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refmon
08/30/22 4:13:03 PM
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https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/rian-johnson-even-more-proud-star-wars-last-jedi-five-years-on-exclusive/

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RchHomieQuanChi
08/30/22 4:14:20 PM
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Cue the hordes of angry Star Wars nerds

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Quartermuncher
08/30/22 4:45:24 PM
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I mean creating a movie that godawful is technically impressive, he really boned star wars for a few years. Making something worse than the Holiday Special was something i didnt expect, but Rian Johnson managed!

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NeonOctopus
08/30/22 4:46:09 PM
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I'd be proud if I tanked an entire series and caused so much hatred to the brand

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Doom_Art
08/30/22 4:46:19 PM
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Fuck yeah, king. You tell em.

Can't wait for him to come back to the franchise.

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DeadBankerDream
08/30/22 4:46:36 PM
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Considering the bowl of diarrhea that came after him he should be proud of his comparative Maltese Falcon.

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Squall28
08/30/22 4:48:16 PM
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Second best star wars movie after Episode 3

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Delta_Force
08/30/22 4:48:46 PM
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Reminds me of Tommy Wiseau.

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CrestedTax
08/30/22 4:52:02 PM
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He can think whatever he wants, the movie still sucks.
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CRON
08/30/22 4:53:00 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Fuck yeah, king. You tell em.

Can't wait for him to come back to the franchise.
As someone who stopped giving a shit about Star Wars after TFA, why is he hated so much?
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32Legend
08/30/22 4:53:59 PM
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I liked knives out more than last jedi. I'm looking forward to that sequel even though I'm ambivalent about him coming back to Star Wars...but at least he's not JJ Abrams... really don't like him.

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Zero_Destroyer
08/30/22 4:54:51 PM
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i still think it's pretty bad but the nerdrage from people who only consume mcu/star wars products is pretty great, it's funny to see the lowest common denominator seethe about a below average movie five years later


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Zero_Destroyer
08/30/22 4:55:59 PM
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32Legend posted...
I liked knives out more than last jedi

knives out was great. i'm not confident RJ can really handle Star Wars since even if he started the ST he has issues juggling tone in TLJ, so I'm glad he's making Knives Out a more extended franchise. hoping he takes his time with every script though

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Doom_Art
08/30/22 4:56:49 PM
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CRON posted...
why is he hated so much?
TLJ was incredibly controversial for a number of reasons. The major ones being how he handled Luke's character, a subplot involving Finn and a new character named Rose, and the Resistance plotline, which focused on Poe and a female Admiral butting heads over how to deal with the First Order.

Also a ton of weird nitpicky bullshit topped with some bizarre anti-SJW/woke crap. It released in 2017 when all that stuff was starting to really take off, so it hasn't managed to shake that initial association

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Smashingpmkns
08/30/22 4:57:09 PM
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He should be. It's the only good movie in the sequel trilogy

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CyricZ
08/30/22 4:57:49 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
He should be.


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Zero_Destroyer
08/30/22 4:59:45 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
He should be. It's the only good movie in the sequel trilogy

I wouldn't call it good but it is the only one with interesting concepts or ideas of the ST. It veers pretty close to the spirit of the PT in how it tries to actually say something but because he had to work with Abrams' terrible framework he is limited in what he can do

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ChocoboMogALT
08/30/22 4:59:49 PM
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Every day Star Wars fans tears taste more and more delicious.

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cjsdowg
08/30/22 5:04:12 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
I wouldn't call it good but it is the only one with interesting concepts or ideas of the ST. It veers pretty close to the spirit of the PT in how it tries to actually say something but because he had to work with Abrams' terrible framework he is limited in what he can do

He was given a storm Trooper who fought off brainwashing, and stood up the a leader of the FO. That is good stuff. So what does he do. Have people call him coward and treat him like a punk.

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Zero_Destroyer
08/30/22 5:07:12 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
He was given a storm Trooper who fought off brainwashing, and stood up the a leader of the FO. That is good stuff. So what does he do. Have people call him coward and treat him like a punk.

that's actually fair yeah, that was really Abrams' only good idea and I don't think either he nor RJ did much with it. There is a deleted scene of him confronting Phasma that's actually pretty decent, but I don't know if it was RJ or Disney's decision to cut it

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Smackems
08/30/22 5:12:33 PM
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I'm proud of the dump I took yesterday too

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voldothegr8
08/30/22 5:15:19 PM
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What a cock

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CountDog
08/30/22 5:16:19 PM
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Rian Johnson is not a bad director, and or writer. His films outside starwars are not bad. And even clever to some aspects. Disney controls starwars. Johnson does not. They create the recipe, he cooks it.


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FortuneCookie
08/30/22 5:21:35 PM
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Feed him to the Sarlac pit.
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Cobra1010
08/30/22 5:23:10 PM
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Let him make another star wars, let him add time dilation into the world and we time travel back to meet yoda.

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apocalyptic_4
08/30/22 5:24:48 PM
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Good it was the best of that awful trilogy

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MaxEffingBemis
08/30/22 5:26:15 PM
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TLJ was so bad and knives out was so good I dont understand. The writing was terrible in this movie, yet was great in knives out. I commend him for trying to do something different with the Star Wars formula but what came out of it was not good. The writing, the tone, some of the decisions were terrible.

