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BlackPink462
09/25/22 2:26:28 AM
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https://reddit.com/r/science/comments/xn6u4q/association_between_meatless_diet_and_depression/

This association is independent of socioeconomic, lifestyle factors and nutrient deficiencies.

Eat your meat! You cant have any pudding if you dont eat your meat.
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Back_Stabbath
09/25/22 2:55:28 AM
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DD_Divine
09/25/22 2:58:41 AM
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Jokes on you I was depressed before I went meatless

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Vicious_Dios
09/25/22 3:13:45 AM
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Who woulda thunk it

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pinky0926
09/25/22 3:28:07 AM
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You guys could read the top comment but thats less fun than saying fuck vegans, right

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Questionmarktarius
09/25/22 3:28:22 AM
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A life without MSG is a life not worth living.
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coolguyjimmy
09/25/22 4:05:51 AM
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Wasn't this pretty obvious... since... ya know.... B12, and humans inability to make it, is pretty well known, only reliable way for vegans to get B12 is fortified foods or supplements.

Here are some of the Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency
If you have anaemia caused by a vitamin B12 deficiency, you may have other symptoms, such as:
  • a pale yellow tinge to your skin
  • a sore and red tongue (glossitis)
  • mouth ulcers
  • pins and needles (paraesthesia)
  • changes in the way that you walk and move around
  • disturbed vision
  • irritability
  • depression
  • changes in the way you think, feel and behave
  • a decline in your mental abilities, such as memory, understanding and judgement (dementia)


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BloodMoon7
09/25/22 4:10:15 AM
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Mfw I eat meat but I'm still depressed.

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Questionmarktarius
09/25/22 4:12:19 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
only reliable way for vegans to get B12 is fortified foods or supplements.
incidentally, a regimen of methylcobalamin and magnesium malate cured me of fibromyalgia.

The usual cyanocobalamin is garbage. It's B12, but it's stuck to cyanide that you have to be rid of.
methylcobalamin is the actual B12 you actually need.
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Shotgunnova
09/25/22 4:14:57 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/8/AABhrNAADtf-.jpg

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pinky0926
09/25/22 4:40:47 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Wasn't this pretty obvious... since... ya know.... B12, and humans inability to make it, is pretty well known, only reliable way for vegans to get B12 is fortified foods or supplements.

Here are some of the Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency
If you have anaemia caused by a vitamin B12 deficiency, you may have other symptoms, such as:
* a pale yellow tinge to your skin
* a sore and red tongue (glossitis)
* mouth ulcers
* pins and needles (paraesthesia)
* changes in the way that you walk and move around
* disturbed vision
* irritability
* depression
* changes in the way you think, feel and behave
* a decline in your mental abilities, such as memory, understanding and judgement (dementia)

B12 is ludicrously easy to supplement, if you eat a meatless diet and you don't do this that is not a function of vegetarianism being wrong, it is that you did it wrong.

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FunkyCat
09/25/22 4:49:23 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
You guys could read the top comment but thats less fun than saying fuck vegans, right


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Imit8m3
09/25/22 5:00:14 AM
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Shotgunnova posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/8/AABhrNAADtf-.jpg
There's a special place in hell for people who try to make their pets vegan.

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rexcrk
09/25/22 6:18:13 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Wasn't this pretty obvious... since... ya know.... B12, and humans inability to make it, is pretty well known, only reliable way for vegans to get B12 is fortified foods or supplements.

Here are some of the Symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency
If you have anaemia caused by a vitamin B12 deficiency, you may have other symptoms, such as:
* a pale yellow tinge to your skin
* a sore and red tongue (glossitis)
* mouth ulcers
* pins and needles (paraesthesia)
* changes in the way that you walk and move around
* disturbed vision
* irritability
* depression
* changes in the way you think, feel and behave
* a decline in your mental abilities, such as memory, understanding and judgement (dementia)


Im actually not sure if I eat anything rich in B12 and I dont experience any of those symptoms


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DKBananaSlamma
09/25/22 6:21:10 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
You guys could read the top comment but thats less fun than saying fuck vegans, right
Damn straight!

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BlackPink462
09/25/22 6:25:36 AM
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Id rather eat a nice juicy steak
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CE_gonna_CE
09/25/22 6:31:02 AM
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Association found between shitting on vegans and having a small penis.

Source?

This post

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SergeantGander
09/25/22 6:43:49 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
B12 is ludicrously easy to supplement, if you eat a meatless diet and you don't do this that is not a function of vegetarianism being wrong, it is that you did it wrong.

While I agree, I think the general populations ability to monitor their nutrition is pretty poor.

Which has nothing to do with being a vegan, but I'd wager a large portion of vegans don't consistently take B12 supplements.

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COVxy
09/25/22 7:19:41 AM
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Diet is heavily confounded with other lifestyle factors. Really really hard to control for that.

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DespondentDeity
09/25/22 7:26:55 AM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Association found between shitting on vegans and having a small penis.

Source?

This post

Oh yeh I just read about that

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SauI_Goodman
09/25/22 7:40:59 AM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...
Association found between shitting on vegans and having a small penis.

Source?

This post
Im small / small side of average and dont shit on vegans
:(

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DespondentDeity
09/25/22 7:47:02 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Im small / small side of average and dont shit on vegans
:(

looks like you better fuckin start

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Sufferedphoneix
09/25/22 7:52:33 AM
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I'm no vegan but I'll agree we probably eat too much meat. I feel it was only meant as a small part of our diet. We got the teeth of a omnivore.

