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Solar_Crimson 09/25/22 11:31:58 AM #1:	Specifically, prologues where the player doesn't actually play the game's mechanics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbwQ_rntCM --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:968281549] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Specifically, prologues where the player doesn't actually play the game's mechanics:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlbwQ_rntCM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 09/25/22 11:32:52 AM #2:	In short, fuck walk and talk cinematic games --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:968281563] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>In short, fuck walk and talk cinematic games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/25/22 11:36:50 AM #3:	Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968281617] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/25/22 11:39:38 AM #4:	BurmesePenguin posted... Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played. KH2 doesn't apply because you do play the game mechanics in the prologue --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:968281658] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played.</quote>KH2 doesn't apply because you do play the game mechanics in the prologue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 09/25/22 11:40:03 AM #5:	Because you're playing during the prologue not just getting prompts to walk this direction slowly while listening to some character spout off some exposition. --- A worthless existence <cite>tremain07 posted [p:968281664] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Because you're playing during the prologue not just getting prompts to walk this direction slowly while listening to some character spout off some exposition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
radical_rhino 09/25/22 11:41:44 AM #6:	I feel this when I start a new game, spend 5 minutes updating system software, 10 minutes installing and updating game software, and then theres 10 minutes of some boring story scene before the game lets me control my character and tells me to press X to jump. --- .____ [____]===0 . . . . Ye olde beating stick. <cite>radical_rhino posted [p:968281686] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>I feel this when I start a new game, spend 5 minutes updating system software, 10 minutes installing and updating game software, and then theres 10 minutes of some boring story scene before the game lets me control my character and tells me to press X to jump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 09/25/22 11:47:17 AM #7:	He followed up with this community post after seeing comments on that. https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxI73ycMeoc4aLK8mKQc4Zhl_qz7yxQVal --- https://i.imgur.com/vuNZ2wj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xitYdH6.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:968281773] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>He followed up with this community post after seeing comments on that.https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxI73ycMeoc4aLK8mKQc4Zhl_qz7yxQVal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/25/22 11:50:14 AM #8:	pokedude900 posted... He followed up with this community post after seeing comments on that. https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxI73ycMeoc4aLK8mKQc4Zhl_qz7yxQVal What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968281809] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>He followed up with this community post after seeing comments on that.https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxI73ycMeoc4aLK8mKQc4Zhl_qz7yxQVal</quote>What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/25/22 11:59:46 AM #9:	sometimes games have multiple aspects to them such as a story. that doesnt make them bad games. <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968281947] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>sometimes games have multiple aspects to them such as a story. that doesnt make them bad games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/25/22 12:06:12 PM #10:	Kloe_Rinz posted... sometimes games have multiple aspects to them such as a story. that doesnt make them bad games. He's not saying that it does. Just that games should let players get a feel of the actual gameplay within the first few minutes of it starting. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:968282061] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Kloe_Rinz posted... </cite><quote>sometimes games have multiple aspects to them such as a story. that doesnt make them bad games.</quote>He's not saying that it does. Just that games should let players get a feel of the actual gameplay within the first few minutes of it starting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 09/25/22 12:20:28 PM #11:	BurmesePenguin posted... What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile. Hello there! I've decided to give the Community feature a try. I can tell from the comments that my videos are proving helpful to a great many people. That's the main driving force behind this channel, so I'm truly glad to hear it. (I've been keeping an eye on the comments from overseas as well.) I do, however, have one simple request: Please refrain from speaking ill of other games and game developers. I personally owe a lot to a great many games, and I'm working hard to make this channel a positive influence on the gaming community as a whole, so I'd appreciate your help in keeping this a positive space. --- https://i.imgur.com/vuNZ2wj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xitYdH6.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:968282300] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted...</cite><quote>What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile.</quote><quote>Hello there!I've decided to give the Community feature a try.I can tell from the comments that my videos are proving helpful to a great many people. That's the main driving force behind this channel, so I'm truly glad to hear it. (I've been keeping an eye on the comments from overseas as well.)I do, however, have one simple request: Please refrain from speaking ill of other games and game developers.I personally owe a lot to a great many games, and I'm working hard to make this channel a positive influence on the gaming community as a whole, so I'd appreciate your help in keeping this a positive space.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunkyCat 09/25/22 12:21:41 PM #12:	BurmesePenguin posted... What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile. 'Dont slag off other devs or games' basically. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>FunkyCat posted [p:968282320] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>What it say? Cant see youtube comment posts on mobile.</quote>'Dont slag off other devs or games' basically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 09/25/22 12:25:31 PM #13:	I agree And on top of that, you can still have a long plot prolog. Just start with gameplay Watchdogs 2 did this well --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:968282392] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>I agreeAnd on top of that, you can still have a long plot prolog. Just start with gameplayWatchdogs 2 did this well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalkingLobsters 09/25/22 12:27:24 PM #14:	He looks like a girl --- http://i.imgur.com/fsYJcFn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/SZie71I.jpg Starcraft 2 Username = Gears <cite>WalkingLobsters posted [p:968282424] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>He looks like a girl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/26/22 7:54:00 AM #15:	BUMP WalkingLobsters posted... He looks like a girl No he does not. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:968301280] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BUMPWalkingLobsters posted... </cite><quote>He looks like a girl</quote>No he does not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 09/26/22 8:06:51 AM #16:	Sakurai is delectable man candy. I hope I'm that hot when I'm 50 <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:968301421] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Sakurai is delectable man candy. I hope I'm that hot when I'm 50 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 09/26/22 8:07:43 AM #17:	BurmesePenguin posted... Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played. This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game...... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:968301433] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played.</quote>This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 09/26/22 8:11:46 AM #18:	Fuck forced tutorials and fuck prologues that are "walk 5 feet, cutscene, walk 5 feet, cutscene" --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:968301468] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Fuck forced tutorials and fuck prologues that are "walk 5 feet, cutscene, walk 5 feet, cutscene"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 09/26/22 8:15:31 AM #19:	I weirdly love the intro to Persona 4. It's like two straight hours of fucking story segments and the only "gameplay" is walking down a street for a few seconds. Even after that the gameplay is so sparse that it could be another hour or so before you're finally in the first dungeon. But fuck it I don't know why I just love getting absorbed in the way the set up Inaba lol. Like I get that it's almost objectively a terrible practice but gosh >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:968301505] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>I weirdly love the intro to Persona 4. It's like two straight hours of fucking story segments and the only "gameplay" is walking down a street for a few seconds. Even after that the gameplay is so sparse that it could be another hour or so before you're finally in the first dungeon.But fuck it I don't know why I just love getting absorbed in the way the set up Inaba lol. Like I get that it's almost objectively a terrible practice but gosh >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 09/26/22 8:26:21 AM #20:	I remember being exhausted with MGSV after playing that ADHD-induced opening sequence and then being immediately dropped into an open world right after. I have yet to go back to it. --- I'm a little teapot blowing off steam. https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe <cite>Kitt posted [p:968301623] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>I remember being exhausted with MGSV after playing that ADHD-induced opening sequence and then being immediately dropped into an open world right after.I have yet to go back to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/26/22 8:48:14 AM #21:	Lairen posted... This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game...... Of all time! <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968301891] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game......</quote>Of all time!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass2 09/26/22 8:49:20 AM #22:	Super Paper Mario was such a huge turn off for its long unskippable prologue. <cite>Bass2 posted [p:968301911] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Super Paper Mario was such a huge turn off for its long unskippable prologue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 09/26/22 8:49:37 AM #23:	BurmesePenguin posted... Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played. KH2 Opening dragggs <cite>PowerOats posted [p:968301916] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted...</cite><quote>Hes not wrong, but the fact remains KH2 has the best opening of any video game ever made, including every game Ive never played.</quote>KH2 Opening dragggs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
party_animal07 09/26/22 8:54:00 AM #24:	Kim_Seong-a posted... I weirdly love the intro to Persona 4. It's like two straight hours of fucking story segments and the only "gameplay" is walking down a street for a few seconds. Even after that the gameplay is so sparse that it could be another hour or so before you're finally in the first dungeon. But fuck it I don't know why I just love getting absorbed in the way the set up Inaba lol. Like I get that it's almost objectively a terrible practice but gosh >_> Persona 4 was the first thing that came to mind. 5 is even worse in this regard. I love the Persona series, but they need to work on streamlining the first 4 or so hours. --- https://warpzone.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GRANDIA_-696x509.jpg <cite>party_animal07 posted [p:968301961] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>I weirdly love the intro to Persona 4. It's like two straight hours of fucking story segments and the only "gameplay" is walking down a street for a few seconds. Even after that the gameplay is so sparse that it could be another hour or so before you're finally in the first dungeon.But fuck it I don't know why I just love getting absorbed in the way the set up Inaba lol. Like I get that it's almost objectively a terrible practice but gosh >_></quote>Persona 4 was the first thing that came to mind. 5 is even worse in this regard. I love the Persona series, but they need to work on streamlining the first 4 or so hours.