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tripleh213 08/30/22 11:39:07 PM #101:	That movie was garbage --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:967690729] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>That movie was garbage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/30/22 11:39:18 PM #102:	id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one things in fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967690732] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one thingsin fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 08/30/22 11:41:52 PM #103:	DarkBuster22904 posted... And it's ridiculous. That's how soldiers end up guarding Auschwitz, or getting slaughtered with Custer at Little Bighorn. "Blindly follow immoral or suicidal orders" is ridiculous. Pulling rank is far and away the absolute worst style of leadership in existence. it's even more ridiculous that you're comparing this to Auschwitz, since the rebels are not ordered to do some atrocity. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:967690767] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>And it's ridiculous. That's how soldiers end up guarding Auschwitz, or getting slaughtered with Custer at Little Bighorn."Blindly follow immoral or suicidal orders" is ridiculous. Pulling rank is far and away the absolute worst style of leadership in existence.</quote>it's even more ridiculous that you're comparing this to Auschwitz, since the rebels are not ordered to do some atrocity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/30/22 11:47:58 PM #104:	Ricemills posted... it's even more ridiculous that you're comparing this to Auschwitz, since the rebels are not ordered to do some atrocity. I'll concede that that one went too far. However, I stand by my point. I don't know if you're familiar with the Clone Wars series, or the Bad Batch series, but "Good soldiers follow orders" has straight up become a recurring tagline showcasing how awful that mentality is. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967690844] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>it's even more ridiculous that you're comparing this to Auschwitz, since the rebels are not ordered to do some atrocity.</quote>I'll concede that that one went too far.However, I stand by my point. I don't know if you're familiar with the Clone Wars series, or the Bad Batch series, but "Good soldiers follow orders" has straight up become a recurring tagline showcasing how awful that mentality is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/30/22 11:50:21 PM #105:	DarkBuster22904 posted... I'll concede that that one went too far. However, I stand by my point. I don't know if you're familiar with the Clone Wars series, or the Bad Batch series, but "Good soldiers follow orders" has straight up become a recurring tagline showcasing how awful that mentality is. yes but you are taking things out of context anakin did not follow orders and sure he was the big hero but plenty of times he got good soldiers killed by doing this your over simplifying a complicated thing what if luke decided to ignore orders on the death star run and chase after vader would that be a good thing? --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967690879] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>I'll concede that that one went too far.However, I stand by my point. I don't know if you're familiar with the Clone Wars series, or the Bad Batch series, but "Good soldiers follow orders" has straight up become a recurring tagline showcasing how awful that mentality is.</quote>yes but you are taking things out of context anakin did not follow orders and sure he was the big hero but plenty of times he got good soldiers killed by doing this your over simplifying a complicated thing what if luke decided to ignore orders on the death star run and chase after vader would that be a good thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/30/22 11:53:15 PM #106:	AceMos posted... id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one things in fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated Name once. Because the only one that comes to mind for me was Rogue One, where the rebellion secretly gave Cassian a kill order for Jyn's dad. And... yeah, that wasn't portrayed to be good, either. Nor was the rebellion high cmand shown to be in the right when they gave Jyn the order to roll over and die, before she "rebelled" for the battle of scarif. and I suppose during the Clone wars, the jedi and clones alike were very big on the whole :follow orders, we don't need to explain ourselves" approach. And look what happened to the careers of all in sundry. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967690923] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one thingsin fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated</quote>Name once.Because the only one that comes to mind for me was Rogue One, where the rebellion secretly gave Cassian a kill order for Jyn's dad. And... yeah, that wasn't portrayed to be good, either. Nor was the rebellion high cmand shown to be in the right when they gave Jyn the order to roll over and die, before she "rebelled" for the battle of scarif.and I suppose during the Clone wars, the jedi and clones alike were very big on the whole :follow orders, we don't need to explain ourselves" approach. And look what happened to the careers of all in sundry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/30/22 11:56:05 PM #107:	DarkBuster22904 posted... Name once. the entire rebels tv series rebel leaders are given only need to know information hell hera did not even tell her own crew things --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967690958] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>Name once.</quote>the entire rebels tv seriesrebel leaders are given only need to know information hell hera did not even tell her own crew things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/30/22 11:58:03 PM #108:	AceMos posted... id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one things in fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated This is different from just not telling people something. She acted as if there was no plan. If she was like this is need to know and you are not need to know. That would have made things so much better. Because it would have shown that Poe has an issue with not being in control and can't follow order ect. What we got was a commander wearing a gala gown with purple hair, talking about the Sun and Hope while people died. note I bring up what she is wearing because she literally would fit in with the bad guys in the hunger games. Who acted as if they were above everyone and watched people die. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:967690993] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>id like to remind ppl that even in the OT the rebellion had plans and did not tell every one thingsin fact the rebellion keeping secrets even from each other was how they operated</quote>This is different from just not telling people something. She acted as if there was no plan. If she was like this is need to know and you are not need to know. That would have made things so much better. Because it would have shown that Poe has an issue with not being in control and can't follow order ect. What we got was a commander wearing a gala gown with purple hair, talking about the Sun and Hope while people died. note I bring up what she is wearing because she literally would fit in with the bad guys in the hunger games. Who acted as if they were above everyone and watched people die. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/31/22 12:00:10 AM #109:	Quartermuncher posted... Attack of the Clones completely styles on TLJ where it counts. TLJ has cinematography while AotC has characters, script, worldbuilding, and being a far better movie than TLJ. Imagine writing this out and not being too embarassed to post it. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:967691026] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Quartermuncher posted... </cite><quote>Attack of the Clones completely styles on TLJ where it counts. TLJ has cinematography while AotC has characters, script, worldbuilding, and being a far better movie than TLJ.</quote>Imagine writing this out and not being too embarassed to post it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/31/22 12:00:17 AM #110:	AceMos posted... yes but you are taking things out of context anakin did not follow orders and sure he was the big hero but plenty of times he got good soldiers killed by doing this your over simplifying a complicated thing what if luke decided to ignore orders on the death star run and chase after vader would that be a good thing? I'm not saying that every order should be ignored, or that authority figures should inherrently be distrusted. Blind distrust is no different than blind trust. The series always about not blindly rushing at things. Anakin gets plenty of blowback when he gets people killed. Ahsoka has an entire arc dedicated to ignoring orders just to puff her own ego. It's not about obedience or disobedience. It's about being smart AND wise. Good orders always have a good reason to be followed. Holdo gets blowback because she gives characters nothing to consider. Every scrap of evidence shows that they're all going to die, and when they do, the resistance dies with them. In the face of literally dying in vain, she doesn't inspire them, doesn't give them anything to rally behind, gives them no hope, gives them no reason to trust her, and tells them all to fuck off. It's poor leadership. It's not like Poe was alone; like 3 people on the whole ship stood with her. Yhe ENTIRE rest of the ship helped with Poe's mutiny. The bridge crew in the same room with her for the whole movie turned on her. Any way you slice it, she did a piss poor job getting her crew to trust her, or believe she had their best interests at heart. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967691029] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>yes but you are taking things out of context anakin did not follow orders and sure he was the big hero but plenty of times he got good soldiers killed by doing this your over simplifying a complicated thing what if luke decided to ignore orders on the death star run and chase after vader would that be a good thing?</quote>I'm not saying that every order should be ignored, or that authority figures should inherrently be distrusted. Blind distrust is no different than blind trust.The series always about not blindly rushing at things. Anakin gets plenty of blowback when he gets people killed. Ahsoka has an entire arc dedicated to ignoring orders just to puff her own ego. It's not about obedience or disobedience. It's about being smart AND wise. Good orders always have a good reason to be followed.Holdo gets blowback because she gives characters nothing to consider. Every scrap of evidence shows that they're all going to die, and when they do, the resistance dies with them. In the face of literally dying in vain, she doesn't inspire them, doesn't give them anything to rally behind, gives them no hope, gives them no reason to trust her, and tells them all to fuck off. It's poor leadership. It's not like Poe was alone; like 3 people on the whole ship stood with her. Yhe ENTIRE rest of the ship helped with Poe's mutiny. The bridge crew in the same room with her for the whole movie turned on her. Any way you slice it, she did a piss poor job getting her crew to trust her, or believe she had their best interests at heart.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:03:46 AM #111:	cjsdowg posted... This is different from just not telling people something. She acted as if there was no plan. If she was like this is need to know and you are not need to know. That would have made things so much better. Because it would have shown that Poe has an issue with not being in control and can't follow order ect. What we got was a commander wearing a gala gown with purple hair, talking about the Sun and Hope while people died. note I bring up what she is wearing because she literally would fit in with the bad guys in the hunger games. Who acted as if they were above everyone and watched people die. lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander (also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orders wants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691070] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>This is different from just not telling people something. She acted as if there was no plan. If she was like this is need to know and you are not need to know. That would have made things so much better. Because it would have shown that Poe has an issue with not being in control and can't follow order ect. What we got was a commander wearing a gala gown with purple hair, talking about the Sun and Hope while people died. note I bring up what she is wearing because she literally would fit in with the bad guys in the hunger games. Who acted as if they were above everyone and watched people die.</quote>lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander(also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orderswants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/31/22 12:04:02 AM #112:	AceMos posted... the entire rebels tv series rebel leaders are given only need to know information hell hera did not even tell her own crew things And every single time, they do the "omg, how can we trust you if you don't trust us" arc. Every single time. And the secret keeper ends up apologizing. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967691072] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>the entire rebels tv seriesrebel leaders are given only need to know information hell hera did not even tell her own crew things</quote>And every single time, they do the "omg, how can we trust you if you don't trust us" arc. Every single time. And the secret keeper ends up apologizing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:06:11 AM #113:	DarkBuster22904 posted... And every single time, they do the "omg, how can we trust you if you don't trust us" arc. Every single time. And the secret keeper ends up apologizing. yes but its how rebellions operate even in RL im not saying secrets are morally right but they are still needed in war --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691099] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>And every single time, they do the "omg, how can we trust you if you don't trust us" arc. Every single time. And the secret keeper ends up apologizing.</quote>yes but its how rebellions operate even in RL im not saying secrets are morally right but they are still needed in war </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/31/22 12:07:06 AM #114:	AceMos posted... lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander (also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orders wants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has If it was just Poe, it would be one thing. It's not. The ENTIRE ship gets behind Poe. Her own bridge crew, who have been in the same room with her while she was organizing everything, gets behind Poe. Her ENTIRE crew thought they were all about to die, pointlessly, without even trying to save themselves. Even divorced from Poe, she was a bad leader. You're commanding people in a hopeless situation; if nothing else, you need them to fucking trust you. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967691114] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander(also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orderswants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has</quote>If it was just Poe, it would be one thing.It's not. The ENTIRE ship gets behind Poe. Her own bridge crew, who have been in the same room with her while she was organizing everything, gets behind Poe. Her ENTIRE crew thought they were all about to die, pointlessly, without even trying to save themselves.Even divorced from Poe, she was a bad leader. You're commanding people in a hopeless situation; if nothing else, you need them to fucking trust you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 08/31/22 12:08:27 AM #115:	People still trying to defend TLJ's shitty writing is hilarious. Just say you like it because it entertained you and move on, you don't have to try to justify the blatant stupidity lmao. I feel like it wouldn't have as many defenders if the loudest idiots who criticized the movie weren't a bunch of psychotic anti-SJW types who suck dick at actual critical analysis of storytelling and made a big deal to completely detract from said shitty storytelling in lieu of complaining about irrelevant shit cuz "purple hair1!11!". People are so fucking annoying. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:967691132] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>People still trying to defend TLJ's shitty writing is hilarious. Just say you like it because it entertained you and move on, you don't have to try to justify the blatant stupidity lmao. I feel like it wouldn't have as many defenders if the loudest idiots who criticized the movie weren't a bunch of psychotic anti-SJW types who suck dick at actual critical analysis of storytelling and made a big deal to completely detract from said shitty storytelling in lieu of complaining about irrelevant shit cuz "purple hair1!11!".People are so fucking annoying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:09:18 AM #116:	Ving_Rhames posted... People still trying to defend TLJ's shitty writing is hilarious. Just say you like it because it entertained you and move on, you don't have to try to justify the blatant stupidity lmao or maybe ppl have different opinions than you --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691146] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite><quote>People still trying to defend TLJ's shitty writing is hilarious. Just say you like it because it entertained you and move on, you don't have to try to justify the blatant stupidity lmao</quote>or maybe ppl have different opinions than you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:11:46 AM #117:	i legit love this movie i love how it deconstructs the notions of star wars going against what is expected NOT giving fans the movie they wanted similar to what lucas him self once did with the OT i liked that we saw luke not as a over powered bad ass but a broken man who gave everything for peace and all it got him was dead students but even still no matter how hard he tried he could not throw away the hero he is he still stepped up and saved the day the mesage was clear hope cant ever truly be killed --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691175] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>i legit love this movie i love how it deconstructs the notions of star wars going against what is expected NOT giving fans the movie they wanted similar to what lucas him self once did with the OTi liked that we saw luke not as a over powered bad ass but a broken man who gave everything for peace and all it got him was dead students but even still no matter how hard he tried he could not throw away the hero he is he still stepped up and saved the day the mesage was clear hope cant ever truly be killed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/31/22 12:11:59 AM #118:	I don't think the Holdo plot was handled very well, but I don't understand championing Poe just running around and doing as he pleases because he doesn't understand the machinations of his superiors. Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:967691180] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the Holdo plot was handled very well, but I don't understand championing Poe just running around and doing as he pleases because he doesn't understand the machinations of his superiors. Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/31/22 12:12:22 AM #119:	AceMos posted... lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander (also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orders wants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has. Not telling half the crew that a plan existed, is literally worst.It is better that he knows a plan is a there. Because if not he just watch people get blown up for no reason at all. She isn't Alexander. So there is no plan, people are dying, and we are down to 250 people. Yeah that is not good. Also a spy? This dude literally just blew up their Super weapon and a dreadnought. Also NOT giving fans the movie they wanted He can literally make his own space movie that is not Star Wars. If he didn't want to give the fans Star Wars . --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:967691191] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>lets look at things from HER perspective a soldier with a known history of disobeying order some one who just that day got chewed out by the suprem commander(also wasnt he thrown int he brig i forget) a soldier who was DEMOTED that very day for his dis obeying orderswants you to give him information when the only plan is so specific it has no margin of error would you tellt his soldier who for as she knows HE could be a spy (and dont try to counter this with our out of universe knowledge of the guy) or he could fuck up the plan by grabbing a star ship and charging off for another shot at being the big hero like he so desperately wants to be even telling him you have a plan could mess up this nigh impossible to work plan she has.</quote>Not telling half the crew that a plan existed, is literally worst.It is better that he knows a plan is a there. Because if not he just watch people get blown up for no reason at all. She isn't Alexander. So there is no plan, people are dying, and we are down to 250 people. Yeah that is not good. Also a spy? This dude literally just blew up their Super weapon and a dreadnought. Also <quote>NOT giving fans the movie they wanted</quote>He can literally make his own space movie that is not Star Wars. If he didn't want to give the fans Star Wars .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 08/31/22 12:13:44 AM #120:	Ving_Rhames posted... People still trying to defend TLJ's s*ty writing is hilarious. I'm really glad I understood the movie meant for ten year olds and thus don't have any problems with its writing. --- Yo, man. Don't eat those. :( <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:967691207] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite><quote>People still trying to defend TLJ's s*ty writing is hilarious.</quote>I'm really glad I understood the movie meant for ten year olds and thus don't have any problems with its writing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:18:23 AM #121:	reminder ppl hated the PT when those where new but when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became loved what do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adults me the only film i find out right bad is phantom menace i also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691279] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>reminder ppl hated the PT when those where newbut when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became lovedwhat do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adults me the only film i find out right bad is phantom menace i also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/31/22 12:18:52 AM #122:	cjsdowg posted... He can literally make his own space movie that is not Star Wars. If he didn't want to give the fans Star Wars . The mentality that franchises should never challenge their audience is pretty dismissive of that franchise as anything deeper than something to throw on the tv while you munch popcorn or masturbate furiously. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:967691287] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>He can literally make his own space movie that is not Star Wars. If he didn't want to give the fans Star Wars .</quote>The mentality that franchises should never challenge their audience is pretty dismissive of that franchise as anything deeper than something to throw on the tv while you munch popcorn or masturbate furiously.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 12:19:41 AM #123:	DeadBankerDream posted... The mentality that franchises should never challenge their audience is pretty dismissive of that franchise as anything deeper than something to throw on the tv while you munch popcorn or masturbate furiously. hell it goes against the very ideals lucas made them with he defied the conventional rules of the time --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967691303] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>The mentality that franchises should never challenge their audience is pretty dismissive of that franchise as anything deeper than something to throw on the tv while you munch popcorn or masturbate furiously.</quote>hell it goes against the very ideals lucas made them withhe defied the conventional rules of the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/31/22 12:21:56 AM #124:	DeadBankerDream posted... I don't think the Holdo plot was handled very well, but I don't understand championing Poe just running around and doing as he pleases because he doesn't understand the machinations of his superiors. Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by. If anything that just confuses the message even more. Poe is demoted because he ignored the best interests of the Resistance, pulled rank on the bombing fleet, ordered them into a suicide mission, which they blindly obeyed, and pointlessly sacrificed the entire bombing fleet. Holdo meanwhile, steps up, orders the entire crew into a suicide mission, wantonly pulls rank, demands they blindly obey, appears to ignore the best interests of the remaining Resistance, and (ad best Poe can see) pointlessly sacrifices two out of three Resistance flagships. Outside of not blindly following orders, it almost reads like the opening fight was a lesson well learned. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967691329] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>I don't think the Holdo plot was handled very well, but I don't understand championing Poe just running around and doing as he pleases because he doesn't understand the machinations of his superiors. Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by.</quote>If anything that just confuses the message even more.Poe is demoted because he ignored the best interests of the Resistance, pulled rank on the bombing fleet, ordered them into a suicide mission, which they blindly obeyed, and pointlessly sacrificed the entire bombing fleet.Holdo meanwhile, steps up, orders the entire crew into a suicide mission, wantonly pulls rank, demands they blindly obey, appears to ignore the best interests of the remaining Resistance, and (ad best Poe can see) pointlessly sacrifices two out of three Resistance flagships.Outside of not blindly following orders, it almost reads like the opening fight was a lesson well learned.