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ViewtifulGrave
07/15/22 11:29:11 PM
#51:


Phantom36 posted...
Took too long to mention, such a vast improvement. Sonic 1 is actually pretty bad after the first zone in retrospect
It was mentioned in post #15.

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God of War 2
Zone of the Enders the second runner
Dark Cloud 2
DBZ Budokai 2
Jak II
Super Mario Galaxy 2

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oas316
07/15/22 11:29:12 PM
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Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddys Kong Quest. As much as I loved the original, the sequel took the first game and improved on everything, including the difficulty.

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Xethuminra
07/15/22 11:32:26 PM
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The Witcher 2
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ViewtifulJoe
07/15/22 11:36:11 PM
#54:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Nah this game was shit. They completely changed Dante's combat to some unfun garbage, and then gave the DMC1 combat to Trish who doesn't appear during the game at all and can only be played after beating the game with both characters.
Yeah it's called an unlockable character. It's what games used to have before they realised they could sell them to you or package them into lazy remasters like DMCV. Lots of games around the time had them.

Dante's combat has a bunch of cool moves they never bought back, rainstorm as a move innate to E&I before gunslinger was a thing + the ability to boost a jump using guns in the air, the triple air combo that gains height, that DT move where he shoots ice/fire waves, the original Majin Devil Trigger before they finally caved and let us have the watered down SDT, customisable DT including an innate flying state which could attack with the sword instead of the lunge you get in 1 and 3. Guns are strong in this one. You got these gems that let you either run faster, opt for more damage or slow enemies on hit. It was cool.

Lucia was an entire second character who used short range knives and martial arts (Instead of having another samey Ifrit like weapon for Dante, they made an entire martial arts character out of the idea while DMCV gives V aka spin the wheel and see if your familiars do what you want them to this time.) No guns either, all throwing knives and DT gave her a punch of projectiles that are a lot like Artemis from DMC3 but stronger.

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NobleWill8
07/16/22 12:17:29 AM
#55:


Phantom36 posted...
Took too long to mention, such a vast improvement. Sonic 1 is actually pretty bad after the first zone in retrospect
Yeah, 2 and 3&K are way more fun with the parts where you can enjoy yourself and go FAST while still including the platforming element

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Ratchetrockon
07/16/22 12:18:27 AM
#56:


ViewtifulJoe posted...
Yeah it's called an unlockable character. It's what games used to have before they realised they could sell them to you or package them into lazy remasters like DMCV. Lots of games around the time had them.

Dante's combat has a bunch of cool moves they never bought back, rainstorm as a move innate to E&I before gunslinger was a thing + the ability to boost a jump using guns in the air, the triple air combo that gains height, that DT move where he shoots ice/fire waves, the original Majin Devil Trigger before they finally caved and let us have the watered down SDT, customisable DT including an innate flying state which could attack with the sword instead of the lunge you get in 1 and 3. Guns are strong in this one. You got these gems that let you either run faster, opt for more damage or slow enemies on hit. It was cool.

Lucia was an entire second character who used short range knives and martial arts (Instead of having another samey Ifrit like weapon for Dante, they made an entire martial arts character out of the idea while DMCV gives V aka spin the wheel and see if your familiars do what you want them to this time.) No guns either, all throwing knives and DT gave her a punch of projectiles that are a lot like Artemis from DMC3 but stronger.
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Ruvan22
07/16/22 12:55:47 AM
#57:


Warcraft 2
Time Crisis 2 kind of
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crennigo
07/16/22 1:18:34 AM
#58:


Halo 2
Gears of War 2
Borderlands 2
Soul Calibur II
Half life 2
Diablo 2

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Lukey_Bug
07/16/22 1:27:27 AM
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Shadow Hearts 2. Combat wise though maybe not story

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Ivany2008
07/16/22 1:33:22 AM
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Marvel Vs. Capcom 2
Capcom Vs. SNK 2
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2
Dead Rising 2
Guilty Gear X2 (cop out answer since technically its the 3rd in the franchise)
Mortal Kombat 2

Also, to the above post, agreed. SH2 was better combat-wise, but the story outside of Rasputin was far better in the first.
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Questionmarktarius
07/16/22 1:36:41 AM
#61:


Castlevania 2
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Umbreon
07/16/22 1:39:04 AM
#62:


oas316 posted...
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddys Kong Quest. As much as I loved the original, the sequel took the first game and improved on everything, including the difficulty.