Humans are just a weird animal all around. Based on what we got physically we shouldn't be top of the food chain. Our intelligence is the only thing that allows that.

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Sad_Face
09/25/22 8:59:43 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
B12 is ludicrously easy to supplement, if you eat a meatless diet and you don't do this that is not a function of vegetarianism being wrong, it is that you did it wrong.


Any diet that doesn't provide the necessary nutrients to live a healthy life and doesn't provide any in excess to the point where it would be a detriment (to rephrase my awkward wording; not too little and not too much) says to me that the diet is inherently broken. You shouldn't need supplements to ensure your body meets the healthy living criteria if you're eating right. Not ragging on vegetarianism since coolguyjimmy brought up fortified food being among vegetarianism's only options. Just ragging on that logic of dismissing the issue with supplements.

I'll also make the distinction that this is different from something like trying to live a body builder lifestyle where you're putting on more muscle than needed for everyday life and so you'd be on a high protein diet which would require supplements to reach certain muscle mass goals.

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xXfireglzXx
09/25/22 9:01:59 AM
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I'm stoked about the 5 counterposting Lanzol topics this will spawn.

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pinky0926
09/25/22 9:12:09 AM
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SergeantGander posted...
While I agree, I think the general populations ability to monitor their nutrition is pretty poor.

Which has nothing to do with being a vegan, but I'd wager a large portion of vegans don't consistently take B12 supplements.

Thr actual nutritional requirement of b12 and basically every other nutrient is so low that most people get their needs met within the first 10% of their calories.

B12 deficiencies happen in people who are either suffering from famine or who have extreme diets. Regular vegetarians don't have this problem, and few vegans do either.

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pinky0926
09/25/22 9:14:49 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
Any diet that doesn't provide the necessary nutrients to live a healthy life and doesn't provide any in excess to the point where it would be a detriment (to rephrase my awkward wording; not too little and not too much) says to me that the diet is inherently broken. You shouldn't need supplements to ensure your body meets the healthy living criteria if you're eating right. Not ragging on vegetarianism since coolguyjimmy brought up fortified food being among vegetarianism's only options. Just ragging on that logic of dismissing the issue with supplements.

I'll also make the distinction that this is different from something like trying to live a body builder lifestyle where you're putting on more muscle than needed for everyday life and so you'd be on a high protein diet which would require supplements to reach certain muscle mass goals.


Do you partake in modern medicine?

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JuanCarlos1
09/25/22 9:38:03 AM
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Lots of people go vegan for different reasons. Some do ot for the animal cruelty and others for health reasons.

Any vegan that knows what theyre doing knows they have to get B12 from somewhere. I eat mostly plant based with animal protein every now and then. I still use nutritional yeast with is full of B12 when eating tofu and salads.

I would argue some meatless ppl are depressed due to an overwhelming awareness of their surroundings and being too empathetic.

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Cobra1010
09/25/22 9:39:38 AM
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Im no scientist and i say theres a link between sugarless diet as well. When i feel down, i just drink soda or get a mcflurry

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JuanCarlos1
09/25/22 9:41:33 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Im no scientist and i say theres a link between sugarless diet as well. When i feel down, i just drink soda or get a mcflurry


I think thats called withdrawal...

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Son_Of_Spam
09/25/22 11:12:10 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
Any diet that doesn't provide the necessary nutrients to live a healthy life and doesn't provide any in excess to the point where it would be a detriment (to rephrase my awkward wording; not too little and not too much) says to me that the diet is inherently broken. You shouldn't need supplements to ensure your body meets the healthy living criteria if you're eating right. Not ragging on vegetarianism since coolguyjimmy brought up fortified food being among vegetarianism's only options. Just ragging on that logic of dismissing the issue with supplements.

I'll also make the distinction that this is different from something like trying to live a body builder lifestyle where you're putting on more muscle than needed for everyday life and so you'd be on a high protein diet which would require supplements to reach certain muscle mass goals.
Everyone's diet relies on supplementation nowadays. Vitamin D in milk, iodine in salt, folic acid in flour. Even the B12 from the meat you eat was likely fortified in the animal's feed.

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DD_Divine
09/25/22 11:42:48 AM
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Irony
09/25/22 11:44:25 AM
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I'm less depressed after cutting out red meat. I'm assuming this study is nonsense.

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Fony
09/25/22 11:50:29 AM
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BlackPink462 posted...
https://reddit.com/r/science/comments/xn6u4q/association_between_meatless_diet_and_depression/

This association is independent of socioeconomic, lifestyle factors and nutrient deficiencies.

Eat your meat! You cant have any pudding if you dont eat your meat.

I find this dubious, despite the fact that I don't care for vegans. If there is any pattern at all, I'd bet it's more due to behavior or lifestyle that's not seen as accepted or normal causing thee depression.

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ZMythos
09/25/22 11:53:36 AM
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Vegetarians and Vegans are more likely to be conscious about societal problems and the environment. As a meat eater thinking about that shit gets me pretty fucking depressed too.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/25/22 11:54:09 AM
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Looks more like there's an association between depression and being an American.

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Irony
09/25/22 12:05:10 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Looks more like there's an association between depression and being an American.
Now this I can get behind

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DD_Divine
09/25/22 12:05:38 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Looks more like there's an association between depression and being an American.


thats a bingo

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