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/30/22 5:27:47 PM
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Squall28 posted...
Second best star wars movie after Episode 3
Wrong but based.

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SoIidLegacy
08/30/22 5:34:59 PM
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CountDog posted...
Rian Johnson is not a bad director, and or writer. His films outside starwars are not bad. And even clever to some aspects. Disney controls starwars. Johnson does not. They create the recipe, he cooks it.

Subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations was definitely his call though.

This 33-second video is the perfect metaphor of what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4Ss5bK-ws

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DeadBankerDream
08/30/22 5:37:09 PM
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SoIidLegacy posted...
Subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations was definitely his call though.

This 33-second video is the perfect metaphor of what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4Ss5bK-ws
Nothing about Star Wars was his call. Disney signed off on literally everything he did and paid for the editors who put it together the way it was released.

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Proto_Spark
08/30/22 5:40:20 PM
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Really, Rise of Skywalker did more damage than anything The Last Jedi could do.

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/30/22 5:40:35 PM
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SoIidLegacy posted...
Subverting expectations for the sake of subverting expectations was definitely his call though.
Love seeing these debunked arguments again.

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Adam
08/30/22 5:41:34 PM
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Cool it's still a shit movie lol

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SoIidLegacy
08/30/22 6:19:08 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Nothing about Star Wars was his call. Disney signed off on literally everything he did and paid for the editors who put it together the way it was released.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Love seeing these debunked arguments again.

I have no doubt that Disney limits the potential of their movies to simple-minded straightforward stuff. Still, Johnson wrote and directed it. Disney either approves or disapproves his work, but he chose to go with this, and he could've chosen to do it differently, yet acceptable by Disney's standards.

TFA was good imo. Maybe the same formula as ANH, but good enough to make to long for a sequel. TLJ was so disappointingly and jarringly bad that I didn't even want to go see TROS.

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K181
08/30/22 6:49:20 PM
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He should be, it was a great movie.

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YellowSUV
08/30/22 6:56:11 PM
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Well, at least he doesn't have the worst Star Wars movie because Rise of Skywalker exists.

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YellowSUV
08/30/22 7:01:19 PM
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Delta_Force posted...
Reminds me of Tommy Wiseau.

Ehhhh Johnson is really good at cinematography in general (at least compared to other Star Wars directors), something Wisaeu is terrible at. It is easily the best looking Star Wars film in a vacuum. For example, the infamous hyerpseed ramming scene is visually striking and great if you ignore how it is logically stupid in the Star Wars universe. There are still some terrible moments though such as the Throne Room fight which has terrible "fighting" direction like most prequel fights.

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Gobstoppers12
08/30/22 7:04:50 PM
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As he should be. It was a very, very good movie.

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BlackOmnimon
08/30/22 7:30:53 PM
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Why wouldn't he be proud of the best Star Wars sequel?

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Prestoff
08/30/22 7:32:34 PM
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It's a well-made movie, but a terrible Star Wars one if that makes sense.

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Doom_Art
08/30/22 7:40:43 PM
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Prestoff posted...
It's a well-made movie, but a terrible Star Wars one if that makes sense.
It doesn't lol

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Prestoff
08/30/22 7:40:57 PM
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TFA was pretty good in that there was a lot to build off of. The issue was that JJ Abrams had no plans for how the sequels were supposed to turn out thanks to his "mystery box" method. It was meant for the other director to fill in those mysteries and then you have Rian Johnson, who's well known to "subvert expectations" go, "Yeah, none of that shit matters." so the third film basically had nothing to build off from hence "somehow Palpatine returned" meme.

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TheAttackTitan
08/30/22 7:45:40 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

Wrong but based

on shit.
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s0nicfan
08/30/22 7:46:42 PM
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Prestoff posted...
TFA was pretty good in that there was a lot to build off of. The issue was that JJ Abrams had no plans for how the sequels were supposed to turn out thanks to his "mystery box" method. It was meant for the other director to fill in those mysteries and then you have Rian Johnson, who's well known to "subvert expectations" go, "Yeah, none of that shit matters." so the third film basically had nothing to build off from hence "somehow Palpatine returned" meme.

I don't know how many times I've posted this, but he had drafts for all three movies and actively tried to coordinate with Johnson to thread plot points through the middle movie and Johnson opted to throw it all out.

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TheAttackTitan
08/30/22 7:48:20 PM
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Now I know how the Original Trilogy purists feel when I tell them I preferred the Prequel Trilogy. Except that is actually a valid opinion. Liking the Sequel Trilogy is not. Even Morbius was better than the Sequel Trilogy.
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tommybel89
08/30/22 7:50:31 PM
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It's not perfect by any means, but TLJ is the only new Star Wars movie that tried SOMETHING.

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/30/22 7:53:44 PM
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TheAttackTitan posted...
Now I know how the Original Trilogy purists feel when I tell them I preferred the Prequel Trilogy. Except that is actually a valid opinion. Liking the Sequel Trilogy is not. Even Morbius was better than the Sequel Trilogy.
Nah, the sequels are better than the prequels in literally every way. It's basically embarrassing to b a prequel movie.

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Ricemills
08/30/22 7:54:01 PM
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some people liking TLJ for breaking SW formula. in other words, they like Star Wars that's not being a Star Wars.

are they even a fan of Star Wars if they hated all of other SW movies?

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