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TroutPaste 09/20/22 2:40:42 PM #1:	BOTW is a good game but it shouldn't be the future of the Zelda franchise . Worried they'll humor this by making spinoff games, with the b-team devs and less funding ($30 release, like the DS/3DS for consoles). Which would be good games too, I guess... Just not nearly as good I like linear games , OOT, ALttP, Wind Waker . Is my chapter of Zelda history over? What do you think CE. Is Zelda open world, for good? @Aeriis @Unclewhoworksfornintendo --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:968175218] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>BOTW is a good game but it shouldn't be the future of the Zelda franchise . Worried they'll humor this by making spinoff games, with the b-team devs and less funding ($30 release, like the DS/3DS for consoles). Which would be good games too, I guess... Just not nearly as goodI like linear games , OOT, ALttP, Wind Waker . Is my chapter of Zelda history over? What do you think CE. Is Zelda open world, for good?@Aeriis @Unclewhoworksfornintendo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/20/22 2:42:17 PM #2:	Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DX No other Zelda game hits that hard --- She left me roses by the stairs. Surprises let me know she cares. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:968175257] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DXNo other Zelda game hits that hard</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jupiter 09/20/22 2:43:01 PM #3:	I didn't like BOTW as much as other Zelda games. One of my favorite things from Zelda games was getting a new weapon/tool from a dungeon that let you do cool things. --- Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Jupiter posted [p:968175274] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I didn't like BOTW as much as other Zelda games. One of my favorite things from Zelda games was getting a new weapon/tool from a dungeon that let you do cool things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 09/20/22 2:43:24 PM #4:	I'm surprised we haven't seen other remakes reuse the Link's Awakening engine. Oracle games especially. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:968175286] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised we haven't seen other remakes reuse the Link's Awakening engine. Oracle games especially.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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11110111011 09/20/22 2:44:35 PM #6:	Damn_Underscore posted... Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DX No other Zelda game hits that hard Close. Zelda NES is still the best in the series, but Link's Awakening is #2. <cite>11110111011 posted [p:968175316] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite><quote>Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DXNo other Zelda game hits that hard</quote>Close. Zelda NES is still the best in the series, but Link's Awakening is #2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 09/20/22 2:45:32 PM #7:	I don't really think it's a big deal if Zelda develops a B team of some kind to do more traditional games. The only part that might be worrying about that is that they don't get the budget they deserve allocated to them. We don't even know a ton of details of Tears of Kingdom yet. It will be open world but it still could be more similar to OoT, TP, etc. than you might be expecting. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:968175332] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I don't really think it's a big deal if Zelda develops a B team of some kind to do more traditional games. The only part that might be worrying about that is that they don't get the budget they deserve allocated to them. We don't even know a ton of details of Tears of Kingdom yet. It will be open world but it still could be more similar to OoT, TP, etc. than you might be expecting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/20/22 2:45:49 PM #8:	11110111011 posted... Close. Zelda NES is still the best in the series, but Link's Awakening is #2. To be factual if the original LoZ wasn't a Zelda game no one would like it. Get that cryptic BS out of here --- She left me roses by the stairs. Surprises let me know she cares. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:968175335] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>11110111011 posted... </cite><quote>Close. Zelda NES is still the best in the series, but Link's Awakening is #2.</quote>To be factual if the original LoZ wasn't a Zelda game no one would like it. Get that cryptic BS out of here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 09/20/22 2:47:50 PM #9:	I love BOTW and its probably the best game in the series, but I agree I would like to a return to the og formula in some form. Its kinda like when RE4 came out. Sure its a better game, but not exactly the reason why I love the series --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:968175377] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I love BOTW and its probably the best game in the series, but I agree I would like to a return to the og formula in some form.Its kinda like when RE4 came out. Sure its a better game, but not exactly the reason why I love the series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilResident 09/20/22 2:55:59 PM #10:	ALttP is damn good but