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/31/22 12:25:55 AM #125:	I think that's a very weird reading you made up just now to try to make it in line with your position. The job of a commander is to have an overview of a chaotic situation that the individual soldier might not have. Poe didn't understand the situation, his commanding officer did. Poe's ego didn't accept that and he ruined the rebellion. Then that story repeats itself with the Holdo arc. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:967691380] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>I think that's a very weird reading you made up just now to try to make it in line with your position. The job of a commander is to have an overview of a chaotic situation that the individual soldier might not have. Poe didn't understand the situation, his commanding officer did. Poe's ego didn't accept that and he ruined the rebellion.Then that story repeats itself with the Holdo arc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/31/22 12:32:41 AM #126:	Also how did ~~the slave kids that Rose and Finn left behind know what Luke did. The only people who saw the fight was the FO. And from there POV he either just telelported away some how or were turn into dust.~~ ~~So the FO killed Luke and 90% of the Rebels. That is not hopeful. That is a major V from the bad guys.~~ --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:967691486] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Also how did the slave kids that Rose and Finn left behind know what Luke did. The only people who saw the fight was the FO. And from there POV he either just telelported away some how or were turn into dust. So the FO killed Luke and 90% of the Rebels. That is not hopeful. That is a major V from the bad guys. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/31/22 12:40:19 AM #127:	AceMos posted... reminder ppl hated the PT when those where new but when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became loved what do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adults me the only film i find out right bad is phantom menace i also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless depends on the perspective. I liked seeing Hans story whereas I felt nothing at all for 7 or 8 and never watched 9 cause 8 made it very clear the franchise was going in a direction I found boring and trite. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:967691599] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>reminder ppl hated the PT when those where newbut when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became lovedwhat do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adults me the only film i find out right bad is phantom menace i also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless</quote>depends on the perspective. I liked seeing Hans story whereas I felt nothing at all for 7 or 8 and never watched 9 cause 8 made it very clear the franchise was going in a direction I found boring and trite.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_Force 08/31/22 1:12:01 AM #128:	Just a reminder: Poe was demoted after saving what little crew is left. Had he not been "hotheaded" and others not sacrificed their lives, they would ALL be dead. He shouldn't have been demoted, he should have been promoted. Another reminder: They weren't rebels (maybe resistance) but RJ doesn't know and clearly didn't care either way. Another reminder: The empire had fallen, there were a few decades of new order (not the bad guys), and yet apparently we still had planets with child slavery (which was nonsensically introduced by RJ obviously). So either the good guys suck with cracking down on slavery or they were OK with it. Just throwing that out there. There's more I'd like to point out but not right now... --- More Bush on Obama's Clinton! What the hell does "should of" mean? <cite>Delta_Force posted [p:967692023] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Just a reminder: Poe was demoted after saving what little crew is left. Had he not been "hotheaded" and others not sacrificed their lives, they would ALL be dead. He shouldn't have been demoted, he should have been promoted. Another reminder: They weren't rebels (maybe resistance) but RJ doesn't know and clearly didn't care either way.Another reminder: The empire had fallen, there were a few decades of new order (not the bad guys), and yet apparently we still had planets with child slavery (which was nonsensically introduced by RJ obviously). So either the good guys suck with cracking down on slavery or they were OK with it.Just throwing that out there. There's more I'd like to point out but not right now...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 08/31/22 1:20:14 AM #129:	Delta_Force posted... So either the good guys suck with cracking down on slavery or they were OK with it. I love ragging on TLJ, but this I'll go to bat for. Regime changes after s Civil war are a hell of a thing, even for small countries. It takes a hell of a lot of political and military weight to bring everything together. And the Empire/Republic was huge. Coruscant's population alone is in the trillions (no joke), and there are millions of inhabited planets. The New Republic didn't have the empire's infrastructure. They didn't have the military might. They didn't have the numbers. And even if they did, again, MILLIONS of planets to bring to heel. This while trying to maintain that they are not a military dictatorship like the Empire was. Even if child slavery was the tip top of their priority list, and they had specialized task forces dedicated to squashing it out, it's unrealistic to expect them to have it totally crushed. It's a hell of a big thing they're dealing with. It's easy to forget the sheer scale of the Star Wars universe sometimes, with how much story takes place on like 5 planets. The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:967692107] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Delta_Force posted... </cite><quote>So either the good guys suck with cracking down on slavery or they were OK with it.