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 09/26/22 8:55:13 AM #25:	Tales is a bit like this too. Only tales game with a good intro sequence is Symphonia and Berseria <cite>PowerOats posted [p:968301978] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Tales is a bit like this too. Only tales game with a good intro sequence is Symphonia and Berseria</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 09/26/22 8:59:18 AM #26:	Lairen posted... This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game...... Ty. Literally the most boring prologue to any game and its soooo long. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:968302034] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Lairen posted... </cite><quote>This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game......</quote>Ty. Literally the most boring prologue to any game and its soooo long.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 09/26/22 9:06:56 AM #27:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJFbsQBvLw ^Thought of Conan's video while watching the video. Lairen posted... This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game...... "I guess my summer vacation is... over" Jesse McCartney nailed this line. --- https://i.imgur.com/WmIB016.jpg https://i.imgur.com/53FGj6K.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:968302133] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXJFbsQBvLw^Thought of Conan's video while watching the video.Lairen posted...</cite><quote>This is a meme right? Literally the worst part of that game......</quote>"I guess my summer vacation is... over"Jesse McCartney nailed this line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/26/22 9:09:45 AM #28:	I had this issue with Yakuza 0. It was very slow to get going. The only blemish on an otherwise great game. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:968302162] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>I had this issue with Yakuza 0. It was very slow to get going. The only blemish on an otherwise great game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thx1138 09/26/22 9:11:28 AM #29:	radical_rhino posted... I feel this when I start a new game, spend 5 minutes updating system software, 10 minutes installing and updating game software, and then theres 10 minutes of some boring story scene before the game lets me control my character and tells me to press X to jump. its the worst <cite>thx1138 posted [p:968302187] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>radical_rhino posted... </cite><quote>I feel this when I start a new game, spend 5 minutes updating system software, 10 minutes installing and updating game software, and then theres 10 minutes of some boring story scene before the game lets me control my character and tells me to press X to jump.</quote>its the worst </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/26/22 9:21:56 AM #30:	party_animal07 posted... Persona 4 was the first thing that came to mind. 5 is even worse in this regard. I love the Persona series, but they need to work on streamlining the first 4 or so hours. Sakurai actually used Persona 5 as a good example of what to do, especially when it comes to RPGs. With Persona 5, he praised its choice to have the game start with the player-controlled escape from the Casino Palace midway through the story, before going back to how it all started, because it directly lets players see and feel how the main gameplay works. --- "To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:968302326] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>party_animal07 posted... </cite><quote>Persona 4 was the first thing that came to mind. 5 is even worse in this regard. I love the Persona series, but they need to work on streamlining the first 4 or so hours.</quote>Sakurai actually used Persona 5 as a good example of what to do, especially when it comes to RPGs. With Persona 5, he praised its choice to have the game start with the player-controlled escape from the Casino Palace midway through the story, before going back to how it all started, because it directly lets players see and feel how the main gameplay works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 09/26/22 9:25:05 AM #31:	UnfairRepresent posted... I agree And on top of that, you can still have a long plot prolog. Just start with gameplay Watchdogs 2 did this well I was struggling to think of how you'd do this "right" but this is a great example. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:968302377] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>I agreeAnd on top of that, you can still have a long plot prolog. Just start with gameplayWatchdogs 2 did this well</quote>I was struggling to think of how you'd do this "right" but this is a great example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 09/26/22 9:54:11 AM #32:	It's something that's really cool the first 20 times you see it. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:968302782] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>It's something that's really cool the first 20 times you see it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 09/26/22 9:58:02 AM #33:	When the game came out everyone was bitching about the opening as Roxas and they had to be reassured that the game is great and youll control Sora after it cause they were worried it was MGS2 all over again. Funny enough its the exact opposite of the issue of MGS2. --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:968302851] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>When the game came out everyone was bitching about the opening as Roxas and they had to be reassured that the game is great and youll control Sora after it cause they were worried it was MGS2 all over again. Funny enough its the exact opposite of the issue of MGS2.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/26/22 10:05:51 AM #34:	When the game came out we were all baby children. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968302984] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>When the game came out we were all baby children. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 09/26/22 10:08:09 AM #35:	BurmesePenguin posted... When the game came out we were all baby children. I was 19...... --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:968303022] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>When the game came out we were all baby children.</quote>I was 19......</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 09/26/22 10:09:00 AM #36:	Yikes! <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:968303035] in Sakurai's ... [t:80177709]...</cite> <quote>Yikes!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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