Current Events > Do you think "colonizer" has become a slur for white people?

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AmericaTheBrave
09/09/22 10:54:06 AM
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It seems Twitter revels in calling any white person that, regardless if they were the descendants of colonizers or not.

This topic was inspired by somebody calling a Slav a colonizer, a people with no history of Western colonialism.

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DipDipDiver
09/09/22 10:55:55 AM
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Of course
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ElatedVenusaur
09/09/22 10:56:20 AM
#3:


LOL whaaaat? No.

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g0ldie
09/09/22 10:56:47 AM
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I blame Shuri

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CyricZ
09/09/22 11:00:04 AM
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No.

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baiken2
09/09/22 11:00:19 AM
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Admiral topic
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Were_Wyrm
09/09/22 11:00:34 AM
#7:


Nah, the only white people that care are the one's demanding to be able to use slurs themselves.

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UnfairRepresent
09/09/22 11:01:23 AM
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CyricZ posted...
No.


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MedeaLysistrata
09/09/22 11:02:05 AM
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I went through a very intense postcolonliasm phase that I'm still not entirely over.

I think the charge carries some weight but depending on your definition of racism it is not really racist because some people think racism is an expression of power and the colonized/colonizer relationship doesn't really reflect that.

I don't think it's fair to just label all white people that given what you say about it being applied to Slavic people, or even white people who might have a history of colonialism since it is out of their control... But the neocolonial legacy continues to benefit and impoverish people all over the world. So it's a real force but I don't think it's something that applies to individual people, it's structural.

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gunplagirl
09/09/22 11:02:52 AM
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No

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/09/22 11:07:32 AM
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"White people" itself is a term that was made up in order to differentiate the colonizers from the colonized. Sort of an anti-slur.

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SamHide
09/09/22 11:07:44 AM
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Larry David and Ben Affleck are descended from slave owners.
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s0nicfan
09/09/22 11:17:43 AM
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Some people very obviously use it as a slur, sure.

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DeathDeathSong
09/09/22 11:19:01 AM
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wont somebody think of the white people

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/09/22 11:21:27 AM
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i legit lmao'ed when i heard the phrase "silence colonizer!" the first time i saw Black Panther. and im white btw.
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SamHide
09/09/22 11:24:06 AM
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MabusIncarnate
09/09/22 11:25:43 AM
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DeathDeathSong posted...
wont somebody think of the white people


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Suolevram
09/09/22 11:38:17 AM
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As a white male, it has zero effect on me. Say it all you want.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
09/09/22 11:39:12 AM
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I do not see it as an insult, more like whoever says it is mad about the past and that is when you just laugh at them.

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ScazarMeltex
09/09/22 11:43:40 AM
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
I do not see it as an insult, more like whoever says it is mad about the past and that is when you just laugh at them.
"Ha I can't believe you are still mad about the fact that someone perpetrated monstrous crimes against your people that still have long lasting on your people, culture, land, and economy to this day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A LOSER, GET A LOAD OF THIS LOSER EVERYBODY"

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
09/09/22 11:44:34 AM
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Never heard of it

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Geist_des_Durcheinan
09/09/22 11:44:53 AM
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I've never heard of this but also who gives a ****. It's just words.

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HANGtheDJ_86
09/09/22 11:45:09 AM
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Too many syllables

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itachi15243
09/09/22 11:45:51 AM
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If it has its already a stupid one.

Imperialism was you know, a huge fucking part of history. Even today (literally as you read this) people are fighting over land.

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rivers
09/09/22 11:46:03 AM
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idc what ppl call me

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FaultyCircuitry
09/09/22 11:46:14 AM
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No.

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averagejoel
09/09/22 11:49:45 AM
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obviously not

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EndOfDiscOne
09/09/22 11:56:45 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
"Ha I can't believe you are still mad about the fact that someone perpetrated monstrous crimes against your people that still have long lasting on your people, culture, land, and economy to this day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A LOSER, GET A LOAD OF THIS LOSER EVERYBODY"
you seem upset

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MedeaLysistrata
09/09/22 11:59:10 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
you seem upset
It's worth being upset about though

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doomcrusader
09/09/22 12:06:54 PM
#30:


This is the first time I've heard about this "insult".

Yeah, my ancestors were colonists. Looking for a better life isn't a bad thing nor was it something that has anything to do with people living in 2022.

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Nemu
09/09/22 12:10:39 PM
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The people who unironically use it definitely mean it as such, but it's nothing that needs to be at all taken seriously. It's just more of an indicator of who is LARPing as an activist online.
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Ricemills
09/09/22 12:11:59 PM
#32:


lmao that word is still too "nice" to be a slur.
i'd use invader or enslaver instead of colonizer.

unless if it's colon-izer instead of colonize-er, that would be proper insult.


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NoxObscuras
09/09/22 12:14:48 PM
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Never heard it before this topic. Sounds like the internet making something out of nothing.

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FaultyCircuitry
09/09/22 12:17:45 PM
#35:


doomcrusader posted...
This is the first time I've heard about this "insult".

Yeah, my ancestors were colonists. Looking for a better life isn't a bad thing nor was it something that has anything to do with people living in 2022.

It is explicitly a bad thing when your ancestors raped native people, when they committed genocide, when they forced their own culture on the people whose lands they stole.

It does have a lot to do with people today. People still suffer from the horrors of it and the people whose ancestors did the colonization benefit from those horrors.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/09/22 12:20:31 PM
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doomcrusader posted...
This is the first time I've heard about this "insult".

Yeah, my ancestors were colonists. Looking for a better life isn't a bad thing nor was it something that has anything to do with people living in 2022.
They weren't looking for a better life, they were taking life from others in order to perpetuate their own shitty culture and values. They also do continue to do that to this day.

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Ikzai
09/09/22 12:21:08 PM
#37:


Twitter is so far off its rocker nothing they say will ever catch on to become demeaning to anyone.

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hockeybub89
09/09/22 12:25:17 PM
#38:


I don't think so, Tim

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Funkydog
09/09/22 12:33:25 PM
#39:


lmao, no.

Anyone says otherwise is telling on themselves.

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E_S_M_Z
09/09/22 12:39:18 PM
#40:


Depends, I guess. Do people use it to refer to Mongolians?

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mario2000
09/09/22 12:39:18 PM
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No.

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Alteres
09/09/22 12:43:49 PM
#42:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
It is explicitly a bad thing when your ancestors raped native people, when they committed genocide, when they forced their own culture on the people whose lands they stole.

It does have a lot to do with people today. People still suffer from the horrors of it and the people whose ancestors did the colonization benefit from those horrors.
You should feel awful your ancestors did that then

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R1masher
09/09/22 12:45:06 PM
#43:


never been called that, but if I am Ill retaliate with something I deem appropriate

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Zombified_Toast
09/09/22 1:07:33 PM
#44:


To be honest, if I ever saw anyone say it unironically, I'd take it as a sign that there's not really anything to gain from engaging cause that person is clearly off the deep end.

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dave_is_slick
09/09/22 1:14:34 PM
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It quite obviously has. The only dumbasses who say it isn't are those same dumbasses who say you can't be racist to white people.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/09/22 1:23:12 PM
#47:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

One of the perks of identifying as a colonizer is that the most offense you can ever take, slur-wise, is at being called a colonizer or other various C-words.

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Vicious_Dios
09/09/22 1:26:42 PM
#48:


Oh.. it's a slur alright, but

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silverpine
09/09/22 1:27:31 PM
#49:


theres a legitimate meaning but yeah it's also a slur
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ellis123
09/09/22 1:30:29 PM
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It is a slur for white people if non-white people implicitly have never colonized.

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