</quote>I love ragging on TLJ, but this I'll go to bat for.Regime changes after s Civil war are a hell of a thing, even for small countries. It takes a hell of a lot of political and military weight to bring everything together. And the Empire/Republic was huge. Coruscant's population alone is in the trillions (no joke), and there are millions of inhabited planets. The New Republic didn't have the empire's infrastructure. They didn't have the military might. They didn't have the numbers. And even if they did, again, MILLIONS of planets to bring to heel. This while trying to maintain that they are not a military dictatorship like the Empire was.Even if child slavery was the tip top of their priority list, and they had specialized task forces dedicated to squashing it out, it's unrealistic to expect them to have it totally crushed. It's a hell of a big thing they're dealing with. It's easy to forget the sheer scale of the Star Wars universe sometimes, with how much story takes place on like 5 planets.The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 08/31/22 1:32:27 AM #130:	I just remembered the movie opened with a "your mom" joke. If it wasn't for Jar Jar Bink's antics in Episode 1, The Last Jedi would be the runaway contender for worst humor in the series easily. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:967692223] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>I just remembered the movie opened with a "your mom" joke. If it wasn't for Jar Jar Bink's antics in Episode 1, The Last Jedi would be the runaway contender for worst humor in the series easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 08/31/22 1:34:02 AM #131:	It was a bad movie, and he should feel bad. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:967692237] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>It was a bad movie, and he should feel bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AtelierGaming86 08/31/22 2:01:44 AM #132:	Lmfao --- Now Playing: Atelier Firis / Atelier Sophie 2 <cite>AtelierGaming86 posted [p:967692503] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nexigrams 08/31/22 2:28:27 AM #133:	I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years." He's like just now starting to get jobs again. A better look when be to not say anything at all, but I'm assuming he was asked a question, and didn't call a press conference to randomly announce that he loves the movie EVEN MORE than he did in 2017. --- http://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:967692770] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years."He's like just now starting to get jobs again. A better look when be to not say anything at all, but I'm assuming he was asked a question, and didn't call a press conference to randomly announce that he loves the movie EVEN MORE than he did in 2017.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 2:41:45 AM #134:	nexigrams posted... I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years." star wars is still going strong thoe and he is even getting his own trillogy --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967692894] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>nexigrams posted... </cite><quote>I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years."</quote>star wars is still going strong thoeand he is even getting his own trillogy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zhangliao1 08/31/22 2:48:32 AM #135:	DarkBuster22904 posted... The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic. That bugged me a lot but let's be real we know the real reason was nostalgia so leia would be in exactly the same position she was in the original trilogy --- "There are many children's books that teach morals, but I don't go around worshipping mother goose." - Dynalo <cite>zhangliao1 posted [p:967692947] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic.</quote>That bugged me a lot but let's be real we know the real reason was nostalgia so leia would be in exactly the same position she was in the original trilogy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quartermuncher 08/31/22 2:53:39 AM #136:	DeadBankerDream posted... Imagine writing this out and not being too embarassed to post it. There are people with diarrhea level takes in here already with people calling flaming cinematic garbage "one of the best star wars movies" when it cant even be better than the Holiday Special, let alone AotC. Theres nothing embarrassing about that in comparison. AceMos posted... reminder ppl hated the PT when those where new but when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became loved what do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adults me the only film i find out right bad is phantom menace i also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless Theyll still hate on it. You cant redeem a film trilogy when the core content is pure unmitigated ass. Prequels were fleshed out with clone wars but were still ok with just George Lucas. The sequel trilogy is too vapid for any substance. --- There's only one way to end this! *Bunka! Junka! Shakalaka BAM!* <cite>Quartermuncher posted [p:967692985] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>Imagine writing this out and not being too embarassed to post it.</quote>There are people with diarrhea level takes in here already with people calling flaming cinematic garbage "one of the best star wars movies" when it cant even be better than the Holiday Special, let alone AotC. Theres nothing embarrassing about that in comparison.AceMos posted... </cite><quote>reminder ppl hated the PT when those where newbut when the kids who grew up with those became adults the films became lovedwhat do you think will happen when the kids who grew up with the ST are adultsme the only film i find out right bad is phantom menacei also dont care for solo but thats because the film is just pointless</quote>Theyll still hate on it. You cant redeem a film trilogy when the core content is pure unmitigated ass. Prequels were fleshed out with clone wars but were still ok with just George Lucas. The sequel trilogy is too vapid for any substance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 08/31/22 3:07:40 AM #137:	The one who posted the most embarassing post in the topic would be the one to not think there was anything embarassing about it. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:967693120] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>The one who posted the most embarassing post in the topic would be the one to not think there was anything embarassing about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 08/31/22 3:25:26 AM #138:	cjsdowg posted... Also how did the slave kids that Rose and Finn left behind know what Luke did. The only people who saw the fight was the FO. And from there POV he either just telelported away some how or were turn into dust. It's not important for them to see exactly what happened, but plenty of people saw Luke show up, walk out that door, and face down an army without fear. Those who got away know that they got away because of what he did. The people's imagination and the legendary reputation of Luke Skywalker can fill in the gaps. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:967693266] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite><quote>Also how did the slave kids that Rose and Finn left behind know what Luke did. The only people who saw the fight was the FO. And from there POV he either just telelported away some how or were turn into dust.</quote>It's not important for them to see exactly what happened, but plenty of people saw Luke show up, walk out that door, and face down an army without fear. Those who got away know that they got away because of what he did. The people's imagination and the legendary reputation of Luke Skywalker can fill in the gaps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delta_Force 08/31/22 3:38:04 AM #139:	DarkBuster22904 posted... I love ragging on TLJ, but this I'll go to bat for. Regime changes after s Civil war are a hell of a thing, even for small countries. It takes a hell of a lot of political and military weight to bring everything together. And the Empire/Republic was huge. Coruscant's population alone is in the trillions (no joke), and there are millions of inhabited planets. The New Republic didn't have the empire's infrastructure. They didn't have the military might. They didn't have the numbers. And even if they did, again, MILLIONS of planets to bring to heel. This while trying to maintain that they are not a military dictatorship like the Empire was. Even if child slavery was the tip top of their priority list, and they had specialized task forces dedicated to squashing it out, it's unrealistic to expect them to have it totally crushed. It's a hell of a big thing they're dealing with. It's easy to forget the sheer scale of the Star Wars universe sometimes, with how much story takes place on like 5 planets. The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic. Keep in mind that they have space travel though, what can take us 100's or thousands of years doesn't necessarily have to take them that long, "space-bullshit" to the rescue! But most importantly it was an unnecessary plot that was thrown in for the sake of it. It also wasn't in some backwater planet that nobody has heard of, apparently both the "good guys" and the bad guys made plenty of deals there. I'm fine with the deals being made but nobody noticing shit? I mean the kids had to have had parents at some point. Same thing goes for the children being abducted and brainwashed to join the first order. We probably didn't see the full scope of their infantry but that is a massive amount of "missing" kids, even if we assume that only 10% of them were taken as children. --- More Bush on Obama's Clinton! What the hell does "should of" mean? <cite>Delta_Force posted [p:967693389] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>I love ragging on TLJ, but this I'll go to bat for.Regime changes after s Civil war are a hell of a thing, even for small countries. It takes a hell of a lot of political and military weight to bring everything together. And the Empire/Republic was huge. Coruscant's population alone is in the trillions (no joke), and there are millions of inhabited planets. The New Republic didn't have the empire's infrastructure. They didn't have the military might. They didn't have the numbers. And even if they did, again, MILLIONS of planets to bring to heel. This while trying to maintain that they are not a military dictatorship like the Empire was.Even if child slavery was the tip top of their priority list, and they had specialized task forces dedicated to squashing it out, it's unrealistic to expect them to have it totally crushed. It's a hell of a big thing they're dealing with. It's easy to forget the sheer scale of the Star Wars universe sometimes, with how much story takes place on like 5 planets.The real question is, in episode 7, why is it some small, scrappy resistance fighting the First Order and not the Grand Army of the New Republic.</quote>Keep in mind that they have space travel though, what can take us 100's or thousands of years doesn't necessarily have to take them that long, "space-bullshit" to the rescue! But most importantly it was an unnecessary plot that was thrown in for the sake of it.It also wasn't in some backwater planet that nobody has heard of, apparently both the "good guys" and the bad guys made plenty of deals there. I'm fine with the deals being made but nobody noticing shit? I mean the kids had to have had parents at some point. Same thing goes for the children being abducted and brainwashed to join the first order. We probably didn't see the full scope of their infantry but that is a massive amount of "missing" kids, even if we assume that only 10% of them were taken as children.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SocialistGamer 08/31/22 3:46:31 AM #140:	Second best of the Disney films. --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:967693458] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Second best of the Disney films.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marthsheretoo 08/31/22 4:15:35 AM #141:	DeadBankerDream posted... Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by. Well, it did turn out that blowing up the dreadnaught saved the whole Resistance - since after following them through hyperspace, the dreadnaught's long range weapons could have picked off the Resistance ships one by one. Good call, Poe! --- "Even MarthKoopa has jumped on the MarthKoopa hate wagon." -DevsBro <cite>marthsheretoo posted [p:967693637] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite><quote>Considering the very start of the film had him almost destroy the entire rebellion by sending them on a suicide mission, against direct orders, to gain one insignificant victory because he didn't have the brain functioning to let a tasty looking morsel pass him by.</quote>Well, it did turn out that blowing up the dreadnaught saved the whole Resistance - since after following them through hyperspace, the dreadnaught's long range weapons could have picked off the Resistance ships one by one.Good call, Poe!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 08/31/22 4:19:10 AM #142:	I feel like TLJ suffered from being the experimental middlechild sandwiched between two safe, by-the-books movies. It clearly had something it was trying to do, but Disney got cold feet and literally had it written out of existence so they could go "safe" again on the next movie, so we'll never see what it was trying to lead up to. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:967693668] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>I feel like TLJ suffered from being the experimental middlechild sandwiched between two safe, by-the-books movies.It clearly had something it was trying to do, but Disney got cold feet and literally had it written out of existence so they could go "safe" again on the next movie, so we'll never see what it was trying to lead up to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 08/31/22 4:56:39 AM #143:	A movie can both be dog shit and also hated by incels because purple hair lady at the same time. You don't need to defend dog shit just to stick it in the face of the incels. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:967693900] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>A movie can both be dog shit and also hated by incels because purple hair lady at the same time.You don't need to defend dog shit just to stick it in the face of the incels.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/31/22 9:05:32 AM #144:	Quartermuncher posted... Theyll still hate on it. You cant redeem a film trilogy when the core content is pure unmitigated ass. Prequels were fleshed out with clone wars but were still ok with just George Lucas. The sequel trilogy is too vapid for any substance. and you are factually wrong as kids love the ST --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:967696261] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Quartermuncher posted... </cite><quote>Theyll still hate on it. You cant redeem a film trilogy when the core content is pure unmitigated ass. Prequels were fleshed out with clone wars but were still ok with just George Lucas. The sequel trilogy is too vapid for any substance.</quote>and you are factually wrong as kids love the ST </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 08/31/22 9:14:38 AM #145:	YellowSUV posted... I just remembered the movie opened with a "your mom" joke. Incorrect. That's not what "your mom" jokes are. "Your mom" jokes are also great, but that's a different matter. nexigrams posted... I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years." Also incorrect. He immediately started work on a new movie after The Last Jedi, which became a big success and led to him signing a massive, lucrative contract for two sequels (one of which is set to debut around Christmas), as well as a TV show for Peacock set to debut in the vicinity. He's been extremely busy. You'd think if the movie was so bad, people wouldn't have to make things up about it and its makers all the time. I think this is the first time I've heard "Rian Johnson can't get any work", but it gets no props for creativity. --- Yo, man. Don't eat those. :( <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:967696388] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>YellowSUV posted... </cite><quote>I just remembered the movie opened with a "your mom" joke.</quote>Incorrect. That's not what "your mom" jokes are. "Your mom" jokes are also great, but that's a different matter.nexigrams posted... </cite><quote>I mean, what's he gonna say? "Yeah it's a bad movie, it torpedoed a beloved franchise so hard that I couldn't get work again for like 4 years."</quote>Also incorrect. He immediately started work on a new movie after The Last Jedi, which became a big success and led to him signing a massive, lucrative contract for two sequels (one of which is set to debut around Christmas), as well as a TV show for Peacock set to debut in the vicinity. He's been extremely busy.You'd think if the movie was so bad, people wouldn't have to make things up about it and its makers all the time. I think this is the first time I've heard "Rian Johnson can't get any work", but it gets no props for creativity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkyUmbreon 08/31/22 9:27:36 AM #146:	People hate TLJ for dismantling Star Wars but no one ever says anything about TFA dismantling the entire OT and trying to pretend the PT doesn't exist (JJ wanted a skull of Jar Jar to kill it for real). JJ Abrams literally undid everything the OT accomplished in a title crawl so he could do ANH again, but worse. --- El Psy Congroo 3DS FC: 3952-7469-6840 <cite>SkyUmbreon posted [p:967696581] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>People hate TLJ for dismantling Star Wars but no one ever says anything about TFA dismantling the entire OT and trying to pretend the PT doesn't exist (JJ wanted a skull of Jar Jar to kill it for real).JJ Abrams literally undid everything the OT accomplished in a title crawl so he could do ANH again, but worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 08/31/22 9:30:03 AM #147:	CE is officially dead on the day that a TLJ topic doesn't rack up over 100 posts. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:967696608] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>CE is officially dead on the day that a TLJ topic doesn't rack up over 100 posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 08/31/22 9:32:29 AM #148:	TLJ was a dumpster, ROS was a flaming dumpster. So I guess in a way he should be proud of that. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:967696644] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>TLJ was a dumpster, ROS was a flaming dumpster. So I guess in a way he should be proud of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 08/31/22 9:51:28 AM #149:	There are always nerds who take hate too far, but I don't like how many assume that if you didn't like TLJ at all you're one of those incel-ish nerds who takes things too far. Some of the defenders are acting equally obnoxious especially ones who are getting off to nerds getting mad. So weird. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:967696916] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>There are always nerds who take hate too far, but I don't like how many assume that if you didn't like TLJ at all you're one of those incel-ish nerds who takes things too far. Some of the defenders are acting equally obnoxious especially ones who are getting off to nerds getting mad. So weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 08/31/22 10:52:38 AM #150:	Southernfatman posted... There are always nerds who take hate too far, but I don't like how many assume that if you didn't like TLJ at all you're one of those incel-ish nerds who takes things too far. so many people said "you don't like TLJ because it has a woman with purple hair as the the top person, you must be an incel!" --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:967697927] in Rian Johns... [t:80148074]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>There are always nerds who take hate too far, but I don't like how many assume that if you didn't like TLJ at all you're one of those incel-ish nerds who takes things too far.</quote>so many people said "you don't like TLJ because it has a woman with purple hair as the the top person, you must be an incel!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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