Took too long for me to see this.

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Link_of_time
07/16/22 2:08:54 AM
#63:


Bioshock 2. The only the first had over it was the story.
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Esrac
07/16/22 3:52:22 AM
#65:


How am I the first to say Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn?
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KhlavicLanguage
07/16/22 4:01:47 AM
#66:


shining force 2
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SRR_Capdown
07/16/22 4:57:02 AM
#67:


KotOR 2
Mass Effect 2

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bigtiggie23
07/16/22 7:20:31 AM
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Def Jam: Fight for NY
NBA Street Vol.2

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Foppe
07/16/22 7:21:35 AM
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Tony Hawk Pro Skater

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BoyOfBattle
07/16/22 7:38:12 AM
#70:


pfh1001 posted...
Suikoden 2


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rexcrk
07/16/22 7:52:04 AM
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Kingdom Hearts 2 > Kingdom Hearts

Going only by the main numbered games here.



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MrMallard
07/16/22 7:53:17 AM
#72:


Mass Effect 2, as someone who really.enjoys the vibe of ME1.

Wario Land 2.

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Ving_Rhames
07/16/22 7:55:06 AM
#73:


Xethuminra posted...
Mass Effect 2!

Was surprised this wasn't one of the first mentions tbh lol

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Fony
07/16/22 7:58:51 AM
#74:


Tekken 2

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Eat_More_Beef
07/16/22 9:01:09 AM
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GTA2 - the gang system was legit an amazing add.

Divinity: Original Sin 2 - I enjoyed the range addition to the combat system, and the inventory was much better as they streamlined the selling options. Only thing the first game had over it (i feel, anyway), was the usage of Action Points. I prefered the 1sts way of handling it.


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itachi15243
07/16/22 9:12:52 AM
#76:


Do the Nier games count?

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PoopPotato
07/16/22 9:13:40 AM
#77:


Pillars of eternity 2

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DarkRoast
07/16/22 9:16:29 AM
#78:


Sonic the Hedgehog 2

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g0ldie
07/16/22 9:17:11 AM
#79:


itachi15243 posted...
Do the Nier games count?
I think they should

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AlleyViper620
07/16/22 9:24:19 AM
#80:


Hitman 2: Silent Assassin (original Hitman series)

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Tsukasa1891
07/16/22 9:59:39 AM
#81:


Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness.

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ViewtifulGrave
07/16/22 10:59:58 AM
#82:


itachi15243 posted...
Do the Nier games count?
Nier is the sequel to Drakengards ending E. So Automata is technically the third game on a second branch.

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R1masher
07/16/22 11:10:46 AM
#83:


Jade Empire 2

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DarkRoast
07/16/22 11:38:52 AM
#84:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Nier is the sequel to Drakengards ending E. So Automata is technically the third game on a second branch.

As much as I like Drakengard conceptually, Nier and especially Nier Automata are vastly better video games (in terms of game mechanics).

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spikethedevil
07/16/22 11:52:30 AM
#85:


R1masher posted...
Jade Empire 2

Needs to happen.

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g0ldie
07/16/22 12:51:47 PM
#86:


^ for real

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Srk700
07/17/22 1:50:59 PM
#87:


crennigo posted...
Soul Calibur II

SC2 is actually the 3rd game in the series. Soul Blade was the 1st with Soul Calibur 1 being the 2nd game.

Though you could still probably put SC1 in the list too.
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rustykranz3
07/17/22 1:55:35 PM
#88:


Paperboy 2

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