I also have nostalgia for the OG Zelda nes game --- . <cite>EvilResident posted [p:968175575] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>ALttP is damn good but I also have nostalgia for the OG Zelda nes game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 09/20/22 2:58:59 PM #11:	OoT is pretty nonlinear too. I think it really caught the perfect balance of being a forward moving narrative, but giving the player options to change it up. Nothing has quite reached that level. Majora's Mask and Wind Waker were a lot more linear, but still had a couple instances where you could mix things up. ALBW was too open in my opinion, where there was no sense of really advancing. I think BotW being open was a good call though. For that game, it was necessary, and it made it better. I would like to go back to a mix going forward. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:968175648] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>OoT is pretty nonlinear too. I think it really caught the perfect balance of being a forward moving narrative, but giving the player options to change it up. Nothing has quite reached that level. Majora's Mask and Wind Waker were a lot more linear, but still had a couple instances where you could mix things up. ALBW was too open in my opinion, where there was no sense of really advancing.I think BotW being open was a good call though. For that game, it was necessary, and it made it better. I would like to go back to a mix going forward.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azardea 09/20/22 3:05:39 PM #12:	Give me another ALBW, that one was amazing. Just keep the garbage LA remake aesthetics away from it. <cite>Azardea posted [p:968175809] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Give me another ALBW, that one was amazing. Just keep the garbage LA remake aesthetics away from it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 09/20/22 3:23:24 PM #13:	i loved botw and my time with it was amazing but idk if i have it in me to play it again lol. it consumed months of my life and i can't do that any more. it was probably the best experience since the first time i played oot as a kid in 1999. i do enjoy the more linear zeldas but they were getting bloated with way too much bullshit in tp and especially ss. i wouldn't mind a return but god they need a lot of trimming albw was amazing loved it. i wouldn't mind it being more focused though also bring tphd and 3ds oot/mm to switch you bastards --- aure entuluva http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:968176198] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>i loved botw and my time with it was amazing but idk if i have it in me to play it again lol. it consumed months of my life and i can't do that any more. it was probably the best experience since the first time i played oot as a kid in 1999. i do enjoy the more linear zeldas but they were getting bloated with way too much bullshit in tp and especially ss. i wouldn't mind a return but god they need a lot of trimmingalbw was amazing loved it. i wouldn't mind it being more focused though also bring tphd and 3ds oot/mm to switch you bastards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heartomaton 09/20/22 3:25:21 PM #14:	That's no hill, it's a manure pile. --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. <cite>Heartomaton posted [p:968176235] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>That's no hill, it's a manure pile.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TroutPaste 09/20/22 5:57:36 PM #16:	Bump --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:968179634] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 09/20/22 6:00:14 PM #17:	I like both So I reap the benefits of all of it --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:968179688] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I like bothSo I reap the benefits of all of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlCalavicci 09/20/22 6:05:00 PM #18:	Smackems posted... I like both So I reap the benefits of all of it --- http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! <cite>AlCalavicci posted [p:968179775] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite><quote>I like bothSo I reap the benefits of all of it</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Incurso91 09/20/22 6:07:30 PM #19:	I'd pay to see the third Oracle game come to light. <cite>Incurso91 posted [p:968179842] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I'd pay to see the third Oracle game come to light.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 09/20/22 11:54:23 PM #20:	Smackems posted... I like both So I reap the benefits of all of it that's true. Mostly hope they pursue both of them --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:968186959] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite><quote>I like bothSo I reap the benefits of all of it</quote>that's true. Mostly hope they pursue both of them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/21/22 12:02:08 AM #21:	I just beat the game, while the exploring was good. I do miss getting the hook shot now I can get over that pit, oh I got the fire rod now I can do this or that. And Weapons breaking fuck that. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:968187069] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I just beat the game, while the exploring was good. I do miss getting the hook shot now I can get over that pit, oh I got the fire rod now I can do this or that. And Weapons breaking fuck that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 09/21/22 12:05:05 AM #22:	Incurso91 posted... I'd pay to see the third Oracle game come to light. That would be sick. They originally thought about making 3 games at the start too. --- http://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:968187103] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Incurso91 posted... </cite><quote>I'd pay to see the third Oracle game come to light.</quote>That would be sick. They originally thought about making 3 games at the start too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Its_Time_2_Pray 09/21/22 12:05:52 AM #23:	We need King Harkinian to make another appearance. --- You can be happy. <cite>Its_Time_2_Pray posted [p:968187116] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>We need King Harkinian to make another appearance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 09/21/22 12:09:23 AM #24:	I do not get LttP love, especially loving it more than ALBW. The interactability with the world is so basic. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:968187153] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I do not get LttP love, especially loving it more than ALBW. The interactability with the world is so basic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kloe_Rinz 09/21/22 12:10:10 AM #25:	Botw with dungeons should be the future of the franchise. Thats pretty much the only negative criticism of botw <cite>Kloe_Rinz posted [p:968187169] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Botw with dungeons should be the future of the franchise. Thats pretty much the only negative criticism of botw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silverpine 09/21/22 12:10:22 AM #26:	they should absolutely move on from botw because other games have done the botw style game so much better by now. sure maybe botw2 will reinvent the genre but i doubt it. they had their success and should do something else now. <cite>silverpine posted [p:968187174] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>they should absolutely move on from botw because other games have done the botw style game so much better by now. sure maybe botw2 will reinvent the genre but i doubt it. they had their success and should do something else now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 09/21/22 12:11:37 AM #27:	silverpine posted... other games have done the botw style game so much better by now who. don't say elden ring, it's a great game but doesn't replace zelda's mechanics --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:968187194] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>silverpine posted... </cite><quote>other games have done the botw style game so much better by now</quote>who. don't say elden ring, it's a great game but doesn't replace zelda's mechanics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silverpine 09/21/22 12:15:48 AM #28:	what zelda mechanics are unique to botw? <cite>silverpine posted [p:968187253] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>what zelda mechanics are unique to botw? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 09/21/22 12:21:53 AM #29:	All I want are dungeons dungeons dungeons I wanna be balls deep in some ancient fucking ruins with esoteric puzzles and ghosts/lizards/whatever kicking my ass and shooting fireballs and shit. That feeling when you enter a room and the door closes behind you, then the sliding bars pop up and it's like "oh shit something's going to happen in here" BotW hit a lot of good notes but very few times did I ever feel like I was really in the thick of it. --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:968187331] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>All I want are dungeons dungeons dungeonsI wanna be balls deep in some ancient fucking ruins with esoteric puzzles and ghosts/lizards/whatever kicking my ass and shooting fireballs and shit. That feeling when you enter a room and the door closes behind you, then the sliding bars pop up and it's like "oh shit something's going to happen in here"BotW hit a lot of good notes but very few times did I ever feel like I was really in the thick of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 09/21/22 11:37:39 PM #30:	Kim_Seong-a posted... All I want are dungeons dungeons dungeons I wanna be balls deep in some ancient fucking ruins with esoteric puzzles and ghosts/lizards/whatever kicking my ass and shooting fireballs and shit. That feeling when you enter a room and the door closes behind you, then the sliding bars pop up and it's like "oh shit something's going to happen in here" BotW hit a lot of good notes but very few times did I ever feel like I was really in the thick of it. All the pieces for a really great dungeon were already in the game. The Divine Beasts and Shrines all had the puzzle aspect nailed down pretty well, but they were lacking in the other areas that make up a typical Zelda dungeon. Hyrule Castle had a lot of enemies to fight and allowed total freedom. It perfectly represented what BOTW was trying to be in my opinion. But it also isn't a traditional dungeon. Ideally there's a mixture of everything. Keep shrines but maybe reduce the number of them. Make a couple dungeons that have the openness of Hyrule Castle. And then throw in some more focused, linear dungeons that you'd expect of a typical Zelda game. Everyone wins. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:968209889] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>All I want are dungeons dungeons dungeonsI wanna be balls deep in some ancient fucking ruins with esoteric puzzles and ghosts/lizards/whatever kicking my ass and shooting fireballs and shit. That feeling when you enter a room and the door closes behind you, then the sliding bars pop up and it's like "oh shit something's going to happen in here"BotW hit a lot of good notes but very few times did I ever feel like I was really in the thick of it.</quote>All the pieces for a really great dungeon were already in the game. The Divine Beasts and Shrines all had the puzzle aspect nailed down pretty well, but they were lacking in the other areas that make up a typical Zelda dungeon. Hyrule Castle had a lot of enemies to fight and allowed total freedom. It perfectly represented what BOTW was trying to be in my opinion. But it also isn't a traditional dungeon.Ideally there's a mixture of everything. Keep shrines but maybe reduce the number of them. Make a couple dungeons that have the openness of Hyrule Castle. And then throw in some more focused, linear dungeons that you'd expect of a typical Zelda game. Everyone wins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 09/21/22 11:38:32 PM #31:	im literally asleep because i tried to read this --- The spell complete It is permanent <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:968209910] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>im literally asleep because i tried to read this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/21/22 11:38:33 PM #32:	Moving to 3D was the beginning of the end for Zelda --- http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:968209911] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Moving to 3D was the beginning of the end for Zelda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PiOverlord 09/21/22 11:47:42 PM #33:	As long as Zelda doesn't stay stagnant, that's all I care about. I appreciate how wildly different the art direction can be, really makes the games feel different. I think after BotW, they should go after a more-realistic approach again, though. OoT and TP attempted to do this for their times, and I'd like to see Nintendo's take on that approach again. Even if OoT may not seem like it with how much it has aged, it was trying to go for that more serious/gritty look. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 34, 500th posts: 33; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE <cite>PiOverlord posted [p:968210060] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>As long as Zelda doesn't stay stagnant, that's all I care about. I appreciate how wildly different the art direction can be, really makes the games feel different. I think after BotW, they should go after a more-realistic approach again, though. OoT and TP attempted to do this for their times, and I'd like to see Nintendo's take on that approach again. Even if OoT may not seem like it with how much it has aged, it was trying to go for that more serious/gritty look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Manta_Storm 09/21/22 11:58:20 PM #34:	Damn_Underscore posted... Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DX No other Zelda game hits that hard You are my new best friend. --- I don't recall ever fighting Godzilla, but that is so what I would've done! <cite>Manta_Storm posted [p:968210218] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite><quote>Best Zelda game ever = Link's Awakening DXNo other Zelda game hits that hard</quote>You are my new best friend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 09/22/22 5:20:29 AM #35:	Robot2600 posted... im literally asleep because i tried to read this compared to other CE topics ? BignutzisBack posted... Moving to 3D was the beginning of the end for Zelda @_@ --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:968213456] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite><quote>im literally asleep because i tried to read this</quote>compared to other CE topics ?BignutzisBack posted... </cite><quote>Moving to 3D was the beginning of the end for Zelda</quote>@_@ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenMario 09/22/22 5:42:47 AM #36:	I dunno but I admit I had a hard time getting into it as well. I messed around a lot with that thing that let you levitate platforms while on the plateau mini dungeons at the start but once they let me loose I wandered around a bit, got killed by moblins a dozen or so times, finally stumbled into Kakariko and then never touched the game again. --- Mario and his best friend Green Mario were introduced in Super Mario Bros for the NES in 1982. <cite>GreenMario posted [p:968213621] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I dunno but I admit I had a hard time getting into it as well. I messed around a lot with that thing that let you levitate platforms while on the plateau mini dungeons at the start but once they let me loose I wandered around a bit, got killed by moblins a dozen or so times, finally stumbled into Kakariko and then never touched the game again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 09/22/22 5:56:41 AM #38:	I wouldn't mind botw being the foundation for future titles much like ALttP ended up being the foundation for almost every game until