problems!

The mom clearly says that she raised her son contrary to the societal standard. Maybe the standard is the standard because it's what works.

Shabriri posted...
you seem like you can relate to the son

thonk

No, I don't blame my mom for the state of my social life.

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Kakapo
10/28/22 7:32:45 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
The mom clearly says that she raised her son contrary to the societal standard. Maybe the standard is the standard because it's what works.

You are a very silly sausage

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CyricZ
10/28/22 7:33:09 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
The mom clearly says that she raised her son contrary to the societal standard.
She did not use those words. Read the thing you're basing your entire argument upon again.

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EmbraceOfDeath
10/28/22 7:34:54 PM
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Sounds like a run of the mill bad parent who wants validation that they couldn't possibly be the problem.

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IShall_Run_Amok
10/28/22 7:40:09 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
get a load of this society
You best believe in societies.

You're in one

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CyricZ
10/28/22 7:42:51 PM
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Yeah there is ultimately very little information here.

Near as I can find, the OP doesn't even respond to anyone or add any information.

So the idea that one can sus out what the real problem is would be a bit... haughty.

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ellis123
10/28/22 7:46:49 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Yeah there is ultimately very little information here.

Near as I can find, the OP doesn't even respond to anyone or add any information.

So the idea that one can sus out what the real problem is would be a bit... haughty.
TwoXChromosomes is the chud/incel forum for trolling. That's basically all the context needed.

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Hoodroar
10/28/22 7:47:16 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
How is this even supposed to be a response to what I said and not just a stupid dogwhistle about how misogyny is good

We don't even know if the dude is a misogynist. She said he blamed her, not all women in general.

CyricZ posted...
She did not use those words. Read the thing you're basing your entire argument upon again.

How can society "negate" her teachings if the teachings match society's?

Sulugnaz posted...
So you didnt read the whole part where he doesnt actually enshrine her teachings... yet youre passing it off as if its her teachings that causes this, but ok.

She said that society negated the teachings, not that he himself negated them. Societal contradictions came before any rejection on his own part.

Gladius_ posted...
Hm, weird. There are many men on CE alone that don't adhere to the standard and are fine. My husband doesn't adhere to the "Standard" either. Neither do "I" but we have successful careers and a happy marriage. Maybe people don't neatly fit into boxes.

That seems like exceptions to a trend, though.

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CyricZ
10/28/22 7:50:37 PM
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ellis123 posted...
TwoXChromosomes is the chud/incel forum for trolling. That's basically all the context needed.
What's TC doing there?

Hoodroar posted...
How can society "negate" her teachings if the teachings match society's?
By erasure and supplanting with new teachings. There's no diametric opposition necessary.

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coolguyjimmy
10/28/22 7:51:20 PM
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Antifar
10/28/22 7:53:30 PM
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Topic's not great

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NeonOctopuses
10/28/22 7:54:02 PM
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thronedfire2
10/28/22 7:54:32 PM
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TC has been a troll for a long time he just acts like he isn't

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ellis123
10/28/22 7:54:54 PM
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CyricZ posted...
What's TC doing there?
Confirming his bias'.

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VampireCoyote
10/28/22 7:56:58 PM
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true story from an actual person that actually happened

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haloiscoolisbak
10/28/22 7:59:32 PM
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I mean, I'd need two sides of the story before taking a side here. Parents can absolutely fuck their kids up. Trauma is contagious

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Dakimakura
10/28/22 8:23:55 PM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
No accountability, no responsibility, no surprises here.

Jail the incels! That will teach them.

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viewmaster_pi
10/28/22 8:27:47 PM
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i too am a mother old enough to have a 25 year old son and i also know and regularly use internet terms like incel derogatorily toward my child. i too haunt reddit despite being a mother and wife to complain about my family, for i am a real person and not made up, as are my posts real, and not made up

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MedeaLysistrata
10/28/22 8:28:52 PM
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Romulox28
10/28/22 8:29:08 PM
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If my mom had a Reddit account and was posting about how I get no pussy I would probably blow my brains out

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Shabriri
10/28/22 8:30:20 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
If my mom had a Reddit account and was posting about how I get no pussy I would probably blow my brains out
lmao irl

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Naysaspace
10/28/22 8:30:46 PM
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lmao "that" subreddit.
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Hoodroar
10/28/22 8:45:04 PM
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CyricZ posted...
By erasure and supplanting with new teachings. There's no diametric opposition necessary.

Perhaps.

thronedfire2 posted...
TC has been a troll for a long time he just acts like he isn't

Nope. These are my honest thoughts.

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ChocoboMogALT
10/28/22 8:46:24 PM
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Sometimes, probably quite often, kids don't exhibit the values their parents try to instill in them. Sometimes it's a failure of parenting, sometimes it's just essentially random. You have parents who teach conservative values, and parents who teach progressive values, and both have children who rebel and live contrary to their upbringing.

But damn is TC inserting a hell of a lot of his own reality into a small reddit post.

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silverpine
10/28/22 10:05:42 PM
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honestly it seems like parents just don't have control over their kids anymore now that the internet exists. you just birth them and feed them and they just stare into the screen and become what social media tells them to become. it's fucked up and scary bro
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