botw It's a hell of a lot better than "find the three items in the forest, volcano, and water area to get the master sword" formula they did for years There should be a balance between the two though. Like bring back actual themed dungeons with unique designs, and integrate the dungeon item mechanic into the open world. I could see uses for stuff like the hookshot, grappling hook, spinner, pegasus boots, etc in traversing an open world Or make the map smaller but take cues from Majora's Mask. Lots of interactions with the NPCs and intricate side quests, maybe with a days of the week schedule type of system --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:968213739] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't mind botw being the foundation for future titles much like ALttP ended up being the foundation for almost every game until botwIt's a hell of a lot better than "find the three items in the forest, volcano, and water area to get the master sword" formula they did for yearsThere should be a balance between the two though. Like bring back actual themed dungeons with unique designs, and integrate the dungeon item mechanic into the open world. I could see uses for stuff like the hookshot, grappling hook, spinner, pegasus boots, etc in traversing an open worldOr make the map smaller but take cues from Majora's Mask. Lots of interactions with the NPCs and intricate side quests, maybe with a days of the week schedule type of system </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoDontTry 09/22/22 6:02:10 AM #39:	Uhh Majora's Mask was open world... <cite>DoDontTry posted [p:968213784] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Uhh Majora's Mask was open world...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 09/22/22 6:46:35 AM #40:	DoDontTry posted... Uhh Majora's Mask was open world... It definitely was not. You needed the bow to get to Snowhead, Epona to get to Great Bay, and the hookshot to get to Ikana. Those are gained sequentially from area to area I really enjoy its structure, but it's not open world --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:968214147] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>DoDontTry posted... </cite><quote>Uhh Majora's Mask was open world...</quote>It definitely was not. You needed the bow to get to Snowhead, Epona to get to Great Bay, and the hookshot to get to Ikana. Those are gained sequentially from area to areaI really enjoy its structure, but it's not open world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoneix 09/22/22 6:57:48 AM #41:	TroutPaste posted... BOTW is a good game but it shouldn't be the future of the Zelda franchise . Worried they'll humor this by making spinoff games, with the b-team devs and less funding ($30 release, like the DS/3DS for consoles). Which would be good games too, I guess... Just not nearly as good I like linear games , OOT, ALttP, Wind Waker . Is my chapter of Zelda history over? What do you think CE. Is Zelda open world, for good? @Aeriis @Unclewhoworksfornintendo I prefer non linear. Link between worlds had the right idea. Could use some tweaking if we want more classic zelda too. Like maybe find the items in the overworld rather than dungeons or buying them --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>Sufferedphoneix posted [p:968214230] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>TroutPaste posted... </cite><quote>BOTW is a good game but it shouldn't be the future of the Zelda franchise . Worried they'll humor this by making spinoff games, with the b-team devs and less funding ($30 release, like the DS/3DS for consoles). Which would be good games too, I guess... Just not nearly as goodI like linear games , OOT, ALttP, Wind Waker . Is my chapter of Zelda history over? What do you think CE. Is Zelda open world, for good?@Aeriis @Unclewhoworksfornintendo</quote>I prefer non linear. Link between worlds had the right idea. Could use some tweaking if we want more classic zelda too. Like maybe find the items in the overworld rather than dungeons or buying them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
buddhamonster 09/22/22 7:06:37 AM #42:	DoDontTry posted... Uhh Majora's Mask was open world... No, it has the illusion of being an open world, just like most other Zeldas before BotW. The trick is you were gated behind items that (barring glitches) you had to get sequentially, which absolutely frames the entire games path for you. Its much closer to a metroidvania style of game then an open world, where, by the end, sure the whole world is open to you and you can freely roam it, but ultimately, the path you must take to get there is almost completely linear . --- Hey Trashcan Man! What did old lady Semple say when you burned her pension check? Boston Bruins - 2011 Stanley Cup Champs! <cite>buddhamonster posted [p:968214292] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>DoDontTry posted... </cite><quote>Uhh Majora's Mask was open world...</quote>No, it has the illusion of being an open world, just like most other Zeldas before BotW. The trick is you were gated behind items that (barring glitches) you had to get sequentially, which absolutely frames the entire games path for you. Its much closer to a metroidvania style of game then an open world, where, by the end, sure the whole world is open to you and you can freely roam it, but ultimately, the path you must take to get there is almost completely linear . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 09/22/22 7:53:15 AM #43:	Linear games yuck --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:968214741] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Linear games yuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/22/22 8:32:40 AM #44:	The notion that dungeons were my least favorite part of the Zelda formula was already starting to take hold around the time of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, but BotW drove that point home with a hammer. The 'traditional' 3D Zelda dungeon is more often than not a bloated, boring headache; the bite-sized approach to puzzle-solving that Shrines brought to the table was such a welcome relief. I wouldn't turn my nose at a greater level of visual / aesthetic variety, though. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:968215209] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>The notion that dungeons were my least favorite part of the Zelda formula was already starting to take hold around the time of Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, but BotW drove that point home with a hammer. The 'traditional' 3D Zelda dungeon is more often than not a bloated, boring headache; the bite-sized approach to puzzle-solving that Shrines brought to the table was such a welcome relief. I wouldn't turn my nose at a greater level of visual / aesthetic variety, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 09/23/22 11:55:22 AM #45:	bump --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89/ Free Games Board... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:968240334] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/23/22 11:57:02 AM #46:	Damn_Underscore posted... To be factual if the original LoZ wasn't a Zelda game no one would like it. Get that cryptic BS out of here Lmfao yeah because the millions of kids who played the game when it was brand new only did it because of the established and reputable Zelda name with it's whopping zero other games in the series. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:968240361] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite><quote>To be factual if the original LoZ wasn't a Zelda game no one would like it. Get that cryptic BS out of here</quote>Lmfao yeah because the millions of kids who played the game when it was brand new only did it because of the established and reputable Zelda name with it's whopping zero other games in the series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 09/23/22 12:28:27 PM #47:	Tyranthraxus posted... Lmfao yeah because the millions of kids who played the game when it was brand new Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist <cite>GATTJT posted [p:968240894] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Lmfao yeah because the millions of kids who played the game when it was brand new</quote>Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 09/23/22 12:32:13 PM #48:	Both styles should really continue in parallel. I hate Nintendos weird style of handling games. <cite>Nemu posted [p:968240964] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>Both styles should really continue in parallel. I hate Nintendos weird style of handling games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 09/23/22 12:34:51 PM #49:	GATTJT posted... Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out? https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226035/the-legend-of-zelda/?region=All --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:968241013] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>GATTJT posted... </cite><quote>Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out?</quote>https://www.vgchartz.com/game/226035/the-legend-of-zelda/?region=All</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/23/22 12:36:01 PM #50:	GATTJT posted... Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game) Upon release in Japan, it sold 1 million copies on its first day of release,[68] and sold a total of 1.69 million for the Famicom Disk System in Japan.[69] In North America, the game was highly anticipated and topped the video game charts upon release.[24][70] It became the first NES game to sell over 1 million cartridges in the United States during 1987,[71][72][73] increasing to more than 2 million cartridges sold by 1988.[74][75][71] It went on to sell 3 million cartridges in the United States by 1990,[76] and eventually 6.51 million copies worldwide.[77] --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:968241035] in Gatekeepin... [t:80172451]...</cite> <quote>GATTJT posted... </cite><quote>Have any sales numbers to back up your claim that millions of people played it when it came out?</quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda_(video_game)Upon release in Japan, it sold 1 million copies on its first day of release,[68] and sold a total of 1.69 million for the Famicom Disk System in Japan.[69] In North America, the game was highly anticipated and topped the video game charts upon release.[24][70] It became the first NES game to sell over 1 million cartridges in the United States during 1987,[71][72][73] increasing to more than 2 million cartridges sold by 1988.[74][75][71] It went on to sell 3 million cartridges in the United States by 1990,[76] and eventually 6.51 million copies worldwide.[77]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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